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For the Shakira-haters

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7406759.stm

"Imagine what Latin America could achieve if we invest in developing the potential of these children," Shakira said earlier this week.

"The funny thing is that Latin America produces three times what it needs to feed its population. So, it is doable, we can really eradicate poverty."

By Alma del Norte on May 17, 2008, 18:52 in Friendly Talkzone.

Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 17, 2008, 18:55:

"Alas was launched in 2006 to tackle poverty that kills an estimated 350,000 children each year in Latin America."

I'm not sure how they intend to achieve their goal without political will, however.

La vida es una rutina

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Man Tequila says on May 17, 2008, 19:12:

Shakira's social work doesn't mean you have to like her music.

The Shakira-haters here generally claimed she did not devote "enough" of her own money to her own foundation, which I find hard to believe. The claim she is merely seeking publicity may have some degree of merit, but so what?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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CatGirl says on May 17, 2008, 19:15:

To some Colombians - she is simply in her "fame" situation because of her familial ties.

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 17, 2008, 19:17:

Mr T, hope you are well. And I agree. At least she tries. Oh, and I like her music.

La vida es una rutina

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Man Tequila says on May 17, 2008, 19:40:

I like her music. But I am ignorant of her family ties.

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Monpirri says on May 17, 2008, 19:46:

I like everything about Shakira.

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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Robert Jorge says on May 17, 2008, 19:54:

I like her music - do not care for her voice at all. But I think she is a great person.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 17, 2008, 20:21:

I like some of her older music in Spanish, but don't care much for her English songs. As far as her looks, I think she is quite the butterface.

She is actually a client of ours. Although I am not a voice guy, I had to do voiceover for some of her Spanish TV spots for her last US tour because the normal Spanish voice guy was unavailable.

Yo me como los mocos debajo de la ruana pa que no me pidan.

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CatGirl says on May 17, 2008, 21:36:

CG "I had to do voiceover for some of her Spanish TV spots for her last US tour because the normal Spanish voice guy was unavailable."

Sounds interesting!.......kitty is curious...uhh. what is a butterface? ;))..jeje

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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billyb says on May 17, 2008, 22:23:

"To some Colombians - she is simply in her "fame" situation because of her familial ties."

???

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Robert Jorge says on May 17, 2008, 22:27:

I don't know what "butterface" is either. But, her face looks pretty good to me. Her hair even better. Her body .... she is quite attractive. (had to clean up my first response) Anyway, she is pretty easy on the eyes.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Man Tequila says on May 17, 2008, 22:28:

Butterface means she has a nice body...

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gogopher says on May 17, 2008, 22:45:

She's hot, love those hips, the way she moves. And I like her voice too.

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sloopskipper says on May 18, 2008, 04:23:

Maybe most have seen the CNN segement, posted some weeks ago:

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CatGirl says on May 18, 2008, 08:10:

Ahhh! Now I recall by brother saying.."Everything is fine but- her- face" Got it.

He doesnt go for girls like that jejeje....

sorry - took a bit for me 2 get

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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webmanco says on May 18, 2008, 09:27:

Amigos de Colombia
Foto: AFP
El Tiempo
La estrecha alianza de las rubias
Shakira y Paulina Rubio, junto a sus colegas, se unieron por la educación de los niños durante los conciertos de Alas.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 18, 2008, 09:36:

which one is which?

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nueva york bombero says on May 18, 2008, 09:39:

They do look like mirror images, but I think the slightly thinner one on the right is Paulina???
I could be wrong.....

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Lisa Zee says on May 18, 2008, 09:57:

Kat: you always" take the words out of my mouth" LOL

Thinner? Paulina`s hair is a wanna be Shakira!

I like, and admire Shakira very much.

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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nueva york bombero says on May 18, 2008, 10:00:

Paulina not so much Lis?
I think they're both attractive and talented.
If I had to choose....Shakira wins every time!

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Lisa Zee says on May 18, 2008, 10:06:

NYB: not so much what?... When are you going to Medellin?

Yes, both singers are very beautiful, I like Shakira very much for all she does besides singing.

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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nueva york bombero says on May 18, 2008, 10:09:

"I like, and admire Shakira very much."
Paulina not so much ?
I am going for La feria in August.
Leaving in July and probably staying 3 weeks.
First, I'm off to Spain for the first time in June!

