Having a baby in Colombia

vicshere says on May 6, 2007, 16:06:

HEY Dave we just had a baby 1 1/2 years ago....we spoke to the doctor before hand and had it arranged that I would be present at the cesarean...but at the last minute we had an emergency and had to go to the hospital....of course we didn't have our regular doctor and the guy was a bit of a prick and didn't want anyone in his operating room...anyway I made some fast friends with the nurses and the head nurse told me to wait just outside and down the hall from the operating room...I could just see my wife feet....anyway about 2 -3 minutes after the baby was born the nurses semi wiped him off and they let me hold him for about 15 or so minutes.....so my advice is to speak to the doctor and arrange everything before hand...and hopefully no emergencies good luck

listo

listo

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 6, 2007, 16:11:

That's encouraging Thanks vicshere - sounds like there is hope after all.

What about staying in the hospital? My wife says it will be normal for her to spend the first night there, but that typically the husbands aren't invited. I can tell now that it will be hard to leave my wife and child for even one night, especially the first, since I'm only going to be around for a month or so. Did you stay with them after the birth or did you get sent home alone?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

vicshere says on May 6, 2007, 16:21:

sorry that's the other thing.....you are not allowed to stay in the hospital over night.....you are only allowed to visit your wife during the visiting hours which aren't very long...comparing with the US they are really backwards in the thinking of care giving....I actually had a fight with the security guard who sweeps the floor room by room....the only good thing is they send the mother home on the second day.

listo

listo

0 funny, 0 helpful.

lochdhu says on May 6, 2007, 16:22:

Thats Fast! Damm! David in Idaho, time is coming around fast for your baby!

If its a boy, I think you're supposed to hand out cociane, and it is's a girl you're supposed to hand out arepas. dunno, you'd have to check with the local experts.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 6, 2007, 20:02:

It's true lochdhu ... It wasn't long ago I was on this site asking for honeymoon suggestions. Now we're starting a family already. Things have changed very quickly for us!

Thanks again vicshere - I guess I could compromise on the night at the hospital if I were indeed allowed to be present for the birth. We'll see how it goes.

I know some more of you PHBers have had experience with this. Right?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Simon says on May 6, 2007, 20:14:

I really don't understand
I really don't understand why any guy would want to witness that. I for one don't have the stomach to see that, I'd probably faint.



"comparing with the US they are really backwards in the thinking of care giving"

Yeah Vic, and throwing your elderly parents away to wither and die at some old folks home is real 'care giving' , right?


"If its a boy, I think you're supposed to hand out cociane, and it is's a girl you're supposed to hand out arepas."

Hey Lochdhu, and if thay want it to be a retard like you, they hand away your mother!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

0 funny, 0 helpful.

lochdhu says on May 6, 2007, 20:43:

I will agree with Simon, *if* I ever pro create, the last thing I want to see is a my wife giving birth, because I'll never look at that part of the woman with the same respect. I've seen videos of other giving birth, and I just don't have ths stomach for it.

BTW Simon, you wife said to bring home some milk and bread.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 6, 2007, 21:11:

Call me weird but I want to be with my wife, holding her hand, giving her whatever encouragement I can. She's going to be in a room full of strangers, enduring the worst pain she's even known. I don't know - call me wierd, but it seems natural that a man should be with his woman to complete what they started together.

And as for losing respect - Wow lochdhu, what is it about the miracle of birth that you find disrespectful? You and Simon just sound squemish to me! You two can just wait in the lobby enjoying the cigars, or cocaine, or whatever.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Yellowstone says on May 6, 2007, 21:28:

In Barranquilla they dont use hot water in Hospitals There is no Clinic in Barranquilla,that has hot water.
That is why they call Colombia a 3rd world country,as
most of the country even in the hospitals do with out
any hot water.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

slguy says on May 6, 2007, 21:30:

I was in the room for the births of both of my sons. But I was of the Dave Barry school of childbirth - there was her face and her hand, that got all my attention. Down there didn't exist, until it was time for me to cut the chord! ;)
slguy

Now I don't have to tell you good folks what's been happening in our beloved little town. Sheriff murdered, crops burned, stores looted, people stampeded, and cattle raped. The time has come to act, and act fast. I'm leaving.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

0 funny, 0 helpful.

