Help! VISA help needed...

Michael B says on Sep 4, 2005, 20:14:

An attorney isn't going to get it done any faster than you could do it yourself, doesn't matter how much you pay him. All the money you're willing and/or able to spend won't get your petition processed any faster than Joe Schumck who fills the forms out himself. I don't usually jump people's case, but, since you asked 'Is there a significant age problem?' the answer is not just yes, but HELL yes.

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Sonny says on Sep 4, 2005, 20:33:

Sunsetrbest I must agree with Michael B on this topic. In most cases if you process your own paperwork and do it correctly you will probably get it completed sooner.
The age difference is and could be another topic. How old are you would be my first question.
You seem to be is a very big hurry to marry a 17 year old ( baby) and if that is the case then why not marry her there??? Slow down unless you have one foot in the grave already.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 4, 2005, 21:34:

I guess the guy's hooked up to a respirator and he doesn't have much time. But then, how much time do any of us have?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Dan says on Sep 5, 2005, 04:13:

people I work with have asked me why I didn't use a lawyer so I could get my wife to the US Quicker. And, like I told them, The only thing that a lawyer does is fill out the paperwork for you. That's it. Something that can be done yourself and you can save the $$ that would go into paying for one. I've also heard of a lot of people having more problems because they do have one (sometimes).

God Bless America!

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 5, 2005, 08:04:

From what I've seen The only way you can 'speed things up' is to not do things that will slow it down. As has been said above, the paperwork submitted by a lawyer goes into the same queue (pile?) as everyone elses. The best they could do for you is make sure the application is complete, but with just a little bit of reading you can do that yourself.

That said, some people feel more comfortable having other people do their clerical work and that's all well and good, but there is NO guarantee that the application submitted by a lawyer (which, in all likelihood will be filled out by their paralegal or intern, since it really isn't that complicated once you get past all the bureaucratic mumbo-jumbo) will be any better then one you do yourself.

If there is a large age difference, a hasty process could be to your disadvantage as you are going to have a tougher time proving the relationship is a viable one. My guess is that wanting to marry a 17 year-old you've known for only a short time is going to raise some red-flags at the interview and they are going to want to see a lot of proof of relationship (if they allow it at all due to her age).

But that's just me talking and what do I know?

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Neonovo says on Sep 5, 2005, 08:55:

I rather srew-up my own form... Than pay a lawyer to do it; My vote is the "do-it-yourself" way is the best way.
If you need a consultation, read UtopianCowboy's posts. He's your in-PBHhouse-expert.

Paz
Neonovo

(Pls post some pics of the 17 yr-old)

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802MARK says on Sep 5, 2005, 09:09:

LAWYER I HAVE A FRIEND IN CALI, HE IS NOT A LAWYER, BUT HE IS A MAN THAT CAN GET JUST ABOUT ANYTHING DONE.. AS I AGREE WITH EVERYONES STATEMENT ABOUT YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF, I COULD HAVE FILLED OUT MY PAPERWORK, BUT THERE WAS SO MANY MORE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AND PLACES TO GO TO GET PAPERWORK THAT MY LADY DIDN'T HAVE. COLOMBIA TO ME IS A PLACE THAT YES NO MAYBE IS A BIG PART OF LIFE, SOMEONE THAT KNOWS THE ROPES THE PEOPLE AND HOW TO GET IT DONE FAST IS A GREAT PLUS BY YOUR SIDE. HE CHARGES AROUND 700 TO 900 DOLLARS. sector1 at emcali.net.co IS HIS EMAIL YOU CAN WRITE HIM AND FIND OUT WHATEVER YOU NEED TO KNOW..

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silviat says on Sep 5, 2005, 21:44:

sunsetsrbest I have no idea if youwill have problems because of her age (but I imagine you guys will have to get ready a huge package of proof of relationship so you can take it with you to the interview).

And about the lawyer, I also think that you should do it yourself...

When we sent our application Seth was in the middle of a project (and we didnt know about www.visajourney.com (best friend of anyone going through a visa process) so he hired this guy http://www.arctec.com/ to fill the I-129F for us... We had no RFEs so that was good... but now we really think it was a waste of money that we could have avoid if we would have the time and the right sources of information.

The other thing is that the lawyer may advice you in how to put your case (specially since you have this particular situation of your fiance being under age)... but you will still have to figure out a ton by yourself...

