Five Best Underrated Cities -- Medellin is One

morphus says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:59:

Norway sounds good.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:21:

Birmingham?

I repeat

Birmingham?

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kalder says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:30:

Bostin'

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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kalder says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:38:

Not a bad analogy.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:44:

Hmm. My cousin lives in Tenerife. I'll need to go visit soon.

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paulr says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:53:

If Detroit is a sh´*t hole, then it is the Detroit of England. I think the writer must have got some action when he was there, nothing but ugly grey buildings & the worst accent you´ve ever heard. I think the only thing it´s famous for is the spaghetti junction, great if you like spending your days stuck in traffic!

Life is like a ten-speed bicycle. Most of us have gears we never use.

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Frank Rizzo says on Feb 15, 2008, 11:06:

Man....ozzy is loaded...... saw a special on him.....I had no idea he had that much dinero!! Un-mistakable voice....killer

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Robert Jorge says on Feb 15, 2008, 15:04:

I think Birmingham is where the Hue (Nam) war scene from Full Metal Jacket was filmed. It was the only urban area that looked bad enough. I could be wrong, but that's what I seem to remember.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Monpirri says on Feb 15, 2008, 16:50:

I like the comment where the writer says, “Make sure you try traditional Colombian cuisine..."
http://www.logoonline.com/travel/features/five_best_underrated_cities....

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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manINred says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:05:

I love Medellin but...

" a thriving nightlife and the burgeoning neighborhood of Lleras Park packed with boutiques and trendy restaurants, Medellin is effortlessly Colombia's best-kept secret."

Where is this bustling nightlife? The nightlife is alright I guess... umm, not that great, and if that is thriving nightlife, no wonder Birmingham makes the list.

And to use burgeoning Parque Lleras, heart of Poblado, as an example, gimme a break. Yeah, Medellin as witnessed by the typical Poblado-lover tourist. There are plenty other way better things that make Medellin great that are NOT its 'thriving' nightlife and Parque Lleras, both of which could be considered, ummm, let's just say shouldn't by any means put Medellin on a map.

As for Birmingham, well, I have heard great things about it, and apparently it is rapidly changing. My only impressions of it are an ugly-ass shithole, but things can change, and I have heard some very good things from very reliable sources. I have to check it out and see for myself when I'm back in England in April, I guess.

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Lisa Zee says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:09:

Lisbon?!!!! I was there for a week, it did not impress me one bit!

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billyb says on Feb 15, 2008, 21:09:

My top five.

Bogota
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogota,_Tennessee

Paris
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Texas

Moscow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_Idaho

London
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London,_Ontario

Venice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice,_California

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Simon says on Feb 15, 2008, 21:31:

I knew there was a Bogota in New Jersey, but now there's also one in Tennessee?

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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billyb says on Feb 15, 2008, 21:38:

fokin rolos are everywhere jaja.

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manINred says on Feb 16, 2008, 00:51:

Better in Medellin? Everything basically, I'd have to list off much more than just 5. Ok, yeah, some good nightspots, but saying it is thriving with nightlife is a bit generous.

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azunoman says on Feb 16, 2008, 08:12:

saw this today...

TOP 10 UNDERRATED US CITIES

Baltimore
Fort Lauderdale
Houston
Kansas City
Louisville
Minneapolis
Pittsburgh
Portland
Providence
Sacramento

Ready, Fire, Aim

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 10:32:

Mejor que medellin........... jajaja sobre todo!!

no hay tierra como mi tierra ni gente como la mia.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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Simon says on Feb 16, 2008, 10:40:

Claro, es que vas a decir que hay otra gente como que la tuya, duh.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 10:50:

y al decir eso no es que este hablando de los demas..........solo que es importante reconocer lo mejor: y en ese casa como mi linda tierra de Antioquia no hay nada!!!

:)

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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Medellin Traveler says on Feb 16, 2008, 11:27:

I much as I love Medellin, it still has some work to do before it can make its debut on the world stage of truly great cities, but they are working on it.

All this will come with time, hard work, commitment, and change, change that can only come from the Colombian government with regards to new laws to help improve business, travel, investments opportunities, as well as providing a confortable life in Colombia for foreigners without all the red tape to get things done.

In the meantime, hopefully, we all can contribute something positive to the transformation of Medellin, Colombia in one way or another.

La cuidad de la primavera, estoy feliz porque te vuelvo a ver - www.medellintraveler.com

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Peter (Moderator) says on Feb 16, 2008, 11:42:

I agree Medellin isn't one of the worlds' great cities yet, despite its climate. There are almost no walkable areas in the city, hardly any enjoyable city parks with green in them, and the center is a mess.

