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HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey All,
Happy New Year! I have a major problem, maybe someone can help me. My lovely Paisa wife of just 10 months has left me!!!!!! I enrolled her, at her request, in a cosmetology school here in NJ. I noticed an immediate change in her. After about 3 months, on 12/18/07, I went to pick her up from school (closes at 4:00) along with my 11 year old son. When we arrived, the school was closed. She showed up about 10 mins. later and told me the school had closed that day at 2:30. She told me that her girlfriend's boyfriend had come from Medellin, had called her to meet her and deliver an x-mas gift her mother had sent her! I was shocked! I told her it was disrespectful of her to have left school 1.5 hours earlier and not let me know. I would have called her under similar circumstances.........She became irate. In the car she even struck me in front of my son! That night, after striking me several times, she left the house to walk her dog. She returned after about 30 mins. 10 mins later, a cop at the door. The house phone rings, she answers. The cop sees no damage to her and my BLOODY nose. She asks if I want her arrested. I say "NO", I just want her to calm down. She hands the phone to the officer and the person on the phone tells the cop, she/he will come pick her up if that is ok. I agreed........The following day, she returns with another cop and a RESTRAINING ORDER!!!!!!!! I have not heard or seen her since that day!
DID I GET PLAYED OR WHAT???????
Can anyone here supply me with a private investagator in MEdellin?? I called the girlfriend of hers in MEdellin who told me it was a scam all along to get to USA. Also, told me my wife had been arrested in Medellin! I KNEW NONE OF THIS!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By lgpaa on Jan 4, 2008, 07:45 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 07:46:

here we go again

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 07:47:

sooner or later many here will be in the same boat, don;t feel so bad

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 07:51:

yeah, but what can I do, she completely screwed me!? Lost about $30,000. con un almacen de ropa en Medellin! NOW, I doubt it even existed!

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 07:55:

I did press charges..........and it was here in NEW JERSEY,, not in COL.

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 07:55:

WOW, that's cold.
man i'm so sorry to hear that!
This chit happens to colombianos too, i got a scam by a hooker/pre-pago/friend for a nice bundle. These broads are pros and will steal from the most unsuspecting idiot, me in this case.
but the funny chit is that i knew she was a scammer but gave her the benefit of doubt and got burned.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 07:57:

same here, "el"........I saw alot of signs and went with my heart! I am the dumbest bastard there is!

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 07:58:

30 foking g's , wow that's a lotta lotta fokin money.
for money like that i'll have a PARACO after her ass

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

gringoloid says on Jan 4, 2008, 07:59:

don't beat yourself up too badly.........happens all the time.........in the states too.

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:01:

i learned my lesson.
If a colombiana asks me for even 1 fokin dollar I will drop her in a heart beat.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:03:

i dated hundreds of gringas in the state and it never happend to me, not even ONCE

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

vicshere says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:04:

chorizo says on Friday January 4th, 2008 7:56:

lost 30.000, i would give mine 30 to piss of ,and another 30 take the bloody mother in law with her.

opps so now your a man???? whats up with your gender

listo

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:07:

listen my wify is one in 30 million, she's the MOST HONEST lovin colombiana i've ever met, i got really really lucky. The chances of finding one like that are very very slim.
a chance i WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER TAKE AGAIN!!!

thank you!

solo hookers for me

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

paisa29 says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:07:

Piasa!... son barquillos rellenos con crema o chocolate.

rhydewithdis says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:18:

Sorry to here this buddy. No offense, but did you marry a pre-pago? How old was she? What estrata was she from? It would help all of us here get a better understanding of our own situations (future situations) if we learn more about yours.

What signs did you see along the way? How long did you date her? Where did you meet here? Did you live in Medellin? Any and all information you can share would be helpful.

As far as a private investigator, I will PM you with details on someone I know shortly.

They said I couldn't play football I was too small / They say I couldn't play basketball I wasn't tall / They say I couldn't play baseball at all / And now everyday of my life I ball.

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:20:

i see guys here on this site who sooner or later will be in the same boat as you but refuse to listen.
many of these women do this for a living. I've met broads in Barranquilla that have been engaged to 5 different gringo modefouque in less than a year.
Listen just think about it for a minute.
I go to Queens, i can't even get the time of day from colombianas
I go to Colombia, all of the sudden i'm the verga grande, top dog, all the broads find me interesting and handsome.
Ok. now put one and one togther what do you get

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:25:

she was 26, from Envigado, supposedly a auxillar contable, poor family, met her online, she was living in Caracas working for an import-export co. I went to Caracas to meet her, the job was legit.........she rturned to MEdellin when her visa ran out in Vene. I went there about 5 times, 10 days each time...........she seemed completely legit........signs? The occasional dissapearing act! Was obviously drunk on phone,,,,,,,,,

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:26:

listen dude, it don't matter what strata as a matter of fact the ones in upper stratas are the biggest thiefs. A barrio girl will be happy to rip you off for a couple hundred dollars, that's it but the so called respectable ones are the ones to look out for.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

thegrower says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:27:

your better off without her

thegrower says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:28:

yes I know a P.I. in Medellin!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:31:

listen i had a real poor pre pago, real real hot looking oh my god real real HOT!!!!!!
I gave her a lousy 60 thousand pesos and her fokin eyes nearly popped outta her eye sucked. This time i'm giving her 80 mil.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:35:

Hey guys, I´ve heard about this all the time, you trust so much on people, you don´t know who really they are, you fell in love bc they have beautiful bodies but nothing in the brain. Sounds snob but....... do you think that a lady, that is settle down, has her own carreer is going to run after a gringo and she doesn´t have a visa at all? .... mmm suspicious. First take a look where they live, and their family please!!!, the family gives you clues..... Mirenle la pinta a todos por favor..... se percibe a metros quien es quien aqui.