If you want to pay the money and that makes you feel more secure thats fine... but we think its a waste of money , for cases like ours (with no particular situations).

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Sunsetsrbest says on Sep 6, 2005, 02:28:

Thanks for all the good advice... To all who sent good sound advice - thank you very much. To the others with personal comments that show total lack of understanding of me or my situation - get a life.

I will elaborate in an effort to help you formulate more biased and uninformed opinions:

I am not in a hurry for any reason other than I am a busy man and do not see any reason to delay processes when there are better ways to do things. As for the age difference I was asking about problems with the processes, I was not asking if people with small minds might have a problem with our age difference. It is obvious that anyplace in the world there will be men or women jealous, and who will hide behind being falsely offended - when in reality they wish they could have a similarly loving and sound relationship. The mental age and stability of this woman is more important than her actual age.

I was wary at first because of the age, but in time she has won my heart. If you cannot comprehend this emotion I am sorry for you. As for my status - my fotos are posted, and as you can see I am neither old or one foot in the grave. The fact I am attractive to women who may be younger is not something I have a problem with - although I have not dated a woman this young before.

To further enlighten you, please consider that I wanted to begin the process so that when she turns 18 (soon) we will already have much done. I was mostly interested in whether or not it is more prudent to wait for 18 before we file or begin the process now.

I make no personal statements or judgements to anyone makng comments without knowledge, but I would ask that if constructive thoughts cannot be presented than please keep them to yourself in the future. Ignorance is not attractive and often shows prejudiced tendencies.

Thank you for listening and please send any further comments that may help. Have a great day everyone.

PS: the lawyer is only beneficial for me because of the amount of paperwork and as one individual commented, it can be a smart move to have an insider aid in the process. only logical thinking.

PRATORIAXIV ~ LVDVS MAGNUS GLADIATORES ~ AUDENTES FORTUNA JUVAT ~ SEMPER FIDELIS

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Miguel says on Sep 6, 2005, 02:38:

I can only imagine... What kind of responses will be coming to THIS one!

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Lorenzo de Australia says on Sep 6, 2005, 06:03:

BellSouth? Hey all,

I was wondering if BellSouth has a webpage to send sms's in Colombia?

Does anyone know what the site is? I had
http://www.bellsouthim.net.co/

but that doesn't seem to work.

thanks
Lorenzo



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"...don't let life get in the way of living..."
Lorenzo 2004

Also, if you want to email me directly... as I'm not always that good with forums... email me at lorrytrippin2 at yahoo.com

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Lorenzo de Australia says on Sep 6, 2005, 06:05:

Ooops, Sorry posted my question in the wrong area Apologies for posting my question in the thread instead of on the normal page...

****** ******
"...don't let life get in the way of living..."
Lorenzo 2004

Also, if you want to email me directly... as I'm not always that good with forums... email me at lorrytrippin2 at yahoo.com

****** ******

****** ****** "...don't let life get in the way of living..." Lorenzo 2004 Also, if you want to email me directly... as I'm not always that good with forums... email me at lorrytrippin2@yahoo.com ****** ******

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Gator says on Sep 6, 2005, 13:36:

FYI Bell South no longer in Colombia-BellSouth was bought by Spain's Telefónicao which picked all of BellSouths SA markets. Name was changed to Movistar. You might try their web site. Big battle going on between Movistar and Comcel now so there are lots of good deals.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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flaleo says on Sep 6, 2005, 14:37:

I send SMS's from movistar.com all the time - it's free and easy.

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BAQ says on Sep 6, 2005, 15:45:

Call us in 3 years and we can refer you to a great divorce lawyer. HINT HINT HINT.

Semper Fidelis !

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bobbyb says on Sep 6, 2005, 16:21:

jejejjejeje y'all make me laugh 30% of ALL women have had a relationship with a guy that is at least 20 years older than them. These are the most succseful relationships. That's a fact Jack. I took the advice of someone on this site about speeding up the wait time by contacting my Congressman, so I did and she actually responded and is really contacting the embassy! I hope she gets it done. As far as lawyers go F**k 'em, do it yourself.
Enjoy the the young lady!

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 6, 2005, 16:45:

Yeah, I'm 87 and my wife is 23 and it's going great. Now if I could just remember her name....

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Dan says on Sep 6, 2005, 17:07:

Name? Man, I must have missed that part.

God Bless America!

