Going To Pereira

ColombiaBoard says on Mar 29, 2005, 18:40:

What to do While in Pereira visit the Parque del Cafe, it´s a wonderful park where you can experience the "coffee world" and coffee production process along with wonderful scenery.
If you have time you can go to the Nevado del Ruiz park, experience snow in the tropics.

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william_andrew_channell says on Mar 31, 2005, 11:02:

Have fun with the Pereiranas. :)

One day two guys were walking down the street. In the conversation, somehow, Pereira got mentioned. One of the guys says to his friend, "you know they say that in Pereira, there are only soccer players and whores". The friend answers, "watch out, my mom is from Pereira". The first guy replies, "really? what team does she play for?"

They say that if Pereira had a roof, it would be the biggest whorehouse in the world.

In most places in Colombia, when you go in some place they tell you, "Siga y se sienta." In Pereira, "Siga y se acuesta."

I know that people talk a lot about Pereira, but they're just jokes. Maybe you could share some of them with people there, you know, just to break the ice and start a conversation.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Mar 31, 2005, 11:21:

watch out william_andrew Jokes about pereiranas (though commonplace in Colombia) are considered offensive and bad taste.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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ColombianoX says on Mar 31, 2005, 12:00:

Why is it that everytime some Why is it that every time someone opens a thread about Pereira, some jerk has to show up to insult the honor of the good women of Pereira?


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ColombianoX says on Mar 31, 2005, 12:17:

tibb,

Here's some pictures of Pereira:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=190531

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=192106


Have a good trip!


CX

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ColombianoX says on Mar 31, 2005, 13:34:

Tinto,

As Robert DeNiro would say, "Are you talking to me???" I don't recall saying such a thing.


CX

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Mar 31, 2005, 13:36:

No, Sr. I was teasing Desi She once wrote about some humorous (but not flattering) stereotypes for the people of Pasto. I think they had to do with talking very slowly and being perceived as dim-witted.

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CLALORENA says on Apr 1, 2005, 07:44:

Pereira Hi Tibb dont pay any attention on people who said those things about women from Pereira, is just rubbish. I am from Pereira and i am not deaft, what they mean with that is that we are fufas(tarts), but i think you find this any where in the world, we are not all the same is like here people say that English girls are very bad, you know they like getting drunk and sometimes going off with men, but no all of them are like that. In Pereira there are lost of shopping Centers that you can visit, and you con go to "Los Termales de Santa Rosa" it's amazing, there are like swimming pools with hot water coming from the mountains, they say is good for you, specially if you are stressed or suffer from bones pain, parque del Café is another good place and if you want to go on the dance, go to La Bade en Dosquebradas which is where you find all the good Clubs and the you can have a wonderful view from there, you can see all the city. Have a lovely time and enjoy yourself.

Lorenita

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 1, 2005, 09:48:

tinto, don't get me started! In Colombia everybody tells jokes about everybody else, about pastusos, pereiranas, rolos, paisas; everybody has a nickname for everybody else (some of them are not very flattering) but people don't take these things seriously. Sometimes I have to keep in mind that this is not really a Colombian board, so politically-not-so-correct jokes are off-limits unless your name happens to be Elmo.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 1, 2005, 10:17:

we only make jokes about the Norwegians....
Seriously, I wouldn't touch that hornet's nest again! (I can poke around it a little bit, though.)
Cheers,
Desi
(anybody here who'd get offended on the behalf of the good folks of Pasto?)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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litost says on Apr 1, 2005, 12:42:

Why do the responses always get so off track???

In Pereira... go to the zoo, go shopping in Pereira Plaza or the new Ciudad Victoria (make sure to go have a meal or a dessert in the Crepes and Waffles), go to the bars and cafes along the Avenida Circunvalar, go see good movies in the Camara de Comercio or in the Museo de Arte Moderno, walk around the bustling downtown, admire the Bolivar sculpture, go have a coffee in the afternoon in the pedestrian street "Paseo Simon Bolivar" behind the sculpture, spend a few days in a coffee farm in the surroundings, go driving on a Sunday towards Cerritos, go party in the discotecas around the Badea or the road going to Armenia, etc., etc.

Not to mention visiting other places in the region, like Santa Rosa de Cabal famous for its chorizos and thermal baths... and there´s Salento with its typical architecture and beautiful Valle del Cocora... and the city of Manizales less than 2 hours away with all its culture and the nearby Nevado del Ruiz...

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ColombianoX says on Apr 1, 2005, 12:56:

Litost,

Great summary of what Pereira offers. You left out crossing the Viaducto on foot where you can get a really nice view of Pereira, going for a nice ice cream sundae at the Lucerna, and going to the Matecaña zoo.

