Fruit names.

agnieszka says on Jun 15, 2005, 12:04:

just show a picture of cranberries to the maid ask her what's the name of the fruit. u can google for the image. in my paper dictionary it also comes as arándano.

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2retirensa says on Jun 15, 2005, 12:05:

I hope someone contradicts me My friend from Cali told me she never had/saw/or heard of cranberries before coming to the states. Her family loves the dried cranberries which I take to them. They didn't know what they were either. I hope someone responds with a better answer than there aren't any!!. I love them!

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Lauthra says on Jun 15, 2005, 12:17:

Arandanos is the only name cranberries go by in Spanish, I looked for them last x-mas with no luck, I don't think they're imported here... If you do find them let me know please!
Nato ;)

Nato (='.'=)

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santiBOG says on Jun 15, 2005, 12:28:

How about granadas? I've been looking for the pomegranate here in Bogota. It's supposed to be 'granada' but I have not seen it anywhere. Haven't seen arandanos either now that you mention them.

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Rubiazo says on Jun 15, 2005, 12:33:

They must be able to grow there, Bogota has every other kind of berry you could imagine!!

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quindioman says on Jun 15, 2005, 12:34:

never seen cranberries in colombia....with such an eclectic choice on offer i don't think we ever noticed their absence....
Santi.....get out of bogota....i'm from armenia and i seen plenty of granadas everytime i go back

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jbyron1734 says on Jun 15, 2005, 13:01:

fruits Try granadillas ( Cali)o pomagranadas i am not sure wich one are you looking for/.

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Lionheart says on Jun 15, 2005, 13:08:

the cranberry thread http://www.poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/5952

this was about looking for cranberry sauce, I'll copy the post I made here:

Small (European) Cranberry - oxycoccus - Alaska to Labrador, Greenland, and Newfoundland; south through New England, the northern portions of the Great Lakes States, and Western Washington and Oregon. Also Europe and Asia.

Large (American) Cranberry - macrocarpa - North America, this version has the reference that Tinto made.

A friend in Chile asked me about cranberries as well, as she had seen them in US supermarkets and had the sauce for Thanksgiving here.

Cranberries are very picky where they grow, they need the winter frost. So only southern Chile could provide the right climate, but I I couldn't confirm this. The European cranberry needs the cold shadey woods of the north, and the American cranberry additionally needs to be close to an ocean coast, I assume because of the additional mineral content in the air and rain (salt?). Blueberries are almost as picky as cranberries, but they do grow in Chile.

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colombiabuzz says on Jun 15, 2005, 14:52:

frutas, brutas! (just cuz it rhymmed) Yes, they are called arandanos, but you can't find them anywhere in Colombia. You can find imported juice at Carrefour. The closest thing to the pomegranete is the granadilla, but it's just a cousin of sorts.
Try chirimolla o anon. WOW, now that's a fruit!

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Mrblablazo says on Jun 15, 2005, 15:48:

Hmmm . . . I always thought arandano was the blueberry. Such confusion. My rola wife always just says cranberry, she doesn't think there is a word. Shame. What the heck do we call a grapefruit? I have a hard time explaining those also.

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kernow62 says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:14:

I think grapefruit is called toronja. My rola wife calls cranberry by the name arandano, but says she never saw one in Colombia. She couldn't recall a name for blueberry.

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Lauthra says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:38:

Blueberry? I've always called blueberries moras, am I wrong? Are moras blackberries? If I am wrong, then blueberries must be another berry we don't get here...
Nato ;)

Nato (='.'=)

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quindioman says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:46:

moras are raspberries......my fave drink back home....jugo de mora.....con agua

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kernow62 says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:53:

I thought raspberries were frambuesas and moras

http://colfruits.8m.com/mora1.htm

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quindioman says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:57:

i'm pretty sure on this one....moras.....small......red......well they certainly are not blackberries...that's an interesting 1
as for frambuesa, damn....that's a word i haven't heard for years but it's got me thinking.....the only one i'm pretty certain is that mora=raspberries, as for the other ones, I'm at a loss...any one out there know what blackberries/blueberries? What about frambuesa?

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kernow62 says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:59:

See link in my previous post. Wife says mora = blackberry.