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Michael B says on Sep 6, 2005, 18:45:

Gracie? Yes George?

I couldn't help overhearing you telling the bridge club girls how long we've been married.

Well, George, you know how proud I am to be married to you.

Yes, I know. But then a few minutes later you were all talking about graduating from high school.

That's right Geogre. We talk about a lot of things.

Well, I want you to call every one of them and tell the the year you REALLY graduated.....I'm not going to have everybody in town thinking that I married you when you were four years old.

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BAQ says on Sep 6, 2005, 20:25:

The TEXAS CHALLENGE Hay, lets have a "Texas Challenge". I'll race ya to see how many 17 year olds we can get engaged to on the street in one week. Here are the rules.

1. Be a Gringo with Money
2. Promise her a Visa to America
3. Tell her you love her
4. Be between the age of 3 and 110 (No kiddy cart or wheel chair)
5. Have a Face (2 eyes, 2 ears, a nose and a mouth) OK, nose optional
6. Repeat # 1 & 2

Am betting I can snag 3 a day, MINIMUM

Semper Fidelis !

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 6, 2005, 20:58:

Is this sort of like fishing where there's a limit of so many per day?

The way cable channels are these days, you could probably get your own channel to televise this.

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Sunsetsrbest says on Sep 9, 2005, 23:49:

Response... Hope you guys don't mind, but time is short here so I will have to capsulize my comments... hope this helps (or whatever).

1- She is well educated and from a well-off and well-placed family who does not need money or a gringo to save their daughter from some awful existence.

2- When we first spoke and spent time together it was with the idea that I would be moving to Colombia, otherwise she would not have persued me past our first encounters.

3- She prefers to live in Colombia, and will come to the US only if it is my request... she think Americans are generally arrogant pricks with a superiority complex and load of bigotism. If she read this thread she would probaly say "see - told you so"

4- Unfortunately as one responder said the idea is based solely for the visa etc... It is clear this person does not know Colombians very well, as the women in general take the marraige extremely seriously and don't throw their self-esteem away for a green card or money, but lord know the average American would sell their soul at the 7-11 for a few bucks if given the chance. Also as she already has a passport and travels the US visa is not a huge stretch.

5- She is a very beautiful woman, and doen not need to settle for an old man since she can pretty much have whatever she wants. This tells you that I am quite above average for any age you wish to choose. And since I do not settle either you should presume that we choose each other because we want this, not for any needs.

6- Suprisingly, and to my great pleasure, she exibits great wisdom, intelligence and patience for a woman of any age much less 18. I am quite proud of her in every way, and frankly feel sorry for people who cannot allow us to be happy because they do not like or understand our desires. This is akin to the intolerence in life for religion, races, and even sexual proclivities... dwell on it for a bit.

Hope this helps enlighten or at least help... if not, too bad.

Ciao

PRATORIAXIV ~ LVDVS MAGNUS GLADIATORES ~ AUDENTES FORTUNA JUVAT ~ SEMPER FIDELIS

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Sunsetsrbest says on Sep 9, 2005, 23:57:

By the way... As for BAQ... If what you do is hang out in brothels or seedy places where these women and men hang out, then maybe you are in your element to say these things- and I wish you luck with your bet and the impending STD you will aquire with it.

However if you saw both of us you would realize we are both quite attractive people and neither of us has a problem with the opposite sex.

And yes, I have the same results here in the states by the way, so it is not the "Gringo - I love you" effect. Just thought I'd bust your bubble as you dream of a hideous old man with a young girl.


PRATORIAXIV ~ LVDVS MAGNUS GLADIATORES ~ AUDENTES FORTUNA JUVAT ~ SEMPER FIDELIS

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Sunsetsrbest says on Sep 10, 2005, 00:08:

bobbyb... You hit the nail on the head... societal limitions and predjudices limit this, but the bottom line is most men are immature, and when they become mature, stable, and basically a good man to consider marraige and a life they are a bit older - say 30 and up. Even then only a few of them really have their priorities straight. The fact that some younger women are smart enough to know this and pursue men they know will be faithful, loving, kind and all the other meaningful things involved in a good family life that will last longer than the American "4 year itch" speaks volumes for their insight. I have seen the stats and I agree, it has certainly eased my mind as my typical American upbringing made me worry very much about the future of us in the beginning. Now I am comfortable with everything. Bobbyb has it right, and if it doesn't blend well, too bad.


