G5 SCARE Mongering Again

Mr. Hollywood says on Oct 31, 2006, 12:01:

I don't see your point G5, I don't see your point. Lots of fucked up things happen in nice places. Mexico is currently undergoing a rash of violence and kidnapping yet thousands of Americans still retire there. Rio has terrible crime and they shoot street kids but it's still a big tourist destination. So why is the displacement problem an automatic disqualifier for someone who wants to retire in Colombia?

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Simon says on Oct 31, 2006, 12:08:

G5
If someone wants to G5

If someone wants to retire in Colombia, I don't see why that is any of your fucking business!

Live and let live!

"Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Oct 31, 2006, 12:18:

I think GomezMan likes the self-appointed title of "He who speaks the truth about Colombia."



The rest of us get lumped together as having no access to news, non-anonymous (chatboard) advice or the ability to weigh information and think for ourselves.

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juancegomez says on Oct 31, 2006, 12:59:

G5 You have a point about displacement and the humanitarian tragedies that it brings with it, despite whatever some of us may think about your way of making the point and its relevance to retirement issues.

But even the article doesn't paint a totally apocalyptic picture:

"Although most Colombians believe the security situation has markedly improved (fewer kidnappings, less criminal activity, safer roads ) for the people living in the areas fought over by the various armed groups, the violence has increased. As the various forces fight to control areas and populations, the people suffer."

In other words, while the situation may have (overall) improved for the majority of Colombians (~70% of which live in the cities, generally non-conflict areas, despite the prevalence of common crime), it hasn't improved for everybody (including those that live outside the cities, the ~30% who live in the rural areas). That's a reasonable assessment, I'd say.

Clearly, there's a humanitarian disaster that needs to be addressed, the article painfully and urgently makes the case, but the country is not defined by it and nothing else. Horrible realities can co-exist next to acceptable ones, and neither cancels the other.

As for retiring in Colombia, it's obviously more risky than retiring in the States, evidently, but it's a total exaggeration to believe that only "warped minds" are going to do so.

And hey, some of those "warped minds" may even have a decent retirement experience, if they do their homework and are moderately lucky, even if others may not. There are too many variables to predict what will happen to each person.

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famsearch says on Oct 31, 2006, 13:01:

sounds like ol gome is our high priest of colombia... and just like in the days of old, his word is final, and anything else is blasphemy or heresy... lol
dan

dan

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 31, 2006, 13:15:

A few short responses Hollywood:
Your response was not toooooo, for lack of a better word-responsive.
And my response to you is:

I never said that I would live in Mexico either. I will say that your did not address the point of the article. The article states that about 3 million Colombians have deemed that Country is not a safe place to live. In the case of Mexico, with the exception of drug king pins, I have rarely encountered a Mexican that has had to flee Mexico for fear of his safely. Oh sure there is a journalist here and there. Remember, population wise,just about all of Colombia fits into Mexico's back pocket. And as to the rash of violence....well you said it yourself. "Rash" mean accute, not chronic. It's not ongoing. And if I may add it is limited to one section, and not geographically widespread. So that is a bad comparison.

If you are trying to compare Colombia's ONGOING civil war to Mexico's localized and periodic unrest, your being silly.

Simon:
It's comments like yours that make me all the more comfortable with my decison to participate in other forums where people like you, along with your comments, would have been zapped into cyber space a long time ago. The irony of it all is that a moderator postd right after you. He clearly saw your post, and did nothing.

Tinto:
Yea....something to that affect. But that is an exageration. I can find much good in Colombia, but the 150 or so self proclaimed regulars (mostly non Colombians like yourself) that distort things so much, that it takes one guy, (maybe a few more but withold comment because of the like of Simon) to try an bring some objectivity here. That is the way I see it.

BTW, I guess your losing some of your moderating skills after all this time. So here is something for you to scrutinize:

"G5

If someone wants to retire in Colombia, I don't see why that is any of your fucking business!"

Did you miss that one Tinto?

