Gee, ANY positive stories about Colombians staying home

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 1, 2007, 13:01:

to move where?

engage brain before opening mouth

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summer83 says on Oct 1, 2007, 13:17:

well my boyfriend came to the states in 2000. He got his degree and went back this pass july. He likes the states but he LOVES his country. When we first met all he talked about was his country and how the negative stereotypes about it are wrong. He admits that colombia has issues, but he has hope that things will get better. When we talk on the phone he tells me how much his city (bucaramanga) is growing and developing :). He could easy come to the states and stay forever, but he likes living there and I like it too.

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Gator says on Oct 1, 2007, 13:39:

Moe want to remain than you can imagine.

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

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Grateful Dead says on Oct 1, 2007, 14:36:

ok now I feel better, I gotta move there in a few months , I don't want to get off the plane and be greeted by a bunch of rebels and be like where are all the Colombians ? Oh they went up north they're mowing lawns up there .

lol

I knew this Colombian girl who married a guy up here in California , he had a little one bedroom apartment , she got a job at a coffe shop working in the kitchen, her life consisted of going to work and coming back to her apartment and watching T.V. Now she was not a Estrato 1 resident , she had family and lived in the Estrato 3 area , Now my question is why leave your family culture everything to come here and be totally isolated ? and the guy she married was a bum , he makes his money off sports gambling and looks like Captain Stu from The Love Boat.............. lol

I mean what the f#ck ?

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Bill Turley says on Oct 1, 2007, 14:45:

My wife went to the States on a vacation we met in Miami and got married. She missed her country so much we moved here together and I have been in Colombia for 10 years and neither of us have any intentions of moving anywhere

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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peterNC says on Oct 1, 2007, 14:46:

There's plenty of truth to the stories that you hear because "the word is out" to these men as well as others.... Older men hunting hot younger women...Younger attractive women looking for a way out of their present situations and a ticket to the states appears to be the "way out" for many... Thus many of both groups appear to flock to the same locations(both real and cyber) in order to meet each other. I brought my wife here this year and have 3 American friends that I know who recently did the same. We range in ages from 30 to 43. We have attractive, intelligent wives who enjoy living here but would LOVE to be back in Colombia with their husbands at their sides...The truth is, here in the US we have advantages but in Colombia, there are distinct advantages as this group well knows.... but the bottom line is that their are beautiful, decent women in Colombia who just want to be with the man they love...

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Grateful Dead says on Oct 1, 2007, 15:45:

Rubito I did see the Videos ,

1)The guy is all proud because now he is in New York and now he is a ballerina.Oh yeah, I get to be in New York and hop araound like a ferry. O que orgullo ser Colombiano.

2.) The ugly chick that wants to move to France to wash dishes.

3.) And then there is that other one from Cartagena that doesn't care if she is discriminated against as long as she can babysitt in Euorope, O que orgullo.

Now the people that I saw did NOT look like they were starving , I mean one was smoking cigarretes, You guys we outta be ashamed of fools like that.

lol

I mean What the f#ck ?

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saddlespur says on Oct 1, 2007, 15:59:

Funny topic. I never had met before my girlfriend and still have not met one Colombian that wants to "get out", this includes my girlfriend. She is just as proud of Colombia as I am of America.

To Get What You Never Had...You Must Do What You've Never Done.

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Grateful Dead says on Oct 1, 2007, 16:08:

Where do you live saddlespur ?

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lpdiver says on Oct 1, 2007, 16:12:

Most of the people who "wish to get out" in reality just desire economic opportunity. I mean lets face it how many of them can make 60 to 80 grand in Colombia. However, most of them don't realize how little they can get for 80 grand in the USA.

I know lots that would like to return home to Colombia but cannot.

t

"cook some rice!"

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la campiña says on Oct 1, 2007, 17:37:

YEA, in reality the majority, it's an insult to think most colombians want to leave. OK even if you have nothing here somehow most people have TVs and they watch novelas todos las dias todo el dia, ............... No sorry I can't back up this statement because its to complicated, I've met people who get up when the sun rises and got to bed at sun down, no luces only water from a mill , ............ this subject is to seriuos and I am to tired to continue, but I will continue,

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Grateful Dead says on Oct 1, 2007, 17:54:

Alot of people need help,

but most of the ones that I have seen just come here to leach. Gold diggers in search of fame , then they go back to their familias in Colombia and say

"Oh yo soy Americana "

lmao

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bufalo says on Oct 1, 2007, 18:11:

a lot wouldn't go if the economic situation was better. We have ot go so my wife can get her US citizenship, and due to the economic situation. If not for those, we wouldn't go back (acutally we'd go other places like Argentina or Barcelona, I am kind of bored here. Then again, if the economic sit was better, it would make me feel better.)

Another reason is culture, here there's a lot of it, but of very few cultures (and they are all similar). In other parts, like NYC or Barcelona, there's many different cultures and better education.

But if I really had to decide between the United Sterile States and Colombia, I'd stay here in Colombia.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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bufalo says on Oct 1, 2007, 18:13:

Some people criticize colombians for leaving and being proud of finally getting a car or something that might seem ridiculous for gringos. But put yourself in their world (try that for one), your opinion might change.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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john_stark says on Oct 1, 2007, 20:59:

None of them want to be in the land of retarded gringos but a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do. Usually they blast out of there once they get the green card and the Bens. I mean let's face it, if you were living in the US and you had other options, wouldn't you want to get the hell out? I mean how much dick can you suck?