PRATORIAXIV ~ LVDVS MAGNUS GLADIATORES ~ AUDENTES FORTUNA JUVAT ~ SEMPER FIDELIS

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 10, 2005, 09:06:

Why don't you post a few pics and then we can decide if what you're saying is true? On the internet everybody is above average. It's like Lake Wobegone on Prairie Home Companion.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 10, 2005, 09:09:

"I guess the guy's hooked up to a respirator and he doesn't have much time. But then, how much time do any of us have?" LMAO, No offence Sunsetsrbest but that was so funny

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bobbyb says on Sep 10, 2005, 10:40:

I spoke too soon Being a Boston liberal I automatically jumped to your defense without knowing all the facts, like YOUR age. If you read back you'll see I invoked the 20 year rule, 1/2 your age plus 7 years, any rule that is resonable and acceptable, my colombiana is 30 and I'm 50, I got what she wants and she's got what I want..it's nice for both of us. But if you are more than 40 years old you have to invoke the rules for fishing, ya' gotta throw back the little ones. It's OK to catch 'em but ya gotta throw her back in. I have an 18 year old daughter with a lot of teenage friends and you're fooling yourself if you think she ain't playing games with you. Regardless of country of origin, the little ones like to play. They need to play until they get older. I live in Georgia now and the Daddys' here have a rule, if a 40 year old guy shows up at their door for their teenage daughter they shoot, and if you showed up at my door for my daughter I'd just cut ya fucking balls off. But that's only because I'm a liberal.

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BAQ says on Sep 10, 2005, 20:23:

Sunset HAHAHA, man, if you read my posts, you would understand I am MARRIED to a Colombian and LIVING in Colombia so I would say I have just a LITTLE more insight than someone who flys down here for a few weeks. And where the hell did hookers enter this equasion?

The REASON you made yourself a target was your ORIGIONAL POST, GO RE-READ WHAT YOU WROTE.

In fact, PRINT A COPY and show it to your friends in the States, don;t tell them YOU wrote it and see what they say.

I find it interesting that you change your position from the original post to later posts:

09-05 you wrote: My fiancee is 17, and I have the parents permission to marry... I need the finest and quickest VISA attorney available to process her VISA. Price is secondary to the objective... any suggestions? Is there a significant age problem here?

09-06 you wrote: I am not in a hurry for any reason other than I am a busy man.....To further enlighten you, please consider that I wanted to begin the process so that when she turns 18 (soon) we will already have much done.

So, when you find many here have QUESTIONS about your origional post, you CHANGE YOUR STORY, then write all this self Serving "MR EGO" nonsense about how good looking you are and WE "MUST" be jealous. GIVE ME A BREAK!

IF you are NOT in a hurry and from what you now write, she WANTS to STAY in Colombia as you say she does, WHAT IS THE HURRY TO GET THIS 17 YEAR OLD TO AMERICA?

You act and write like you are the only person in America who can snag a 17 year old. Then you sit at your computer and scratch your balls trying to figure out WHY some of us here take exception to your statements.

Take a step back, take a breath and put it back in your pants, I know it is probably a crushing blow to your ego, but you are NOT the first person to get a proposal from a YOUNG Colombian girl.

As far as the AGE thing, my wife is 30 and I am 48, that being said, there is a BIG difference between 30 and 48 and 17 and 35. Don;t take my word for it, I could explain but it would take to long. Take some of your money and spend ONE HOUR with a psychiatrist, he/she can explain to you in detail what I would tell you about the problems when she grows up and no longer wants a DADDY.

Talk to someone, don;t talk to someone, that is your decision but REMEMBER this post 3 or 4 years down the road !

Semper Fidelis !

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 10, 2005, 20:48:

You can tell 'em but you can't tell 'em much.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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BAQ says on Sep 10, 2005, 21:17:

YEP Yea, you are right Cowboy. He might as well just say "Here's my sign"

SUNSET - I know we have been giving you some grief, but HONESTLY we are giving you some good advice, if you choose to take it. Guess thats why "Love is BLIND"

Just a thought

Semper Fidelis !

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ws244 says on Sep 10, 2005, 21:30:

17 year olds are not well educated, and well to do Colombian families do not let their daughters get married at 17.

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 10, 2005, 21:39:

Shoot! Even the poor ones... ...know better than to get married at 17.