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Colombiche says on Oct 31, 2006, 15:07:

G5 You and Elmo, you guys love to write threads with your names in the title: "G5 goes to the corner store", "Elmo goes metrosexual"... etc etc.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 31, 2006, 16:17:

Gee Colombiche and others........ The easy one first.
Colombiche
Comparing me to Elmo is a high complement. I admire his how contrite he is. I can think of nobody on this site that is as entertaing as he is. Thanks

Tinto, congrads on your retirement. A gold watch is worth something when you consider how the price of gold has been increasing. The thought counts too. But as to your assertion that he used the word but did not directly refer to me stuff......that's sounding lawyer like. I cannot tell you how long I have been hearing that story. On the Parrot web site I participate in, just typing such words in a post, would land you an email from the moderator very quickly. They have a zero tolerance policy for profanity. It seems to work well. People know not to do it. Now, in all fairness, there is not a hell of a lot debating on politics and related on parrot web sites. It's more like: "My Tico does not want to take a bath, what should I do." Or "What fruits are the best for your conure to eat." Or, "Once they start to molt, how long will it last?" Even the controvery that I can generate doesn't send people into hurling every 4 word at me they can think of.

In any event....so now it appears there is no moderation. Great, bring it on Simon. Or maybe we just found a revised version of the nursery rhyme commonly knows as Simple Simon, a nursery rhyme about a modern day simpleton. Ja Ja.


Lastly Juancgomez
Simply stated: Well put. There is some merit to what you say and to your interpretation of the article. There is a silver lining. I was merely addressing the article for what it says on the surface. You know something Juance? I used to have many intelligent debates with people here. But when the goons and attack squads came out of the wood work for the sole purpose of attacking me, punishing me just for taking an "anti Colombia position", I just became all hardered, and far less open minded. Those that were neutral just sat back and stayed out of the fray for fear of being victiminzed as well. Honestly, this site has hardly anyone, perhaps myself included that is capable of being objective. The people hear that call themselves objective, are of the same caliber of journalists that work at Fox Cable News that call themselves "Fair and Balanced". (That's OK, I like FNC and they also like Uribe)What can I say?

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billyb says on Oct 31, 2006, 18:33:

At least they're not... rolling heads (without torsos) onto dance floors in Colombian discos. And where is the former head (no pun intended) of Mexico's anti-kidnapping squad? Oh yeah, he's in prison for heading a kidnapping ring. Have you been Nuevo Laredo or Ciudad Jauarez lately? Probably not, since you are still alive.

BillyB

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Colombiche says on Oct 31, 2006, 19:03:

The easy one first... I never really said you and Elmo are the same. Elmo, tells the same story over and over, yet, manages to make sound like he is telling a new story all the time. You on the other hand....

I was just kidding of course.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 31, 2006, 19:32:

Of course I've heard of Aussie Greg and the Medellin Mansion. I am a regular reader of the World Sex Guide forum (which incidentally has a lot more credibility than PBSH). I would have to agree that the future looks bright for anyone wanting to open a sex tourist type of business in Colombia. Personally I wish the FARC would kidnap every gringo down there.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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webmanco says on Oct 31, 2006, 20:35:

Que viva Pasto carajo! It is say that the capitals of each country could probabily resemble the country itself.

Surely G5 missed this article "Colombia city makes a U-turn" because he is interested in bad mouthing Colombia. By the way I do live in Colombia

Maybe PBH should adopt a parrot as the site's mascot, so we will be honored more with G5 insights.



Qué viva Pasto carajo!!

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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goin_south says on Oct 31, 2006, 21:36:

Para El Master of Mis-Construsion: Hola, GoMEXman5.
I pity the poor parrot.

"No hay tal cosa, como ' español perfecto '."

Where do we go from here?

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 31, 2006, 22:16:

I see I have not lost my touch..... Not only did I author the longest thread in the history of PBH. (I keep checking, nobody has beaten me yet),but I still have the ability to draw a crowd, with no problem.

Bottom line: When the G5 writes, many people respond. How do I do it?

And webmanco, if you guys would just click on my profile, you get to see my little boy. If you want to adopt my parrot as the site's mascot, I would be honored. Who knows, it might even cause me to chill my rhetoric.

Ringodiego........you should only live as well as my parrot does. He is spoiled.......big time. The guy has toys that I have bought, he has not even seen yet. That combined with my cooking and baking for him......Hmmm you would be hard pressed to find a bird that has been treated with such royalty.

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goin_south says on Oct 31, 2006, 23:27:

Larry Bird

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2006, 00:09:

Big Bird

Where do we go from here?

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billyb says on Nov 1, 2006, 06:45:

G5, maybe you should spend a little,,, less time with your parrot and get some human friends, it might help with your delusional issues.

