First time to Colombia

Sam Salmon says on Dec 19, 2004, 21:18:

Flights are cheap and fast.
Cartagena & environs then Medellin with a quick stop in Bogotá near the end of your trip if you feel motivated.


' a la orden!'

' a la orden!'

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suzannyo says on Dec 19, 2004, 21:22:

What's the purpose of your trip? Hey Adam! I just wondered if you're coming for just to travel, to learn/study, to party, or some other reason...that could make a big difference in where you should go.

I'm from the Chicago area too, so I don't have a lot of experience to go on...I've personally only been to Bogota and Cartagena. Bogota is a HUGE city (seems to go on forever), spring-time weather, and known as slightly more aloof socially than Cartagena. Cartagena is more my style, except for the HOT and HUMID climate. Its more like the stereotypical carribean culture...slower paced, more friendly/open socially, great beaches, touristy things to do, etc.

I'm sure others will have more advice coming your way...best of luck. Enjoy yourself and stay safe. :)

Suzanne

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AdaminChicago says on Dec 20, 2004, 04:54:

Reply Suzanne

Actually I just want to relax and take in the culture plus practice my (unfortuantely elementary spainish). I love culture and nature. I am an avid hiker which I would like to spend a day or two doing but I also would just be happy hanging out and soaking up the culture. The Cities that most interest me from what I've read are, Cali, Cartagena, Bogota, Medellin, and Barranquilla so If I could figure out what are the positives and negitives of each that may help me decide.

Thanks all

Adam

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AdaminChicago says on Dec 20, 2004, 04:56:

One more thing.. How long is a bus and or plane trip between Caragena and Barranquilla? They look pretty close on the map?


Adam

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roadrunner says on Dec 20, 2004, 05:02:

roadrunner

Takes approx 1hr 30mins by collectivo (minibus). This is really cheap and costs about $5.

roadrunner

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ColombiaBoard says on Dec 20, 2004, 19:01:

Where to go? Well, you have three weeks so that´s plenty of time. Here are my suggestions:
- Bogota: that´s the place you´ll see first surely, so stay there at least four days, the colonial area (La Candelaria) is full of historic places, museums, good restaurants and just walking all over it is very interesting, don´t miss the Gold Museum. Also, party in the Zona Rosa, go up to Monserrate (don´t hike there though), if you want to see lots of colombians go to one of the large malls (Santa Barbara, Unicentro). Visit Chia and the northern area of Bogota.
- Fly to Medellin (30 minutes, I don´t recommend going by bus): the city is interesting, a medium sized urban center, nice surrounding areas.
- From Medellin fly (20 minutes) or take a bus (3 1/2 hours) to Manizales (coffee region), visit the Nevado del Ruiz Park (go up to 12 thousand feet and see colombian snow...), also visit Pereira and/or Armenia and the Coffee Park.
- By bus (just three hours) go to Cali, along the way enjoy the spectacular scenery. Cali is another interesting city, check the salsa discos.
- Fly to Cartagena (about 2 hours): visit the beautiful old walled city, many interesting places to visit there, then lie on the beach and get tanned...fly back to Bogota and then home.

How´s that for a vacation?

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YEP says on Dec 21, 2004, 03:39:

Any tips on flying internally in Colombia
I read in a thread that there's something like a special package where you can fly to several cities in some kind of pacakage.

Link in english would do (my spanish is non-existant) ;-)

------------------------------------------------------------------- Just another scandinavian getting ready to explore South America

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darkangel says on Dec 24, 2004, 14:38:

How´s that for a vacation?
DAMN sounds good

is that the best order have you done it like that

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trilbaphone says on Apr 1, 2005, 13:04:

Spanish Schools Hi, I am about to arrive in Bogota and want to fine a decent Spanish school. i am looking for somewhere which is professional and personal but also is not to expensive and can off homestays. Any advice would be great. Cheers, Trilbaphone

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itaguifun says on Apr 2, 2005, 20:05:

Alone hiking around Colombia with elementary Spanish?? I would not advise going to Colombia at all for "hiking around". Colombia is a dangerous country, especially for those who are alone and ignorant of the local goings on. Certainly those who go in search of "flora and fauna" are prime targets for kidnapping. I would definately stay away from any bus/taxi travel outside of the city. Guerilla activity has been on the increase and I am certain you do not want to get spanish lessons from them. If you do not know someone or have a contact down there it would be fool hardy to go freewheelin' cross Colombia, you are definately NOT in Kansas anymore.
That being said my personal 2 cents:
Bogota??? why would anyone want to go there? Bad weather, dirty, horrible air pollution, crowded.

Medellin- you can see everything worth seeing in about ummmm 30 minutes. Nice climate, nice people, good food. Not alot to do if you are not a party guy (drinking/chasing women/dancing)

Cali- Same comment as medellin only it has a tropical flair-additionally, guerilla seems REAL active in this area (Valle del Cauca)

Manizales-never been but heard that the Parque Nacional de Cafe is awesome

Cartegena- Now here we go-beaches sun and fun a real vacation place,

Santa Marta- I have never been, Plan on going next trip. I think it could be better than Cartagena

San Andres-Carribean Island, no security concerns, blue water
"ya mon"

Barranquilla-never been but heard it was GROSS-port city, DIRTY
Buenaventura- Same as barranquilla

For the type of trip you describe I would recommend Costa Rica-

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billy_wb says on Apr 2, 2005, 20:35:

hello...... I`m from switzerland, and if u want only relax, then just listen suzanne, itz the best thing, if u have only 3 weeks, cartagena itz wonderful.i love also medellin, u can go the next time to visit all the new friends u will meet this time on the beach.and don`t forget cali,but that will be after medellin.and then one day u also will be able to sing;

"las caleñas con su caminar..........."wow.

bye.bye..bon voyage.

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juanalejo says on Apr 3, 2005, 10:35:

Very Ignorant Comment Itagui I find your comment very ignorant and insulting, if that is your opinion so be it, but the way you put it leaves a lot to be said from somebody who likes travelling around.

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tommytoyz says on Apr 3, 2005, 16:12:

Flights within Colombia Yep,
I looked into that multistage package that has been mentioned here. But what I found was that booking individual legs is cheaper. I'm leaving from Los Angeles tomorrow for 2 weeks in Colombia and have the following itinerary :
BOG/Medellin/San Andres/Cartagena/Bog all for about $400 and on non-stop flights.

