Hezbollah en Colombia!

markobhoy says on Mar 18, 2009, 07:08:

The US Military using the threat of terrorism as a pretence to increase their presence in a region with huge natural resources.

Deja-vouz, anyone?

And the link of narco-trafficking to tie it in with Plan Colombia is absolutely 'textbook' :)

How much do we hear of the US (and indeed the UK) taking action against terrorist groups in areas that have little natural resources. Just ine example...Rwanda, few resources, 1 million slaughtered in '94, no action taken.

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nine inch nails says on Mar 18, 2009, 07:46:

Hear yah MK.

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tasco66 says on Mar 18, 2009, 07:52:

The only Hezbollah connection in the region that I know of is this one:

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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span_colombia says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:00:

this is an interesting story. I was looking into taking farsi classes at la nacional, which are offered by an Iranian diplomat.

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miamimike says on Mar 18, 2009, 09:06:

South America, actually in practically all of Latin America save but a dew countries, has been practically ignored the last several years. When a Vacumn exists, someone moves in to fill it. No surprise on Hezbollah moving in,,,

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Sam Salmon says on Mar 18, 2009, 10:13:

Hezbollah has been in business for years and years now particularly in Paraguay.

' a la orden!'

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elchantajista says on Mar 18, 2009, 15:15:

There is a est 30,000 illegales that enter USA from Mex that are from arabic decent

anda de parranda al Juanchito "Vicente"

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Rikito says on Mar 18, 2009, 15:53:

There is only one way to deafeat them. You do what needs to be done to FARC...kill them, take no prisoners. You can only win if you keep cutting off the head when it grows back over and over and over. And let's not get to socialistic here like in the northern european welfare states. Hezbollah and those that think like thme only want to do one thing...kill you. That has been thier rallying point since they began. It is the stated reason of Islam...they have been preaching this crap since Mohammed (Not the Holy Prophet) smoked his first hubbly bubbly and got stoned and did his siter in the name of God.

If SA let's them get to strong of a foothold they will kill you, your parents, your wife, your childen unless you repent and become part of the world's single most ignorant entity. Islam.

I lived in thier society for seven years in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Yemen and Egypt. They are a very sick group of people.

...and so it goes

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markobhoy says on Mar 18, 2009, 18:31:

i find it amazing that US citizens ( and foreigners) still take statements from the US military/government at face value.

by the way boys, where are Iraq's weapons of mass destruction? still looking for them i assume...after securing the oil of course. let's get things in priority.

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quantum says on Mar 19, 2009, 07:51:

So Rikito, what are we supposed to do then? Employ the same narrow minded barbaric tactics that Islamic countries use? Is there really well founded intelligence that Hezbollah has made a beachhead in Latin America or just simply a bunch of folks of Arabic descent. Weve got flocks of em here on the border between Costa R. and Panama and they dont bother anybody. In fact theyre industrious and create 100's of jobs for otherwise unemployed young Panamanians. Jewish people and Muslims manage to live in peace in Panama City. My guess is the problem is overrated and exagerated. And as Markobhoy stated, "I find it amazing that U.S. citizens (and foreigners) still take statements for the US military/govt at face value". I can assure u Mark, I dont..........

quantum

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dwmte7 says on Mar 20, 2009, 16:20:

whole lot of prattle here about islam...rikito says he lived in the islamic world for seven years...musta had his eyes closed. they are hardly all ignoramuses nor brutes. nor are they terrorists.

it goes with out saying, that there are loco fundamentalists...they're just sideshow freaks, like manson, looking for followers and anaudience and they can blame it on GOD.

i lived and worked in iran for 13 years, married a 'godjar' and made ashod...testiment. i was in a sufi order for many years and met countless deeply devout and deep lovers of GOD.

such pronouncements like the above are nothing more than ignorant hate mongering and serve nothing for a world that needs to extricate it'self from these depths. we don't need to sink any deeper.

i think pbh had enough of the islam bashing with LDW and his drivel. nothing different than a klansman with a hood. out looking for a lynching to spark up his night.

