HAS ANYONE SEEN THE DOCUMETARY LA SIERRA

microllo says on Jul 10, 2007, 02:55:

you know what i seen the same documentary and i didn,t really understand if they were fighting over drugs or over tarritory to control .

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kalder says on Jul 10, 2007, 05:08:

The ELN is the second, smaller left-wing terrorist grouping in Colombia. There's a BBC profile of them:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1746914.stm

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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Miguel says on Jul 10, 2007, 08:33:

I thought it was a fight for territory. It sure as hell is worth watching.

"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain 1878-79

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Janneman says on Jul 10, 2007, 10:14:

For some reason there is never a straight answer about violence around Medellin.
My biggest question is if its still happening ? Cause its a pretty scary idea to share a town with people who are used to this kind of violence.

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fugdis says on Jul 10, 2007, 10:26:

Kids with guns.
A horrible image was the innocent old lady laying dead in the street after a night of them shooting into the darkness at anything that moved.

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kalder says on Jul 10, 2007, 10:36:

fugdis- How's life in Cali? Is it working out for you?

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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paisa29 says on Jul 10, 2007, 11:01:

Janneman... eso fue hace algunos años atras, Las comunas como la 13 y donde se encuentra situada la Sierra han experimentado una transformación muy grande gracias a la acción de el gobierno, otras entidades y la colaboración de otros paises, todavia existen algunos problemas pero son menores, se ha trabajado mayormente en mejorar la calidad de vida de las personas que habitan estos sectores con la creación de oportunidades de trabajo, nuevas bibliotecas, acceso a servicios de transporte como metro-cable, etc,
el modelo utilizado en las comunas de Medellín ha sido ejemplo y elogiado por muchos otros paises, ahora se les llama milagro social.

"Fill the earth with the light and warmth of hospitality" Conrad Hilton

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fugdis says on Jul 10, 2007, 11:02:

Yes thank you Kalder.
All going well,although frustrating at times,but making a living.
Hows London? still raining?

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kalder says on Jul 10, 2007, 13:43:

Bucketed down yesterday :)

I'm glad things are working out for you. You should write some posts about your experiences. 'Our Man in Cali' and all that. It'd be an interesting read.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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Monpirri says on Jul 10, 2007, 17:50:

I try to stay away from movies where the show Colombia in the very same negative scenario, but couple of weeks ago, my friends told me I needed to see it.
I borrowed La Sierra and I liked the documentary!
I was amazed how teenagers knew so much about firearms and how they worked together in a military fashion to build a zone of control in the community to guarantee protection against subversive groups in their barrio. Edison the commander was interesting young leader who was engulfed with so much responsibility in the ongoing war and responsibility with his large family.
I hope Jesus have found job training because he did not qualify for the grant. He looked like a fine young man who needed help to achieve an education or training in a career to help him to get back on his feet again. He has a wife and a son.
The documentary won several film awards and I believe the conflict happened over fifteen years ago? I not quite sure about the date.

Read more about it: http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/lasierra/qa.html

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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bufalo says on Jul 11, 2007, 05:45:

Can't say I liked it, just cashing in on a really shitty situation. Showing violence because it is a quick eye-grabber. FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD (so I'm not saying it is 100%), from a producer friend of mine here is that the guys who made it have trouble making other projects here in Colombia.
One of hte reasons I didn't like it is due to the audience. Down here, the only ones really talking it up, were people most likely to go that route - they loved the guns, bitches, etc. so that was a real turnoff.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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Monpirri says on Jul 15, 2007, 17:37:

I really liked the documentary and I'm against movies where violence is the only topic of discussion.
This is an animal of a different kind!!

** 2006 Award of Excellence, Society for Visual Anthropology
** 2006 United Nations Association Film Festival
** Best Documentary, 2004 IFP Market
** Grand Jury Award, 2005 Miami Film Festival
** Special Mention for Best Documentary, 2005 Slamdance Film Festival
** 2005 Hot Docs Film Festival
** 2005 Human Rights Watch Film Festival
** 2006 Latin American Studies Association Film Festival

http://www.frif.com/new2005/sier.html

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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msaucey says on Aug 2, 2007, 13:48:

I recently saw it, and as a documentary, I think it hit it right on the nail.... It's a documentary, no hiding the truth at the time they were taping... with additonal commentary of what happened after... Medellin, did have issues based on "Turf Wars".... I did like the portrayal of 3 different characters and their paths.... The blood scenes were gruesome, but they were real... Unfortunately, everyone sees the documentary years later... and will automatically come to the conclusion that, these events are taking place now, when they are not....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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goin_south says on Aug 5, 2007, 04:50:

The video dvd is a lil pricey at ... $298.00 usd.
How else might one obtain a copy for viewing?

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goin_south says on Aug 5, 2007, 13:09:

Wth is a barra? is that italian?

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goin_south says on Aug 5, 2007, 13:35:

Oh, good! Then send me some copies!

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msaucey says on Aug 6, 2007, 14:01:

GS, I'd say just rent it... I don't think I'd go to the extent of buying it... But, it's between $18-25 on amazon.com

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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NataliaV says on Aug 6, 2007, 14:27:

Netflix has it. Not sure about Blockbuster or any other rental place. I borrowed from netflix a few months back.

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goin_south says on Aug 6, 2007, 15:39:

Maybe I could watch it with 'One or Both of You Lovelies' :)
Muchas Gracias.

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