BillyB

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elmodefoque says on Nov 1, 2006, 07:37:

I prefer to stay away from social issues but I’ll make an exception in this case. I have to agree with SOME of G5’s comments regarding Colombian security.
In upscale neighborhoods in Colombia’s biggest cities as Bogotá and Barranquilla for example, security is really no issue; you’ll be as safe as you would be walking any big city in USA. Now, if you’re involved in funny business, then trouble will come to you and it don’t matter if you’re living in estrato 15, they’ll come and haul your ass outta there and blow your head right off.
I spend most of the time in poor neighborhoods with very poor people. The shit I hear and see is no friggin joke, poverty could turn anyone into a mean heartless modefoque. I sat there and listened to criminals talk about stealing taxis having shoot out with cops and this included female criminals too. To be sitting around Colombian criminals (they) snorting perico and drinking Ron caldas and hear their stories could be quite frightening. “Nojoda cuadro le puse el cañon en la cabeza a ese hijuepta y se meo y cago el marica ese, rogando y llorado por su vida pero no lo corone, solo le rompi el coco con la pistola” We all laughed, I laughed too, but a nervous laugh, get me outta here type laugh. It reminded me of a scene from “goodfellas” but these guys are even more desperate and could not give a shit about los aguacates (cops). Keep in mind, these guys are doing this shit to their own people.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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elmodefoque says on Nov 1, 2006, 07:40:

let's talk about hookers
let's talk about hookers

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Nov 1, 2006, 07:54:

Maybe they just need a big hug (and a little trophy for ALL of them because everyone is valued and everyone is a winner).



;-)

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Sr Tertius says on Nov 1, 2006, 08:37:

G5 "Not only did I author the longest thread in the history of PBH. (I keep checking, nobody has beaten me yet),but I still have the ability to draw a crowd, with no problem."

I don't know if you are Colombian, but you definitely have a self-esteem problem.

P.S. Thanks for the stats and quotes... you know, the ones Rubito and I are still waiting for...

"Friendly talkzone" my ass.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Colombiche says on Nov 1, 2006, 09:30:

Colombians have some self Colombians have some self esteem issues

What are you referring to... some sort of collective national self-esteem? Or are you stating that every single colombian walking the earth has an issue with their self esteem? Are you a reincarnation of Sigmund Freud... or Carl Jung?

This is precisely what I was referring to when I say people on this thread tend to make blanket statements about colombians. It seems like some dimwits have a hard time grasping the concept that colombians come in all shape and sizes and are a very mixed bag of characters.

De donde sale esta gente tan "apelotardada"?. G5, please ask your parrot to sign up to PBH, I might end up hearing more coherent comments from "PIC" (Parrot in Chicago) or DonLoro than from many people here... even "lorita quiere cacao... no porque esta pegao" will seem like an intellectual discussion at this point.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Nov 1, 2006, 11:41:

What is the name of your parrot? .

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Colombiche says on Nov 1, 2006, 11:52:

El experto sobre todo lo colombiano no sabe escribir un parrafo en español. Pesandolo bien, no sabe ni escribir bien en su propio idioma. PPP.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 1, 2006, 12:17:

I don't know but would be nice for a change that Elmo and G5 swap places and change their never ending stories, what about G5 talk about hookers and drug and how colombianas don't want to see him, and Elmo about how dangerous Colombia is and how we are all belong to the GO GO TEAM eating magic mushrooms

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 1, 2006, 18:18:

Stats, hookers, security and related Stats
If you are equating the "silly stuff" with statistics, I'm not going to research this site and address the utterly rediculous assertions the gringo Colombian know it all say all the time.

Now let me understand this......oh boy this is comical. A man who refers to himself as "Sr. Tertius" is telling someone else they have self esteem problems. I might have bought into that but for the fact gives you no right to address the issue of self esteem when you consider who you refer to yourself as. But, facts are fact. 8 pagess, and more posts than any other thread that I remember. I'll say it again Mr. Real Self Esteem problem, 8 pages. I can remind people of the truth. If you want to call that a self esteem problem, than so be it. But, look who is call the kettle black?