But you old duffers gotta admit, that at 40+ that "high" of thinking you're some hot stuff for the teenagers is fun while it lasts. But I have never seen it last long enough to go and get married. But, hey! Sow them wild oats, big fella!

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BAQ says on Sep 10, 2005, 22:20:

BINGO Crazy, you nailed it, "While it lasts". Lasts long enough to get a residency visa, alimony and child support.

FACT - Friend of my wife's. She is 26 yrs old. Hooked a 58 yr old GRINGO, got the big fiance visa to america and married. Two months after she got married, she got pregnant, told the guy OOPS, was an accident. Had the baby, 3 years later, residency visa, one month later DIVORCE.

RESULT: Now has the child (american citizen by birth) she always wanted, a residency visa, gets alimony and child support and THEN moved to ALTANTA to live with OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS living there.

THIS IS A TRUE STORY, NOT FICTION. Pissed my wife off bad that her friend did it but what the hell, some (NOT ALL) of these girls have an agenda AND a "Game plan"

Like I said SUNSET, there are those of us who LIVE HERE AND KNOW JUST A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HOW THE GAME IS SOMETIMES PLAYED.

And I would wager a 17 year old wanting to marry a gringo 40+ years old HAS A GAME PLAN.

But what the hell do I know, Right? According to you I spend all my time in whore houses.

HERE'S YOUR SIGN !!!

Semper Fidelis !

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TACTICAL says on Sep 10, 2005, 23:01:

SUNSET, after reading all these posts, like it or not, BAQ, CRAZY4CALI & BOBBYB have some VERY VALID POINTS.

I think you should be listening to what they have to say. And I must admit, your initial post does give rise to "desperation".

As BAQ says, HERE'S YOUR SIGN

BAQ, that was just to funny !

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Sunsetsrbest says on Sep 11, 2005, 00:13:

Understood... I understand your points and as usual BAQ you make your points with the wit of a prepube... that's cool though... sorry you misread the intent of the post and you read desperaition where none exists. Guess you are waaaaaaaaaay too good for me, waaaaaaaaay better then me in every way I am sure. Tell you what... thanks for the advice... kiss my ass for the personal comments... and last but not least don't forget to clean up after you unload so much shit. Sorry for the language but at this point - just be glad we aren't in the same room dude. I demand respect even when you criticize me... as for the pics- they are on my page or whatever the hell you call it here. And if you need proof, I'm not looking for a date- thanks anyway. For the comment on education? I guess 3 languages, 2nd year college studies, and a very good head for philosophy means nothing? Bet she would whip you in contest bro... as for several weeks... I own a place in Co bro and am there quite a bit- as well as many other places. I never said I was better looking than any of you either- that's your lack of self-esteem, not mine. Don't know you, and since I'm not cruizin for a date don't care what you look like either. As for well to do not marrying at 17 or 18... maybe not in your circles, doesn't mean it doesnt happen... just means you are around women who dont marry early for any number of reasons (spoiled, egos, ugly, who knows and who cares) Thanks for the advice- will consider it after I filter out all the bullshit and lame crap from people who assume alot and know little... yes- definately talking about you BAQ.





PRATORIAXIV ~ LVDVS MAGNUS GLADIATORES ~ AUDENTES FORTUNA JUVAT ~ SEMPER FIDELIS

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Sunsetsrbest says on Sep 11, 2005, 00:26:

Oh, almost forgot... Since I have yet to ever receive any real advice or helpful suggestions in any of these forums since I joined (recently) it is logical to assume that I will never receive anything close to it or anything apart from the school locker room gossiping and bullshit. I suggest two things - first think before you speak because you all know that in real life none of you have the balls to speak like this, and secondly don't bother writing me because I simply cannot spare any more of my busy life and schedule trying to filter through the endless crap here in the site to locate the occaisional pearl of wisdom. Oh, sorry... almost forgot... BAQ - eat shit and die


PRATORIAXIV ~ LVDVS MAGNUS GLADIATORES ~ AUDENTES FORTUNA JUVAT ~ SEMPER FIDELIS

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bobbyb says on Sep 11, 2005, 05:30:

crazy4cali who you calling an old duffer? you ain't a duffer 'til you're 60 and then you get to be a geezer at 70.

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aztec says on Sep 11, 2005, 06:51:

Please calm down... ...Sunsetsrbest. I only know one of the posters on this site but believe they have good intentions in their advice to you. As you so succinctly stated "I will consider it after I filter out all the bullshit and lame crap". That is exactly what I recommend. Take the good and leave the rest.

