First Time to Barranquilla (Meet Future Wife)

big kugz says on Sep 21, 2005, 14:11:

fool have you done any research about foolish gringos that marry colombianas half their age??? A good person/WOMAN (colombiana or not) will marry someone for love, not for a meal ticket. Yeah she might really be in love with someone way older that she met only several months ago... OR you both may have the wrong reasons to get married and end up miserable!!! Sorry if I sound rude, but I'm only being honest. Good luck.

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MyWave says on Sep 21, 2005, 14:15:

Be Rude I enjoy this input friend. I am pleased with your input.... I have seen pretty legs before and a nice shirt. I will go to meet her, yet it is the experience more for me. I will see soon.....

Thanks....

MyWave

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aztec says on Sep 21, 2005, 14:16:

My advice is ... ...simply slow down. You have plenty of time. Why not spend some time getting to know the Country and the people. Go and spend a week or more in Colombia.

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MyWave says on Sep 21, 2005, 14:18:

Future Wife I am going slow, yet it is interesting..... Thanks for the feed back...

MyWave

MyWave

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MyWave says on Sep 21, 2005, 14:45:

Outstanding reply. You may say I am a old dogg. The 200.00 bucks was not a issue for me. I am not rich(rich is seven difits for me) but I mske a upper middle class living. It felt better to help the woman out. Perhaps I am paying for a tour guide once I arrive in Barranquilla. I speak very little spanish and she speak english okay. Your reply was the best yet.. It fit my line of thinling.....

Thanks again

MyWAVE

MyWave

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MyWave says on Sep 21, 2005, 14:45:

Outstanding reply. You may say I am a old dogg. The 200.00 bucks was not a issue for me. I am not rich(rich is seven difits for me) but I mske a upper middle class living. It felt better to help the woman out. Perhaps I am paying for a tour guide once I arrive in Barranquilla. I speak very little spanish and she speak english okay. Your reply was the best yet.. It fit my line of thinling.....

Thanks again

MyWAVE

MyWave

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toneloc24 says on Sep 21, 2005, 15:08:

And another one of these threads? Try the Search button, first. This has been covered infinitely. While GIB offered sound advice, which I doubt you'll heed nonetheless, if you did a search on this site, you'll see his advice is pretty common here.

I'll just speak to these points then sit back and laugh as the ladies (Desi, BXUnika, ect.) from the site bash the hell out of you. Hopefully, the moderators will save you and delete or close the thread.

- You really need to learn a lot more about Colombia for yourself before even entering thoughts into your head like "WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE COLOMBIAN MALE" or "Meet Future Wife" or "I see from the internet and phone calls she seem to be loyal." - You obviously know nothing about this game.

- "Are all the women from Colombia in so bad a shape that after three months they seem to or want to fall in love with a non-Colombian male." Simple answer to this is no, they are not in such bad shape.

- "I speak very little spanish and she speak english okay." Man, are you asking for it.

- "I have done a little research over the last two years and I have found the age difference in more common then I believed it could be." - It's not that common, but does occur. Some older Colombians eventually marry drastically younger. However, most of them just pay to keep the younger chicas on retainer. More common is the heartache and anger and other headaches (financial/legal) of gringoes after discovering that they're being played by these ladies. What's so funny to me about it is their game is so simplistic.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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BAQ says on Sep 21, 2005, 15:10:

Sounds like you have $$$$ Well, sounds like you have $$$, so why not fly down, see how things go and take it from there.

I live here in baranquilla and from what you say, sounds like she is being honest in what she says. UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN HERE TO SEE IT FOR YOURSELF, there is no way you will "Understand" how some of these people live. Things that you and I take for granted, people here CHARISH.

As far as sending money, I did it all the time with my wife before we were married. Some people here get their shorts in a knot about sending money but I don;t have a problem with it. To each his own, if you can afford it and it makes you feel better to help her out, DO IT. If you don;t feel comfortable then don;t. But I will say this, IF you are considering marriage, why would you NOT want to help your future wife out now?

Semper Fidelis !

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 21, 2005, 15:11:

Put Google to work for you as you're certainly not the first person to "discover" this phenomena (23yo colombianas ready to marry you in 3 months or less if you're already sending money).

Search through the archives as this topic has been discussed at GREAT lengths (much to the annoyance of some visitors).

Bottom line, take it slow, but enjoy the ride.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 21, 2005, 15:12:

In a worst case scenario, she gets her green card and you get a couple of years of....well, you know. If I were you I would make sure she has independent legal advice and signs a pre-nup.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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tomtom33 says on Sep 21, 2005, 15:22:

UC Did you have a pre-nup?

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caslug says on Sep 21, 2005, 15:25:

i think BX and Desi need to chime in...LOL! Mr. Wave, if you like to throw money around COL(or anyone) will readily accept it. AT least try to get something in return, tour guide, bed buddy, whatever. Because if you learn anythin in COl, is that there's ALWAYS a choice, so if one girl is too much trouble you can meet another one, EASILY!