DonGringo makes an interesting point. He says: That the longer he lives in Colombia, the more security is less of a concern. So......what does that mean? It just means you feel more comfortable there and nothing more. It is not in any way shape or form, a statement as to how dangerous or safe the country is. Furthermore, it is human nature to get comfortable with any situation just by virtue of the passage of time. I take it to another level,,,,,equally applicable, but from a statistical perspective, as unimportant as your statement. A person can close his eyes and walk accross a street without getting hit by a car. He can do it again and again, each time telling himself that I'm not really worried because look how long and how many times I have walked across the street with my eys closed without getting struck. So.....question: Does it really make crossing across the street with your eyes closed any less dangerous?...Of course not. It means nothing more than saying you are living in Colombia, nothing has happened to me so far, so everything cannot be all that bad.....Got it? Gosh,,,,it's amazing what I read here.

And Elmo......I knew you were one of the brighter ones here. I'll make a deal with you. When you come to BOG, I'll take you to my friend's whiskeria, and when I go to BAQ, you can be more tour guide at some of your favorite......(what are they called there?) tabernas?

And Kat1, Elmo is who he is, and I am who I am. We don't need to swich roles. We represent the points of view that we know best

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Simon says on Nov 1, 2006, 20:23:

"When you come to BOG, I'll take you to my friend's whiskeria"


I bet that if your "colombian friends" knew about how you always badmouth Colombia, they wouldn't be your friends for much longer!

"Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr.

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2006, 21:34:

Necesito...Kat1 "GO GO TEAM eating magic mushrooms" Am I on the team? If so, I haven't received my mushrooms yet.
Yo busco! Enviar por favor.

"No hay tal cosa, como ' español perfecto '."

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2006, 22:22:

Imagino eso: el loro es también un curioso llameante.

"No hay tal cosa, como ' español perfecto '."

Where do we go from here?

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 2, 2006, 06:50:

Rubito Gringodiego Rubito,
I cannot even figure out exactly what statistics your looking for. As if it it's important anyway for that matter

Ringo.....I can't figure our if you are on or off the team. At times it seems as if you are, but not to sing the team song, but rather for the fun of sticking it to G5.

BTW, does anyone know what happened to Gringoinbogota (GIB). Did you guys all run him off of here too......? Or did he finally meet his match?

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webmanco says on Nov 2, 2006, 07:01:

I wonder also GIB + DonGringo = GomezMan5

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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billyb says on Nov 2, 2006, 07:03:

I think GIB has been posting... under a different handle, can't remember what it is.

BillyB

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 2, 2006, 09:14:

GIB Joined the GO GO Team and the magic mushrooms

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goin_south says on Nov 2, 2006, 22:23:

Kat1 forego my mushroom shipment; send my portion to Chi-Town por "El Loro". (I would enjoy being the Judge, if that guy is a trial lawyer; don't think he could graciously argue his way out of a wet paper bag)

My (Latina) Attorney always told me this was her motto, and advice to clients: "Always Be humble; be gracious; and tell the truth".

Good Advice.

Where do we go from here?

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Lostgringo says on Nov 3, 2006, 04:01:

G5 While I seldom agree with Rubito, I think he has called your bluff G5.

I remember last year on my first trip to Bogota. On my second day here you sent me a personal email stating that I should first, get on the next plane out because it was too dangerous. Second, you said that Colombianas are readily available in Miami and with less hassles and danger.

Well, I am very happy that I did not take your advice. Also, I would question the notion that colombianas in the US are similar to those here in Colombia. I know there is the exception to the rule. There are a number of posters here who comment that their Colombianas are doing just fine in the US. While others claim that many Colombianas lose something when they leave Colombia.

Anyway, I am happy that I did not take your "advice."

One last thing regarding your insights into Colombia. How often do you visit here? Anyone can cut and paste!

Your Home Away from Home www.welovebogota.com and www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartments and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy! 24/7 hour security.

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aztec says on Nov 3, 2006, 04:44:

Rubito, don't want... ...to get between you guys. Just want to share another angle to the kidnapping scenario. The pros don't actually need to go to the trouble of kidnapping the person. Our experience with the ELN is that someone in the leadership simply gives you a call. They very quietly and calmly tell you what they need/want. Then they proceed to let you know they know every thing about you and your family. Where you work, your schedule, the children's school and their schedule. Even have information on your parents and their schedules.

If you can imagine a conversation with Don Corleone of the God Father you will have a feeling of how it goes.

