From Nicaragua to San Andres

makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 3, 2009, 08:08:

theflatline says on Jul 3, 2009, 08:32:

There is bad blood between the two countries. Here is a little history. Stolen from Wikipedia, but saves me from typing it.



In 1928, Colombia and Nicaragua signed the Esguerra-Bárcenas treaty, which gave control of the islands to Colombia. However, when the Sandinista government assumed power in the 1980s, Nicaragua repudiated the treaty. Nicaragua claims that the treaty was signed under United States pressure and military occupation and thus does not constitute a sovereign decision. Colombia argues that the treaty's final ratification in 1930 (when U.S. forces were already on their way out) confirms its validity. Colombia and Honduras signed a maritime boundary treaty in 1999 which implicitly accepts Colombian sovereignty over the islands.

In 2001 Nicaragua filed claims with the International Court of Justice (ICJ) over the disputed maritime boundary, claiming 50,000 km² in the Caribbean, including the San Andrés and Providencia archipelagoes. Colombia responded that the ICJ has no jurisdiction over the matter, and increased its naval and police presence in the islands. Colombia also defended its claim in the ICJ. On December 13, 2007 the ICJ ruled that the islands were Colombian territory, but left the maritime border dispute unresolved. Colombia and Nicaragua will go through another trial to resolve these claims.[3]

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cippalippa says on Jul 3, 2009, 08:57:

Hello,
yes, I knew about it, but I still think that such "problem" is not the reason why I can't
find any direct connection. There should at least be a flight from Managua.

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sanandressi says on Jul 3, 2009, 09:10:

cippalippa, with all due respect, there is NO direct flight from Miami to San Andres so why would and should there be one from Nicaragua? Nicaraguans don't have any money to be flying direct to San Andres and then the "bad blood" mentioned above. The Corn Islands of Nicaragua, not far from San Andres, is what the Sandinistas should develop but then there are continued rumors of OIL out there off of San Andres.

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Papi de Alejo says on Jul 3, 2009, 09:13:

COPA will get you from Managua to San Andres with only a short stopover in Panama City.

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Haddeman says on Jul 3, 2009, 09:14:

I believe there are flights from Costa Rica top San Andres,not sure if these are scheduled or charter but they do fly.

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sanandressi says on Jul 3, 2009, 09:19:

There was a direct flight from San Jose to SAI, West Caribbean Airways, but, they went out of business and I don't think anyone picked up the route?

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cippalippa says on Jul 3, 2009, 09:26:

The reason why I was looking for a direct flight is that one 200km direct flight is supposed
to be reasonably cheaper than a 2/3-hops flight. The flight via Panama for example costs 500 US$.
I guess I can therefore exclude the "ferry" option, right?

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Chriscan (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 3, 2009, 11:37:

sanandressi says on Jul 3, 2009, 12:08:

Yes, Transat charters from Toronto during the winter and only on certain days. The Canadians almost always stay at the 5 or 6 Decameron Hotels in package deals. Some guy from Toronto told me about 6 years ago that he paid $900 USD for two weeks in one of the all inclusive Decameron hotels and this included airfare. Probably not that low today 7 years later but back then that was a steal indeed! San Andres Island is mainly for Colombian tourists and lots of illicit drugs used to pass by there and maybe still do? I dunno and I don't want to!

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 3, 2009, 12:41:

Leeroy says on Jul 3, 2009, 13:45:

I understand there are boats between the corn islands and San Andres/Providencia.

But, it is not an official border - you'd have entered illegally, and would have a hard time explaining yourself to immigration in San Andres.

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cippalippa says on Jul 3, 2009, 18:21:

Corn Island to San Andres? Interesting. However, I would need to enter LEGALLY, also because from
San Andres I would like then to fly to another city in Colombia.

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Chriscan (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 3, 2009, 19:51:

Sam Salmon says on Jul 3, 2009, 22:05:

Daniel Ortega sexually molested his step daughter for years he is a creep a criminal and deserves a bullet.
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"Sexual abuse allegations

In 1998, Daniel Ortega's adopted stepdaughter Zoilamérica Narváez released a 48-page report[10] describing her allegations that Ortega had systematically sexually abused her from 1979, when she was 11, until 1990.[11] Ortega and his wife Murillo denied the allegations.[12] The case could not proceed in Nicaraguan courts because Ortega had immunity from prosecution as a member of parliament, and the five-year statute of limitations for sexual abuse and rape charges was judged to have been exceeded. Narváez took a complaint to the Inter American Human Rights Commission, which was ruled admissible on 15 October 2001.[13] On 4 March 2002 the Nicaraguan government accepted the Commission's recommendation of a friendly settlement.[9] As of 2006 Ortega continues to deny the allegations, but Narváez has not withdrawn them.[12]

In 2006, Hillel Neuer, the executive director of UN Watch, expressed concern that election of Ortega, described as having "highly substantiated" charges of sexual abuse raised against him, to the Presidency of Nicaragua, could undermine worldwide NGO efforts against child abuse and sexual violence.[14]"

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