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:38:

nojoda, you're right!!
let's keep her at 60 mil barras

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:44:

I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS, WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY GET MARRIED?????
does something magical happens, does her CHUCHA get any better? NOOOOO
is the same fokin CHUCHA. Enjoy that CHUCHA until you get tired or she gets tired of ripping you off and then go on to the next.
NOBODY, NOBODY IS HAPPILY MARRIED, NOBODY, OK MAYBE FOR A FEW YEARS THEN???
I'm the happiest modefoque in the planet. If i want paisa CHUCHA I buy it for the evnening
If i wake up and feel like having dark barrio CHUCHA, I'LL buy it for the evening
If i want Wayuu CHUCHA, is there anytime i want it and so on and so on ........

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:45:

give me the P.I. info.

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

billyb says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:47:

igpaa, is that her on your avatar? And if so, why?

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:48:

yes, her.........just haven't changed it....this just happened 2 /- weeks ago.

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:52:

do you guys have any idea how many HAPPILY MARRIED FOR 30 YEAR modefoqueS will be visiting whore establishment tonite all over Barranquillla, THOUSANDS!!!!
THOUSANDSSSSSSSS

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kentuckygreg2 says on Jan 4, 2008, 08:54:

Learn from your mistakes and move on! Sorry about your loss

I agree w/ Elmo. Why in the world would anyone want to get married. It will take the heavens falling and a girl that has money equal or better than mine to do that.

Love and happiness!

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:01:

this sucks, but this will just be another horrid excuse to generalize and label all paisas disingenuously.

"listen my wify is one in 30 million, she's the MOST HONEST lovin colombiana i've ever met, i got really really lucky. The chances of finding one like that are very very slim."

They can't be that slim, otherwise there'd be at least 2 on this site that have hit the lottery jackpot ;)

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:04:

I sent a couple of P.I. to you lgpaa

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

Chelesupercono says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:09:

Colombian women are f^cking smart, beautiful and devious.......why in the name of God would you marry one?

If it FLOATS, FLYS OR F^CKS.......LEASE IT YOU DUMB ASS...!!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:15:

lila
can u send them to lgpaa at optonline.net??????? PLEASE!
tanks

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:18:

"this sucks, but this will just be another horrid excuse to generalize and label all paisas disingenuously" ManINred

I share the same sentiment manINred, however, Colombians have always been the targets of generalizations whether in movies or other latin cultures nothing new.

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:22:

;)

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:35:

i'm glad there is someone who shares that same sentiment El Polo

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:44:

guys guys guys let me ask you something
right now venezuelan peso is less than colombian peso, our dollar goes a lot further in VEn than in colombia.
Why do US CHUCHA loving guys end up in colombia and not Venezeuala , mexico, argentina , peru etc.? ...... cus we aint gonna get no CHUCHA in those countries. .
entonces yo me pregunto, Quien tiene mas dignidad??
Grils in Venzuela also face the NEED FACTOR. The NEED to get the fok outta Venezuela!! BUT, BUT AND I REPEAT BUT no se venden

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:54:

Perhaps. But regardless of the country, Latin America (and I've been to most countries South America) and North America, Europe, etc... meeting girls really isn't that hard, and I can say this conclusively.

Speaking about Venezuelans, I met some Venezuelan dude on the bus yesterday he ranted at me about how Hugo Chavez has restricted what they can spend on credit cards to $400, effective jan 1. Speaks boatloads for the dignity and freedom Venezuelans have, right?

Entonces ya le pregunto a usted, quien tiene mas dignidad?

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 09:55:

Retiro lo dicho jejejeje

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:02:

de hoy adelante soy VENEZOLANO!!!
As a matter of fact i'm taking my wayuu ass to caracas to get myself a cedula and passport
hey you stupid modefoque i thought you were colombian???
I also have venezueland citizenship

thank you!!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:07:

haha, be prepared for spending limits!

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:09:

Elmo in Venezula its NCFY

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:10:

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elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:10:

lila, es imposible no generalisar, preguntale a Morph, a Rubito a Roci and Tone.
We go to queens, NO CHUCHA
Now we head to colombia, ALL THE CHUCHA WE WANT.
DIME QUE TU CRES DE ESTE FENOMENO?
did we get handsome while flying over the atlantic ocean heading to colombia?
did our sussuido grow 5 inches longer
did i turn 40 years younger?
que esta pasando, porque no CHUCHA aqui y mucha CHUCHA alla?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:16:

Keep the the respect between us elmo. But maybe i missinterpreted your comment ajjajaja i read that again... and what I get is ch.... everywhere.

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:18:

haha, preguntale a yo y le digo que tal para cual... hay que conocer gente buena en cualquier parte del mundo o en fin le va a quedar con ni un peso.

I meet just as many Colombian girls here as I do in Colombia. Nothing changes as I fly over that big ocean, as elmodefoque correctly implies. I just avoid the green-card seekers, of which there are none in Canada anyway, and believe me I had to learn this important differentiation in my travels in Latin America.

Once you learn to do this, you realize that good Colombians are some of the kindest greatest people on the planet, not green-card seeking opportunistic whores as portrayed often on this site, and their genuine no-strings hospitality is what endears me to their country. I can say that about many countries, but after all, this is a site about Colombia.

eywed says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:19:

lgpaa, why do you need a P.I. for your Problem?