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aztec says on Nov 3, 2006, 10:19:

"That's not kidnapping though" Family refused the extortion and their child was almost kidnapped and killed. The family is now in the US on a Temporary Protected Status (TPS).

Left a medical practice, country club membership, private schools,two auto's, three maids and now have nothing. But their lives of course. They were however, able to move some savings to the US. Still trying to sell apartments in Cali.

Colombia's loss and USA gain. Up for review the next few months for extended stay.

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goin_south says on Nov 3, 2006, 10:39:

Rubito, I hope you're not ever faced with the situation. if so, then I hope I have not come back reincarnated as one of your kids. I believe you wouldn't give them the money, but also believe you wouldn't shoot your own kid.

Where do we go from here?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 3, 2006, 10:39:

don't said that Rubito until you are in one of those people shoes, if my son was kidnapped I would pay my last penny to bring him home.


My family suffered what was a kidnapping and they do not wish it to anybody

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 3, 2006, 11:55:

Ok, Rambito.
Ok, Rambito.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Nov 3, 2006, 12:29:

If I had a Rocket Launcher What I love about Rubito is his tremendous dynamic range. He can take a Bruce Cockburn song title and turn it into a Ramboesque diatribe about not being a pussy when your kid gets kidnapped!

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goin_south says on Nov 3, 2006, 15:16:

Not to change the direction, but "DR WITHOUT BORDERS" That is a scarey concept, to begin with. I am afraid already, even to go to the site.

Where do we go from here?

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Sr Tertius says on Nov 3, 2006, 15:36:

?? G5: Let's put it as clear and straight-forward as possible. You made the following assertion, and I quote (for context--because I know that's your next excuse--your full post appears in the header):

"PBH pros inform the unsuspecting traveler about how good things are in Colombia"

Do you care for substantiating this statement? That's all it's been asked for. Copy-and-paste what "PBH pros inform."

As for the self-esteem issue... man, lighten up, it was a joke (mostly on DonGringo's post). If you can't take one, well that speaks for itself. That, and "8 pagess, and more posts than any other thread that I remember. I'll say it again Mr. Real Self Esteem problem, 8 pages." To see that as an accomplishment is sad beyond words. Gratuituous advise: Get a life.

Best regards,

Señor Don Doctor Tertus I (see? joke...)

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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lampltr says on Nov 3, 2006, 17:03:

Coulmbia Living Columbia is one of the most beautiful countries to visit & develope a comfortable life in. If one lives in an area where there is much in gorilla activity, then one needs to kow how to survive. This does not mean to cry wolf to the nearest police outpost or government headquarters but to try and co-exist using Columbia friends or neutral lawyers as possible mediators if needed. One cannot draw attention to him or herself as most "Gringos" do but to blend in and try to maintain a living standard with most of the locals.
We have some property NW of Periera (No details here), but we also have learned to negotiate with a local group (No, no extortion as some of you may be thinking...)and have developed mutual respect and can happily say some bit of protection from other groups in the region. One needs to be a bit street smart living in these regions, but I would dare any local Columbian Bogota biggits to come down here and then see just how big they think they are here!
I can see many locals get on either side of the fence depending on different issues that may have directly effected the families, but who are we to judge from outside of their country on how issues are to be played out. My family desires to stay where they are and co-exist despite 1 death & 1 near death situation, they desire not to run and I will support them and their beliefs. I married my wife for better or worse & no one can tell me anything different as there is a 98% chance these people (Who ramble on) will have no clue as to what they are talking about. I am not tooting my own horn, but I am a 23 year veteran of the military and still serving with several tours to the Middle East but trips to my families location never hampers me but I will say I do not bring any American identification on my person.
As far as the stats to the deaths & homeless in Columbia, this deeply saddens us & we pray for change but this is a very difficult situation on both sides with no real easy mediation. I only pray personally that Columbia is not being used as a pawn for Democracy in the back yard skirmish with Chevez right now and in the very near future.

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billyb says on Nov 3, 2006, 17:59:

Allow me to be the first to take.... a cheap shot here and mention that there is no such country as Columbia, there is a Colombia though. I mention this so you can make sure you pay your property taxes in the correct country ;)

BillyB

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billyb says on Nov 3, 2006, 18:20:

Lamp, if it involves you giving them anything..... it is extortion.