lochdhu says on May 6, 2007, 21:32:

David
I never said the David
I never said the miracle of birth was disrespectful, you know me a little David, I am not into seeing blood and guts, and I relaize no guts are involved in birth.

however I am very squemish at the very sight of blood, and with my background and seeing so many murders, slashings, stabbings and car accident victims, mangled bodies. one would think I would be de-sensitized to the very sight of blood. when in fact it is quite the opposite. maybe its all the shit I've seen in my life that has gotten to me. I even use to be a butcher and do full carcass break down for a couple years and seen some pretty gorey stuff. I'll spare you the detials.

maybe I've seen so much it's gotten to me. I don't know. wish I had a better answer, but thats the best I got for you buddy

I imagine I'll be the guy in the hallway probably drinking down some patron tequila.

watching the Miracle of birth is not something I want to witness. call me weird!

But you know me David, I would never diss you. and I wish you and Ruby all the best with the new arrival.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Man Tequila says on May 6, 2007, 21:40:

I've delivered maybe 200 babies. Not a particularly squeamish thing for me. I think its nice you want to support your partner.

1. Women usually underestimate the pain from childbirth. It's nice to be natural, but strongly consider anesthesia if available.

2. If things go wrong they can go wrong very quickly. This does not happen very often, though.

Fortunately I've been able to handle the few complications I've seen. It's still a miracle. But these things always seem to happen at three in the morning, which lessens the miracle after a hard working day. I'm happy to leave deliveries to the obstetricians.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Lisa Zee says on May 6, 2007, 22:07:

The miracle of birth! How can anybody miss out on that beautiful experience! My then husband was with me through the whole experience, the labor pains, the braking of the water, the birth, he was by my side form the back of my head, so you don`t have a bad view. If you love your woman, you will only think of her well being and your baby.
AND lochdhu DO NOT JOKE A ABOUT COCAINE!, THAT IS A VERY TASTLESS JOKE!!!

Feliz Navidad!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

miamimike says on May 6, 2007, 22:12:

I think all Males Should have to watch a live Childbirth at once same for young females( say 14 years old at the minimum for both sexes) After watching this, I think both sexes would come away with a new found respect for Life and Procreation. As it is now, many see childbirth as a simple uncomplicated 3-10 minute Sex act and out pops a Baby. Its NOT Pretty,,, Not that simple,,, If this live childbirth was manditory in school, I think in general you would see a decrease in Teen Pregnancy rates as after watching a Live childbirth and seeing the Blood, complications(umbelical cord sometimes tangled around the baby's neck as she/he exits the mother ect, it would add a newfound respect and hopefully make Teens think twice before 5 minutes of unprotected Sex. A teen at 14-15 yr doesn't have a clue,,,and the child suffers,,,

Avatar Legend: Bush "If any of you Reporters are wondering, it was a Size 10"

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Man Tequila says on May 6, 2007, 22:13:

You don't need hot water to deliver a baby. But I did not know some Colombian hospitals lacked it. I don't know why they always boil water in old movies -- antiseptic? So the midwives could get rid of the husbnand?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

miamimike says on May 6, 2007, 22:15:

Some Boil water for the same reason they think Peroxide or Alcohol Kill Bacteria, neither of which are Bacteriacidal,,,holdover from the Old Wive's Tail days,,,


Hot water(no old wive's tale) when brought to a Boil for a full minute, does in fact Kill Bacteria!

Fema : http://www.fema.gov/plan/prepare/watermanage.shtm

Avatar Legend: Bush "If any of you Reporters are wondering, it was a Size 10"

0 funny, 0 helpful.

lochdhu says on May 6, 2007, 22:16:

ah gesh....here we go. Ok, I admit I was out of line to make the coke joke, and I know all colombians get offended by it and hate this stereo type. my aplogies to you and all of colombia.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Cerealkiller says on May 7, 2007, 02:36:

Hmm I suppose it depends in which hospital/clinic you decide to have your baby. A friend of mine was able to see the baby being born and spend the night at the hospital with gf and baby at Clinica Country in Bogota....

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 05:56:

That sounds hopeful Well, we'll be going to the clinic near my wife's house, so I'll just hope they are reasonable and/or accept bribes from desperate gringo husbands.