Just call Avianca or Aerorepublica to their Bogota reservations centers and you'll get excellent prices, especially 7 days in advance. With Aerorepublica it's almost required to do the call-in thing, as their website does not show all their flights....:

Aerorepublica
Bogota 01157 1 320 9090 -TEL

Avianca
Bog 01157 1 401 3434 - TEL

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 3, 2005, 16:15:

Estoy de acuerdo contigo, Juanalejo.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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ColombianoX says on Apr 3, 2005, 16:39:

I also find this 'Itaguifun' comments very insulting and demeaning.

"Bogota??? why would anyone want to go there? Bad weather, dirty, horrible air pollution, crowded"

The same things could be said about New York, but I would never tell people not to go there!


CX

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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itaguifun says on Apr 3, 2005, 18:04:

Come on comparing Bogota to New York... Guys-thats my opinion, I'm sure you could find someone-ok, people, who like Bogota for whatever reason. What I said was not ignorant, I have been to these places and if I haven't been I said so.


Are you going to argue that Bogota isn't dirty and crowded, and it doesn't have crappy weather and intense air pollution (MUCH worse than New York)?

I guess Barranquilla is clean and a great place to go to the beach just like Buenaventura. I have never been to these 2 places but many Colombians have told me that they are port cities and as such are dirty.

Medellin and Cali-lets cut to the chase, great cities to party and get laid, not much else to do past that, unless you consider cheap food and lodging a reason to go.

Oh I guess I was ignorant in saying it's a dangerous country, that speaks for itself. Sure, it's safe to go hiking around by yourself looking for wildlife.

I'm not sure why you were insulted, perhaps because you are Colombian. I like Colombia, I may one day live there, but that doesn't change facts, or for that matter my opinion. Simply put I don't think Bogota, Medellin and Cali are vacation destinations. Just as I don't think Des Moines, Detroit and Pittsburgh are vacation destinations.

You guys are too sensitive-lighten up.

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Hunter says on Apr 4, 2005, 07:27:

itaguifun I would like to know what you can't do in Medellin that you can do in many other Cities.

The only two things that come to mind is ice skating and skiing.

Hunter

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CLALORENA says on Apr 4, 2005, 07:41:

BAD COMMENTS ITAGUIFAN! Itaguifan! I dont think we Colombian will like some one like you living in our country, as you dont seem to like it at all. So just dont bother going back there. Stay wherever you are. Stop talking BADDLY about us and putting people off.

Clalorenita

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arturo says on Apr 4, 2005, 08:55:

hi adam,

i dont think most of the cities you mentioned are good hiking bases. you should consider the eje cafetero cities. lots of hiking opportunities & very lively cities with very cool people.

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/8155
eric gives interesting info.

from your cities list, i dont like two of them bogota & barranquilla: mainly the weather: nights too cold in the 1st and located in the magdalena dela for the 2nd.

if you re precolombian oriented when you write "culture", you should check desideria's posts, i remember her having provided some interesting info.

good trip.

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2montoyk says on Apr 4, 2005, 08:59:

hola no dout medellin is the best city...then u can go to cartagena or santa marta

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Pitufa says on Apr 4, 2005, 10:48:

.. forget the cities i did not have time to read all comments, but i really recommend that you visit a beautiful colonial town called Villa de Leyva in Boyaca about 3hrs from bogota .. if i remember well. There is also a wonderful little town called Mongui (it's also in the region called Boyaca)
Do not waste all your time in the big cities. They're ok, but there is much more to see in Colombia. You should also go to Parque Tayrona (Santa Marta). It is an amazing place with wonderful beaches, and you can also climb up to Pueblito.....
If you go to Cartagena, do not miss going to Playa Blanca, where you can bathe in the clear waters of the Carribean and nod off to sleep in a hammock underneath the stars!!!
El parque de los Nevados is also pretty amazing, especially if you like hiking. It feels like being on the moon.
There are so so many beautiful places to visit in Colombia. Do not make the mistake of spending too much time in the cities. Enjoy the sea, the mountains and the villages. Trust me, you will never want to go back home! Even though you re going to travel alone, if you stay at the key hostels, you will surely meet up with lots of ppl travelling on their own. Good luck

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CaspinLange says on Apr 5, 2005, 18:34:

Train and bus from US to Columbia Has anyone ever heard of anyone travelling from the US to Columbia by train and bus? Is this a possibility? I've looked many places on the net and it doesn't seem as feasible as one might think? I know it's probably dangerous, so was coming down the birth canal. But is it possible is all I'd like to know? and if so what are possible costs? Any help is greatly appreciated. You can reply to CaspinLange at hotmail.com

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saNcOChO en BolSa says on Apr 20, 2005, 02:44:

u dont know wot u talking about yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa right MR Itaguifan! dis guy, i bet if u go to " MI COLOMBIA" u would not say dat i wish to c you in COLOMBIA saying dat plus if u want a nice holiday just go to " MI EJECAFETERO" GO PEREIRA,MANIZALEZ,LA VIRGINIA and u will c how "hermoso" is my country

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saNcOChO en BolSa says on Apr 20, 2005, 02:47:

Seme olvido and another thing MR Itaguifan!

QUE VIVA MI COLOMBIA PAPA!!!!!

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webmanco says on Apr 20, 2005, 05:40:

Monserrate is not dangerous, 90% of the time it is safe, is a must for a hiker just like Tres Cruces in Cali, or el Peñon in Medellín.

If you are an earlybird go on tuesday or thursday at 5:00 am. If you like to stand out on a big crow then go either satuday or sunday at 7:00 am.