I will say keep doing it if it makes you happy. Afterall, i rather gringo have a repuation as being generous & blind then being cheap. The chicas will never know which gringos they meet will be Mr. sugardaddy, then they'll have to give ALL gringos the benefit of the doubt. Generous guys like you help pave the way for the rest of us poor, but happy gringos! LOL!

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creamontop says on Sep 21, 2005, 15:35:

Do not get a hangover I know your situation. I have been through such a stage myself with an Asian flower. I have learned my lesson. Compassion may help yourself, but it does not buy her love pawl. ;-) Consider them in pretty good shape. (23 is not a facelift age). so her looks, her attitudes and everything surrounding this can be a stealing value for you compared to your own age. Nevertheless, future in the States is better as it is (for the moment) in a country like Colombia. And every woman only has the same primary goals in life.
It is called financial security : for her offspring and herself. So maybe this sounds rude but we all know, guys like Donald Trump, or other Big shot money packers have the benefit in such situations. They can get any girl they want. Because of this sole institutional knowledge that money means power. Sure you are not D.Trump. But sending 200 US at glance to an ex working girl in colombia means close to a total month pay for some of them. At least 25 % of a monthly wage. Does any bell rings ?

For your own sake (like told before) keep both feet on the ground. Even when you found in her the true next love in your life. The chances exists once you bring her into the States her eyes will open as she sees the opportunity to find someone else closer to her age. Drop you like a stone and start all over with another dude.

One more thing. There is a lot of difference in ages once they surpass the 27 age barrier. Most crazyness is out of their brains. Those chica's are more to the point and down to earth. 23 is pretty young in my opinion. I would not recommend this for a long term relation with a 48 year old male. But who am I. This is my first post on this board. Nevertheless I have "some" life knowledge, and my experiences with foreign ladies. The most important thing is : keep your money in your pocket for the moment you meet in real life.
Ever heard of scams ?
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yo me puse tengo un guayabo ahora, yo seguro hace cuando estoy en Colombia

yo me puse tengo un guayabo ahora, yo seguro hace cuando estoy en Colombia

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2005, 16:03:

i only got 5 minutes on line, my wife, 20 years younger, went downstairs to pick up my "geritol"
I don't think i'll be around for the bloody mess, but wait until desi and bx get their hands on this guy. they are going to rip this dude a brand new asshole, with their teeth.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 21, 2005, 16:06:

This brings to mind.. The final lines of Apocalypse Now ...

The horror....The horror....

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caslug says on Sep 21, 2005, 16:17:

well maybe what will save you Mr. Wave.. is AT LEAST your virtual GF is NOT 18! She's 5 yrs older at 23! Hopefully desi/bx will take that into account. I hope you're have all your hair and no bulging wastline or else the gloves will come off. They are VERY against fat, bald gringos dating 18 yr COL chicas.
Hopefully you wont fit their target profile..

But i'm making some popcorn for the show tonight! And they say TV is violent! LOL!

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 21, 2005, 16:23:

No, tomtom, I do not have a pre-nup. However, when I married my wife, she was a 42 year old widow with three kids. There was absolutely no chance she was going to come here and promptly run off once she got her green card. We've been married two years and she still worships the ground I walk on.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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MyWave says on Sep 21, 2005, 17:08:

I wish to thank the positive response from most of you, except perhaps CASLUG... Sir you seem to have internal issue to overcome. You have claims of me throwing money around Colombia. This was my first experience so I wanted feed back good and bad. I did get this from most of the bright user on this site. Yet you seem to have a issue with me making money. Now i am far from Mr D. A man I admire and we share the same field of interest. Yet saying it makes it hard on you and people like you makes me think you have finance issue and you wish to you my forum to ease your pain. Perhaps you need to speak to someone about a more pro-active response with your finances. 200.00 to share with a person who may be in need or not is not a issue with me. You are not aware I sent 7,500 to the Red Cross for New Orlean to help with the cause. Yes it is tax dedution for me, but guess what buddy. I got the same pleasure in helping someone with 200.00 bucks. As you see my mind set is different then yours sir.

You have a very good life sir...... C A S L U G

MyWave

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MyWave says on Sep 21, 2005, 17:16:

Creamontop Thank you sir for the sound advice. I see you are a pathfinder and have lived this issue before me sir. Thank you very much for your input and I will take it to heart your wise opinion on my issue........ Perhaps you can give Caslug some advice on how to manage his affairs....

Thank you again sir...... Creamontop

MyWave

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MyWave says on Sep 21, 2005, 17:19:

Utopiacowboy... Thank you sir for your input... I do not think your wife will leave either... God Bless you and your family and good luck to you sir......

Thank you....