Ay Hombe!!!!!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:23:

lila ?

ok, i guess if i did not have to pay for CHUCHA like you gringo guys then i'll be singing a different tune. But let me tell you, you might be getting freebies now but they will get you real good in the long run, look what happened to Igppa, i bet he was saying the same CHIT about his colombiana 6 months ago
GOOD LUCK TO YOU GUYS AND I MEAN IT, GOOD FOKIN LUCK!!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:32:

it all boils down to the indisputable fact that not all Colombianas are like this, and some marry gringos for (GASP!) things other than money. Hell, even you found this out.

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:32:

Guys I´ll tell the truth to you all... wanna read that.

Well the difference that make you more "attractive" to colombian ladies, or more "interesting", is:

Maybe bc you are more open and you don´t care if they have children from a previous relationship. And you don´t keep asking what happened to the mf.
You appreciate how they look, the way they dress (nice everyday), that they look beautiful everyday. And you can say that.
Colombian ladies look different for you guys so that´s why they feel more appreciated.

But is not bc actually you look good, could be "i love you bc of the way I am when I´m loving you."

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

peteyw says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:32:

If all this was a scam to get to the U.S., she can't stay legally if you file for divorce since you guys have only been married 10 months; or am I wrong? Its important to press charges that she hit you, you didn't hit her; that way she can't use your 'cruelty or physical abuse' as a way around the immigration law.

Sorry, I know you must be torn up inside. Let INS know you're getting 'un-hitched' and where they can find her.

Putukusi says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:45:

Man, I feel for you and I hope that I've learned a lesson from this. No wonder men are pigs and I'll be the first to admit it. But there's a cause and effect. Give me an honest woman and I'll be a gentleman. Give me a lying skank, and I'll be a playboy pig. I just feel sorry for the sincere woman out there that gets played because of all the girls who have played the guy.

Have you ever called her and her "Primo" has answered the phone? I've learned that Primo is code for the real boyfriend.

Was your wife legal in the US? Visa requirements include a criminal background check. If she did have a record, you should have known about it. Did she ever tell you that she was in the DAS and had to go on some undercover sting operations and practice "extractions" when she was supposed to be meeting with you?

Another thing I've learned is that Colombia has the largest gay male population on the planet. Every guy the girl says hi to is gay if he's not a Primo.

Also, avoid those mail order scams. The girls are actually paid to break things off with the guy so they can be kept in the pool. I knew a Peruvian girl that ran one of those and she says that the Colombians are famous for that.

As for my upcoming trip to Colombia, I think I'm going to get a ring back. I think that all of us who have had the "latina" experience should get together and write a Dummies Guide to Dating and Marrying a Latina.

Ride A Happy Skull

leftside says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:47:

Chelesupercono, Kentuckygreg2, elmodefoque, your comments cracked me up - and so true for a lot of cases!! But, LilaM also makes an interesting comment that should not be dismissed...

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:49:

tanks, guess that's the bottom line..........but, I do love her........

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:49:

is it possible to change my handle from el polo to playboy pig?

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:51:

or primo?

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:53:

Jajajja Putukusi, can I help you with that Dating thing for dummies??? I can give the other sight of the story jajajaj

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

Gator says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:53:

If SHE alleges domestic violence ("The following day, she returns with another cop and a RESTRAINING ORDER!!!!!!!! I have not heard or seen her since that day!") and she is half way there with the restraining order she can stay legally. In that case, domestic violence, ICE will allow her petition to remove conditions for permanent residence to be filed and considered.

Yes, you likely were played for the green card express. Since you no longer have any say in the process I would just move on, has as it may be. If you can prove fraud in the application at the embassy in Bogotá. Nothing on the Colombian police report that had to be filed as part of the visa process?

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:56:

I demand a response!!!! :)

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:57:

I like the sound of "Playboy Pig"

morphus says on Jan 4, 2008, 10:57:

Some Colombianas make better hookers than wives.

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:00:

Lila, what is the other side of the story??????? Gator, that's why i want the P.I. in Medellin, apparently, I have now found out, criminal charges were filed against her by her ex-boyfriend, whom she slept with (after we were together), got drunk with and reportedly attacked!

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

wendell13 says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:02:

Get a divorce and move on...there are plenty of other green cards sharks here in Colombia that you can hook up with

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:04:

hahahahahaha, no thanks!

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

rhydewithdis says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:05:

You should book the next flight back to MDE and get yourself another one! That will show her =)

They said I couldn't play football I was too small / They say I couldn't play basketball I wasn't tall / They say I couldn't play baseball at all / And now everyday of my life I ball.

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:07:

Wendell13 it looks like your avatar is having a orgasm dude, sorry...

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:09:

man, don't give up on colombianas, all you gotta do is get that CHUCHA AND RUN.
DON'T STAY IN ONE PLACE, REMEMBER CHUCHA AND THEN RUN
you could hit all the cities doing that

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:18:

lgpaa The other side of the story about dating with a colombian girl mmmm I can write a book with more than 100 tips.

0. First tip, before you date a colombian lady.... find a friend that know very well colombia to make a profile of her. Sounds snob but that´s the way it is.
1. On line dating lot of loosers do that, but lot of good people do it too. Get to see where she comes from and then you realize what her needs are.

And so on....

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

Lowell says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:20:

I'm begining to think that there are more foolish gringos than smart ones. At this moment I know of 3 that are in Colombia, staying in dangerous towns and may be setting themselves up for a whole lot of missery.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:21:

they don't know, they just don;t know

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:23:

if you wanted to do the online dating you can go to myspace, but I would'nt trust those sites at all, for all you know she could be a 300 pounder whose parents nicknamed her "lil cutie" when she was 2 months old.. jajaja

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:24:

www.myspace.com

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:25:

wow, why do i feel worse with the reading of each comment?