Not having a car in Colombia, I'm imagining a frantic moment of hailing a taxi while the water breaks and the contractions begin. I sure hope this doesn't happen at three in the morning when taxis are scarce in her neighborhood! I suppose it's possible my first child will be born in the back of a cab. Or worse, on the street corner!

lochdhu, no worries bro. Of course I know you well enough to take all your joking with no offense. I just couldn't help teasing you back. It is the typical macho mentality. You know, Woman = Pussy. Machistas are threatened by anything (like birth) that alters this simplistic, primordial equation. For my part, I don't think that witnessing birth will diminish my attraction for any of her "parts." Of course, a couple of months of celibacy while she recovers ought to do wonders as well.

Thanks for your informative posts. Butter Man, it is great having a real doctor on this forum! In which country did you deliver those 200 babies?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Robert Jorge says on May 7, 2007, 05:58:

This may come across as being sarcastic, and I don't mean it that way, but what is the hot water for? Boiling water can't be used to douse the woman obviously. Do you need boiling water to wash off the table, or instruments? I figured a hospital sanitizer would be used for that (table) and an autoclave for the instruments. Does somebody make soup or wash the floor with it? Ok, that's sarcastic. But really, what is hot water needed for during birth?

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 06:02:

I've always wondered that too I like your soup idea. (Nasty!) But I think Man Tequila might be right: it was just a good way to keep the husband busy and out of the way. Maybe, after the water has boiled and then cooled somewhat it would be used to clean up the newborn and all the mess. I think this tradition is much older than our modern understanding of sterility and cleanliness.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

RoyM says on May 7, 2007, 06:07:

Very emotional experience..... I have been present in delivery for the four of my kids (US). There is no way to describe the emotional impact of this experience. I don't remember any "blood and guts" though I am sure it was a mess. When the new life peeks out, or the eye communications between Mom and Dad..... no way to describe it. I highly recommend all Dads take part in witnessing one of lifes greatest miracles!! Now, my Columbian Sweetheart is pregnant. Totally different mindset in Columbia re Dads in delivery. Don't know how this will go. Hope I get to be there for this one also!!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

elmodefoque says on May 7, 2007, 06:15:

David, you have no idea the incredible gift you’ve already given your child, which is to say, “I’m from barranquilla nojoda”
To this moment it has to be one of the proudest achievement for me , if I may call it that? though technically I was born in La Guajira but we all know that anything starting from Cartangen and heading all the way north is all Barranquilla.
If he’s a boy, and when he reaches puberty please get him a burrita, it is a right of passage for true barranquilleros, and a tambor too.

I'll get there, when I get there!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 06:17:

Where and When, RoyM? Congratulations! What part of Colombia? (Notice spelling, before a horde of sensitive PBHers jump on your case for the infamous ColUmbian blunder) Anyway, it is nice to see I'm not the only one who feels strongly about being present for the birth. Thanks for your input, and I hope you find an understanding Colombian doctor.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 06:21:

How about a horse? Elmo, YES, my daughter will be a true Currambera, like her mother. As for the burro, well, here in Idaho we prefer horses. I have two (one waiting for my wife) but will be adding to the herd as we add to our family. And as for the tambores, well, I actually have a small home business called High Mountain Drums. I make African style hand drums (ashikos and djembes) so upholding that tradition will be no problem. But as you (didn't) read in the OP, the baby is a girl. Any particular traditions there I should be aware of?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

elmodefoque says on May 7, 2007, 06:25:

david, she's gonna like drinking and dancing and of course currambero boys. Keep a close eye on her when she visits barranquilla.
Her beauty and dancing skills will be the talk of all idaho.
I forget, very smart too, maybe a little too damn smart.

I'll get there, when I get there!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

elmodefoque says on May 7, 2007, 06:28:

Curramberas are famous for having tongues like a whip, very difficult to win an argument with them.

I'll get there, when I get there!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 7, 2007, 06:46:

I've had two Colombian babies at a Colombian hospital, but since these babies are already quite grown-up I'm not offering my experience as the modern day standard for childbirth in Colombia.

For any anecdotal value I can tell that no daddies were present and my husband waited just outside pale and shaky, but I think it's up to the delivering obstetrician to allow or not the father into the delivery room.