In my case, I also married a much younger woman (she was 35 then). She has a University degree and had a good job with the "best" hospital in Bogotá. Her brothers and nieces are medical doctors, PhD's and lawyers. Needless to say, her family looked askance at my proposal of marriage since in their opinion she could perhaps do better and also marry a successful Colombian.

Having a successful marriage is difficult and requires a lot of hard work. The age, cultural, and religious differences only compounded our normal problems. It was hard for both of us but we would do it again and we both feel very lucky. A younger woman may well have given up.

On the matter of the visa, my wife also had a visa and traveled many times into and out of the States. We have personally prepared each and everyone of the documents required for her transition all the way through the U. S. Citizenship. Frankly, I think the process is too important to leave to a lawyer. You will need to accumulate the materials anyway so it behooves you to be intimate with the details. Using a lawyer will actually lengthen the time for completing the process.

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BAQ says on Sep 11, 2005, 10:30:

TRUGH hurts Wow SUNSET, when confronted with the truth, all you can do is throw insults, not address the facts, then cry and tell everyone you are going to pack up your toys and go home? I expected better from a "Very busy business man" with such worldly knowledge.

Respect? You "Demand" it? First life lesson for you, RESPECT is EARNED, those who DEMAND it fail. Business Admin 101, Stanford.

You have gotten LOTS of VERY GOOD ADVICE HERE, it is your fault you choose not to accept or acknowledge it.

WOW, so she graduated high school at 15 and now has 2 years of college? Yea OK.

You really need to keep up with what you write.

On 09-06-2005 you wrote: As for my status - my fotos are posted, and as you can see I am neither old or one foot in the grave. The fact I am attractive to women who may be younger is not something I have a problem with -

On 09-10-2005 you wrote: This tells you that I am quite above average for any age you wish to choose

Actually, it the GIRL I feel sorry for. When you are talking with the psychiatrist, tell him/her you want to get a copy of DSM-IV. Take a glance under the diagnostic codes for "Personality disorders", lets see if YOU can figure out which one you have. If ya have trouble let me know and I will get you your diagnostic code. Then you can read all about yourself. Actually, I have 2 different codes in mind for you. NOTE: DSM-IV is "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition APA". Lesson #2, Psych 101, Stanford

Seriously, you need some professional help. You need to RUN, not walk to a psychiatric facility.

But what do I know, I am still hangin out with the hookers.

HERE'S YOUR SIGN !

Semper Fidelis !

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 11, 2005, 10:39:

I didn't see any photos on his page.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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BAQ says on Sep 11, 2005, 10:43:

He is busy He probably took his photos along with his toys and went home.

But what do I know, I am hangin out with the hookers :-)

Semper Fidelis !

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BAQ says on Sep 11, 2005, 10:53:

TISK TISK Sunset, Sunset, Sunset, tisk tisk tisk, how can ANYONE help you if you are not going to be honest? (That is another diagnostic code)

On 09-11-2005, you wrote: "as for several weeks... I own a place in Co bro and am there quite a bit- as well as many other places".

Now, since you joined a month or so ago, you have started the following forum's, and YOUR FORUM TITLES ARE:

Help! VISA help needed...
Cypress district of Manizales? Flat in Cali? Guarantors?
Manizales?
Cartagena or Barranquilla?
Florida phone service...
Cart. or Medellin? Apartments...
Is Bogata safe?
Columbian jobs, etc...

This begs the question, WHY would someone who owns a place here and travels here a lot need to post such topics requesting information.

HERE'S YOUR SIGN !

Semper Fidelis !

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TACTICAL says on Sep 11, 2005, 11:12:

Sunset Wow man, lots of hostility. I think the problem is you want to "Shoot the messenger". Yes, BAQ is sometimes BLUNT, from reading some of his other posts he seems to tell it like it is without any sugar coating. That being said, HE (and the other) ARE CORRECT, regardless of how they word it.

For someone who describes himself as an older person and a business man, you act quite the child, cussing people, using veiled threats, changing your story, fibbing, ect.

Maybe you do need some psychiatric counceling, and before you go off on me, I am NOT hanging out with hookers.

Let us know what your diagnostic codes turn out to be. Now my curiosity is peaked.