don't misconstrue my words as being in any form an apologist for the extremists and terrorist in islam or for that matter any religeous group...christians, jews and chinese have enough radicals to take up any slack. the world is full of mad men...that's why we must all work to achieve piece by finding it first in our own hearts and when that garden is well tended, like weeds, loving fruit, spreads and goes on to contaminate everything and everyone it touches. we should all remember that regime change starts at home.

d

patriarch

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Rikito says on Mar 21, 2009, 12:50:

dwmte7, I couldn't disagree with you more. Just because you lived in Iran for awhile gives you no more insight than someone from China commenting on Taiwan. Iran is a very modern state, its people are diverse in thought and tolerant unlike the rest of the Islamic worked. They are also tolerant of other religions.

Yes, Hezbollah is here in Colombia and other places in SA. There have been several articles on their actions in the last two months. They are becoming increasingly involved with FARC and their drug operations for new sources of money. Nor am I hate mongering. Open your eyes and look past the poetry of the Rumi types. I am stating pure fact. Hezbollah and all Islamic extremists want only one thing...they want the infidel to turn to Islam or die a horrible death. They do not care who you are or what Sufi tent you come from. Shias are a violent people and only recognize their own form of Islam. If you do not believe this, then it is you who are the more ignorant.

What people need to know is what Islam is about, how it treats non-believers, Kafirs, and their own Islamic women, Jews, Christians, and anyone who tries to disagree with them. Yes there are many good and faithful people of Islam, but when push comes to shove they will easily join in the killing. There is a study about this that goes back several years...it is called the Stanford Prison experiment. Read up on it and it will prove my point even from a distance. It’s damn scary.

So go ahead and welcome your Islamic brothers and watch them take all that is yours. How do you stop them? Your last paragraph says a lot and is very profound. But you also keep and develop a strong society that tolerates all factions of life. Take a look at what they have done in the Sudan, Somalia, and other African nations that were taken by Islam. The people were (and are) slaughtered, raped and their children are made soldiers to die for a religion they do not believe in. Since you have lived in Iran and you were a Sufi you were also a Muslim. In Sufi Orders they strive to live a more perfect form of life. Iranian Sufis tend to be Shia and use their strength in the intellectual advance and the dissemination of culture in societies governed by Islamic sovereigns. With all of this you must also be aware of the story about “The Camel's Nose in the Tent.” This is the Islam of Hezbollah and yes, using your words, these people “are hardly all ignoramuses nor brutes. nor are they terrorists.” I am sorry, but they are so don’t turn your cheek away to long or the likes of Hezbollah will cut it off.

Colombia needs to develop a more mature aristocracy and stop the constant childish behavior of the current politicos. Look at the U.S. and see what happens when corruption and childish behavior are the thoughts of the day.

...and so it goes

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dwmte7 says on Mar 22, 2009, 15:16:

thoughtful post rikito....thank you. that doesn't disuade my sentiments,however.

those who do what is done at the edge of a knife or a suiside vest or the likes of sudan and somolia, are not following the teachings of the prophet and are thus not symbolic of islam. that does not mean that these terrorists are not to be condemned, rather it is to say they are not islamists.

the two schools are separated by a thin line although a very distinctone one. first, sunnis are follower of imam shibli, the first disciple of mohammed. and shias are followers of imam ali. now what distinguishes these two is the shis say that all is from GOD. and the sunnis say, ALL IS GOD. those who understand these most profound differences, know islam and know the teachings of the PROPHET. and they are not terrorists.

islam is laden with HIGH AND HOLY SAINTS AND SAGES. at the same time, it is pregnant with false pretenders who use the curtain of religion to hide their criminality and diabolic activities. they should not be lumped together.

it is difficult for us in the west to understand much less appreciate these differences....especially when so many rag headed maniacs,professing islam, chop off heads, rape wonen and children and slaughter with abandon.

the same difficulty faces people of the middle east and the orient who see the attrocities perpetrated by the western church going back centuries and even unto today. i needent list these horrors as those who are familiar are well familar and they know, as well, that these diabolic actions of the catholic church and other churches, in no wise are the teachings of CHRIST nor the way set down for us by GOD.