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:31:

omg lgpaa there is no reason for that, when you met someone you take a chance in your life to win the lottery, you can get the best prize or you can live another experience. Lies are lies, there are no excuses to lie to the person that you are going to share your life with. The thing is thats a red alert for you. Do what you have to do investigate, and define who is she... If you ask me i will get rid off her inmediatly....

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:31:

Hang in there dude.

miamimike says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:32:

elmodefoque says on Friday January 4th, 2008 8:20:

i see guys here on this site who sooner or later will be in the same boat as you but refuse to listen.
many of these women do this for a living. I've met broads in Barranquilla that have been engaged to 5 different gringo modefouque in less than a year.
Listen just think about it for a minute.
I go to Queens, i can't even get the time of day from colombianas
I go to Colombia, all of the sudden i'm the verga grande, top dog, all the broads find me interesting and handsome.
Ok. now put one and one togther what do you get

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Elmo--One thing for sure(as I have posted a zillion times)----- this Chica will end up down here in Miami if she is in fact not already here. Take that to the Bank! Probably living in Sunny Isles, Miami Beach, Hialeah or Kendall/Sweetwater! After they dump their American Husbands, they gravitate to Crazy "Ol Miami and blend in with the crowd! LOL Wow--30 Grand! Yet some guys here continue to Send those Monthly wiregram Money Packages, even after reading sad tales like this! Stop it! Please don't tell me she was living in Union City, NJ,,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

Putukusi says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:36:

Polo, I now dub you "Playboy Pig" Knight of the No Tell Motel

Ride A Happy Skull

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:38:

Thanks

Putukusi says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:39:

Lila, heretofore you shall be called, "The Profiler; Protector of the Naive Gringo in Love" Now we need to find a spandex suit and cape for you. What kind of mask do you like?

Ride A Happy Skull

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:43:

Keep the distance Putukusi, I´m not going to answer that...

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

Putukusi says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:45:

Ah, Lila, you just did answer that. So, spandex suit, cape, no mask. Can you wear glasses to conceal your secret identity?

Ride A Happy Skull

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:51:

My secret Identity??? omg my name is lila what´s the problem with that, and yes I wear glasses despite I´m almost 20/20 but anyway I´ll have eye surgery soon

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:54:

Guys, lets put all these into focus.
I’m not saying all colombianas ARE deceitful, dishonest, two-faced insencere, mendacious heartless thieves, ABSOULUTLY NOT!!
In that case I will be calling ALL my female relatives including my fokin mother and fokin sisters’ liars and cheats too.
What I do question is the TRUE MOTIVE of a colombiana seeking “love‿ in the arms of guys who happen to live in good ol USA while she has MILLIONS of colombianos all around her. OK, THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT.
DON’T STOP, GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT
That alone should raise a RED FLAG, NOT ONLY RAISE A RED FOKIN FLAG BUT THAT FLAG SHOULD GO UP YOUR ASS UNTIL YOU YOU SCREAM IN PAIN and start wondering, hey what’s wrong with this picture? why are her compatriots not good enough for her, what makes me so fokin special, dolares? USA passport? daahh
There are Millions of happy Colombian couples and we only get to meet the ones that only find gringos attractive for this or for that reason.
COME ON!!! GIVE ME A FOKIN BRAKE, WAKE THE FOK UP FOR CRIST SAKE AND SMELL THE FOKIN COFFEE.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 11:59:

Elmo, everyone have their own taste, so if you don´t like some food what do you think you have to do.... eat it bc is the only that you have in front of you???? no way, you eat what you like, not what you HAVE to eat. See you later guys going to a meeting.grrr

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:02:

i forgot

thank you!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kentuckygreg2 says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:06:

You are better off without her. While it may sting now, you will thank God a year from now.

Love and happiness!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:13:

lila, funny how colombianas taste for different food only happens to come from the richest, greatest country in the planet USA, don't know of any colombianas dying to eat food from haiti guatemala zimbawee

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:15:

ecuador, nigeria, papu new guinea, nicaragua etc. only USA

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:15:

china, korea, viet nam, salvador, only USA

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:16:

"Es mejor llorar en un Mercedes que sonreir en buseta" Anónimo "Es mejor ser rico que Pobre", Pambelé"

aja Lila, y que con esos dichos vanidosos?

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:16:

peru, dominican republic, saudi arabia, only USA

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

scotty says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:19:

this is a story that is common concerning gringos and Colombianas. I cant begin to tell you all the people i have met who have gone to Colombia married a woman , brought her back to the states or Europe or where ever and BOOM! the problems start., most of the time its just a green card shark making her way into the states. business as usual.
just write it off as experience and move on.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:19:

I rest my case!
why the fok did i drop outta law school?
for fokin around now i clean toilets instead of doing what i really like, arguing!!
I

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:21:

now i go home!

i wish all a peacefull and delightfull weekend.

thank you and good nite

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

El Diablo says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:30:

"I was shocked! I told her it was disrespectful of her to have left school 1.5 hours earlier and not let me know. I would have called her under similar circumstances.........She became irate."

You've got the leash on way too tight in my opinion. I don't call my wife everytime a slight change occurs in my daily plans and I doubt you do either. She might have called you to tell you she'd be a few minutes late but by your own admission it was only a few minutes.