BillyB

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goin_south says on Nov 3, 2006, 20:37:

g5:"Ringo...I can't figure out if you are on or off the team." I don't take a side g5; I try to tell what I see. I have never even seen any violence or had any problems and have been treated very well on my 3 short trips to Colombia. That doesn't mean I live with my head in the sand. I think I have a good working sense of what reality is in Colombia. I tend to believe about 2/3 of the bad and 2/3 of the good, that I read here, leaving room for other's exaggerated highlights. But, at this moment, (nothing good on a very short call today) I fear for the life and well-being of my gf who is wasting time away in Samaniego, while it appears the ELN are having their 'party' amongst the landmines.

Where do we go from here?

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billyb says on Nov 3, 2006, 20:40:

Ringo, what heppened to your alter ego Gale' ? BillyB

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goin_south says on Nov 3, 2006, 21:47:

you mean, his 'altar' ego? of the more reverend one?
Back to ringodiego, who once got the boot.
no more mister nice guy.

"No hay tal cosa, como ' español perfecto '."

Where do we go from here?

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billyb says on Nov 3, 2006, 21:58:

What got you the boot? LOL. BillyB

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billyb says on Nov 3, 2006, 22:07:

Ringo, that's assuming that you were Mr nice guy ... in first place, very debatable ;)

BillyB

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goin_south says on Nov 3, 2006, 22:11:

few would assume such folley.
And,yes.
Most would likely contest
it.
lol

"No hay tal cosa, como ' español perfecto '."

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Nov 4, 2006, 04:51:

El Martillo, have you counted lately? I think you have dropped out of the top ten.
Woo joo!
Remember that guy, Gringodiego? He made quite a few posts in that World Cup thread, but when you hounded the moderators to delete him a few weeks back, all of his posts were also removed.
Oh-oh. Might have shot yourself in the foot.
(Ooooh-ohhh! Danger in Chi-town!)
I pity the poor parrot.
"Loro y Loco"

Where do we go from here?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 4, 2006, 05:21:

whoddunnit? Who was the one who got that much clout here?

Cheers,
Desi
«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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webmanco says on Nov 4, 2006, 06:18:

This is thread #72 Just trying to boost GomezMan5 EGO.

I second Galecito

"I pity the poor parrot"

This is thread #72

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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goin_south says on Nov 4, 2006, 08:43:

Maybe G5 will start a "Bring Back Gringodiego" Campaign just to ensure he still has the longest thread.

"Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

Where do we go from here?

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Colombiche says on Nov 4, 2006, 09:04:

Coping with life....

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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billyb says on Nov 4, 2006, 10:35:

Maybe the parrot is the brains of the G5 operation. BillyB

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 4, 2006, 10:50:

Do any of the gringos on this site read or speak Spanish? Creo si estos mongolicos bobados podrían leer las noticias en español, ellos pensarían diferentemente. Read www.elmeridianodecordoba.com.co daily - it's a constant chronicle of disappearances, murders and crime - and we're talking about a safe area of Colombia. Muerte para los gringos.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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goin_south says on Nov 5, 2006, 03:33:

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Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Nov 5, 2006, 03:34:

Once away from the airports,... I can only remember seeing about three other gringos, in three trips to Colombia. Hummmmh. Makes me wonder what might be happening to all those dogs. It seems all the pbhers return to the states though, and post about their trips; must be because of the incredible education they get here ;)

And, in that light of the first statement, it is a little wierd feeling, when you spend 5 days somewhere, in Medellin, Cali, or Pasto, and don't see another gringo, and begin to feel as though you may be the only one there....jeje

"Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

Where do we go from here?

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webmanco says on Nov 5, 2006, 05:25:

UTC Thanks for the link. Sorry I could not attend any of the events.





Mapale
Buenavista, a ritmo de mapalé

Buenavista. El mapalé retumba en el corazón del San Jorge. Desde la noche del pasado viernes este municipio disfruta del 11º Festival del Mapalé y Música Folclórica.
La fiesta buenavistera cuenta este año con la participación de 17 grupos folclóricos y de danzas de varias regiones del país, que llegan hasta esta población atraídos por el renombre que ya alcanza este certamen a nivel nacional.
Agrupaciones de la región del Urabá antioqueño, el sur y el interior del país, así como de toda la Costa Atlántica, llenan de alegríalas calles de la pequeña población que se rinde a los pies del sonido de los cueros y el grito de ¡mapalé!
Esta noche, a partir de la 7:00 p.m. en el barrio San José, el público se congregará para vivir la gran final de las danzas de mapalé.