As for a 15 days trip, I would suggest, Bogota, Boyaca,
Nevado del Cocuy at least three days and hiring a guide and a horse so you get to know most of it. Then fly to Cali, then to Medellín and from there to La Costa



Villa de Leyva
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105 Friends of Colombia and colombians all over the world

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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waterboy says on Apr 25, 2005, 09:10:

traveling to colombia in may Hello, I promised my younger brother a trip to colombia as a gift for running in an ulta triathlon with me. We have been training forever and when we are done we just want to go somewhere and drink and be spoiled. Where should I take the little fella? We both speak spanish pretty well and have experience traveling to many other countries in central and south america. We like hot women, scotch, beer, good food and some fun activities like paragliding or something. I was in cartagena a few months back and went diving and took a flying lesson out to some island. (TIP: don't do the flying lesson if it is windy, better yet just don't do it, I had a bungy cord holding the little cessna door closed) From reading the posts It seems like medellin is my kinda place. We don't care much about the beach right now. Can you give me specific advise like hotels or at least neighborhoods. I recall reading soething about el poblado. We are two well behaved guys and we plan to spend some money on food/drink for the local economy. thanks

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Crazy4Cali says on Apr 25, 2005, 09:29:

Why not Costa Rica? There are plenty of hot chicas, scotch, cold beer and other things to do there, and it's a lot cheaper to get to. There are some dynamite river rafting trips available there. I like the Pacuare river, but there are others. Two coasts and every possible climate from cold and rainy to warm and sunny to hot and muggy.

Of course, Costa Rica is not much of a secret so you'll run into lots of tourists, but you know what they say when you call someplace "paradise."

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Suzanne says on May 4, 2005, 08:55:

Leaving for Cali the end of May! Very excited! Going to have some work done there. Can't find a decent priced ticket from Orlando or Miami to Cali. Help! Also have two free free days to tour so can't go too far. Any suggestions in Cali?

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 4, 2005, 10:17:

suzanne, there's not a whole lot of touristy things in Cali to do, especially for us women. I guess idling at Chipichape Mall and looking at young caleñas pass by is out of the question; day trips touring the lovely valley of Cauca outside the city unsafe, driving up the western cordillera towards Buenaventura might be doable, daytime especially. The scenery is beautiful and there are small restaurants that serve hot chocolate and pandebono, some estaderos and clubs too.

Go to the Zoo in Aguacatal, it's within city limits, nice setting and safe. After you visit the zoo you can have some great empanadas and sancocho and other local delicacies at the restaurant Caliviejo. Go and visit the mercado artesanal at San Antonio, just off the Calle Quinta. Finish off the evening at restaurant Tierra Mestiza in San Fernando in front of the Parque Panamericano listening to some great South/Latin American music, often live. That's what I'd do with just two days free in Cali.

Enjoy yourself,
Desi

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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ress81 says on Jul 29, 2005, 19:51:

Question I am going to be flying into Bogota and then catching a plane to Manizales. Any tips? I'm like the person above... I speak almost no Spanish and I have never been to Colombia before... very nervous. Any tips you can send me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time and have a wonderful day

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Crazy4Cali says on Jul 29, 2005, 20:00:

no sweat.... The names, times, and gate numbers are all in english. The gate attendants of the international airlines speak english to varying degrees.

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colombiabuzz says on Jul 30, 2005, 08:53:

ress81 Check your PM, I sent you a message

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miamigringa says on Jul 30, 2005, 16:20:

Is there danger of kidnapping in Cartagena? I am a gringa that lives in Miami. I have always dated hispanic men, but is the first Colombian man I have dated. My current boyfriend is Colombian by birth. He is the most fabulous person I have ever met!! He has lived in America for most of his entire life. He still has family in Colombia that he visits every year. He is going back this year during the holidays and said he would like to take me with him, but said that he fears that it would be too dangerous for me and that I would be kidnapped. He said that my blonde hair and green eyes would make me a target. I speak very good spanish, actually I speak better spanish than he does! He has family in Cartagena & Barranquilla. Can anyone give me an accurate opinion on if it is too dangerous for me to travel with him to Colombia?

Thanks for your help!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 30, 2005, 16:31:

gringa, I think it would be entirely safe for you to travel to Cartagena and Barranquilla with your boyfriend in spite of your blonde hair and green eyes. After all, you'd be there with him and the chances of being kidnapped in Cartagena are really very slim unless you're the daughter of Bill Gates or some international celebrity with tons of money. I don't want to sound mean but the impression I got was that he doesn't want you to go to Colombia with him because he'd rather go there as a single guy.
Cheers,
Desi
(again, sorry to be an aguafiestas)

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 30, 2005, 19:34:

The risks of kidnapping are really minimal for a short-term tourist. I think Desi's on to something.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Crazy4Cali says on Jul 30, 2005, 20:16:

Uh oh. I hope this doesn't turn into a "men are dogs" thread, but this one sounds like he might bark when you're not looking... I mean, why wouldn't a single latino want to take his gringa to a place where there'll be muchas fiestas y chicas, etc....

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spy1984 says on Jul 30, 2005, 23:52:

Itaguifun Please name the last kidnapping in Cali. Hasn't been one in years. Prove me wrong. Please stop your silly agenda driven lies. Gorilla is non-existant there.Show some thread of proof please.

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Chriscraiger says on Aug 10, 2005, 19:54:

hey ok ill be there aug 25th at 6;15 at the medellin airport either 6;15 us time or 6;15 colombia time i dont speak any spanish im going to be in medellin for a couple of months study and party and all if your coming or live there and wanna meet up and show me how to get to a apartment and later on that week check out the clubs bars stuff like that email me back later o im 18 write back

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Chriscraiger says on Aug 10, 2005, 19:56:

taxi how much would a taxi from the medellin airport prob cost to a apartment some where in medellin i wont have the directions till the day i leave

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katygirl says on Aug 15, 2005, 18:37:

FIrst time to Colombia I will be traveling to Medellin and living there for about 2 months, studying Spanish in exchange for giving English lessons at a university there. Needless to say, I am quite apprehensive about the trip, me being a gringa and all, and I'm hoping that someone can give me a little direction in terms of what to expect. I do have a friend that I will be staying with for about 1 week, and he is going to help me find an apartment close to the school (Universidad EAFIT) Can anyone tell me about this school? Is it considered a safe area? I live in NYC, so nothing much shocks me, and I would definitely say that I am street smart, but my Spanish is at an elementary level (will be studying in Peru before I come to Colombia so it should get better). Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcomed! From what to wear (nov-jan) to places to go out to that are relatively safe... etc..

Gracias y mucho gusto!