D

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Mar 22, 2009, 15:21:

a degression, brother, we have both wandered wide of the thread, 'hesbollah in colombia' and for my part i apologize.

d

patriarch

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pobrecito says on Mar 22, 2009, 16:52:

It is rikito who is very sick ...

No mas Tasco66 !

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Rikito says on Mar 23, 2009, 13:04:

pobrecito, why did you make the comment you did. Was it out of ignorance since you do not know me or could it be that because you are French you know everything? people like you are so typical and remind me of my first wife...always quick to interrupt a discussion and acclaim their superior intelligence even though they have little clue of what is being discussed. dwmte and I are in a basic agreement, but we see thing from a different approach which his only natural given his religious training and internal beliefs. Unlike many Christian beliefs, Islam lives their faith openly...they don't make false statements. For example, their desire to conquer and convert all infidels. Their desire to conquer the world even by killing anyone in their way is well documented. These statements are true and where supposedly said by the Prophet.

My friend. the sickness is yours for not trying to understand and becoming more educated about Islam and what their intentions are. There are some wonder people who are Muslim and I have many friends of this faith. But I do not trust their beliefs and I doubt it I ever will. Just read how they treat women and you will get a good idea.

Salam ali kum


If you had a clue of the beliefs of a Sufi Order you would just sit in silence. By the way dwmte what sugi order did you belong to in Iran?

...and so it goes

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poco says on Mar 23, 2009, 13:31:

Quote: South America, actually in practically all of Latin America save but a dew countries, has been practically ignored the last several years. When a Vacumn exists, someone moves in to fill it. No surprise on Hezbollah moving in,,,
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Does it count that I said Ingrid was attempting to make the FARC into a Hezbollah type group in Colombia a year or more ago,, before she was released I think,, Hummm, another shit storm then,, now ?

I need a shit storm gif.

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pobrecito says on Mar 24, 2009, 07:30:

Rikito is more sick than I thought. Psychosis ?

No mas Tasco66 !

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 24, 2009, 08:05:

goin_south says on Mar 24, 2009, 18:26:

Let's stay politically correct, okay:

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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La_Huella says on Mar 24, 2009, 22:40:

I can't see Hezbollah being a big success in Colombia. Trying to get women to cover up when they won't do it in the middle of a Bogota hailstorm :P Or trying to get people to stop eating chorizo....

Now the Osho stuff is a huge success here in Colombia, communes all over, free sex seems to go over a lot better than the burqa :P

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poco says on Mar 25, 2009, 10:34:

Oh,, I love it,, I've got another "Maxine" ,, later

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poco says on Mar 25, 2009, 10:41:

Quote: its clear Douglas and Rikito both know what they are talking about, just as clear as it is Pobrecito is being ignorant.
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Give the poster a hand !!!! However, don't elaborate,, I love to see folks making clueless statements and Pob_bray,, should be encouraged.

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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La_Huella says on Mar 25, 2009, 11:23:

There are as many extreme christians and jews as muslims in this world, make no mistake about it.

And I'm NOT a fan of Hezbollah, but to say they don't have popular support is just STUPID. That's about ALL they have and it's exactly what they are getting by on. Not really any different from the Black Panthers and the NOI or the Golden Guineas back in the day in NYC. They all has MASSIVE ground level support.

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poco says on Mar 25, 2009, 11:31:

Quote: They all has MASSIVE ground level support.
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I'm kind of glad to see you posting. I've always read your posts however using Hitler as an example of ground level support,, you know,, all Germans loved him,, to death,, longer than that,, they worshiped him,, young kids gave up their life so Germany would march on into history.

Oh,, wait,, that was me that mentioned Hitler, Sorry.

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La_Huella says on Mar 25, 2009, 18:27:

Hitler was very popular too, no matter how people don't want to admit it now. He had admirers all over the world.

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vladimiro says on Mar 28, 2009, 17:24:

"Honor killings" are part of a common Mediterranean culture in which a man's honor is tied to the ability of other men to seduce his women :) That's why in Colombia, which like many moslem countries is also a Mediterranean influenced society, killing your wife if you caught her cheating only became illegal in 1980. According to HRW its still legally tolerated to kill your wife in many parts of South America.

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