I don't know whether you've been played or not, we're only hearing one side of the story. But it wouldn't be the first time a guy was played after marrying a foreign woman he barely knows and met while in essence on vacation. I think you really need to know the gal you are marrying, her family and friends also. I doubt you can do that on a few romantic vacations. I think its better to just move there and get to know the people before ever thinking about bringing a fiancee or wife back.

There's too many of these stories and I don't blame the girl as much as I blame the gringos who bring them over. It's the gringos responsibility to know if they are marrying a shark and not anyone else's.

Sorry if this has happened to you!

Lowell says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:36:

Not many women will be truly happy away from their home envrionment. I'd never consider taking my wife to the USA. And for the most part she doen't want to be there. Except for the openness of the countryside and some of the products.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

guacharaca says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:36:

Check her permanent resident application to see if she declared her stay in Venezuela. She should have filed a police report from both Colombia and Venezuela because she was working in Venezuela as well as lived in Colombia.

Colombianos: Las armas os han dado independancia, las leyes os daran libertad. (Santander)

Chelesupercono says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:38:

I tend to agree with Lowell: most Gringos are dumb asses when it comes to women from countries like Colombia and others. They almost never know anything about the culture, society and how the locals view Gringos....which I can accept it some ways for the following reason: After you have lived, f^cked and been f^cked over by the top mercenaries on the planet (GRINGAS)......well suddenly being with a women that actually acts feminine and not comparing the size of her BALLS to YOURS.......man you just have to fall for them.......remember the man women thing......almost extinct in the USA

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

minina says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:41:

To gringoinbogota:

Please DO NOT generalize about paisas!.

Not all paisas are like that. That is like saying that all colombians or most colombians are narcos, paracos, scammers, or thieves.

Thanks.

Happy New Year.

durito says on Jan 4, 2008, 12:56:

How about this, don't get married to a girl you have spent 5 -- 10 day vacations with. That's less than 2 months together and all of it on vacation.

I don't see how this type of relationship works out between two people regardless of where either one is from.

MitchAlvarez says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:26:

yo pienso que si un guevon se deja engañar pues quien lo manda. a mi una mujer no me hace esa ni por el putas pues. el que da papaya hasta en la china se aprovechan.

colombiana o lo que sea. plus please guys not all colombian women are the same. mas respetico por favor a las bellezas de mi pais. hay de todo pues, putas y decentes. pero si turistas buscan perritas aprovechadoras pues que no vengan a llorar despues.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escasez de aguardiente. :)

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:31:

eavemaria pues mejor dicho MitchAlvarez... that was the most sensical thing I've read on this site, I agree with every single word, THANK YOU!!!! You understand to a tee!

paisa29 says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:31:

minima... eso es lo que le vengo diciendo desde hace tiempo, pero no hay caso. Lastima que no sabe todas las cosas buenas que se ha perdido de laraza paisa, es su perdida... no nuestra.

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:34:

honestly, mitchalvarez, you sum it up beautifully, i could not have put it better myself.

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:35:

Mitch,
No soy turista, ni fui buscar perra. Esta mujer se presento como una mujer seria, que queria familia, hogar........

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

rhydewithdis says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:37:

Personally, I wouldn't mind marrying a paisa, they are of course some of the most beautiful women on earth. That being said, I would never promise any of them that I would bring them back to the States with me. When I am down in Medellin, I tend to stay there for several months and when I meet girls and they ask me when I am going back to the US, I leave my return date open ended. Mainly because I can stay around longer if I wanted to, and also because I want to see where the girls' head is at.

If I ever did get serious with one, it would be while I'm living setting their expectations to virtually nil in terms of her chances to get any real $ out of me or move back to EEUU. If she sticks around and is good, then maybe I'd consider it...

They said I couldn't play football I was too small / They say I couldn't play basketball I wasn't tall / They say I couldn't play baseball at all / And now everyday of my life I ball.

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:37:

"No soy turista, ni fui buscar perra. Esta mujer se presento como una mujer seria, que queria familia, hogar"

asi se presenta todas... no?

mujer sin juicio, nadie la respeta.

diabloblas says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:38:

for everyone of these stories i have dozens from dozens of other 3rd world countries...from dozens of other self styled worldly expats

El Polo says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:42:

"avoid those mail order scams. The girls are actually paid to break things off with the guy so they can be kept in the pool. I knew a Peruvian girl that ran one of those and she says that the Colombians are famous for that"

Apparently this is a problem in Peru as well

ColombianoGringo says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:44:

Hermano,

Lo siento por usted. Se encuentra en una situación nada envidiable. Como le han dicho, ella se puede quedar muy fácilmente con solo decir que usted la maltrato. Lo mejor que puede tratar es probar de que ella cometió fraude al solicitar la visa. Si ella no divulgo su pasado criminal, capaz seria suficiente para comprobar dicho fraude.

Le deseo lo mejor, pero póngase las pilas y no se deje joder mas de esta vieja. Ella lo ha jugado muy bien hasta ahora. A quien se le ocurre mandarle $30K a cualquier persona sin saber exactamente como se esta gastando? Acaso nunca fue a ver el supuesto almacén en persona?

Pero no se ponga a perder mas plata con investigadores en Medellin que de nada le servirán. Hay otro tipo de profesional en Colombia que seria mas eficaz para una solución final y mucho mas barato.

Ya quite a esa vieja de su foto y por nada del mundo la reciba si algún día le viene a pedir cacao. Si vuelve, sera no mas para joderlo y robarle mas.

MitchAlvarez says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:46:

lgpa listo papa. i got you. but you know what. you learned your lesson. well at least i hope you did.

i hope thats not your ex on the picture?