MyWave

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cam0940 says on Sep 21, 2005, 17:45:

Poor MyWave.

The saddest part of this thread is that I don't know if any male PBHers have it in them to muster an umpteenth defense when the bullets start flying.

Before that happens, I did want to mention that I was in the barber shop today thumbing through a magazine and saw that Catherine Zeta-Jones, fine as she is, is 36 and her husband Michael Douglas is 60. So it can happen, Catherine surely doesn't need a Sugar Daddy.

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caslug says on Sep 21, 2005, 17:47:

Mr. Wave..I apologize if you thought i was attacking you.. You've been a memeber for a short time, in the past month there have been many threads about gringos/foreign boyfriend sending money to gals in COL or older gringos males going to COL to hook up with young chicas. Those cause quite a controversy on this board..

Check out his thread..

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/13153

So my primary comment was to WARN you that your thread is going to be either a) delete by the moderator, b) locked by the moderator, or c) get flamed by some members that disagree with what you're doing.

Personally, i think you or ANYONE should have NO PROBLEM doing ANYTHING you want, giving money, not giving money, chasing young chicas, or chicos, whatever. My attitude is live and let live. That said, since you havent not been to COL and you're asking questions like..

"Are all the women from Colombia in so bad a shape that after three months they seem to or want to fall in love with a non-Colombian male."

In COL you'll find AS a foriegner(fr USA), many perceived you(we) have money to burn. You have to realize that 60% live in poverty, jobs are very hard to come by, minimum wage is 200USD/mo. Due to all the social/economic situation, people do what they have to do they get by. So some people will take advantage of foreigners. So when it comes to dating in COL, MOST foreign men i've talked with, learn to differentiate the women that like them for themselves and women that like them for their wallets, they learn this real quick. And one thing they typical dont do is send money BEFORE having "intimate" relations.

Yes, american men are not use to hearing "i love you" when we never met the person or if it's said to quickly. BUT it's normal in COL. I knew a buddy that meet a gal for THREE DATES, all they did was hold hands, NOT EVEN KISSED, and she said she loved him and wanted to talk about marriage! Latin culture is very expressive, if they feel good about you for that moment, you'll hear it w/ no editing. So if you chat up or date 10 women, you'll hear "i love you" from several of them. The words themselves are sweet but you do have to realize that they say it very easily. THEY ALL MEAN IT, just they mean it for the moment(aqui y ahora).

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toneloc24 says on Sep 21, 2005, 19:04:

Cam/Caslug at Cam - IMO, the saddest thing about this thread is that it even exists. This dude has not even been to Colombia, has no idea of its culture, speaks very little Spanish, has already sent money, and already spewing "Meet Future Wife." Just another know-it-all. Harsh reality will set in later. I just hope he doesn't get taken too badly there. I sincerely doubt whether he come back and post here after the trip. LOL!!!

Oh yeah, and I remember reading somewhere that Michael Douglas is paying his wife $1,000,000 a year as long as they're married, and an agreed settlement if they divorce. There was a big deal made about both the age discrepancy and the payoffs back when they were married. They've had kids, who knows.

at Caslug - C'mon man. Why bother? I know money's not your issue. He needed something to hang onto. He's already given money to the chick. Someone whom he only knows from the internet and the telephone. He'll never know whether his "future wife" cares about him, or just needs the money. I've met some actresses in my day. I saw through their game, and they settled down, but then again, I speak and understand Spanish. He can't even communicate with this chick in her language. They're gonna run circles around him. It's like a joke to some chicas and their friends. The infamous gringo bobo.

Maybe he'll go back and read the forum before going to Barranquilla. More than likely, even his money-giving will wear off and she'll dump him for some regular dude in BAQ much closer to her age who can dance his ass off and speak her language. They'll probably party it up in La Quinta, Cielo, Frogg Leggs, La Cama, Providencia, or Juanito's on his dime. He'd never know. But then again, he's got money to burn. Spend it as he chooses. LOL!!!

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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MyWave says on Sep 21, 2005, 20:12:

