gringos, tenga cuidado!

bkelly says on Jan 5, 2006, 15:08:

Nicely said I also agree. I left for awhile because I grew tired of such negative comments. I am only one-quarter Colombian, but since I live here it does irritate me.

--bkelly

--bkelly

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toneloc24 says on Jan 5, 2006, 15:50:

I hope they stick around We need balance on this site. Esp. because some of our posters get on these "All Colombian women this...all Colombian that.." crap, which in real life is never true. But as they say, one bad apple....

Fucked-up experience. I just returned from Lima Peru this morning. We're in line in the Lima airport, waiting to clear immigration to come home. There's a grumpy older American in the line next to me who's apparently married a Peruvian lady. He's bitching because they won't let her accompany him all the way to the gate (yeah, I know)and translate for him. As if, they're supposed to. She's staying a bit longer in Peru. Then, he's like, "wait until "they" come to Florida with no English. I'll be handing out tickets to all of them, for anything I can think of." As if all Latinos deserve this treatment.

This is the mentality of some of my countrymen. Marry a foreign woman. Go to her country and never bother to try to learn the language. Even worse, want rules to be bent for them. Complete disrespect. I'll never understand it. And this dude works in Florida law enforcement.

I share that experience to say, there's an idiot in every bunch. Here on PBH, there are a few. Sometimes I'm one of them. LOL!!! Don't let them chase you away. There is much insight into Colombia to be learned from you ladies. I hope you continue to engage in respectful debates. When they turn ugly, get the moderators on the threads to stay on course on close it down.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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tomtom33 says on Jan 5, 2006, 16:32:

I'm not big on restrictions, whether they are imposed by moderators or group pressure. I am not Colombian nor am I a woman. But I love them both. The Colombians and women that I know can stand up for themselves. They don't have to whine about "bad" things being said. They can explain why they think that someone is out-of-bounds.

I don't expect any epiphanies from my time on this site. However, comments that can be shown wrong can also be instructive.

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dwmte says on Jan 5, 2006, 17:18:

it's not just courtesy to women... it's courtesy to each other, period. life is like the good ship lollipop and we're all on board together. the very least we can do is be nice to one another. we don't have to agree...in fact we rarely do. that's what makes it nice, cause we're all different. but we don't need to attack and belittle each other to share our opinions, what ever they are.

personally, i don't give a rat's behind what any of you or anyone believes, feels, wants, doesn't want, etc. i do care how you express those issues. like the poster above noted, act like you're talking to your mom, your dad, your sister, or the bosses' bosses' daughter. put simply, just show a measure of class and be nice to each other. i've found over my way-too-many years that it works every time. trust me, i, too, have been a klutz far too many times in my life, and it should go with out saying, that i really regret those failures of mine. being nice don't cost a thing...being rude, insulting, nasty, hateful, etc, does. it costs a lot, and we pay those dues throughout our lives. personally, now, i'd rather not pay the price.

all the best,

dw

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arthur brode says on Jan 5, 2006, 21:32:

toneloc that figures that this guy from florida.the as***le capitol of the world.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Jebediah says on Jan 5, 2006, 21:45:

A Generalisation on Yanks Im sure there are a hell of alot of nice american people out there, and i can say that ive met a few in my time, but those type of loud, obnoxious americans annoy the sh*t out of me. They think the world revolves around the good ol u s of a.

I love you big guy!

Adios
Dunk

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 5, 2006, 22:16:

Everybody thinks the world revolves around them. The only non-Spanish musicians my wife had ever heard of were the Beatles. Up until she moved here she lived in her own little Colombian world. I have to explain what things like WW1 and WW2 were about.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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platano says on Jan 5, 2006, 22:32:

UTC, I remember the first time in Cali (ca. 1993?) I mentioned Microsoft to one of those who lived in their "own little Colombian world", and then had to explain (in Spanish) who Bill Gates is, where Redmond is, what software is, etc.
plátano

plátano

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morphus says on Jan 5, 2006, 23:08:

Its been recently proven through statistics that men surf the internet more than women. The lack of women posting here would'nt be suprising then.

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kernow62 says on Jan 6, 2006, 04:38:

Each time I hear UTC make that comment about his wife I simply cannot believe she and my wife lived in the same country. There are very few British or American groups she hadn't listened to in Colombia, she knows far more about American screen idols than I do and she sure as hell learned about the World Wars, although I did have to tell her that it was the Americans (specifically John Wayne) and not the Allies who actually won the war. She had only seen the Hollywood version. She thought the war started after Pearl Harbor not many years earlier.

She also thought the world revolved around the US, not Colombia.

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quindioman says on Jan 6, 2006, 04:41:

kernow.. bloody good to "see" you back in this place.....you're one of the very few gringos that actually contributed something positive to this site as aopposed to warning other gringos of the Colombian gold digger.