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Robert Jorge says on Oct 1, 2007, 21:41:

Classy as usual UC.

Mrs. RJ wasn't dying or excited to go to the US either. She just knew that was our only option - for the time being - to be together. We both want to go back to Colombia eventually. I am not sure who wants to more - her or me. With the right economic conditions, we will liquidate and head for the pais de leche y miel.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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john_stark says on Oct 1, 2007, 21:44:

Thanks, dude! I was wearing a tuxedo when I made that post.

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Man Tequila says on Oct 1, 2007, 22:02:

I have talked to many Colombians, in Colombia. I'd say about 2/3 of the young folks I talked to do want to stay in Colombia.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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christobeldawg says on Oct 1, 2007, 22:08:

I would geuss that two thirds of the educated young people wanted to leave 10 years ago. From the little sampling I observed now, I would say it is more like one in 5.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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imdarkangel says on Oct 1, 2007, 22:15:

my family moved with me in Miami but its was not easy adapting to the U.S way of life.
they moved back to bucaramanga poor but happy.
so it just depends on the person lifestyle
i prefer the states

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christobeldawg says on Oct 1, 2007, 22:20:

good point, just depends on what one prefers. I am just talking about how things seemed so dangerous in Colombia 10-15 years ago, and many wanted to bail out, but I think that is not the situation any more, fortunately, and people can choose to live where they most like to live. I know, many don't have a choice, so nobody blast me on that.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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john_stark says on Oct 1, 2007, 22:20:

You traitor. I bet you're not a real Colombian. If you were you would have left like them and gone back home. What a disgrace to your poor family! Sure the gringos have money but you know they're scum.

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pedro says on Oct 1, 2007, 22:30:

Rubi -- "I know the average foaming-at-the-mouth gringo who is also a Senior Member on ISG has the image of Medellin as being mecca because of the pussy, but IMO Colombians have a very different take on things :P"

To say that the Colombians you met in Bogota prefer Bogota is not exactly a revelation that would shock any of us.

que nota!

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pedro says on Oct 2, 2007, 00:36:

Aha, gotcha. Yes, I will try and take a look at the Migration Project stuff, since you recommend it so highly.

I liked that mental picture of UC and the half-tux. And there would probably be a mistreated and abused RealDoll™ lying on the floor, plus a puncture repair kit on hand.

que nota!

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paisa29 says on Oct 2, 2007, 05:45:

I´m very proud of being a Colombian.
By far I´ve visited 13 countries and as Rubito said it has made me to appreciatte my Country more... the people,weather,food,landscapes,etc.

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morphus says on Oct 2, 2007, 14:57:

Paisa29, have you been to the U.S.?

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capitan_centella says on Oct 2, 2007, 21:54:

Hum. . . the states are nice to buying stuff.

But, raising kids, have a family. . . any kind of weather just ONE HOUR DRIVING, nice people, some of the best high schools are right here in colombia. People from here are "despierta" (I´m not sure how to translate that. . maybe . . .wise? or witty?). Talk in one of the most difficult languages to learn (spanish). . .

And going dinner plus movies (good movies, not hollywood hollow movies) plus a few bruskies. . . only for 15 dollars (30.000 pesos). . .

priceles¡

:P

And I'm being really proud of been colombian, and on top of that, I´m more proud of been a TRUE BOGOTANIAN . . . or "cachaco" or "rolo". . . .some nicknames adressed to people born in bogotá.

Y que viva el millonarios carajo¡.

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

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Man Tequila says on Oct 2, 2007, 22:00:

Is that 15 dollars American or 15 dollars Canadian? I guess it doesn't matter much. ;P

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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RussianFred says on Oct 2, 2007, 22:01:

Well my grandfather at age 89 fell in love with a 19 year old colombian women. Needless to say she broke his heart and he died a year later.

Annual Drug Deaths: Tobacco: 395,000, Alcohol: 125,000, 'Legal' Drugs: 38,000, Illegal Drug Overdoses: 5,200, Marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?--Ralph Nader

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capitan_centella says on Oct 2, 2007, 22:25:

hum. . .

us dollars.

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"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

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goin_south says on Oct 2, 2007, 23:17:

since it doesn't matter much; it's 15 canadien

Colombia es

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lpdiver says on Oct 3, 2007, 01:12:

I think his point is the exchange rate..One dollar Canadian is equal to 1.00293 dollars US currently. Kind of like people fretting over the dollar dropping from 2053 pesos to 2011 pesos. Unless you are buying real estate...does it really matter?

t

"cook some rice!"

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paisa29 says on Oct 3, 2007, 05:49:

no morphus, nunca he ido por allá.

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Chelesupercono says on Oct 3, 2007, 06:28:

I think over the last 5 to 7 years many Colombians have a more positive attitude about their country despite all the problems. I don't really meet many that are desperate to leave like it was in the 80s and 90s. I am not exactly sure what are the reasons for this change but I do believe that the word is getting back that life in the BIG SHOPPING MALL in the north is not all that it's cracked up to be....and it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better......and we won't even talk about a society that is far more concerned about Britney Spears and O.J. Simpson......then not having a job......sad

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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bufalo says on Oct 4, 2007, 20:33:

What? Spanish is one of the most difficult languages to learn? Got to be kidding, it's simple (relatively speaking). The 30.000 pesos for those activities are cheap if your money comes from outside, but try working here, then it is expensive as the pay sucks.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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