Two things I can remeber still: I wanted an epidural at the birth of my daughter (had already been through one birthing, just 13 months earlier and the memory hadn't faded yet) but when I got to the hospital the doctor said it was too late, I got some gas instead and my daughter was born two hours later.

Both times the baby was brought right into my room and and the nurses were teaching me how to hold and care for my baby at the same time as they were performing their duties. Breastfeeding was discouraged because I was supposed to keep my lovely figure so that my hubby would't stray from my side. Anyway, breastfeeding was for the "indias" who could not afford to purchase Nestle products that were much superior to anything your own body could produce.

Both times I was sent home the next day.

End of the history lesson about childbirthing in Colombia.

Cheers,
Desi



"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 07:56:

I couldn't agree more Tinto When I lived in Korea I was shocked to learn that the doctors actually told mothers that bottles were healthier than breasts. What a hoax! Of course, the formula companies were behind it all, helping brainwash a whole generation and make millions in the process. Happily, my wife does not believe such crap. And without posting any pictures, I'll just say that our baby will be very well fed! By the way, a similar hoax is being perpetuated in China, where women are told that caesarian births are better than vaginal ones. Only peasants do it the "old way," while anyone "of class" goes under the knife. Perhaps the Chinese are like some of the macho posters on this site, believing that birth somehow ruins a vagina. Well, my ex-girlfriend was a mother, and well, ahem, ... I had no complaints in that department.

Desi, thanks for your historical perspective. Hopefully things have changed since "the dark ages."

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 08:00:

Elmo, somehow I married an exception My currambera is soft-spoken and admits that she isn't very good at salsa dancing. Of course, she has much better rhythm than most gringas, but compared to her peers, she has a lot to learn. In a way it is good for me, so I'm not too self-conscious when we dance - we're learning together. As for the whiplash tongue - so far I have yet to receive the wrath, but I have seen her discipline her younger sister. I think I'll do whatever it takes to avoid such a beating.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

miamimike says on May 7, 2007, 08:12:

Robert Jorge Boiling Water is Used to Kill Bacterial Spores Many Harmful Bacteria cannot survive extreme Hot temperatures but they can in fact survive Freezing temps. Thats why you need to be careful where those Ice Cubes come from in Colombia. The Giardia cyst that causes GI Distress can bekilled by Boiling water. Surgical instruments(like birthing instruments forceps, scapels ect) were(and still are sterilzed in many world countries)sterlized in this manner. Many small 3rd world clinics or Mid Wife deliveries do NOT have access to modern Autoclaves(gas or electric)used to sterlize these instruments so out comes the Large Kettle of Boiling water,,,


"Water Treatment
Treat all water of uncertain quality before using it for drinking, food washing or preparation, washing dishes, brushing teeth, or making ice. In addition to having a bad odor and taste, contaminated water can contain microorganisms (germs) that cause diseases such as dysentery, cholera, typhoid, and hepatitis.

There are many ways to treat water. None is perfect. Often the best solution is a combination of methods. Before treating, let any suspended particles settle to the bottom or strain them through coffee filters or layers of clean cloth.

Make sure you have the necessary materials in your disaster supplies kit for the chosen water treatment method.

There are three water treatment methods. They are as follows:

*****Boiling*******
Chlorination
Distillation
These instructions are for treating water of uncertain quality in an emergency situation, when no other reliable clean water source is available, or you have used all of your stored water.

Boiling
Boiling is the safest method of treating water. In a large pot or kettle, bring water to a rolling boil for 1 full minute, keeping in mind that some water will evaporate. Let the water cool before drinking.

Boiled water will taste better if you put oxygen back into it by pouring the water back and forth between two clean containers. This also will improve the taste of stored water."

Avatar Legend: Bush "If any of you Reporters are wondering, it was a Size 10"

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 7, 2007, 09:13:

It wasn't really that bad I remember especially the birth of my daughter being rather "cozy", just my trusted obstetrician, a couple of nurses and me, a small room, plenty of laughing gas, joking with the doctor.

The positive side was also that they roomed the baby with the mother from the start. No infant wards where parents could go and look at their babies behind a glass window. Also, it was rather down to earth and yet professional at the same time. The Kangaroo incubation method where a newborn baby born slightly short of its term is placed on mum's belly is also accredited to Colombian hospitals. My only negative experience was the lack of support for breast-feeding and getting the infant started on formula before I even had a chance to try to breast feed.