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 18, 2008, 10:15:

A butterface is a woman with a nice body and a so-so or ugly face. As in "but her face...". I've always thought she had a bit of a pig face and she just seems like she'd be naturally hairy. She seems like the type that would grow a nice mustache if given the chance.

MTV3 was doing a whole "Shakirama" thing with a bunch of shows about her this weekend.

Paulina is also a client of ours and after seeing lots of unedited footage of both, I think that Paulina has a much nicer "culito" and to me, that is the most important part on a woman. God I sound sexist.

Yo me como los mocos debajo de la ruana pa que no me pidan.

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Monpirri says on May 18, 2008, 10:45:

You try to get Shakira as a client of your ColombianoGringo.

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 18, 2008, 10:48:

She has been a client of ours for years. I work for a company that does about 60% of the concert and album marketing for the music industry in the US. I am a software developer that mainly writes programs for audio/video production, but am often asked to fill in for voiceover work because I speak perfect Spanish and can imitate many latin accents.

Yo me como los mocos debajo de la ruana pa que no me pidan.

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Monpirri says on May 18, 2008, 11:20:

I am sorry ColombianoGringo but I did not know Shakira was also a customer of yours since you only mentioned a non colombian as your client.
Thanks

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 18, 2008, 11:39:

"She is actually a client of ours. Although I am not a voice guy, I had to do voiceover for some of her Spanish TV spots for her last US tour because the normal Spanish voice guy was unavailable."

I posted this earlier in this thread. Like I said, I simply am not a big fan of her English songs. I like her old stuff like "Ojos asi", "Donde estas corazon", etc.

We are starting to do a lot of Spanish acts like Shakira, Mana, Paulina Rubio, Enrique Iglesias, etc. but our main business is in Rock, Hiphop, country and other English genres. Unfortunately, Shakira is the only Colombian act that uses us. I would love to see some Carlos Vives,but he simply doesn't widely sell out large concert venues in the US market. I don't know why Juanes doesn't use us.

Yo me como los mocos debajo de la ruana pa que no me pidan.

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romy says on May 18, 2008, 12:42:

Funny how you mention the old Shak, I had 'Pies descalzos' blasting out of my car all of last week.

btw, do you have special access to concert tickets? say if a friend from up north needed a hook up could you facilitate?

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 18, 2008, 13:02:

I rarely get free tickets, although I got some to a Rush show for a friend who couldn't wait for me to get them and he ended up in the lawn seats and I got second row. I'd never seen them live before, but it was really a great show.

We are normally able to buy from what is called Artist Reserve for local shows. They always hold back a certain number of good tickets for the artist or management to give out. However, we normally pay full price, but get great seats.

Unfortunately, the reps at our company like to play gatekeeper and can be real dicks about it. You have never seen such self-importance from people who effectively do nothing more than take phone orders. If you are ever in Houston and want to see a show, let me know and I'll tell you if I can help. PM me and I'll send you a link were you can see our active tours.

Yo me como los mocos debajo de la ruana pa que no me pidan.

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webmanco says on May 18, 2008, 13:08:

ColombianoGringo

What is your opinion on the Mexican company who was given a contract to built a new events building?. Colombians entrepreneurs are complaining that it was the wrong decision and that it was not a fair one.

http://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/2008-05-15/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-4...
Mayo 15 de 2008

Polémica por nueva propuesta para hacer conciertos en Bogotá

El grupo CIE de México tendría listo, en 60 días, un escenario temporal que se pondría en Salitre Mágico. Pero realizadores de espectáculos colombianos dicen que no tendrían condiciones.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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romy says on May 18, 2008, 13:20:

CG- yeah, I wasn't talking free. just some tickets are very hard to get a hold off as they sell out within minutes if not seconds... I should have enough frequent flyer points to get down to Houston for a couple of good shows so don't disregard this as rubbish talk because I will take you up on it if a good show comes about in Houston, there's so many non-stop flights to Houston as you are our sister city (actually Calgary is probably the little sister of Houston) a lot of my engineer friends are in Houston a large portion of the year.

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Monpirri says on May 18, 2008, 13:27:

Webmanco y cual es tu opinon? Aunque ya la conozco basados en tu multiples elogios a tu patria lejana. Me gustaria que todos se dieran cuenta que fibra tienes.