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BAQ says on Sep 11, 2005, 11:37:

Update on time line, it speaks VOLUMES Well, checked some of Sunsets past posts. On JULY 1, 2005 he is posting asking for info on Barranquilla and Cartagenia.

He wrote: I will be living in Colombia for a few years, maybe permanent, and want to include things like food, safety (keeing in mind my gringo-ness jajajajaja), nightlife, women, jobs, vista, playa, and cost of living in the decision

LOOKING FOR INFO ON WOMEN JULY 1ST. So, seems like he has known his FIANCE for about 6 weeks, unless you are allready cheating on her before the wedding. Now THAT makes for a stable relationship.

To stay ON TOPIC, there is NO WAY you are going to get a fiance visa for her given the age difference and the amount of time you have known her. WON;T HAPPEN, unless you are gunna lie on the visa application about the amount of time you have known her and from your track record here with the TRUTH, I'd say that is a good possibility. Can you spell FEDERAL CRIME = FEDERAL PRISON?

Now I am curious, what ARE you doing? You have posted you are moving here for a few years, looking for work here, gunna retire here, looking for an apartment here, working in America, want to start a business here, have enough money to last you 7-8 years and NOW you want to get a fiance visa for the girl.

Now I understand why you get so hostile, your life is all over the place. Seems to be no clear plan for your life. (that is another diagnostic code).

HERE'S YOUR SIGN !

Semper Fidelis !

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cam0940 says on Sep 11, 2005, 11:43:

Throw the towel, Sunset. Just throw the damn towel. BAQ is taking you apart, surgically ripping you a new one.

Although you did get some good advice. Pride got you into this massacre of a sparring match.

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silviat says on Sep 12, 2005, 09:35:

Sunsetsrbest I think every situation is unique and just you and your fiance know about how legitimate your relationship is.

Just because of that I wouldnt spend time trying to make everyone else see it like that, if you know you guys are really in love, if you know you can make a life with her and you are secure enought to give it a try , just do it and be happy, work for it and stop trying to deffend your relationship... better start working on how to get together.

At the end, if things are good or bad you are the only one who will be enjoying your happiness or regretting your mistakes so... why to spend time an energy trying to show everyone things about your relationship?

If you are secure of what you are doing just go ahead...

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:32:

If it weren't for the visa application I'd agree with silviat. However, because sunsetsrbest has to convince the Consular Officer that his relationship is an honest one, I hope he doesn't get as defensive at his interview as he does over what some anonymous internet poster has to say about his relationship.

But the bottom line for a visa is that the more unusual the circumstances (e.g. 30-year age difference) the greater the burden of proof he'll have to overcome. If his fiance is going to the interview on her own, she better be ready to answer a lot of questions. If he's going with her, he better be ready as well. That's all.

Rich older gringo & VERY young colombiana with family's encoragement, is going to start off looking suspicious to the C.O. who's seen it a hundred times. Fair or unfair, Sunsetsrbest is going to have to prove his case is different, that's all.

Lots of visits/time in colombia with his fiance and her family, lots of photos to show a close relationship with her and her family, and other things to show it's about love and not money or advantage would help (IMO, anyway).

My take on this thread is that Mr. Sunsets isn't as sure (or as honest) about this as he purports, which is fine. But if us unschooled, random internet readers can pick up on the inconsistencies, a trained Consular Officer will see them before they even open the packet.

But, hey, it's his life, not mine so either way is no skin off my nose.

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TACTICAL says on Sep 12, 2005, 11:48:

Well said Very well said Crazy4Cali.

I think the problems started when Sunset got some advice/opinions/thoughts that he didn;t like. Althought some of them had a sarcasric flavor to them, they none the less had lots of truth to them and from the way I read them, the other posters were actually TRYING TO HELP THE GUY.

But Sunset got pissed and added fuel to the fire by throwing insults and posting with an "I am better than you" attitude. So obviously, some took offense and fired back.

In my humble opinion, people on this board really desire to help others and obviously will give their opinions when doing so. When someone is so thin skinned that they can;t accept an opposing opinon or criticim, they would be better served to stay off the board.

One last thought. BAQ, if I ever piss ya off, just send me an IM, never want to get "surgically ripped apart" hahahha

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BAQ says on Sep 16, 2005, 00:10:

I wonder if SUNSET every got his diagnostic codes Hay Sunset, you ever get your diagnostic codes?

Just curious.

Semper Fidelis !

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