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escasez de aguardiente. :)

capitan_centella says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:48:

Eso es ser PENDEJO. . . Pero, ese es el problema cuando a un gringo le dan demasiada atencion, cree inmediatamente que la vieja esta enamorada de el. Lo tumbaron mijito. Y creame que en la corte, ella va a jugar la carta de "mosquita muerta", "no rompo un puto plato".

Obviamente no todas las mujeres son asi, pero no se por que los gringos, cuando van a colombia y reciben esa "atencion" no la ven venir. Usted no es el unico, tampoco fue el primero y creame que no sera el ultimo. Lo mejor que puede hacer es coger a su chino y salir a correr tan lejos como pueda. Esa trepadora lo va a dejar seco, y mucho peor. . . si logra la ciudadania le da la oportunidad de ir a los eeuu, asi esa maldita bruja tendra el chance de perpetuar la mala fama de los colombianos en el exterior.

Mala cosa.

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

ColombianoGringo says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:49:

Que hubo Capitan,

Como le va "down under"?

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:56:

Cologringo, Mitch,
bien dicho y sinceramente gracias..........Capitan, me siento como pendejo y pallaso!!!!!!!!!! y la puta perra ya esta aca en USA!

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:57:

I will leave her photo up as a f'ing warning/mug shot!!!!!!!!!!! if you see her!!!!!!!!! stay away!!!!!!!! and she must be the one paisa that sucks in bed!

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 13:58:

haha, that is amusing Igpaa!

ColombianoGringo says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:04:

"and she must be the one paisa that sucks in bed!"

Ouch! Way to hit her where it hurts.

I hate to be crass, but the best revenge is for her to see you happy with some other chick. My gringa ex-wife nearly lost it when she realized I was dating twentysomethings all around Houston within months of our separation.

Strobers says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:09:

The best advice on this thread is the one about knowing a woman's family. When you get married, in essence you are marrying the family too. Ask yourself some questions. What is the mom like? How does she treat her husband? How does he treat her? How do they deal with problems? What's the family dynamic like?

Also, if you even SENSE a red flag because your lady did something questionable, chase that gut feeling down. Don't ignore it. A red flag means Warning.

When I was in my dating stage I dropped women left and right the minute I saw something questionable, because I new instinctively that it was just the tip of the iceberg.

I'm sorry Igppa that you had to learn the hard way.

"Life is too serious to be taken seriously"

ColombianoGringo says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:11:

"Also, if you even SENSE a red flag because your lady did something questionable, chase that gut feeling down. Don't ignore it. A red flag means Warning."

Sage advice. Never ignore the red flags. Your woman should NEVER be unreachable.

peteyw says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:14:

While Igpaa's situation is distressing for some, hilarious to others and heart wrentching for him; I have to put this in perpective.

The Colombiana is a complete novice when it comes to getting CASH from a GRINGO. No one is as clever, schemeing and devious as a Gold-Digging GRINGA. 30K is child's play to these ladies.

Doesn't matter what social-income strata you're in the Gold Digger Gringa will squeeze it out of you. I have a buddy, nice guy, sweet in his way and without much money, but a small insurance business in California. He married a typical gold-diggin' ho for 18 months: he bought her a new car, big ring, nice clothes, and paid for her final year college tuition. On graduation day she walks down the aisle in her cap and gown with her diploma in one hand and divorce papers in the other. Served him the papers when he went up to congratulate her. In the divorce decree she got another 100K as a settlement on top of everything.

On the other end of the economic spectrum. How much did Paul McCartney just pay..what half of England to divorce his wife. How much did brain dead Britney Spears have to pay that Male-Digger Kevin Fedderline to get rid of him? A wad of cash, alimony and a house and what little sanity she had left.

One of these Gold-Digging Gringa's actually had the nerve to ask me to buy her a condo in San Francisco on our first date!! And the b**tch was serious too! When I refused, she mentioned that her 22 year old (and smokin' hot) daughter thought I was really cute. These ladies (if I can call them that) have no shame.

Let's stop blaming Colombianas; I know too many really nice ones. Let's just realize that people (men and women) are shitty all over the world. This could happen to anyone, anywhere. And El Diablo is right, we have only heard one side of this story.

MitchAlvarez says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:16:

peteyw. AMEN.

thank you

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escasez de aguardiente. :)

paisa29 says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:16:

Siempre que yo vengo a leer el foro, me encuentro con historias de gringos que hablan pestes y juzgan super mal a las mujeres Colombianas, pero no recuerdo muchos casos en los cuales las Colombianas están renegando sobre los gringos por la forma en que han maltratado a muchas de ellas o les han roto el corazón.

Será que es una forma para llamar la atención o matar el tiempo libre porque no tienen nada mejor que hacer?

manINred says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:20:

paisa29 estoy completamente de acuerdo con vos. hay hijueputa gringos que tratan horible a las mujeres colombianas tambien, pero en este sitio siempre la victima es el pobre gringuito. Tenes razon en lo que decis.

Lowell says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:22:

Yep, one of my big mistakes was not checking out the family first. Away from her family, my wife is an easy person to be with. I think that now she's starting to see the light. Very slow to see it, but some progress is good.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

Putukusi says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:30:

One other word of advice. Never, ever buy her Victoria's Secret. No matter how many times she says she wants to model the goods for you. You're just buying them for the Primo.