Then again, if they play their cards right (and don't give every neighbourhood the 80s feel of Lleras with it's flashy and bad restaurants), it definitely has potential.

I visited Birmingham about 15 years ago, I remember burnt-out cars outside of my friends' appartment (which had steel bars in front of the windows) and fights after the pubs closed. I guess it must have gotten a lot better :)

Poor but snappy

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 12:35:

mt and peter make some excellent observations.

but still in my eyes... medellin is the best!! lol

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Simon says on Feb 16, 2008, 12:52:

You're right Mitch, Medellin es una puteria!!

Have you seen pics of the BanColombia headquarters building they're constructing there right now? Que berraquera!!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 14:22:

a donde las puedo ver? no las he visto?

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Simon says on Feb 16, 2008, 14:32:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=408885


Luego vaya a las ultimas paginas del tema para ver como esta quedando.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 14:39:

uy que bacaneria parce. oiste veo que queda junto al metro. pero por donde es eso ome?

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Simon says on Feb 16, 2008, 14:53:

El edificio ve a quedar cerca de El Poblado. Tratare de buscar una foto donde se vea su locacion.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Simon says on Feb 16, 2008, 15:02:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=581221

En la sexta foto hacia abajo se puede ver su ubicacion.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 15:25:

uy muy bacano. voy pa medallo el miercoles. a ver si le tomo foticos.

gracias hermanito

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Simon says on Feb 16, 2008, 15:48:

Fue con mucho gusto, parcero.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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NorwegianMale says on Feb 18, 2008, 06:41:

I liked this one:

Norwegians are effortlessly gorgeous. As my friend Joshua put it as we people-watched in Vigeland Park, "Even the guys considered ugly here are super hot."

:D:D:D

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 18, 2008, 08:26:

No veo porque sea tan de moda cagarse en El Poblado. Toda mi familia en Medellin vive ahí y me parece la PM. Mis familiares en Bogota viven en Los Rosales y El Nogal y ni puel putas se comparan esas áreas con Poblado y los alrededores. Al menos que encuentre algo mejor, ahí pienso comprar un apartamento en el futuro.

Eso si, los Paisas si son un poquito inmamables en cuanto al tema. Si, Medellin es una bonita ciudad, pero ya dejen tanta carreta que cansan.

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 08:28:

parce pero usted esta hablando bien o mal de medellin? o la pelea es con los paisas? vos de donde sos pues?

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 18, 2008, 08:33:

Cual pelea? No se ponga defensivo. Acabo de decir que el Poblado es mejor que las mejores áreas de Bogota y que pienso comprar ahí un apartamento. Pero el regionalismo tan extremo de los Paisas puede ser canson.

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Monpirri says on Feb 18, 2008, 08:41:

"Eso si, los Paisas si son un poquito inmamables en cuanto al tema. Si, Medellin es una bonita ciudad, pero ya dejen tanta carreta que cansan."
Estoy de acuerdo y quiero agregar que los paisas que yo he conocido aqui no saben o no le gusta promover la cultura de Colombia solo les gusta hablar de viejas.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 10:18:

primero que todo crea que generalizar es muy fea e injusto.

segundo, yo quiero y respeto a todo el mundo igualmente y cuando hablo de lo mio digo muchas cosas charlando. uno dice cosas por hablar ome... no lo tome tan serio. pero gente y lugares bonitos los hay por todas partes.

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 10:21:

monpirri no todos los paisas somos iguales. cuando quiera hablamos de cultura. pero si hablo de mujeres cual es el problema pues? vos sos muy pelion jaja

esto es un sitio donde se dan differentes conversaciones...... pues se tiene que dar tema pa que la gente hable. yo a veces hablo cosas serias cuando son interesantes pero cuando estoy por charlar pues hablo de mis passiones que son el futbol, las mujeres, y la rumba.

pero ya deje de criticarme ome.... me voy que tengo que empacar las maletas.

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gatogris says on Feb 18, 2008, 10:55:

The clearest sign to me that Medallo has a ways to go is the overcompensation of the locals - is it really necessary for every conversation to contain a blatant, over-the-top exaggerated diatribe of Medillin boosterism? I realize the city (and for that matter the country) has really gotten a raw deal form the press, especially internationally, but for how long will every foreigner have to assuage the fragile egos and stroke the civic pride of every paisa encountered?

One thing that will clearly indicate that Medellin has moved on is when the locals themselves have no need to so relentlessly pound the drum of their city's greatness, when they can calmly appreciate the good like everyone else, and even feel comfortable discussing their city's flaws.