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Albatross says on Jan 6, 2006, 05:15:

Yea... Right 1) How do we know if they are really women ?
2) How do we know if they are Colombian ?
3) Who cares if they are women or not. (This isn't a dating site)
4) Why SHOULD we act like we're talking to our mom or sister... we're NOT.
5) Anyone dumb enough to automatically believe or be "offended" by generalizations on a message board should go back to their TV.

P.S. Crazy Eagle, there are few posters on PBH who hurl personal insults as frequently as Colombiche... so what the hell are you talking about ?

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Colombiche says on Jan 6, 2006, 05:53:

LOL Albatross, nice to see you are fully recovered from your "knife point mugging" and back to attacking me.

Crazy Eagle, thanks for the kind words. I found that whole "speaking sweepings" thing very amusing. Funny things can happen when one translates literally.

If anyone here doesn't believe I'm Colombian or a woman, ask webmanco, he lives in Bogota, arranges the meetups (many of you have met him as well) and we happen to know each other personally.

OH! Colombianox can confirm too and Rubiazo might just have a clue ha ha ha.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Albatross says on Jan 6, 2006, 06:22:

. I don't know Webmanco, Colx or Rubiazo... In any case, refer to point # 3.

Nice try, (referring to my observation of your inveterate mud-slinging as a personal attack on you... another feeble attempt to make me look bad) I can see you're still playing the "feel sorry for me, I'm a victim" card... apparently some here are dumb enough to fall for it.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Colombiche says on Jan 6, 2006, 06:37:

Why would I need anyone to feel sorry for me? I have so many things going for me, I am the kind of person that gets herself wherever she wants to be.

In any event Albatross, people here know I am not the type to insult. I even waved a white flag at you on the thread about Colombia's educational system but of course, you never responded to that, you'd rather just keep trying to get people here to think badly of me. I don't even know what I ever did to you.

It's getting boring, just put a lid on it.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Albatross says on Jan 6, 2006, 08:11:

Like the Trojans Yea... like the Trojans waved a white flag.

Whatever... you are cordially invited to go away.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Albatross says on Jan 6, 2006, 08:18:

Clarification Actually, I agree that having alternate viewpoints here would be a good thing. I've been under the assumption that there were already a number of women posting, but other than Desi and one other, I don't always know who here is a woman. (or who is Black, Colombian, American ect.)

But I don't think that anyone should be coddled or that we should "watch what we say" as if we were in church or around children or something. I suppose we are all guests of Peter, but I don't think he meant PBH to be some sort of politically correct, opinion-free, "good ship lollipop".

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Colombiche says on Jan 6, 2006, 08:27:

Why should I go away? I have a right to be here at PBH if I want to.

Yo no voy para ningun lado, por lo menos no por ahora. Luego talvez si, cuando me case de esta vaina.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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tomtom33 says on Jan 6, 2006, 08:40:

I prefer that no one be driven from PBH. That is worse than moderator censorship.

I have seen Colombiche, G5, and Morphus being attacked. Here I wouldn't mind a little moderator action.

Besides, C, I have such a great mental picture of you sin dientes.

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Miguel says on Jan 6, 2006, 08:41:

¡Claro que sí,Colombiche! Nosotros necesitamos mas mujeres listos como tú.

Kernow, good to have you back and I hope both you and UC have introduced your wives to those corronchos better known as THE ROLLING STONES!

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Colombiche says on Jan 6, 2006, 10:00:

Thanks Guys Feels like I have all these big brothers ;)

Not bad for a toothless girl.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Crazy Eagle says on Jan 6, 2006, 10:02:

Politically Incorrect I used to LOVE that show, until Bill Mahr struck a raw nerve after 9-11 and lost his show :-(

So yeah, well put Tinto. Sometimes I read things here that are informative, insightful or funny, and they make up for those posts that make me wince (insults, name-calling, accusations, etc). Man, try to remember that other humans are reading your stuff!

And Colombiche, I have tried hard to stop "speaking sweepings on the Colombian women" and now I am working on not "discussing like keeping its pigs dolares." Hope I pull it off.

"Caught between the twisted stars the plotted lines the faulty map that brought Colombus to New York." Lou Reed

"The natural rhythm of life is routine punctuated by orgy" Aldous Huxley

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Miguel says on Jan 6, 2006, 10:03:

Eche Tinto Que "disclaimer".

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kernow62 says on Jan 6, 2006, 10:11:

Nice to be back Quindioman and Miguel. I will be checking in only sporadically (I can hear the applause). Unfortunately my mother suffered a major stroke just about a month ago (not her first)and I have dropped everything to take care of her, I may even have to quit work as we cannot afford to pay for in home care and a nursing home is not an option due to my personal abhorrence of said establishments. We'll soldier on one day at a time. Fortunately my dear Colombian wife is right here by side ready to assist every step of the way.

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Albatross says on Jan 6, 2006, 10:22:

Tinto... speaking of civility. I do have to ask why Seabass's "poop story" is still around... at least Elmo's graphic gross-outs are somewhat funny.