Ride A Happy Skull

diabloblas says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:34:

there's a reason a lot of latino countries consider what we term in laws as political family

lgpaa says on Jan 4, 2008, 14:45:

primero, soy boricua no un gringo. segundo, yo ne estoy jugando mal a colombia ni a las colombianas, deben leer el otro foro mio "not in the face"............yo hasta estaba impuesto mudarnos a Medellin para ELLA sentirse mas comoda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pero, ahora encuentro que fue ELLA que no tenia intenciones regresar a Medellin!

I have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy.

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 16:41:

Anyway elmo, habla de las mujeres que se fijan en los hombres del pais más rico y poderoso del mundo.... jejejeje ni que los gringos fueran los dueños de todo el país. Entonces que porque se fijan en las colombianas..,... porque tenemos el amazonas y dos mares!!! por favor!! si el mundo fuera como lo soñamos que aburrido sería.

Depende siempre depende, si es una muerta de hambre aqui en colombia se vende por 3 salidas a comer almuerzo ejecutivo. Les parece que todo lo que brilla es oro.

Si el señor tiene una mula y 3 costales llenos de cafe y la señorita no tiene ni con que envenarse pues claro el tipo le parece un partidazo!!!

Pero imaginense a esa misma mujer (de cualquier país del mundo) y le llega un tipo con carro y un diente de oro jajajaj imagínese pierde la conciencia.

Si no vean el caso de las Rusas con los españoles, de todos los aminocuadros que han llegado del africa a España y que viven en la miseria, pero de todos los males el menos peor no creen? esto para analizar un poco la sicología de estos especímenes y aclaro de cualquier país del mundo.

El amor existe y no me queda la menor duda lo que pasa es que es bien bien especial y tiene que tener uno el corazón abierto para encontrarlo y en ese camino para encontrarlo se encuentra uno muchos obstáculos como estas bellezas venidas a más que al ver uno con cara de extranjero les dan la ilusión de que pueden mejorar su vida o huir de algún problema.

De cualquier manera muchachos para cambiar de lavadero es mejor quedarse con el de uno jejejeje

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

LilaM says on Jan 4, 2008, 16:44:

Polo no te parecen divertidos!! jejej a mi si

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

wendell13 says on Jan 4, 2008, 18:22:

One thing that has been said over and over about Colombia....no dar papaya

What is really sad about Colombian culture is that they seem to be proud of this

gabolicious says on Jan 4, 2008, 19:25:

vaya! no hay nada nuevo bajo el sol, querido amigo... siento lo de su experiencia con esa tipa... y me atrevo hacerle un comentario de hombre a hombre: hay que abrir bien los ojos para la proxima

suerte!

"The new land of opportunities: Colombia!" ----- Mr Miguel_Clavo on PBH

minina says on Jan 4, 2008, 22:22:

"minina... eso es lo que le vengo diciendo desde hace tiempo, pero no hay caso. Lastima que no sabe todas las cosas buenas que se ha perdido de laraza paisa, es su perdida... no nuestra."

Paisita..yo lo que creo es que al susodicho una paisa lo rechazo y por eso habla pestes de nosotras. jijiji.

panthdave says on Jan 5, 2008, 04:38:

Elmo here we go again you said it all...

panthdave Miami

Rob77 says on Jan 5, 2008, 07:02:

Hey GIB, I'm not so sure I agree with your percentages. I agree that far fewer Colombianas are interested in gringos now than before. But I don't think such a high percentage of women here are players. Maybe I've just been lucky to not run into them, or I see the signs early and know to avoid them. But, I have only hung around with sincere Colombianas. No Colombian women has ever asked me to give them money or buy them gifts. If they ever did, that would be the last time they saw me.

I think there are many more sincere Colombian women here than the country is given credit for. Most people simply don't know the right places to look for sincere women with good family values. You are killing your chances if you are looking in clubs, bars, etc. The idea that you will be able to swoop down and find the perfect partner in a few days in the country, then plan a lifetime of understanding is ridiculous. And if these guys don't speak the language, they are acting more like picking from cattle them selecting a life partner!

To go to another country not being bilingual or bicultural is the first mistake. If you cannot communicate well with women and don't understand the subtleties of their culture, how can you expect to objectively evaluate whether they are sincere and share the same values with you, or are just decent actors.

We always have a good laugh when we see the tons of gringos hanging out in the zona rosa. Most of them will end up in short-lived relationships filled with misunderstanding and heavy disappointment. But, you know what, these gringos are not so innocent. They came here for hot chocha at a bargain, and in the end they will get what they paid for it. If they were really looking for a partner to completely share life with, they would learn the language and culture first. But, since they don't do that, they are just grabbing a trophy wife with a huge, lasting price tag!

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

Rob77 says on Jan 5, 2008, 08:49:

"but put a credit card on a dog they will fuck that." -chorizo

Ouch! Sounds like a lot of resentment built up there.

It may very well be there are lots of foreign dogs walking around here looking for a matching perra. They may try to blame the Colombiana, but perhaps they just picked a woman with the same poor values as them, and are now paying for it. Lot of guys visiting Colombia with their priorities f*cked up.

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

tomtom33 says on Jan 5, 2008, 09:05:

I came looking for hot chucha and wound up with a very solid novia. We have been together for 4 years now. Fortunately I still find the time for a little on the side. And my novia knows that I do this.

Unlike GIB, I could just never be faithful. But I don't pretend to be, either.

Oh, and I encourage her to get some strange as well. I can't handle her sexual appetite anyway. Unfortunately, she chooses to remain monogamous.

MitchAlvarez says on Jan 5, 2008, 10:20:

tomtom did i read right? you encourage your woman to get other men?

did you also say you cant satisfy her?

im confused man. i always read your comments, what going on bro?