Plus, like the Bard and I'm sure plenty of paisas have noticed, boosterism can have the opposite of its intended effect, he had guilty Gertrude see this in the play within the play: "The lady dost protest too much, methinks."

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tomtom33 says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:20:

Gato, that is what is known as regionalismo. It is a well-known characteristic of the Paisas. And they can over do it. But that is how they are.

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gatogris says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:33:

TT, regionalism and civic pride are one thing, the sound of an axe being ground over and over on a grindstone is another. It's shrill and it makes my jaw clench.

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coffee beaner says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:41:

Medellin y Antioquia, el clamor popular de Colombia.... Gracias a dios soy paisa y no rolo!

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Albatross says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:42:

Medellin will recieve a bump in Tourism over the next few years until everyone discovers that it's not really a tourist destination after all. It's not anymore than Olso, Birmingham, Houston, Kansas City, Louisville, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Providence or Sacramento are... unless your definition of "Tourist Destination" is just some city that's not too bad and is outside of you own country.

I like Medellin, but who's gonna flock to a city who's main claims are "Not as dangerous as is was when Escobar was alive" or "The only Metro in South America"... I mean it's not exactly Rio... it's not even Cartegena.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:44:

tomtom33 what happ to the pictures bro? u usually have some fine lady in your pic?

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:45:

"Gracias a dios soy paisa y no rolo!"

Gracias por comprobar lo que decimos del regionalismo de los paisas. En general, me caen bien los paisas, pero eso del regionalismo tan ridiculo es verdaderamente canson y aburridor, o como dicen los Mexicanos... cagante.

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:49:

all of colombia is beautiful!!! but whats the big deal with me loving and talking about the place where i was raised and love???
gatogris where are you from?

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coffee beaner says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:50:

ColombianoGringo es que la verdad duele ;)

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:52:

The problem isn't being proud of your city. The problem is that a lot of Paisas just won't shut up about it and act like it is the only place in Colombia or the rest of the world that is worth a shit.

I really like Medellin and personally find that people are a lot friendlier than those in Bogota(especially Northern Bogota), but the constant blathering about how great Medellin is tends to get old fast. It comes across as overcompensation resulting from insecurity.

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:57:

hey ill agree to disagree.

vea los paisas somos asi y pues la gente lo toma como arrogancia. todo en su extremo es malo. pero la gente de cali habla igual de su region como un parcero de baranquilla o pereira o donde sea.

no lo tome tan serio papa que estamos es charlando.

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 18, 2008, 11:59:

No se preocupe hermano. Nadie esta enojado. Pero yo me voy a almorzar que traigo una hambre la HP. Ve y empaca pa que no se te queden la mitad de las vainas.

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 12:00:

vos de donde sos?

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 18, 2008, 12:02:

Bueno. Nací en Englewood al pie de NYC, pero me crié y vivo en Houston. Pero soy 100% Colombiano, y he ido a Colombia cerca a cien veces en toda la vida. De niño me pasaba todos los veranos y vacaciones de navidad en Bogota, Medellin o Neiva.

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 12:07:

pero tus padres son colombianos? de done?

yo naci en new york so entiendo pues lo de sentirte 100% colombiano.

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tomtom33 says on Feb 18, 2008, 12:17:

Guess you haven't heard about the new rules, Mitch. No chicas.

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Medellin Traveler says on Feb 18, 2008, 14:48:

Albatross says, "Medellin will recieve a bump in Tourism over the next few years until everyone discovers that it's not really a tourist destination after all. It's not anymore than Olso, Birmingham, Houston, Kansas City, Louisville, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Providence or Sacramento are... unless your definition of "Tourist Destination" is just some city that's not too bad and is outside of you own country.

I like Medellin, but who's gonna flock to a city who's main claims are "Not as dangerous as is was when Escobar was alive" or "The only Metro in South America"... I mean it's not exactly Rio... it's not even Cartegena."

Interesting, a very honest assesment of the facts, regardless of how much I love Medellin, them's the facts.

La cuidad de la primavera, estoy feliz porque te vuelvo a ver - www.medellintraveler.com

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Man Tequila says on Feb 18, 2008, 14:50:

I have some Norwegian friends who live in Norway. They all tell me Oslo is a hole and a waste of my time, but that I should go and enjoy the countryside.

Contrast this with people in Colombia, who generally tell you Medellin is a nice city.

And don`t get me started on Brummies, eh, Camps? ;)

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 18, 2008, 14:52:

MedTrav,

I agree. Medellin seems to me to be a nice place to live, but I wouldn't call it a major tourist destination.