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BobbyNocevski says on Sep 4, 2005, 20:19:

first time to colombia Hi guys..im from Sydney AUSTRALIA..and visited Colombia in 2004.What a beautiful country.Heaps to do,and the people are just awesome.
Bogota rocks..i loved it.Carta Ghena..is that how u spell it..lol,sorry if it aint,is the best place i have ever been to.
I managed to visit quite a few places and they were all fantastic.The food is great too .
By the way....the best looking women in the world have to be in Colombia..enough said..cheers..Bobby

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supertran says on Sep 29, 2005, 19:00:

First time going to colombia Como estas usted ?!! Estoy de Houston. This will be my first time to cali, colombia. COLOMBIA period !!!! I am very exited to go and I will be going alone by myself. Just curious about the kidnappings? I have a friend down there I will be visiting on November 12-15. Anyone have any advice, any and all comments greatly accepted. I have met a few colombians here in Houston. Thus so far, I have found them refreshing, really kind-hearted and warm. I think i am going to stay at the Intercontintenal CAli hotel. How do I go about renting a car or taxi, I am thinking about getting an international driver license. My spanish is small and not much but I am learning.

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cam0940 says on Sep 29, 2005, 19:34:

I will share my comments/opinions in no particular order:

1) I would stick to taxis for several reasons.
2) It's good that you will be with a friend, but you should continue to work on your Spanish. You never know how well you speak until you HAVE to communicate in the language. You can feel quite deaf, dumb, and vulnerable if you don't speak the local language well.
3) Forget the international driver's license. You don't want to drive in a major Colombian city on your first trip. Seriously. You'll understand this better after your first taxi ride.
4) Don't necessarily believe the hype about kidnapping. Oh sure, you may be mugged or some petty crime as in any major city, but don't think someone's going to pull up on a crowded city street in the middle of the afternoon and stuff you in their trunk. It isn't like that.
5) Not all Colombians are kind-hearted and warm, once you get to know them. You may be treated well there because you may be perceived to be wealthy. Enjoy that beneficial treatment. But do not FEED that perception, because not all Colombians are kind-hearted and warm. Reread #4.

Aside from those very very basics, have as much fun as you possibly can. I really don't have the words to describe how cool it is down there. I just got back this afternoon.

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World Citizen says on Sep 29, 2005, 19:45:

Go to Iguaque, Villa de Leyva If you go to Bogota, go to Villa de Leyva. You can spend a few days and visit the Iguaque Flora and Fauna Sanctuary. There you would be able to have an AMAIZING hiking experience and enjoy the view of the lakes and the Paramo ecosystem... very unique! Villa de Leyva is the only safe place where I would recomend a foreigner to go for a hike. I know a Biologist who knows the area, has a B&B and take people for the hikes with guides and all the required equipment. If you are interested let me know I can try to contact him.

Cheers!

Life is not what one lived, but rather what one remembers, and how it is remembered to tell the tale. (Gabriel Garcia Marquez)

Life is not what one lived, but rather what one remembers, and how it is remembered to tell the tale. (Gabriel Garcia Marquez)

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Prior says on Sep 30, 2005, 07:36:

Parque Nacional Tayrona Hello all. I am currently looking at a possible trip to Colombia in March next year. I am hoping to include in my itinary Parque Nacional Tayrona. However, I have heard stories that Chiggars there are a nightmare, and from what I've heard about them they sound it. Are insect repellants good at detering these nasty creatures?

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litost says on Sep 30, 2005, 12:52:

I spent two days in Parque Tayrona last december, no problems with insects whatsoever... but a repellant is always a good idea.

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-x-emmalie-x- says on Oct 4, 2005, 16:41:

no subject Hello everyone =). I am taking Spanish in school... and we have to do a project on a Spanish speeking country... and i picked Colombia.. for the project i have to 'plan a trip' to Colombia.. and write the places im going to go and what im going to do... does anyone have any good ideas of places and things to do that i should list?

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 4, 2005, 17:04:

For starters, why did you pick Colombia? Was there something about it that interested you? What are the kinds of things you like to do?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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DAVIDJUDAHES says on Oct 6, 2005, 11:59:

A ROMANTIC PLACE TO TAKE MY GIRL FOR DINNER IN CARTAGENA A NICE AND ROMANTIC PLACE WHERE I CAN SWEEP HER OF HER FEET. CARTAGENA. THANK YOU. DAVID

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Lucia Rojas says on Oct 6, 2005, 12:54:

When you get to colombia buy an insect repellent called Nopiquex. They sell it at every tiendita on the coast. Its a little black box with red lettering and it comes in the form of a bar of soap. you dab it in water and spread it on your body.... it doesn't have that awful repellant smell and it is absolutely wonderful.

I think I have very sweet blood because I always have a problem with every insect that bites and itches. Whe I lived in the jungle it was terrible. So i normally start taking Tiamina ( thiamine) a bout a month before I travel. This is part of the Vitamin B group and it helps against mosquitoes. Lack of vitamin B seems to be a connection.
It really helps.

Anotheer thing htat helps is taking some mosquito netting. You can also find it easily on the colombian coast, and they are usually cheap. It is called a chinchorro. If you rent a hammock at tayrona you will have the option to rent mosquito netting, i think, but its better to confirm this if you are interested.

Tayrona is the best place!!!!!!! You will have a wonderful time even if you get bitten....best trick is to not pay attention to the bites. try to forget them and distract yourself with something else. A light long sleeved shirt is good when walking through the monte.

chao

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CaroMiami says on Oct 13, 2005, 09:26:

From Quito to Pasto I am from Cali-Colombia but I'll be fighting to Quito-Ecuador in November I also want to go to Colombia in a road trip from Quito to Pasto. I want to know if they usually ask for any type of ID or documents on the frontier of Ecuador & Colombia. Also if anybody knows where is the best place for me to get the bus in the city of Quito to Pasto and how much the road trip usually is???? Any recommendations I will appreciate…??? I will appreciate them....