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escasez de aguardiente. :)

tomtom33 says on Jan 5, 2008, 11:26:

You read it right, Mitch. If I am going to play, it is only fair that she should have the same opportunity.

She always seems to want more sex. Four or five Os aren't enough. Part of it, I think, is that she wants to make sure that I get all I want at home.

And, GIB, there are other options. My way works fine for me. Everything is open and above board. If any of my amigas show up without calling, they know that I could be busy. And, hell, sometimes I just like to be left alone.

Chelesupercono says on Jan 5, 2008, 14:54:

tomtom....I salute you man...finally a man that walks the talk....I am same way with all of my women and it works great....."whats good for the goose is good for the gander" such a great and uncomplicated way to live.......saludos

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

eywed says on Jan 5, 2008, 15:14:

Bravo tomtom33, You found a stress free life style . Amazing how not running around lying all the time can set you free.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

tomtom33 says on Jan 5, 2008, 16:23:

Gracias. However, no life is perfect, certainly not mine. The only time that you are free of stress is when you are dead. I'll take a little stress.

MitchAlvarez says on Jan 5, 2008, 17:14:

hey im not sure if i want my wife going around with others. im sorry man i cant mess with that shit. i respect your opinion pero las guevas parce.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escasez de aguardiente. :)

tomtom33 says on Jan 5, 2008, 17:20:

Yo entiendo, Mitch. There are normal folks out there who do not think like I do. I would never say, "Do as I do."

travelingirl says on Jan 5, 2008, 17:21:

Yay, good to hear there are some men out there that aren't like tom is that regard. (no offense tom!)

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

Robert Jorge says on Jan 5, 2008, 21:01:

Tom, Rubito would agree with you. As a matter of fact, your brief description of your "arrangement" was so close to what Rubi has mentioned in the past, that I would have thought you were actually him. But you didn't use the F word continuously with vitriol and anger ... so I guess you are really you.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

eywed says on Jan 5, 2008, 21:45:

Ahhhh tg to each his own as long as noone gets hurt.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

RUV says on Jan 6, 2008, 00:58:

Tom,

Nice picture. Hopefully you can keep that one for a while.

tomtom33 says on Jan 6, 2008, 05:02:

RUV, I have already given her up, very high maintenance. But she did take a great photo.

RUV says on Jan 6, 2008, 05:25:

Tom,

I meant her as an avatar. I thought Desi had you remove the last one.

Thanks,

tomtom33 says on Jan 6, 2008, 05:35:

Sorry for my misunderstanding. No one made me change the last one. I just like variety.

In the past Peter has asked my to change my avatar photo.

sameul11 says on Jan 6, 2008, 05:54:

Wow saying that it is impossible to find a latin woman who will love you forever and treat you well is impossible?!?!?! Jesus man, I know models who are good girls who cant find a guy who wont cheat on them and that treats them well! You know when a latin girl comes to the US she is exotic...Well the same goes for foreigners going to latin countries. Blue or green eyes make most latin girls' hearts skip a beat. And what woman doesnt like a foreign accent?? I know certain parts of brazil where the women will sleep with you just because you are blond. I keep going back to latin america because the girls keep getting better and better. I think the mistake that alot of people make is going to latin countries, dont learn the language and start throwing around money like its going out of style and then trying straight away to bring that person back to live with them.
To me I've think I've done very well avoiding these lobas who are just looking for $$ or a green card/...So how do you avoid gold diggers? First of all anytime you meet someone who doesnt give back as much as they get is suspect, And it is always better to give anything but money. Give them your time, your charm, your friendship, or something personal. These things are usually what are valued more anyways in latin america. The few times I've tried throwing around money--I've always regretted it. Tell her that you arent planning on living in the US. Tell her you sweep sidewalks for a living but are passionate about the painting that you do late at night(if true). If shes sticks with you then you've likely found one of the many amazing charming and beautiful(adentro como afuera) latin women that exist in the world. And when a latin woman loves you it is something you've probably never experienced before. If you have ever heard the frase "Mi Vida" from a latin women who meant it, you know what I mean!

Bam Bam says on Jan 6, 2008, 06:12:

Elmo-

you are one funny motherfucker

GIB-

I really enjoy reading your posts. You have a good view of everything, very real and full of real life experience.

LilaM says on Jan 6, 2008, 08:04:

Nice comment sameul11, finally, someone got the meaning of that.

"Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer." Ed. Cunningham

RussianFred says on Jan 6, 2008, 10:00:

I agree with Scotty and many others. She used you to get into the USA. I bet she was a hooker. Most of the young pretty poor girls I meet were / are undercover hookers. No punt!

Shank the Bitch!

Annual Drug Deaths: Tobacco: 395,000, Alcohol: 125,000, 'Legal' Drugs: 38,000, Illegal Drug Overdoses: 5,200, Marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?--Ralph Nader

Bam Bam says on Jan 6, 2008, 11:23:

Samuel11,

Whereabouts in Brazil is this?

I am asking for lgpaa's sake and not the fact that I have blonde hair and green eyes....I SWEAR!!! ; )

Strobers says on Jan 6, 2008, 15:23:

Nicely said Samuel,

I never knew that love could be so absolutely fulfilling until I met my wife.

"Life is too serious to be taken seriously"

osuspain says on Jan 6, 2008, 21:18:

As far as all the prepagos, 3 for 1 specials or amor de los 4. STD's is all fun and games till BAAM (one get's tagged).

Not all of them come wrapped up with a FROM tag.

Wrap it...for everyday is a raining one.