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Monpirri says on Feb 18, 2008, 17:30:

Esos paisas si que chillan, he ave maria pues, MitchAlvarez cuando llegues a Medallo invita algunos paisas verracos o con un gran conocimiento de Colombia a Poorbuthappy y que les guste hablar cosas buenas de Colombia y cosas bonitas de Antioquia, pero asegurate que no sean de los que estan vendiendo todos las riquezas a los extranjeros y hazme un favor traeme una paisa bonita y natural que me voy a casar con ella en la ciudad donde yo naci Leticia, Amazonas.

P.D. Que tengas un viaje bien chevere parce.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 18, 2008, 18:08:

tom new rules? i didnt get the memo!

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christobeldawg says on Feb 18, 2008, 23:02:

rubito what's up? I've never been there either but from reading so much about it, I feel I know it better than many cities I have visited. jaja

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 30, 2008, 08:28:

medallo lindo te extraño :(

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webmanco says on May 1, 2008, 06:29:

Mitch I am from Bogotá with relatives "paisas" in Medellín, and thanks "god" not all paisas are like you, well regionalist yes but not as mamones.:-) So do not generalize. Bueno es cilandro pero no culandro.

Medellín is not my cup of tea. Antioquía yes, but the city not at all.

So much regionalins do no service well Colombia, and each city, it divides and that is what you are doing with your profound love to Medellín, wheter Medellín is all you said or not. Bogotá Colombia Rules!

coffee beaner says on Monday February 18th, 2008 11:41:

Medellin y Antioquia, el clamor popular de Colombia.... Gracias a dios soy paisa y no rolo! (think again)

Gracias a Dios soy Colombiano, de los que no desmeritamos coterraneos independientemente de que ciudad, pueblo, vereda o barrio provenga, no importa cuanto dinero tengamos en el banco, ni la bandera que tenga nuestra ciudad, seguiremos siendo Colombianos y hermanos, pero nunca creyendonos los putas, ni los que más alto volamos, la aterrizada podría no ser satisfactoria, porque aquel que escupe hacia arriba, bueno ya saben lo que sucede.

Soy de los colombianos que tampoco desmeritamos a los no nacidos en Colombia pero colombianos al fin y al cabo.

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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robi666 says on May 1, 2008, 08:12:

NoJooooda, no entiendo que es eso hablar de rolo, paisa, pastuso...
Medellin = cachacos
Bogotà = cachacos
Pasto = cachacos

Mitch = cachaco
Simon = cachaco
Webmanco = cachaco
coffee = cachaco
CGringo = cachaco
...

:) Mitch the new Bancolombia building is on the Avenida de Los Industriales, few hundred meters after Homecenter and it is almost done...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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robi666 says on May 1, 2008, 08:19:

Medellin is not a tourism destination, I do agree. It misses a lot of characteristic that make a city a main tourist destination (history, art, beach, etc.).

But could be easily the most underrated city in the world for quality of life, being a resident.
And it is just beautiful.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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elmodefoque says on May 1, 2008, 16:58:

Maybe I’ve been out in the sun (fishing) for too many days, so my following comment may not make any sense, if so, please accept my apologies.
If cachaco cities, Bogotá, Medellin Cali, Pasto, etc. are so great, why is it that 70% of my cachaco brothers are living in Queens and the other 30 % can’t wait to get the fok outta Colombia?
You can’t toss a dead cat into a crowded NYC street with out hitting an arepita con chocolatico loving cachaco in the fokin head.
You have a better chance at wining the mega millions before finding a Barranquillero caminando the streets of Queens or anywhere in the USA.
Please enlighten me.
Thank your!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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slguy says on May 1, 2008, 17:13:

i was wondering how long before elmo chimed in.....jajaja

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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webmanco says on May 1, 2008, 18:09:

If cachaco cities, Bogotá, Medellin Cali, Pasto, etc. are so great, why is it that 70% of my cachaco brothers are living in Queens and the other 30 % can’t wait to get the fok outta Colombia?


Amor de lejos

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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webmanco says on May 1, 2008, 18:34:

There are a few Barranquilleros in NY. And a few migh be on their second and third generations

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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MitchAlvarez says on May 1, 2008, 18:46:

webmanco, rolito avispadito tranquilito papa.

Parce, hasta cali y baranquilla prefiero a bogota. jaja

claro que hay unas rolitas muy hermosas.........tal vez voy solo a vistarlas.

asi como mi muñequita rola por residencia pero caleña de corazon, lauthra.

tan hermosa que es. jaja

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