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quindioman says on Jun 15, 2005, 17:03:

hmmm i'm beginning to think that you get red and black moras/raspberries.....dictionary time...hmmmm....this thing's just told me that frambuesa=raspberriy and mora= blackberry......
which means i'm wrong and i've been enjoying blacberry juice under the guise of raspberry juice all this time.....and i still refuse to believe that.....

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quindioman says on Jun 15, 2005, 17:09:

so how come that the juice is red yet the berry is black??
and how come i only see frambuesa in yoghurts but not in drinks?
i just can't get over the fact that for all these years i swore black and blue that raspberries were moras....oh well there's something i learnt today....which reminds me....bed time

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kernow62 says on Jun 15, 2005, 18:26:

Doesn't matter as long as you ordered jugo de mora and enjoyed the taste.

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juanalejo says on Jun 15, 2005, 19:06:

Up to what I know: Fresa: Strawberry
Mora: Blackberry
Frambuesa: Raspberry
Arándano: Cranberry
Agraz: Blueberry

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FrankLeal says on Jun 15, 2005, 21:14:

Other fruits you should taste in Colombia! Well I have never taste a raspberry, cranberry or blueberry in Colombia. Some other fruits strange for americans or europeans are: lulo, tomate de árbol, guama, mamón, corozo (there are 2 types, the small red one from the coast and the brown one),badea, papayuela... dont remember more at this moment but I know there are much more. By the way if you know translations for these fruits that would be nice. Even badea is a fruit known in Santander but unknown in other regions such as Antioquia.

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Rubiazo says on Jun 15, 2005, 21:23:

Mora= 'berry' AFAIK it's a generic term.
Jugo de mora seems to always be blackberry in colombia though which is just fine with me, and it's also my favorite.

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Gator says on Jun 15, 2005, 21:32:

Mrs. Gator Says juanalejo.... receives an A+

Fresa: Strawberry
Mora: Blackberry (many people include raspberry in this name)
Frambuesa: Raspberry
Arándano: Cranberry
Agraz: Blueberry

OOPS! I'm outa here for a batido. Probably mora

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 16, 2005, 00:31:

Rasberry is much softer than Mora and it hasn't got the strong taste like the Mora have, Blackberries are black, they start with a red color they look like mini Moras but if you taste them at this stage they very sour and when they mature they turn black and sweet,Blueberries are round and kind of dark bluish color, Cranberries are round and red and bit bitter, the only one that I can compare to Mora is Rasberry but is not exactly the same.And longaberries are green (correction, they red)

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quindioman says on Jun 16, 2005, 00:34:

longaberries???? now i'm really confused

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 16, 2005, 00:49:

jajaj, don't worry Cockney I have that effect on men, hehe.
Longaberries, are round and green and when you cook them they turn kind of sweet,you can make a lot of sweets and Jam with them

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quindioman says on Jun 16, 2005, 00:57:

they sound like gooseberries

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 16, 2005, 01:02:

sorry my spelling is Loganberry and it's red not green the green one It's the gooseberry
Loganberry: a small red fruit, similar to a raspberry, or the tall plant on which it grows.
and gooseberries:small green fruit covered with short hairs, which grows on a bush and has a sour taste.
Both are good to make Jam and pies

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 16, 2005, 02:41:

And Cranberry I think it is arándano.

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kernow62 says on Jun 16, 2005, 04:49:

Now you are talking Kat1, gooseberry jam, just had some on my toast. mmm.

We used to pick them and you have to watch out for the poisonous puff adders that like to sleep in the bushes. Some folks in the UK call them goosegogs.

Some other good jam fruits in the UK (I am not sure if they have been introduced to Colombia) are the red currant and the black currant. For me it was interesting to see many plants familiar in the UK growing in the regions around Bogotá. I miss many of these familiar plants living here in Florida.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 16, 2005, 05:05:

Kernow, When I go for walks during the autum,I pick some blackberries with spiders include! :-D

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kernow62 says on Jun 16, 2005, 05:07:

Just don't eat the little worms. ;-)

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Lauthra says on Jun 16, 2005, 07:33:

grosellas? Kat1 are you talking about grosellas? Can't fit your description to any fruit we can find in Colombia...
Nato ;)

Nato (='.'=)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 16, 2005, 07:37:

Lauthra Grosellas is what they called Blackcurrant
Grosellas rojas Redcurrants

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Rubiazo says on Jun 16, 2005, 07:40:

You should be able to grow any kind of berry you want in Colombia. They have every climate on earth there, except for arctic! And they have a wide variety of soil types too, whereas in Brazil, for example, they have a preponderance of very acidic soils even in most areas with moderate temperatures.