"new study concerning neonatal intensive care conducted in Brazil shows that the Kangaroo method of holding a newborn close has many benefits for both the baby and the mother.

The Kangaroo method was developed in Columbia in the 1970’s as an alternative to incubator care for premature and low birthrate babies, and other newborns in need of intensive care. The impetus was lack of sufficient funds and other resources needed to provide the traditional incubator method. The Kangaroo method involves the baby being carefully strapped to the mother’s chest 24 hours a day where the baby can experience skin- to- skin contact and warmth."

from:http://www.childbirthsolutions.com/articles/news/kangaroo.php

Cheers,
Desi






"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 7, 2007, 09:45:

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe



(from Uppsala Academic Hospital, Sweden)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 7, 2007, 09:50:

OK, I understand the warmth thing but does this mean the mother must sleep on her back?



I apologize in advance for the word choice, but a sow (a mommy pig with piglets) sometimes rolls over and crushes her babies. How does the Kangaroo Method prevent this from happening?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 7, 2007, 10:01:

New mums are light sleepers, tinto as compared to sows...I suspect. I don't have any first-hand knowledge how it's prevented, but I believe it's instinctive and besides, very uncomfortable to roll over with a life-living, breathing baby strapped on your chest, with your breasts full of milk and perhaps tender, your waistline is still that of a hippopotamus...pregnant mums don't sleep on their tummies and newly delivered is not that much of a difference.

Cheers,
Desi


"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 7, 2007, 10:05:

Thanks I suspect "sow" is a word I should stay away from should I ever become a parent. Hehe.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 10:40:

One happy baby! Desi, that picture on the right says it all. And shamelessly, I admit that I probably look a lot like that when I get to nuzzle up to them as well.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

vicshere says on May 7, 2007, 10:55:

all you wimps all you squirmless wimps shouldn't condemn something you know nothing about....I have had 3 children with 2 wives and seeing the magic of birth is miraculous.....sure I have seen it on TV many times...but that's like comparing watching a hockey game on TV in your living room to watching a hockey game front row center ice....you just cant compare the 2...and also be men for god sakes...no wonder this world going to pot...lately where men are women and women are men

listo

listo

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Man Tequila says on May 7, 2007, 11:06:

Alcohol and hydrogen peroxide are bactericidal. Most hospitals use autoclaves. That doesn't really explain why in old cowboy movies the husband is sent off to boil some water. Simple deliveries often usually require forceps or suction, instruments take a while to disinfect and this is usually done in advance (to avoid using hot instruments), hands can be washed with soap and cold water.

I still don't get it.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 7, 2007, 11:12:

David, one more proof that men are really just big babies...
The baby's expression is that of utmost bliss...

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

vicshere says on May 7, 2007, 11:20:

des sorry i dont understand

listo

listo

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 11:20:

No argument from me I completely understand! But I might call it udder bliss.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 7, 2007, 11:29:

vic, just read what david said about the picture of the baby sleeping on mum's breast...
Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

poco says on May 7, 2007, 11:33:

The same I don't believe much has changed so Desi's comments are all valid.

Formula is still the norm in my rural area. Maybe the cities are different.

This is a list of what NOT to say to your pregant wife:


That skinny little nurse has a really cute cell phone holder!

Isn't it ironic that a woman who hardly moves in bed can be carrying a baby that never stops moving?

I don't think you look any fatter than normal.

Your sister looks great; has she lost weight?

Sure you'll get your figure back -- we'll just search for it in 1998 where you left it.

Sure, the doctor said you're eating for two - but he didn't mean two cows.

How come you're so much fatter than other pregant women?

What's the big deal? If you can handle me going in, surely you can handle a baby coming out.

That's not a bun in the oven -- it's the whole bakery!

You know, now that you mention it, you are getting fat and unattractive.

This is just great! Now, on top of everything else, child support.

No, I don't know where the remote is! Have you looked under your breasts?

You think your belly's gettin' big? You should see your BUTT!

Will you look at that! You weigh more than I do.

Not to imply anything, but I don't think the kid weighs forty pounds.

I sure hope your thighs aren't gonna stay that flabby forever!

I'm jealous! Why can't men experience the joy of childbirth?

