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Help with a question on Form G325-A

I am the US Citizen and the Petitioner,
My fiancée lives in Cali and is the Beneficiary,

Regarding her G325-A's (one form prints four nearly equal pages) which I'm including in my K-1 package I'm sending to USCIS, who is the "Applicant"? Who signs her G325-A pages?

I would assume it is her - but then from reading the instructions it's clear that many Petitioners are completing forms for women they may have only met in person one time and thus are not in Colombia with their fiancée.

Thanks!

By flaleo on Apr 20, 2005, 13:18 in Visa & paperwork. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


Dan says on Apr 20, 2005, 13:46:

in a way, Both in the application, you need a G325A for both of you. One copy (all four pages) for you and one for her. You sign yours and she signs the one with her info.

God Bless America!

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flaleo says on Apr 20, 2005, 14:06:

Regarding "her G325-A".

If it requires her signature, and the couple has only met once (not my case, but I won't travel for another month), are people mailing/overnighting the form to Colombia (for signature) and then back to the US (for mailing in K1 pacakge)?

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Neonovo says on Apr 20, 2005, 14:14:

G325-A is signed only by you, the petitioner. She is the beneficiary. No need to go through all of that FedExprssing forms back and forth.

Paz
Neonovo

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Sonny says on Apr 20, 2005, 15:10:

Neonovo You are not correct in this. The G325-A must be filled out by both and notarized. All four pages must be exact. She MUST sigh hers and he must sign his. How you want to get them back and forth is up to you.

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Dan says on Apr 20, 2005, 15:12:

neonovo I've never heard of notarizing before but the following is copied from the fiance petition.

Submit separate completed and signed Forms G-325A
(Biographic Information) for you and your fiancé(e).
Except for name and signature, you do not have to
repeat on the Biographic Information forms the
information given on your Form I-129F.

God Bless America!

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Neonovo says on Apr 20, 2005, 15:23:

Sonny & Dan... "Except for name and signature, you do not have to repeat on the Biographic Information forms the information given on your Form I-129F"

This has been a point of contention. It could also mean that "you do not have to repeat Bio Info already given, but YOU do have to repeat the SIGNATURE". YOU have to repeat the signature, not her.

In fact, if memory doesn't fail me, I made a specific inquiry from one of the PBH users, and they confirmed that I sign, not her.

I'll look for that communication and share when I get home later.

Paz
Neonovo

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flaleo says on Apr 20, 2005, 15:36:

I know it's "her" G325-A - but who is "Applicant" Neonova writes that "she is the Beneficiary" which I already understand... and I am the Petitioner. But who is the Applicant - the person completing a respective form? The Petitioner? The Beneficiary?

Ignoring what information must be repeated or not... and it's clear enough that the G325-A forms of the Beneficiary must contain answers of the Beneficiary - but who signs it?

HAS ANYONE SUBMITTED G325-A FORMS WHERE THE US CITIZEN TAKES THE BENEFICIARY-COMPLETED PAGES AND SIGNS WHERE IT SAYS "SIGNATURE OF APPLICANT" (THUS THE BENEFICIARY IN COLOMBIA DIDN'T SIGN)? AND WAS IT NOTARIZED?

If we find an example where this happened and the K1 was approved then we have our answer.

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Neonovo says on Apr 20, 2005, 15:42:

flaleo.. I already sent mine in, signed only by me. (I even have several forms ALREADY signed by her, but I kept them because of that exchange I had earlier with a PBH user who agreed with me, only I needed to sign it)
Either I'm on the right track, or I am way off base. Either way time will tell.

Neonovo

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Sonny says on Apr 20, 2005, 17:10:

neonovo If you sent your I-129-F form in without the Bio information on both of you you will be on one of those waiting a long time list. At the bottom of the G-325A Biographic information form it has a space for your signature and a place for you to print your name. I am sure you realize this but sending in your Bio with out hers, well, you will find out soon enough. I went to the USCIS here in Dallas and I was told that her information, translated, notrized, and complete had to be with mine with submitted with the I-129F form. I sent it as I was instructed but you may have a different case here and are not required to have all the information that is normally needed for the rest of us. Good luck but you needed her Bio, signed sealed and delievered. actually and word for word this is what they asked for so you deside
1 Payment of $165.00 ( better if it is a check)
2 I-129-F
3 G-325-A and BCIS photo ( Petitioner)
4 G-325-A and BCIS photo ( Beneficiary)
5 Birth Certificate/ US Passport (Petitioner)
6 Birth Certificate ( Beneficiary)
7 Letter of intent to marry ( Petioner and Beneficiary)
8 Proof of having met in person in the past two years
9 Proof of ongoing relationship

This is also part of the cover letter you needed to put on top of the I-129-F. I am sure you did this so please do not take my post as anything other then someone trying to help. Remember, it is better to hae then to need. Needing something only delays the process.

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flaleo says on Apr 20, 2005, 18:36:

Keep on topic/question please Nice conversation and all - but I don't question if I need her Bio info completed on my form or on her form... I'm only asking WHO signs HER form. CLEARLY, THE FORM ASKS FOR SIGNATURE AND PRINTING OF THE "APPLICANT" - Who is the Applicant?

Understand, there is much discussing (in instructions and guidelines) in proving that we met (photos, receipts, etc.). If people do K1 and get married after only one meeting - it implies that they're not together to obtain a Beneficiary signature, potentially. Thus, I'm not really sure who is meant by Applicant.

This is my last step before mailing my K1 package. Thanks!

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Sonny says on Apr 20, 2005, 19:38:

flaleo On the form you fill out you are the applicant and on the one she fills out she is the applicant. She must do the exact same thing you do. Just different information is all.

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Neonovo says on Apr 21, 2005, 07:23:

G-325; Of course, her bio info is included on hers... 3 G-325-A and BCIS photo (Petitioner) 4 G-325-A and BCIS photo (Beneficiary)

G-325; Of course, her bio is included on hers, and my info is on mine. But I signed BOTH forms. It makes sense that the initial step HAS to be originated with the PETITIONER.

Stating theat "I was told that her information, translated, notarized, and complete had to be with mine... submitted with the I-129F form" is confusing, because these G-325 forms need no translation, as it is mostly proper names and addresses.

Only the letters of intent to marry, and any other letters that establish the relationship need translation.

I would further assume, that AFTER she gets her pack, she'll be signing away, and providing her birth certificate, etc...

Paz
Neonovo

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lpdiver says on Apr 21, 2005, 08:01:

Perhaps your confusion stems from the fact That the g-325 form is used for many different types of applications. To determine what you need to do you need to backtrack to the I-129f instructions where it states, "Submit separate completed and signed Forms G-325 for you and your fiance." If you signed your name to her info your in never never land. But it is a simple error on your part that can be corrected...but it will take time.

T

"cook some rice!"

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Sonny says on Apr 21, 2005, 15:06:

Neonovo Let me help you here. If it is written in Spanish or any other language other then English, get it translated and notarized. If it is written in English translation is unnecessary don't you agree?
Get it notarized anyway.

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