Arrancó Festival

Chinú. Con la eliminatoria de conjuntos infantiles y aficionados arrancó ayer el XXII Festival de Acordeoneros y Compositores de Chinú. El evento musical en esta versión se realizará en homenaje al niño Pedro Julio Álvarez Solano




Reconocen calidad
Planeta Rica. Con una misa y otras actividades la Cooperativa Colanta celebró el reconocimiento de calidad de su planta con el ISO 9001-2000 en el aniversario número 10. El gerente general de la Cooperativa, Jenaro Pérez, los acompañó

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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miamimike says on Nov 5, 2006, 09:56:

Violence In Colombia Far from Over; Read on,,,, Source: Miami Herald

Posted on Thu, Nov.2,2006
COLOMBIA
"Colombian rebels kill 16 police officersBOGOTA"-- (AP) -- Hundreds of leftist rebels bombarded a remote police station with makeshift mortars in a predawn attack Wednesday and ambushed police reinforcements, killing at least 16 officers, authorities said.

The six-hour assault in the village of Tierradentro, 230 miles northwest of Bogotá, was the bloodiest since President Alvaro Uribe was re-elected in May in a landslide that endorsed his get-tough policy with the rebels.

Authorities blamed the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC. At least 10 police officers were missing and four civilians wounded, said Jairo López, the top security official for Cordoba state, where the attack occurred.

Analysts said the attack was part of a broader campaign by the rebel group.

''This is a nationally coordinated offensive by the FARC,'' said political analyst León Valencia. ``The FARC is looking to reclaim territory that was once held by the [far-right] paramilitaries.''

He said about 450 rebels took part in the attack. It comes two weeks after Uribe called off talks with the FARC over a possible prisoner swap, blaming the rebels for a car bombing that wounded 23 at a military base in Bogotá.

Guerrillas attacked the Tierradentro police post at about 2:30 a.m. with cylinder bombs, killing two officers, said national police spokesman Alberto Cantillo. The officers radioed for reinforcements, and 14 officers dispatched from Montelibano, about an hour away by road, were ambushed and killed, he added. Attack helicopters and warplanes were called in, said Gen. Jorge Ballesteros, commander of the air force. The Defense Ministry said army troops recovered the bodies of three guerrillas.

Colombia's military and its U.S. backers had contended that they had weakened the FARC to the point where it was down to about 12,000 fighters and could no longer launch large-scale assaults."

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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cali373 says on Nov 5, 2006, 12:23:

G5 what is your association with Colombia then? why even bother going there for vacation if it is so dangerous? There is always Florida which has many Colombians.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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goin_south says on Nov 5, 2006, 14:34:

'there is always Florida' ...or, Joliet.... lol
(Joliet, Illinois St. Pen...."Conveniently" located just southeast of Chicago on Interstate 55!)

"Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Nov 5, 2006, 14:49:

You do have to 'know who to, and who you can trust' in matters of travel. Just last week, the MSN home page had a article about the "TEN BEST DESTINATIONS TO TRAVEL FOR THIS WINTER". OR, it was something very close to that. AND.... one of the top listings were OAXACA, MEXICO.

But, if you read the cover of today's El Tiempo online, and wait for that Box to change at the top right of the home page, you will see that yesterday or today there are THOUSANDS of people FILLING THE STREETS in protest to have their governor removed.

Yeah; that sounds like my idea of calm, relaxation, and renewal ;)

"Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

Where do we go from here?

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Monpirri says on Nov 5, 2006, 15:12:

I think I got it now. GM5 is a lawyer so he knows what he is talking about. Now, I understand his constant advises!! And today I agree with him 100%, do not go to Colombia is too dangerous!
Do not take my word for it; listen to GM5, DonGringo, now myself and the media.
We do not want nothing to happen to the drug dealers that visit Colombia or the sex hunters that claim that there is nothing in Colombia but hookers.

I myself, I’m planning go to Colombia this year, but I’m taking that risk, besides I’m a fire arms expert and always walk with three bodyguards, one is female and the other is a male…

G5, I am with you now!!

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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goin_south says on Nov 5, 2006, 19:52:

G5 Scare yourself with these Colombian soccer photos:
http://www3.terra.com.co/deportes/galerias/gal1900.htm

"Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

Where do we go from here?

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