Hey Kat

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 30, 2007, 17:00:

well thanks God I live in Wales, very peaceful here!!! but yes horrible things are happening, did you read what happened in sclotland? those people are crazy lunatics idiots.......

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panthdave says on Jun 30, 2007, 17:09:

Kat Read...You nuts Its non stop on TV right now here in the States..FOX and CNN.....

Thank God nobody was hurt I have to say and Congrats to the Brits for preventing two attacks in London...Could of been worse in Glasgow..

panthdave Miami

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 30, 2007, 17:12:

I know, but is sad that we all have to live in fear, when I go to London i get paranoid about every packet, suitcase, i really hate subways now...... ok in Colombia we have guerrillas but this people is different they are lunatics, the guerillas don't have suicide bombers..............

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panthdave says on Jun 30, 2007, 17:21:

FARC though are willing to kill woman and children with no problem..instead of going after there real enemies(Government and Military)..Example last bomb in Buenaventura killed a woman and child if I am correct. Don't you say thats similar to the Insurgents in Iraq killing woman and children..Maybe not on that large scale but they still killed an innocent woman and child in Buenaventura last week..

Yes that must suck going into London and being in Fear...I really don't have that fear hear in MIA..

Noticed a rise in activity from the FARC lately and it really disturbs me that the Colombian Government does not know who attacked a FARC Camp which caused the killing of 11 Hostages..
Flying to Medellin Tuesday for the week..to be with GF...

panthdave Miami

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 30, 2007, 17:26:

both are scumbags. but I don't know why I feel insecure in London

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houstongal says on Jun 30, 2007, 20:23:

It's also happening around the anniversary of the July 2 bombings in London. I give the folks in London credit for being so diligent.

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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scotty says on Jun 30, 2007, 22:49:

damn terrorists! losers,creeps, these people have no life. I have a feeling we are going to see more of this in England and USA and who knows were else.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 30, 2007, 22:54:

Damn....and i always thought Freedom was Freeeeeee..........=)....i mean, like, somehow we might have to pay for ittttttt???????? ...=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Cerealkiller says on Jul 1, 2007, 02:34:

The thing has been all over the news but I dont think londoners are living in fear at all. I went out with a bunch of friends yesterday and central london, as always, was packed. Covent Garden was packed, leicester square was packed, they had the gay parade going on...like nothing ever happened.
I only get nervous when taking a bus cause chances are I wont make it if some bastard decides to blow himself up. Hell only two or three people survive in Israel when a bus is attacked!!! I dont mind the tube though but to be fair, londoners are not nearly as impressionable as americans when it comes to this sort of thing.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 1, 2007, 02:54:

I hate tubes, subways, tunnels, and lift, i feel claustrophobic in them, i feel like I need air, i don't go on a lift on my own, i get panicked, when I go to villavo from Bogota i get really nervous as soon as we go on the tunnels, i think what would happend if the Farc put a bomb in here, how would i scape the same goes for the subways in London

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slguy says on Jul 1, 2007, 04:59:

What are the real chances of being involved in a terrorist act? Pretty slim. The media reports theses acts, and rightfully so - but the truth is, you're FAR more likely to get run over by a car.

The thing is, these reactions (scared of the subways, buses, etc) are EXACTLY what these bastards want. They want blood, and they want to instigate terror- it's why they're called terrorists.

If we develop a bunch of irrational fears, based on high-profile but isolated incidents, guess who wins?

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Waterdawg says on Jul 1, 2007, 07:26:

.. " They " have already won, look at all the knee jerk reactions by the total inept Beltway boys and girls ..

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bueno_pues says on Jul 1, 2007, 09:29:

Es la verdad, Waterdawg. Su respuesta es controlarnos como prisioneros y violar el constitucion.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 1, 2007, 14:54:

I think my problem is I am scare of inclose (sp) places, i hate to be in places where in case of emergency no matter what type of emergency i can't get out easy. for example I hate the channel tunnel and never been in it, i have been avoiding it as much as I can. I don't mind riding on buses i happy about that or planes

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analyzethis1 says on Jul 1, 2007, 15:31:

the first time I ever felt claustrophobic was when I rode the transmilenio. My heart started to race, I began to sweat and I was suffering from SOB (not them bit#% at !) but shortness of breath! Ugh it was terrible! I empathize with you Kat.

There are two kinds of gratitude: The sudden kind we feel for what we receive, and the larger kind we feel for what we give. E.A. Robinson

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panthdave says on Jul 1, 2007, 16:02:

I think Kat needs get her ass back to Colombia for a visit...

panthdave Miami

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goin_south says on Jul 1, 2007, 17:07:

I was disappointed in Bogota, when I saw what Rubito brags about so much, the Transmilenio. I thought it was going to be comparable to the the El Metro in Medellin. I'm sure it's as efficient, but I thought it would be 'above' the streets, rather than 'between the lines' or lanes.

Is any part of the Transmilenio on a rail, above the streets, like the El Metro? or, no?

Where do we go from here?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 2, 2007, 01:07:

I am panthdave in July woo hooooooooo although i was there over christmas..


analyzeth1 that is how I feel i panicked and I can't breaht, although i don't show it everybody notice i get very tense and if they are talking to me i hardly respond.. although, i've never been in the transmilenio, that thing is always packed that i can't be bother.. i rather take a taxi..

BTW I have been close to terrorist act, i was very close when in 1993 or 2 that bomb that went off in the center of Bogota I was with my sister we heard it, and we were on that street like an hour before, and the second one I was with my husband just yard from bomb that went off in cartagena, that was about 1994 or 6 around that time i think, i have been lucky to have a good guardian angel :))))

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 2, 2007, 01:44:

Another like or not "they" do or did change our way of live, we became more paranoids, about everything and everybody, many people hate flying after the 9/11 incidents but they don't have another alternative and they have to do it but they are now more tense I have noticed that a lot, look at the airports now, they became impossible, people avoiding places, i know TONS of people that is scare of going to Villavo, or other places that relative are safe.

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panthdave says on Jul 2, 2007, 02:11:

Kat down almost every two to three weeks back and forth to Medellin..MIA though alittle closer then the UK..I already have my christmas ticket which If I don't go will a have a divorce on my hands. No Fear at all I have just grown a custom to the extra time thru security but you know been getting thru within 15 minutes at MIA. I fly tomorrow morning but have no bags nor carry on but will get in early based on the activity in the UK last few days. I am able to check in online with Copa so no check in desks..and American I can go to Self Service Kiosks because no check in bags never.. Never experienced terrorist activity in Colombia but the worst I have been in was Lima back in the late 80's and early 90's when downtown Lima was a war zone and I was the only Gringo I swear in Lima and Cuzco..or very few..Barricades everywhere and people living in Fear when the next bomb will be going off. My girlfriends family was targets too at that time because her father was a prosecutor for the Fujimori government at that time so that was not fun.
Anyways have a good trip this month..Always in Medellin with my GF..

panthdave Miami

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scotty says on Jul 6, 2007, 06:27:

WHATS THIS GOT TO DO WITH COLOMBIA?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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goin_south says on Jul 6, 2007, 21:55:

While we didn't ride the Transmilenio in Bogota, we took many taxis about, hither and thither, and...although I believe the people at the hotel told her to 'call' for taxi's... all of the drivers were more than cordial, very friendly, and helpful... accomodating. No problems.

Where do we go from here?

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