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meche640 says on Oct 13, 2005, 13:14:

First time to Colombia in 26 years! Its been 26 years since I've been to Colombia, I know pretty bad but I have a good reason. With school and work quite frankly I haven't had the opportunity something always came up. Now in December I will be returning for the first time visitig relatives since I moved to he U.S. and seeing brothers I haven't seen in over 12 years. I'm extremely excited but are also trying to prepare for the worst. I hear things are pretty tuff down there. My question is this. I was told I need a Colombian passport since I was born in Colombia. I'm a U.S. citizen and have a U.S passport why would I need a Colombian passport. Can someone clarify this for me or direct me to where I can obtain this information. Thanks for your help---Meche

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sonagul says on Oct 14, 2005, 11:08:

Caspin Lange...take a bus I assume you are coming from the North East of US. So trip would be worth the while and a while...
;)

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zuan says on Oct 20, 2005, 13:18:

The Undiscovered colombian city: Bucaramanga Most beautiful City? Bucaramanga
http://www.bucaramangacity.com/fotos/index.php

City with best Nightlife? Bucaramanga
http://www.bucaros.com

Most interesting/beautiful piece of Architecture & Most beautiful small town? Barichara (3 hours in car from Bucaramanga)
http://www.bucaramangacity.com/fotos/index.php?folder=content/Poblaciones%20Vecinas/Barichara/

Best Adventure activity?where?
1. rafting San Gil (2 hours in car from Bucaramanga)
2. Parapenting/Chicamocha Canyon (1 hour in car from Bucaramanga)
http://www.bucaramangacity.com/fotos/index.php?folder=content/Bucaramanga/Chicamocha%20Canyon/

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Rachel Consta says on Oct 23, 2005, 15:30:

Hola Hi,

am about to leave for Colombia and just thought you might have some info on what it is like there for a girl. I am meeting a friend there but will be on my own for part of it. Do you think that is a good idea? I am assuming you are there now, you didn't give an exact date. Also am interested in the spanish courses too.

Anyway would love to hear any advice. Will be there for most of November if you're around.

Rachel

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newbrunswicker says on Oct 24, 2005, 18:12:

Don't Forget To Vist Coffee Park Parque Nacional Del Cafe (Coffee Park) is near the city of Armenia, about a 3 hour drive from Cali. This park is a TREASURE!! Gorgeous mountain views including a Gondola ride over a valley and many interesting exhibits on the history of coffee, even real coffee plants! If you go, make sure to eat at the restaurant / souvenir shop / convenience store across the highway from the park entrance, when I went with my Colombian sweetheart, family and a few friends (who were in Colombia for our wedding in Cali) we went to coffee park and afterward sat in the restaurant with the family who runs and owns it for about two hours, BEST empanadas I have ever had!!!

Newbrunswicker

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newbrunswicker says on Oct 24, 2005, 18:18:

Only one bad thing about visiting Colombia With gorgeous scenery, warm people and culture and interesting cities, the only thing bad in my 4 or 5 trips to Colombia was having to leave!!!! PS: I do happen to live in metro Detroit and obviously you have not visited our many beautifull sights here either, I reccomend you stop relying on the evening news for travel advice and get out and visit more!

Newbrunswicker

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adrimm (Moderator) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 24, 2005, 18:42:

Maybe better to start new threads?!! Zuan, Rachel, and NewBrunswick:

This thread is ancient and you'll all get more responses with a fresh thread for each of your posts each with relevant titles!

To do so go to the top left hand side of the screen, click create content and then select the appropriate forum (friendly talkzone), and go for it.


PS Zuan: your "friendly locals" look somewhat disrobed, a few shots of the uni industrial might have been more realistic. Also let's not forget these delightful treats: Hormigas Culonas, the edible insect Delicacy of Santander.
;)

Adriana

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sanmar10 says on Nov 4, 2005, 21:50:

My husband and I are taking a trip to colombia in February. He is Ecuadorian and I am Colombian. I havent been to Colombia in like 6 years and when I was there (Medellin) I was there to visit family. I want to show my husband the greatness and beuty of our country. Does anyone have any suggestion as to what part of Colombia I should plan on visiting. We are party people, so we would like to hit some great clubs along with a nice beach. A friend of mine told me of a club called Mangos in Medellin. Does anyone know anything about it?
Would San Andres or Santa Marta be a good place to visit?

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platano says on Nov 4, 2005, 22:03:

If you go to Leticia, don't miss the public library! Leticia has one of the best public libraries in Colombia. The public library in Leticia is fantastic! I was in awe the first time I walked into it! Frankly I never expected to find such a big library in the middle of the Amazon region, but Colombia is full of wonderful surprises! (the best surprise of all are the Colombian people... Colombian librarians are wonderful!)

The Leticia Public Library is a large space, very modern, and a very busy place, almost crowded! They have a children's room for storytelling, community and cultural information and reference services. The collection is ample and well-maintained. The library was originally donated by Banco de la República. It was founded in 1986. The southern region coordinating library for acquisition of the audiovisual collection is in Pasto, Nariño. The Leticia public library is also part of the "Fondo Bibliografico Regional".

The official name of the library is: BIBLIOTECA PUBLICA AREA CULTURAL BANCO DE LA REPUBLICA and it is located at Carrera 11 entre Calles 9 y 10. If you want to call the phone numbers are: 981927729, 27783, 27612 but if you go during the hours of operation, from 8-12 in the morning and from 2 to 8 in the afternoon/evening, you won't have any problem.

Spend time seeing the sights (and getting mosquito bites) in Leticia, but, if you can stay longer, spend time in the public library of Leticia. It is a beautiful experience!

By the way, the public library is not the only library in Leticia. There is also a library at el kilometer 2 vía Tarapacá that is part of Leticia campus of La Universidad Nacional.

Enjoy!

Plátano X
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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cdn says on Nov 4, 2005, 22:41:

Wow! I would like to donate, but my collection of Dsnielle Steele novels (from a prvious relationship) might not cut it. It might be better to start a charity. Actually, it's not hard to do. But, that would be a Peter thing. Peter, are ya listnin?

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nicvel says on Nov 9, 2005, 09:13:

Providencia Well, the most beautifull spot in Colombia is actually far from the mainland. It is called Providencia and it is an Island in the caribean where you won't find any security issues, any language issues (everyone speaks english, as it is is second mother tongue) and any horrible vallenatos. The beaches are great, the food is great, the people are even more kind than mainland colombians.

To go to Providenci usually you have to get to San Andres Island first then take a plane or a boat, but most travel agencies just will get yu the plane option.