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Cerealkiller says on Jun 16, 2005, 07:45:

Ahhhhh Blackcurrant... Kat I just got refreshing memories of my snakebite drinking days...blackcurrant squash...wicked!!!!

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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Lauthra says on Jun 16, 2005, 08:16:

ugh I hate blackcurrant, I remember the first time I tried the blackcurrant squash, yuck!
Thanks for the clarification Kat. Again, blackcurrant and redcurrant, fruits we don't get here, as far as I'm concerned..
Nato ;)

Nato (='.'=)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 16, 2005, 09:29:

and my favorite berry is... lingonberry, of course! Mora is not a generic for a berry. Mora is a type of berry that is mad up with tiny roundish compartments each with a litlle, hard seed inside. Lingonberries, blueberries, gooseberries, cranberries, strawberries, currants (black, red, white), etc are not that type. Mora is a specific name for the large, blackish red blackberry that grows in Colombia, also cultivated in Spain and very closely related to blackberries of the colder climes. Raspberry belongs to this type or plant family too, so does another mora-type berry, the arctic cloudberry which is red and hard when not ripe but turns into juicy, delicate, golden succulency when fully ripe.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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quindioman says on Jun 16, 2005, 09:37:

and now i'm berry berry happy someone clarified that

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Lionheart says on Jun 17, 2005, 02:42:

The Cook's Thesaurus is a cooking encyclopedia that covers thousands of ingredients and kitchen tools. Entries include pictures, descriptions, synonyms, pronunciations, and suggested substitutions.

The Cook's Thesaurus

Here are some more web sites I use to translate recipes, like the Colombian Cookbook I am working on.

Cooking Measures and Conversion Calculator

The Go Madrid Spanish Food Dictionary & Glossary

Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages

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Rubiazo says on Jun 17, 2005, 20:21:

Up here I have heard everything from strawberries to blueberries called 'moras'. But these were people from DR, where berries of any sort are few and far between. I was offered a glass of 'jugo de mora' in a Dominican house, and a glass of blueberry juice came, which was just fine with me :))

WorldLingo gives the following:

arándano for blueberry AND cranberry
zarzamora for blackberry (????)
grosella espinosa for gooseberry (??????)
currant by itself translates as 'pasa'
blackcurrant came out as 'grosella negra' but redcurrant came out as 'pasa roja' (???????????????)

no translation available for lingonberry and cloudberry (i'd be very surprised if those words existed in Spanish)

Working backwards from Spanish:
Arándano is 'bilberry' (WTF, i've never HEARD of that one!)
Grosella is 'currant'
Agraz and mora don't translate.

Well, so much for WorldLingo I guess :PP

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kernow62 says on Jun 17, 2005, 20:23:

Bilberry is blueberry, just a different word, I know we used that name where I lived in the UK

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 18, 2005, 09:07:

And Brambles is another name for Blackberries.

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kernow62 says on Jun 18, 2005, 10:44:

Wow Kat I had forgotten that completely until you mentioned it!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 18, 2005, 13:46:

kernow Do you remember Elderflower?

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Rubiazo says on Jun 18, 2005, 17:34:

Your mother was a hamster?

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kernow62 says on Jun 18, 2005, 18:06:

Sure, we even get them in Orlando and they grow in Colombia too. They are a sacred plant in my religion, we call the plant scawen. Not only are the flowers edible but the berries too and of course elderberry wine is very popular. You must cook the flowers and berries though as the mild poisonous alkali needs to be destroyed by heat. It is amazing they grow so well in such varying climates and soils.

Here's some info, more than most folks could give a toss about.

SAMBUCI FLORES, B.P.
ELDER FLOWERS.