Kernow... that sucks beyond belief.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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kernow62 says on Jan 6, 2006, 10:25:

You can say that again Albatross.

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 6, 2006, 12:10:

Why did the thread about the good Colombian girls get locked? It veered off to a whole discussion about why Latinos in the US do not want to assimilate but I thought the whole thing was nonsense. The VAST majority of Latinos are Mexican and the vast majority of those live in California and Texas. Even Rocinante admitted that his remarks did not apply to Mexicans in those states but then every one went on talking about Latinos when they actually meant non-Mexican Latinos. For the millionth time, Mexican-Americans DO assimilate. I can't tell you how many Latinos here cannot speak Spanish. Hell, I have to help them with their Spanish. We eat the same Tex-Mex food and we all go to the same quinceneras and weddings and parties. I feel sorry for the rest of you in Miami or NYC or wherever the hell you live where different groups don't mix. We mix down here, we're all screwing each other and getting married and divorced and having kids who are a little bit of everything. We're just all gonna end up Texican. It's the future. In fact I read an article yesterday that said some people in Vermont wanted to secede from the US because they were afraid of what was happening down here with the Latinization of the southwest. Hell, screw 'em - thanks to Vince we're Number 1. Go Longhorns.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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dwmte says on Jan 8, 2006, 03:57:

yo, arthur brode.... just curious...how did flori-duh become the asshole capitol of the world? being unfortunately resident (exile) i, like kernow and hollywood, suffer her many problems, but i must admit, i think she's way above the poop chute. jeez, after way too many travels to way too many locals around the world, i can think of dozens of places much closer to the escape de mierda than flori-duh. i mean, we have disneyworld...

dw

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rocinante says on Jan 8, 2006, 05:20:

Tex-Mex UC - not to hijack but.... A good deal of Mexicans have been living on this side of the US border before the border was there. Once a family exists in a "different" country for a certain amount of time (more than one or two generations) they become more like the country than their country of origin. I think the Mex mindset and overal attitude towards their bordering country, the US, is un-comparable to the South Americans. Although they will both eat ChimiChangas and celebrate cinco de Mayo....

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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Crazy4Cali says on Jan 9, 2006, 16:54:

Now, if you annoy someone.... Now, if you annoy someone online, you're goin' to Jail!

Annoy someone on line and it's two years in jail!

I hope that doesn't annoy you.

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cam0940 says on Jan 9, 2006, 18:46:

If I hear another Longhorns comment I'm going to scream. Vince's knee was down in the 2nd quarter. No review. In the second to last drive of the game there was a catch and fumble, SC recovered. The officials f*cked up the review, even though everyone could clearly see the replay. SC was robbed scandalously. Texas' championship should be marred with an asterisk. They were given 13 points that they never should have had. Texas was solidly beaten, but got help, which makes the championship suspect, gay, and lame.

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toneloc24 says on Jan 9, 2006, 20:21:

I'll reserve comments for Bush But by the time 2008 rolls around, we can all wipe our asses with the US Constitution. It's apparently meaningless. Yet "we're spreading democracy....." LOL!!!

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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Albatross says on Jan 10, 2006, 05:43:

Another Asshole Law... The first time it's challenged (the first time it's used) it will be shot down.

Unfortunately, up until now, I had a shred of respect for Specter.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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tomtom33 says on Jan 10, 2006, 05:48:

Bush? I know nothing of the authorship of the bill, and I have not read it. However, if it hadn't been passed by Congress, Bush couldn't have signed it. This is hardly a case of Bush usurping the Constitution.

That is why we have courts. Legislatures at all levels pass all kinds of stupid laws. Sometimes those laws violate State or Federal Constitutions.

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rocinante says on Jan 10, 2006, 20:59:

The President of the United States has not run this country since the Industrial Revolution. Wake up folks. GWB cannot tie his own shoes. Do you really think he's calling the shots? Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeze! I'd say more but there'd be nuthin' for everyone to bitch about.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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Crazy4Cali says on Jan 11, 2006, 17:25:

I did a little more digging and... I did a little more digging and as near as I can tell, the writer of the article was taking the law and the amendment out of context for the sake of sensationalism, or so it would seem. The law, Title 47 of the United States Code, Part 1, Sec 223 entitled: "Obscene or harassing telephone calls in the District of Columbia or in interstate or foreign communications" (in effect since Jan 2002, by the way), states, in paragraph (a) (paraphrased)

Whoever...by means of a telecommunications device knowingly makes, creates, or solicits, and initiates the transmission of, any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image, or other communication which is obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, or indecent, with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass another person...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

So "annoy" is on the books, but it's been that way for the past four years. The author of the article might have thought to mention that.

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dwmte says on Jan 13, 2006, 20:34:

crazy????? you may be crazy, but you're damn sure not stupid. ditto that.

dw

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