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snuff69101 says on Nov 9, 2005, 12:06:

a HI,
My name is scott and im australian who has lived in peru lima for the past 6 months. Im a travelling to medellin in 1 week and have decided to stay in el poblado as a friend has recommended this area. My questions are concerning the dangers of discos and bars. Im curious as to the element of safety from returning from these places at early hours of the mornings. I have travelled many places in latin america ecuador, el salvador, panama, chile and only encountered problems in el salvador. where i was robbed by 2 men of a gang, frightening experience cosidering i had nothing on me at the time to give them. I find living in peru i have had no problems due to taking precautions. Any advise you can give me to a person travelling to colombia for the first time would be appreciated. I travelled to la isla de San Andres and many people reccomended for me to visit this part of colombia until then i never had know desire.

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ysineriz says on Dec 8, 2005, 19:15:

Twenty something scene in Bogota ?? I'm 25 and going to Colombia to visit relatives for the first time. I'll be in Bogota for the first two weeks in January and want to meet twenty somethings interested in partying. I have a few cousins, whom I've never met, but in case they can't show me a good time, I'd thought I'd reach out to you all.

So, where does a guy like me who is interested in techno, hip-hop, and musica caribena go to have a good time? Is there a website or newspaper I should look at for trendy spots?

Any twenty somethings out there wanna meet up to party?

-VA kid

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herbmanforever says on Dec 12, 2005, 17:04:

COLOMBIA HERE I COME Listen i have heard some fucked up shit about colombia in the past but by chance i somehow came accross this website tonight and i have decided to head out there asap as im on a gap year. Would anyone care to talk me through the whole process as im heading out there on my own and i would like someone to hook me up with the right areas and places to be to meet fellow travellers , the place sounds fuckin brilliant so please help me get there quicker with the right advice.

HERBMANFOREVER says colombia fuckin rocks

HERBMANFOREVER

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aztec says on Dec 13, 2005, 04:55:

herbmanforever Search this site. Carefully phrase your question and you will find valuable information. Just remember some of the information has been provided by people who have never been in Colombia.

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herbmanforever says on Dec 13, 2005, 07:03:

SMOKING WEED Is there anyone out there interested in hooking up and heading through colombia travelling together, smoke weed and get laid .

whats the situation getting good weed and at what cost

HERBMANFOREVER

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herbmanforever says on Dec 13, 2005, 07:53:

GETTING A TEACHING JOB Just thinking about teaching english , im on a gap year at the minute, and when i return home i will be in my last year of law school . Although i have no qualifications at the minute what are my chances of getting a english teaching job , just to supplement my travels.

HERBMANFOREVER

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 13, 2005, 08:00:

So what do you think, Colombiche? Is Colombia an ideal travel destination for gringoes who want to get stoned and get laid? You may come around to my point of view that any gringo without a family connection should stay the hell out of Colombia.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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quindioman says on Dec 14, 2005, 22:30:

herbmanforever as a reformed cannabis smoker I can tell you that not even in my ganja smoking days would the idea of travelling Colombia smoking weed would have appealed to me...the stuff certainly grows there however please dispel any notion that you could walk down the street puffing on a doobie and enjoying the sights....the lowest of the low in Colombia is a marihuanero...believe me I know. I can also tell you that you would need to be pretty well connected to buy the stuff 'cause it's sold in the poor barrios (huecos) where a foreigner like you would come out butt naked (if you lucky)...as for getting laid mind you don't catch gonnorea.....i would follow rocinante's advice.....

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simbo says on Dec 23, 2005, 21:15:

Place to Stay Near Airport in Bogota? I will arrive by plane to Bogota at about 930 pm, and will depart the following morning to Cartagena. Could someone advise me where to stay for the night, and how to get there? I am looking to stay at an *inexpensive* place, so long as it is fairly safe. Please private message me if you can. Thank you!

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vegaschic says on Jan 22, 2006, 14:31:

Size Conversion I need to convert colombian size clothing to american? I have tried onlineconversion.com, however the measures listed don't fit with the ones I need. Can you help? I'm living for B/quilla in 2 weeks.



“The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those that look on and do nothing.”

“The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those that look on and do nothing.”

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BaitedAphrodite says on Feb 4, 2006, 13:31:

Stuff for Locales? Hi,

My boyfriend and I will be travelling to Cartegena for a week close to the end of Feb. Im wondering if its appropriate to being stuff from Canada to give to the locales? Stuff like candy, personal hygeine items, school supplies etc. I have never been to South America before and I definitely don't want to insult someone by giving them a personal items etc, and I also don't want to bring stuff with me that they already have and don't need. Any suggestions on the matter would be helpful. Also, I have heard that the locales are super friendly, but do they swarm westerners in hopes of getting money etc?

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nena_cgena says on Feb 4, 2006, 21:24:

Have fun in Cartagena! I travel to Cartagena often, we have a house there and I have lots of family there so this info is pretty accurate: Cartageneros love tourists - they like Italians, Canadians, Europeans and Americans. Receiving gifts from these places is appreciated... it has become a joke though, when Americans (like myself) bring gifts, they say "made in China"... hehe. Your ideas of candy, personal hygienne items and school supplies are all good ideas. Especially if they actually say "made in Canada". If you are bringing gifts to family/friends and know sizes... clothing is very expensive in Cartagena, so jeans and athletic shoes are great gifts... but shampoos, perfumes (they love Victorias Secret body sprays!) and yummies like this are greatly liked with women. The people in Cartagena are very friendly especially if you are a tourist. Don't be surprised but people will beg for small change, just as in any city where there is poverty. Children, young men, old folk alike. With children, if you start handing out change you will be swarmed. Be subtle if you want to give them change. If you don't want to be bothered, be stern but respectful and say NO TENGO MONEDAS (I don't have any change). Making eye contact and smiling to vendors or others who might want to sell to you is usually an invitation to approach you. Cartageneros have a huge respect and appreciation of tourists because they love their city and want foreignors to love it too. They also know that without tourism, many would be without work.
It's one of my favorite places on earth, magical and romantic. Even just a week and your life is not the same... I LOVE CARTAGENA de INDIAS!