Other tomes: Cook - Felter - Ellingwood - USDisp - Sayre - King's

Elder flowers are obtained from the common elder, Sambucus nigra, Linn. (N.O. Caprifoliaceae). The flowers are borne in large cymose inflorescences, which are collected and thrown into heaps; after a few hours the corollas become loosened and can then be removed by sifting. They are either used in the fresh state, or preserved for future use (pickled) by the addition of 10 per cent. of common salt; occasionally also they are dried. The "flowers" consist of the small, white, rotate, five-lobed monopetalous corollas, in the short tube of which five stamens with short filaments and yellow anthers are inserted; a few pedicels and immature fruits are also present. When fresh, the flowers have a slightly bitter taste and an odour that is scarcely pleasant; the pickled flowers, however, gradually acquire an agreeable fragrance, and are therefore generally used for the preparation of elder-flower water; a similar change also takes place in the water distilled from the fresh flowers. The flowers of S. Ebulus, Linn., a comparatively rare plant, are distinguished by their dark red anthers.

Constituents.—The most important constituent of elder flowers is a trace of volatile oil, which is of buttery consistence at ordinary temperatures and appears to contain a terpene and a paraffin.

Action and Uses.—Elder flowers are used in the preparation of Aqua Sambuci, which is employed in making lotions and collyria.
PREPARATIONS.

Aqua Sambuci, B.P.—ELDER-FLOWER WATER.
Elder flowers, fresh, 100; water, 500. Add the flowers to the water, and distil 100. If fresh elder flowers are not obtainable, an equivalent quantity of the flowers preserved with common salt may be used. Elder-flower water is mildly astringent and is used as a vehicle for eye and skin lotions. The product gradually acquires an agreeably aromatic odour, and it is preferable not to use it until this change has taken place,
Unguentum Sambuci, P.L., 1851.—ELDER OINTMENT.
Elder flowers, fresh, 100; lard, 100. Heat the elder flowers with the lard until they become crisp, then strain through a linen cloth with pressure, and allow to cool. Elder-flower ointment is used as a basis for pomades and cosmetic ointments.

SAMBUCI FOLIA.
ELDER LEAVES.

Elder leaves are obtained from the common elder, Sambucus nigra, Linn. (N.O. Caprifoliaceae), a small tree widely distributed in Britain. The leaves are imparipinnate, with usually two or three pairs of very shortly stalked leaflets; the latter are from 3 to 8 centimetres long, oval to lanceolate in outline, acuminate, finely and closely serrate and glabrous; upper surface dark green, paler beneath.

Constituents.—The leaves and bark of Sambucus nigra contain an alkaloid, sambucine, a purgative resin, and the cyanogenetic glucoside, sambunigrin, which is the glucoside of l-phenylglycollic (mandelic) acid (compare Laurocerasi Folia). Sambunigrin crystallises in white felted needles, and is readily hydrolysed by emulsin, which is also present in the leaves, with production of hydrocyanic acid, benzaldehyde, and glucose; by the action of small quantities of barium hydroxide it is readily converted into prulaurasin. Fresh elder leaves yield about 0.16 per cent. of hydrocyanic acid. They also contain cane sugar, invertin, and a considerable quantity of potassium nitrate.

Action and Uses.—Elder leaves are used in the preparation of Unguentum Sambuci Viride, a domestic remedy for bruises, for use as an emollient, and for application to wounds.
PREPARATION.

Unguentum Sambuci Viride, PhD., 1826.—GREEN ELDER OINTMENT.
Elder leaves, fresh, 3; lard, 4; prepared suet, 2. Heat the elder leaves with the melted lard and suet until the colour is extracted, then strain through a linen cloth with pressure, and allow to cool. Green elder ointment is a domestic remedy for sprains, bruises, chilblains, etc., and is used as an emollient cooling ointment.

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platano says on Jun 18, 2005, 18:10:

Wow! This is a berry interesting thread!

Did we mention Saskatoons yet?

Saskatoons look and taste like blueberries with a thicker skin and thicker juice. It can be used for table purposes or processed very much the same as a blueberry. The botanical name is Amelanchier alnifolia, other species of Amelanchier include the juneberry, serviceberry and shadbush. The plant resembles a tall shrub that can attain a height of 8 feet or more. The fruit are borne on clusters of 6-12 and are usually blue purple, but colours of cream through red to black are not uncommon. Fruit size ranges from 0.6-1.6 cm in diameter.

Plátano, el banano verde, it isn't easy being green
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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mikeyr says on Jun 20, 2005, 21:08:

Granadillas Anyone have any idea where to get granadillas in California???

Mikey

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lpdiver says on Jun 21, 2005, 08:54:

And what do they call dingleberries? Frutas de culo?

T

"cook some rice!"

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