Are your ankles supposed to look like that?

Geez, you're awfully puffy looking today.

Maybe we should name the baby after one of the girls at the bar?

That rose tattoo on your hip is the size of Madagascar!

Tell the nurse to call me at the bar. With luck it will be happy hour and a round of drinks will be half price.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

0 funny, 0 helpful.

lochdhu says on May 7, 2007, 13:43:

Hey David in idaho,
your Hey David in idaho,
your welcome to borrow my video camera if you want to record the birth.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bufalo says on May 7, 2007, 15:02:

David, I guess you two were doing a little more than making out in that movie theater, huh?

Our daughter was born down here in Armenia. (sorry if I repeat, but I don't have time to read the 46 other posts).

1. Colombians aren't used to dad being around at all. Get used to being ignored and having nurses ask who the father is/will he respond, etc. while you stand there transparent as a pane to them.

2. ASK,ASK,ASK and then ASKagain! (thins goes for anything in colombia), the doctora let me in the room for the birth, but didn't tell anyone else, so every five minutes I had people telling me I was free to go. They were shocked that I wanted to stay (interestingly enough it turned out caserean, surprised she let me stay, saw my wife's innards and all - ovaries are white!)

3. Get used to the fact your the father, not the mother and noone here will think you are capable of ANYTHING at all. No, you couldn't possibly change a diaper, heat up a bottle, etc. I flipped out because the nurse whisked our daughter away for tests, after the tests, the nurese went into our room, put on baby's first clothes and then walked around the hospital for a bit - apparently I was too dumb to do something like that. After a "get your ass over here and give me my daughter", baby was in papa's arms (mom was still passed out unfortunately).

4. Hope you like your wife's family. They'll come and not go. My wife decided not to call them the first 3 days because she knew all 10 brothers and sister would show up with all their 3 kids each and not have enough sense to leave after a bit.

May not sound like it, but I loved it. Getting your daughters' passport in the embassy only takes a few hours (it did for us anyway) - wifey and you can get some shopping in. Oh-oh wait a sec, you'll have a newborn with you - sleep while you can!

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

0 funny, 0 helpful.

miamimike says on May 7, 2007, 15:56:

Man Tequilla Alcohol and Peroxide work by,,,, Alcohol is an Astrigent, a drying agent. It creates a dry enviroment so the bacteria simply simply die off as they can not survive long outside exposed in a dry enviroment. Peroxode boils bacteria out of a wound by its effervescent action but does not chemically have a compound that kills Bacteria.

Avatar Legend: Bush "If any of you Reporters are wondering, it was a Size 10"

0 funny, 0 helpful.

David in Idaho says on May 7, 2007, 16:28:

Good advice Bufalo - and Thanks lochdhu Well bufalo, you are right. However the baby was not conceived in the movie theater, but probably in our quaint and romantic little hotel on San Andrés, or maybe in the beach bungalo on Providencia. Anyway, I appreciate your humorous advice, and will take all that into account. It'll help to see this coming, so I can expect to be ignored. I'll wear a bright red shirt and wave a flag or something so they notice me.

lochdhu, I appreciate your offer, but I think I'll just watch and try to remember everything. I'm afraid if we have video footage and my wife sees it, we might not have any more children in the future. I'm hoping for more than one! But anyway, it was a nice offer.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Man Tequila says on May 7, 2007, 23:30:

Hydrogen peroxide is sporicidal, bacteriostatic and bacteriocidal. It is not used to clean wounds because it is cytotoxic, and because it is a weak bacteriocide at low temperatures and concentrations. It does have chemical bactericidal properties and is used by macrophages and white blood cells to kill bacteria at the cellular level.

Isopropyl alcohol is bactericidal as well. It is the main ingredient in most of the hand sanitizers used at hospitals.

I could quote journal studies, etc. discussing this, but why bother?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Man Tequila says on May 8, 2007, 00:02:

Still doesn't explain why they boiled water in western movies featuring childbirth. While I disagree with M-C about whether H2O2 and alcohols are bactericidal, it is certainly true hospitals don't use these things to sterilize instruments, that early studies overestimated their bactericidal properties and that doctors tend to irrigate wounds with water or saline since other things might kill beneficial bacteria or cause more harm to good cells than bad bacteria.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

0 funny, 0 helpful.