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nena_cgena says on Feb 4, 2006, 21:30:

GIFTS Thinking more about it, the gifts are appropriate for people you may be visiting or as a thank you for those who might be helping you or you might be staying with... handing out gifts to random locals would just be seen as weird. Although you think it may be 3rd world, they have pretty much everything we have here... sometimes just harder to find and much more expensive.

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nena_cgena says on Feb 4, 2006, 21:35:

great post newbrunswicker! love it! hehe. An American who thinks outside of the media... wow. It is true people, life exists beyond our borders... have fun and discover the beautiful countries of the world. I LOVE CARTAGENA,COLOMBIA - EVERYONE MUST GO AT LEAST ONCE, YOU WON'T WANT TO LEAVE! The most romantic and magical city I've ever been!

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nena_cgena says on Feb 4, 2006, 21:36:

CARTAGENA! NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!

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nena_cgena says on Feb 4, 2006, 21:49:

GRINGA, DID YOU GO? Although this post was written 7 months ago.... I'm curious if you went to Colombia and what you thought. If you have not yet gone, please know that Cartagena is probably the safest city in Colombia, tons of tourists - Europeans, Canadians, Italians, Americans... blonde hair and light colored eyes is not uncommon, especially since Colombians can be true blonds with light eyes. You would stand out more just because you are foreign, regardless of your hair and eye color. All foreignors stick out. Barranquilla is considered safe as well. I'm surprised your boyfriend would have even brought up the subject of kidnapping... that's stupid. Here's a tip, if you are the daughter of a wealthy oil-company executive , don't go backpacking alone in the rural mountains of Colombia... that's the shiht you would need to be concerned about.

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BaitedAphrodite says on Feb 5, 2006, 13:01:

Thanks & Where to party? Thanks for the kind responses - your advice on the items to bring has been very helpful.

Now ... We are staying at a resort but i plan on getting into the actual city to have some serious fun - where do you all suggest to go for a night of clubbing?

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topshii says on Mar 12, 2006, 19:11:

to be there and schooling there I WISH I COULD GET TO YOUR COUNTRY COLOMBIA AND COMTINUE MY SCHOOLING DUE TO THE FACT THAT I'M NOW CURRENTLY IN ONE OF THE AFRICAN'S LIVED. BUT I AM BLAMING MY SELF BEEN BORN TO THE AFRICA,I WILL BE VERY MUCH INTEREST IF YOU CAN RENDER ASSISTANCE TO ME TO COME OVERTHERE AND COUNTRY MY STUDIES.I WILL BE HOPING TO HEAR FROM U.THANKS

AKANBI

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topshii says on Mar 12, 2006, 19:19:

COMING THERE I WILL BE VERY MUCH INTEREST IN COMING TO YOUS COUNTRY, I'M A NIGERIAN FROM ONE OF THE AFRICA'I WILL LIKETO BE THERE IN CONTINUATION OF STUDIES IF YOU CAN RENDER THE ASSITIANCE THANKS

AKANBI

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Silvia Goodman says on Mar 19, 2006, 12:59:

Hi Guys I live in NY, I am going to Medellin at the end of this year. I was wondering what is the best hotel to go to, I like to exercise and shop and also love good food. Please let me know. Thanks you! Silvia.

Hi Guys, I am going to Medellin at the end of this year. I was wondering what is the best hotel to go to, I like to exercise and shop and also love good food. Please let me know.

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Silvia Goodman says on Mar 19, 2006, 13:01:

Planning a trip to Medellin!! Hi Guys, I am going to Medellin at the end of this year. I was wondering what is the best hotel to go to, I like to exercise and shop and also love good food. Please let me know.

Hi Guys, I am going to Medellin at the end of this year. I was wondering what is the best hotel to go to, I like to exercise and shop and also love good food. Please let me know.

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arizona kid says on Mar 21, 2006, 08:54:

First time Going to Colombia Planning on going to Colombia to relax for the summer because have been a prison computacion professor in Bolivia for the past 8 months. Just going to enjoy myself. I could give two hoots about sites to see I think i would just like to drink beer all day on the beach What is Better Cartegena or Santa Marta. Being someone who enjoys the party would i really be missing out not going to Cali or Medi??? Please advise because I have no idea what to do and will have 2 months to spend in Colombia

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mscampini says on Mar 21, 2006, 10:19:

Posted in wrong area

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carotp says on Mar 24, 2006, 14:30:

because of people like you is why we have such a bad image in the exterior....why you have to say something about a theme you hardly know....bogota is a great city, have a nice cold weather, it can be a little insequre is you don't know where you are going, is just a big city....but you could see a little of everything, good places to hang out...well barranquilla, kind of hot, but with breeze...is a great city if you know where to go...is not at all gross, better than many cities the thing is that is not as turistic as Cartagena, or Santa Marta, to live is a great city, good and friendly people, and please don't say that is as buenaventura. visit it first and then you make comments...

There's nothing better than wine and sunsets.

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calipro says on Mar 28, 2006, 12:31:

phoenix You don't sound snobby just a little uninformed.

There are some country clubs in the south that have both golf and tennis. But you'd be the first guy I met that wasted his days in Cali chasing balls instead of women. jajaja!

Yes you can go out with women here even in the day.

Pasty does have a nice place. I'd give him a call just so he can clue you in.

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mscampini says on Apr 19, 2006, 10:40:

Cali in May Heading down to Cali mid May for a friends wedding. I'm excited as all hell to visit Colombia! I have a list of sites I'm gonna see and my dancing shoes ready to go but i was wondering if there was anything special or out of the ordinary going on between the 15th and the 21st.

Thanks! ~ Mel

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diams says on Apr 20, 2006, 23:16:

trip to Co hi all
i setup my first trip in colombia in july
i would like to see cali and the coast
would like to pass 2 week and good time
it is a good period july
this forum learns me much about colombia
much information is doubtful on internet and media
I try to take the good , good idea peter ,you from belgium!?
moi aussi...:) , I am open for your feedback and your experiments
colombia rocks!

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acauthonsmith says on Apr 29, 2006, 06:45:

Hotel reservations in Cartagena I am going to Cartagena in July to study and I've been furiously planning my trip. Both of the hotels where I'm staying have asked me for either 50% or all of my lodging costs in advance. Is this normal and safe to send my credit card info to them via fax?