"What is your opinion on the Mexican company who was given a contract to built a new events building?. Colombians entrepreneurs are complaining that it was the wrong decision and that it was not a fair one.

http://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/2008-05-15/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-4....
Mayo 15 de 2008

Polémica por nueva propuesta para hacer conciertos en Bogotá

El grupo CIE de México tendría listo, en 60 días, un escenario temporal que se pondría en Salitre Mágico. Pero realizadores de espectáculos colombianos dicen que no tendrían condiciones."

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 18, 2008, 13:57:

Romy, I'd be glad to help if I can. The only problem is that it is a very last minute kind of thing. It really depends on the show and the venue.

I am a little jealous that you live in Calgary. You are near some excellent ski mountains. I have never been to Banff or Lake Louise, but I hear that they are spectacular.

Yo me como los mocos debajo de la ruana pa que no me pidan.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 18, 2008, 14:01:

WM,

I don;t have a problem from a nationalistic standpoint, but I am very leary of doing business with any Mexican companies. I have a lot of experience in Mexican business dealings. They are extremely corrupt and known for extremely poor quality standards. I have seen time and time again that even large Mexican companies like Pemex and Cemex will screw their vendors and their clients without batting an eye. My dad lost several hundred thousand dollars in dealings with Mexican companies and my current business partner for my side company got screwed by companies in Mexico.

Also, wasn't the problematic cement for the Transmilenio sourced from Cemex?

Yo me como los mocos debajo de la ruana pa que no me pidan.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 18, 2008, 14:03:

Weird, The edit link is dissapearing rather quickly. Sorry for all the typos, but I am on my dad's PC right now and it has a heinously uncomfortable little keyboard. Also, he is recalcitrant and refuses to install Firefox so I am not alerted to my typos.

Yo me como los mocos debajo de la ruana pa que no me pidan.

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webmanco says on May 18, 2008, 14:05:

Mexicans got lots of contracts in Colombia and yes in the roads infrastructure , I don´t know first hand whether they do a good job or not, but I read they had managed the Salitre Mágico park in Bogotá and although it seems they some money to the City, Mexican need to be clear of debts if they want any other contract.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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goin_south says on May 18, 2008, 14:41:

which is which? come on kat1, even I can tell.... rubio looks more like beyonce, no?

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Monpirri says on May 18, 2008, 19:40:

Webmanco, thanks for your comment. Would you care to elaborate what did you mean by this, "...althought it seems they some money to the City?

Webmaco, have you read this,
"I don;t have a problem from a nationalistic standpoint, but I am very leary of doing business with any Mexican companies. I have a lot of experience in Mexican business dealings. They are extremely corrupt and known for extremely poor quality standards. I have seen time and time again that even large Mexican companies like Pemex and Cemex will screw their vendors and their clients without batting an eye. My dad lost several hundred thousand dollars in dealings with Mexican companies and my current business partner for my side company got screwed by companies in Mexico.

Also, wasn't the problematic cement for the Transmilenio sourced from Cemex?"

Please keep ColombianoGringo experience with You and listen to the world news and please keep the promos a bit in focus with current affairs.

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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Lisa Zee says on May 18, 2008, 20:28:

Monpi: te estan cantando tu cancion, LOL

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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webmanco says on May 18, 2008, 22:27:

seems they owe some money to the City The Mexican company

They are extremely corrupt and known for extremely poor quality standards
I am not to critizice illeness my own country has.

Mompy, sorry but I am not a decision maker on approving or not contracts to foreign firms, still I would no base any decision on maybe isolate cases, so please don´t lecture me. :-)

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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romy says on May 18, 2008, 22:50:

CG- there's some very nice hills just an hour away from the city. definately if you're a ski lover you have to make it out at some point. I used to snowboard but school and enjoying the citylife I don't go out much lately. apparently the facilities they are putting together up in whistler for the olympics are unreal.

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Mononoke28 says on May 19, 2008, 09:39:

About damn time! Although I don't doubt she felt the pressure for not doing more. But why weren't the concerts in Colombia? It looks to me like she doesn't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole. I also liked how Juanes dissed her. His plane couldn't take off and he couldn't find another way to get to the concert. I'm sure he said "La chimba! Yo no voy a eso y ella por qué no vino al mío!" We got it Juanes, you had plane difficulties (wink, wink).

But don't get me wrong, I'm sure Shakira will go to Colombia to see how the poor children of El Chocó are doing... just in time when her next album comes out. XD

Diana

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Monpirri says on May 19, 2008, 17:35:

Lisa, lol..until now I picked up your joke. Which song you are refering to? The one that goes like this, chimbiao...la la la la la...

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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