"or the road going to Armenia, etc., etc."

Ah, the memories.



"(anybody here who'd get offended on the behalf of the good folks of Pasto?)"

Yeah, me.


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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 1, 2005, 13:04:

ok ColX how about paisa jokes? or jokes about the rolos?
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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ColombianoX says on Apr 1, 2005, 13:08:

Ok, but only when I'm not in the room.

Saludes,

CX

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 1, 2005, 13:12:

you're a good kid, ColX but you have never lived in Colombia and it shows. I admire your pride and patriotism, but you need to relax a little. Colombians (the ones who live there) can joke about everything!
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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ColombianoX says on Apr 1, 2005, 13:19:

"but you have never lived in Colombia and it shows."


That's not true. I did live there, albeit briefly.


Saludes,

CX

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daver says on Apr 1, 2005, 13:38:

Joke A humble Paisa and Santa Claus were in a car, and it crashed. Who was driving?

It must have been Santa, as everyone knows there is no such thing as a humble Paisa!

(By their nature, jokes are not serious, so don't take them seriously)

Dave

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bufalo says on Apr 1, 2005, 13:47:

Hey, Colombians are always makingfun of people from other parts of their country as well as from other countries, what´s the big deal. I´ve been to Pereira, it´s a great place. Lucerna is good (one in Armenia too), arepas de chocolo are reallly good as well. I didn´t have a chance to see the termales (yet) and wanted to go to the zoo, although I heard it´s not really all that good. I didn´t much like Parque del Cafe, Panaca was better. Go to Valle de Cocora and the Nevados. As far as people from Periera are concerned, I´m sure they are just fine. Unfortunately I have the dumb luck of only knowing a really f***ed up family from there - dad, never working pot smoker - mom, seems really nice but pushed her daughter to do prostitution - daughter, 1 child at 14 yrs old (father was a thief, they killed him) she´s done some prostitution - son, hard worker until started dealing drugs, they beat him really bad and booted him out,now no job and also helped influence sister into being a prosti. I mean these people are really messed up and I know this sounds retarted, but I got along with them and they seemed nice at the time. I don`t judge all perierans by them (allthough the only other one I know had a baby by her friend´s husband, who was twice her age - they are still friends). have fun!!

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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william_andrew_channell says on Apr 1, 2005, 17:45:

Watch Out? Offensive and Bad Taste? As I've stated in other posts,
"Do you people even read the entire post?"
Allow me copy the last part of my post:

"I know that people talk a lot about Pereira, but they're just jokes. Maybe you could share some of them with people there, you know, just to break the ice and start a conversation."

They're just jokes.

And for Desi,
Have you changed your opinion so quickly? You posted recently (about jokes and humor like that):

"since I'm cool with it, also I'm so used to it that it doesn't ruffle my feathers any way"

"I just see it as typicallly Colombian, refreshing and harmless in intention."

"I have no problem with jokes of any kind of in general, except maybe the racist ones..."

Source: http://www.poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/8138

AND

"Pereira
Submitted by Desideria on Sat, 01/03/2004 - 16:44.
Pereira has the worst reputation of all Colombian cities for prostitution, dishonesty, drinking, partying yes....all of the above. Low-class and low-brow. Lousy climate too, rains every day, they call it the city of the broken sky. They make jokes about Pereiranas in all Colombia (like...the girls of Pereira are hard of hearing. You tell them to sit down and they go down on their backs...)"

Source: http://www.poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/2832

Hmmm...
Could you explain, Desi?

And for ColombianoX,

Just do us all a big favor and shut up. You have made some pretty bad comments about people too. Remember the "redneck" comments?(http://www.poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/6589)
So, let he who is without sin throw the first stone.

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ColombianoX says on Apr 1, 2005, 18:08:

"Just do us all a big favor and shut up. You have made some pretty bad comments about people too. Remember the "redneck" comments?(http://www.poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/6589)
So, let he who is without sin throw the first stone."



I stand by what I said, I don't like rednecks. Do you?


CX

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calipro says on Apr 1, 2005, 18:22:

william_andrew Never quote Dezi.

She doesn't like it.

And nobody wants to read her offensive posts TWICE!

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poco says on Apr 1, 2005, 19:04:

The elderly All is in jest:

A couple in their nineties are both having problems remembering things.
They decide to go to the doctor for a checkup. The doctor tells them that they're physically okay, but they might want to start writing things down to help them remember.
Later that night while watching TV, the old man gets up from his chair. His wife asks, "Where are you going?" "To the kitchen" he replies.