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darianawilfred says on Jun 6, 2006, 07:21:

I will be in Bogota for 3 weeks in August Hi everybody!
I'm travelling alone to Bogota for 3 weeks.
I must be in Bogota, I could not be in other cities, so, I would like to know what can I do in Bogota that couldn't be dangerours(I'm a woman alone). I would like to met also people!
I'm spanish. My english is not very good as you can see!
Ciao,
Dariana

Dariana

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kdewell says on Jul 9, 2006, 10:27:

Just Returned from a 5 week vaca in Cali hi, i just returned from my first visit to cali colombia. i had the most amazing time while i was there. i am 18 years old and went alone, but stayed with friends while i was there. i dont speak a word of spanish, but my host sister speaks english and i was always with her. my parents were not happy about my trip when i first informed them that i was going, but as of returning safely and with no problems, they are thinking about joining me next time. i really have to say that the majority of the news and media that you hear about colombia is only the bad things. every country has its downside, and it just happens to be the only thing that is broadcasted. colombia has many interesting cultural and economical aspects to it, and i would have missed out on visiting an amazing country, had i not gone.

oh. Cali is a great city to visit. there are tons of things to do and see.
i also suggest for teenagers and young adults to travel to San Andres if they have a chance. it really caters to the young life kind of ways. with clubs and bars and shopping. we went with 3 of my friends, and it was a blast.
cartajena might be a better place for more of a educational and fun trip, where as San Andres is all fun.

just some suggestions.

<3 whitney

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colombianaporsiempre says on Aug 16, 2006, 19:40:

For the travelers I would really recommend going to Ibague, It's beautiful ans SAFE..

Do NOT go to cali, i watch the news and the guerrilla is over there...

anyways... that's all..... and HAVE FUN!!!

PS: i love to hear people saying that Colombia is Awesome!!! that tells that not all the people think that we are a bunch druggies!

BYE, and have a nice trip!

Colombiana 100%

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fidelxxx says on Oct 23, 2006, 21:16:

Visitin Bogota first time no spanish Hi there,

I am planning to fly into Bogota mid November, kinda just for the hell of it (and to meet someone off the internet) and to visit for a week. But now I am kinda scared. My columbian friend here in the US just told me it is not safe and I should go w/ someone who speaks spanish. Am I in for some fun or should I just be worrying about this trip?

Any nice hotel recommendations?

thanks a worried American traveler.

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 24, 2006, 09:09:

Colombia not safe?? "My columbian friend here in the US just told me it is not safe"

Really? I just cannot believe a Colombian would tell you Colombia is not safe. After all, what does he know?

Anyway, you have come to the right place for sound advise. Here you will find a bunch of Gringos (I'm a US citizen, Colombian born)who have dated or are dating or...."play date", that will tell you how safe Colombia is. I am glad they told me how safe it is. And to think all along I have been relying on those silly US State Department Travel Advisories. Like this one:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_941.html

Shame on the US govenrment for being a bunch of scare mongers. All they need to tell people is to:

"watch where they are going."

If only the few on this forum that have been kidnapped would have followed that advise, they probably never would have been kidnapped. I'm telling you, those in the travel industry, and at the State Department should really be ashamed of themselves for not being fair about their assesment of the security situation in Colombia. They just don't have a clue of what they are talking about.

ON the other hand, the Gringos here, and some of the Colombians too, if I may add, (yea my fellow Colombian citizens who are in denial) will give you the green light. Simple platitudes will do.

One suggestion. If you research this site, you will find advise until the cows (and the horses) come home as to how secure or insecure Colombia is. As far as how reliable the advise is......well, you take a guess at how accurate it is going to be when almost everyone here has some attachment to Colombia for one reason or another. In other words, if you want to know how safe Colombia is or is not, this site is of NO help to you, because with the exception of myself and a few others, you will never get an honest view from the majority of people here. In fact, most people who take my postion, come and go fairly quickly, because most people on this site think Colombia is like a mecca, or paradise. As a result, as to the people who think contrary to the way they do...they just get all bombastic and run them off this board, whild moderation just looks the other way.

Bottom line: There is no objectivity here. If you really want to know about the safety (safetly and Colombia are a oxymoron) you need to consult more objective sites, and not the "Go Go Colombia" people here. These people are so one sided that even if they took off the rose colored glasses, they are so blinded by the tint of the glasses, that they still could not tell night from day.

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fidelxxx says on Oct 24, 2006, 18:05:

still worried well i am just worried because i speak no spanish

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laguerejaloka says on Oct 24, 2006, 18:51:

x-emmalie-x, scroll up to see your answers!!! the whole conversation is about places to go and things to do!!
*la guera mas latina*

~la guera~

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laguerejaloka says on Oct 24, 2006, 18:52:

x-emmalie-x, scroll up to see your answers!!! the whole conversation is about places to go and things to do!!
*la guera mas latina*

~la guera~

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johnarizona says on Oct 24, 2006, 23:24:

take taxis why drive????????, nothing good can come from it. be careful who you befriend, i found many people that latch onto you and milk you for free meals, drinks everything you can think of.

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juancegomez says on Oct 25, 2006, 11:46:

Take off both kinds of glasses, I'd say That goes for both the rose and black colored ones.

Colombia's not the safest place in the world, and most likely it'll be more potentially dangerous than your standard first world nation, but it's still safe enough for many people to live, visit and even have children here. It's not the End of the World.

You are not going to die or be immediately kidnapped here, most likely, but there's still a chance that something bad will happen, even if it's just a simple street robbery. It can also be much worse, of course, but common crimes are far more frequent than the more exotic kinds.

You can reduce that chance as much as possible, by taking precautions, but you'll never eliminate it completely, and you should be aware of that. Read up on the risks, but also on the measures that you can use in order to raise your safety level. Other than that, it's all up to luck.

You'll probably have a good time, but nobody can swear that you will, especially if you don't take the time to research both the good and bad aspects of Colombia.

That's all I have to say, pretty much.

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colombian111 says on Oct 25, 2006, 12:35:

emmalie good luck mamita .

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michaelmcdade says on Dec 26, 2006, 16:19:

hi silvia! I have been to Medellin before and i am looking for a travel companion. Did you go yet? I used to live in NY where are you from?

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