"Will you get me a bowl of ice cream?" "Sure." "Don't you think you should write it down so you can remember it?" she asks. "No, I can remember it." "Well, I'd like some strawberries on top, too. You'd better write it down because you know you 'll forget it." He says, "I can remember that! You want a bowl of ice cream with strawberries." "I'd also like whipped cream. I'm certain you'll forget that, so you'd better write it down!" she retorts. Irritated, he says, "I don't need to write it down, I can remember it! Leave me alone! Ice cream with strawberries and whipped cream - I got it, for goodness sake!" Then he grumbles into the kitchen.

After about 20 minutes the old man returns from the kitchen and hands his wife a plate of bacon and eggs. She stares at the plate for a moment and says - "Where's my toast?

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 1, 2005, 23:39:

Pereira jokes william_andrew, I actually laughed (in spite of my newly-discovered politically correct sense of humor) at your joke about the soccer players and whores. I haven't changed my opinion about joking. I wrote you an answer right then, and edited it two minutes afterwards, because I didn't want to start a war again. Pereira stereotypes are well-known in Colombia and if you read Caracol boards there's some pretty ugly stuff about pereiranas that pop up all the time. Then again, those messages may have been written by the same person.
No calipro, I don't like to be quoted on everything I say here. I post a lot and can be a bit spontaneous in my opinions. I also learn from my mistakes. Since that early Pereira thread I've learned that Pereira has improved a lot since my visit there, I've made my peace and and acquired pereirano friends, thus my opinion has changed. There's nothing strange about it; as I learn more my attitudes change too and the comment quoted above about the jokes, squalor, crime, drinking, lousy climate and prostitution shows a reality as I perceived at that time: it's only partially valid for me now.
The broken skies have not changed, it still rains in Pereira every day. The city has become cleaner, more modern and also safer than before. I've never had any grudge against pereiranos as I've found most of them be your typical small-town friendly, light-hearted, generous and fun-loving people.
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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william_andrew_channell says on Apr 2, 2005, 12:42:

ColombianoX,
I don't really think the point is if I like rednecks or not. I just don't appreciate being called a jerk by somebody who does not know me and can't appreciate a joke. Well, I guess you have to be a person who knows Colombia to understand the jokes, not just one more spic living in the states who feels like the official representative of the Colombianos viviendo en el exterior.

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ColombianoX says on Apr 2, 2005, 18:37:

"not just one more spic living in the states who feels like the official representative of the Colombianos viviendo en el exterior."


So now you're resorting to calling me racial slurs?


CX

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william_andrew_channell says on Apr 3, 2005, 09:11:

"I stand by what I said, I don't like rednecks. Do you?"

Well, you like to call people rednecks. So, what's the difference? You just don't like it so much when the slur refers to you, do you?

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william_andrew_channell says on Apr 5, 2005, 16:25:

I thought you wouldn't have a response to that one.

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BxUnika says on Apr 5, 2005, 18:33:

True So true. Ay, Ave Maria pues...My boyfriend is a rolo and his birthday was two weeks ago. His friends met in a hip Queens bar to celebrate and they were mostly rolos, two pereiranos, a paisa, and a caleno. The rolos made caleno and costeno jokes. In fact, the caleno was Black and he even kind of joked about that (they even call him "El Negro"). The paisa and caleno made rolo jokes. But you know what? Nobody cared. Nobody was bent out if shape and it was all in fun. It's no different than Brooklyn versus the Bronx jokes or LA vs. NY or whatever.

You should just laugh at the jokes because they are not to be taken seriously. If you can't laugh and you don't even live there, you're going to be crying when you get there if you stay so serious. I can't wait to go personally and I'll expect the American and Irish jokes (I am Irish-American). Me da igual!



Desi wrote: you're a good kid, ColX but you have never lived in Colombia and it shows. I admire your pride and patriotism, but you need to relax a little. Colombians (the ones who live there) can joke about everything!

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BxUnika says on Apr 5, 2005, 18:41:

Redneck Comment CX: "I stand by what I said, I don't like rednecks. Do you?"

You made a comment that there are more rednecks in Florida than in all of Colombia. Sweetheart, you are American or Colombian-American at best, remember that. I have never been to Colombia but I've met the cream of the crop here as well as real hicks or as you prefer, "rednnecks". Didn't you say your family is from Antioquia? And you are insulting Floridian rednecks? Funny, because I've met a hick or two from Antioquia. Don't be a hypocrite is what I'm saying.

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