I just walked in from work and I was so surprise how much negective or perhaps different opinion can fly around the net. They say only in America. Lets get a couple of things right guys and ladies. The title 'Future Wife' is just that, a title. I am to experience and not hard up to fall for a internet romance, please. I thought I would get some real intel. people out there who has had the experience, simple.... I guess wrong on that statement. Now Gents, I think we can all say we went out of our way for some woman in our lives and got burned, logical correct guys and girls. The next issue is this, I am going for the experience and just to meet the woman. I am sure no one knows me from John Adams or George Bush, correct. I think a lot of you guys who have been on this site may have made the mistake you think I will make. (remember do you people really know me) Perhaps you know yourself better then I. Now for the people who just shared their opinion and sent me four email on a positive note, I wish to thank you again.... Yet even those people do not know me. Are we following me to the point, yet. I just ask a question, gave it a title and all hell broke loose. I wonder what happen to them in thier past life. The truth of the matter I have not been to Colombia, but several friends of mine have married Colombian woman. Two have been married over 5 years. I do have some ideas, but I see some people on this site have the intel of a 16y year old. We will not mention names, this is not the forum for this and it is not that important anyway. I was just put back on several of you with such a nasty response, I wonder more about you and your issue, then me flying to Barranquilla. Gee whiz guys, this was a simple question put out there and everyone jump on it like it was them. (perhaps one time in your lives) I wish to thank everyone for their opinions and I think I can handle myself without knowing spanish. Beside, they do have translator for hire, yes. I am a very logical person and I am not 48 and foolish. I do have a bald head, but I shave it. I am 6'4 and 225.. In better shape then some 35 year old men. This is not a put down, just the facts in my life. I will look forward to all of your responses and will just have a good time with them. As you are aware I do not know anyone on this site, so how can I judge. It seem it is easy for other to do so, logical...... I think it is time for me to watch re-runs of Donald Trump and enjoy myself in Barranquilla for a nice needed vacation.

Thank you again for your little input..... Good Day

MyWave

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BAQ says on Sep 21, 2005, 20:21:

Oh SHIT OH SHIT, HERE WE GO AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Semper Fidelis !

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 21, 2005, 21:37:

I love these threads.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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pedro says on Sep 21, 2005, 21:44:

Future Train Wreck All the signs are there.

que nota!

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 21, 2005, 21:46:

Before you think we're all loco... 1) Get some "intel," as you put it. Your post is hardly the first one of its kind on this board, search for "first-time" or "novia" and you'll get a pretty good listing. So if many posters are doing the bulletin-board version of rolling our eyes, it's because you're only the first person in last 5 days to ask this question (and it seems to be asked EVERY 5 days, more or less). Nothing personal, but for many readers, quite cliche.

2) That you know others with Colombian wives is a good thing (not like we could guess that from the first post) however, learn the games that many of the 18-25yo latinas play on unsuspecting gringos so you can tell if you're being played or if it's true love. From what you've posted so far, it looks like it could be 50/50. But what do I know?

3) If I (and many other posters) had a nickle for everytime we've responded to these questions (and a dollar for every disgruntled and indignant response), I think we could probably retire (at least those of us still working). Hence the collective sigh as in, "oh, no. Not again." Some posters have "been there, done that." and some are in the same boat you are. So you're likely to see quite a range of responses from "cool, man! me too!" to "don't go there! you'll be sorry!"

So, if there is any animosity felt, it is most likely inadvertant and certainly nothing personal. I wish you all the best in your trip and with your "future wife (just a title)" When it comes time to start the importation, er, I mean immigration process, many of us have been there, as well and can help with the details. www.VisaJourney.com is also a very good resource for that part of the process.

Like I said, hang on tight and enjoy the ride.

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toneloc24 says on Sep 21, 2005, 21:54:

Really not sure what you were expecting when you posted this topic. Pats on the back, well wishes, to receive BS answers, to be flamed, opinions? I'm really unclear. Your first post reads different than your last post.

I've had some great experiences with Colombianas and will always have places to stay and eat in Barranquilla, if I chose that route. And I've had some interesting experiences with others. I'm neither poor nor cheap, but it cost me nothing more than Aguilas, aguardiente, ron y conversation. On occasion, food. Whatever the case, it's not like you weren't warned. No need to take heed to the opinions in this thread. You have a search button at your disposal. The experiences of many others have been shared throughout the site. Have at it. Your topic is not unique.

(For once, I actually see Desi's points. I hate that. LOL!)

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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caslug says on Sep 22, 2005, 00:03:

Mr.Wave, in the spirit of being helpful.. i'll give you my observation on your two other questions, colombian male and economic hardship in relation to dating. I've had my share of "dating" col gals, so this only pertain to me AND other guys i've talked with.

a) since COL has 60% poverty, and 15% unemployment w/ higher rate of UNDERemployment, lots of gals have no jobs or low paying jobs. Since your gal already told you she has no job, she falls under the group that has economic hardship. How does economic hardship affect dating life in COL? Well for girls, unless some guy ask them out, many DONT GO OUT. So UNLIKE the US, where if the girl ISNT into you, she wont even go out with you for lunch/dinner/coffee, etc., BUT in COL many girls that have really NO interest romantically in you, WILL go out with you. So you have to weed out the ones that geniunely like you and those that are just along for the ride.

Now, before everyone flame me, i'll add that most girls do warm up to you if you treat them right, BUT there's still a small percentage that just are not into you, but will cont to hang out with you when you ask.

b) COL guys.. The majority of girls i've talked w/ say the #1 reason they breakup is because infidelity(majority of that the guy cheats), #2 distant, was jeolousy. In the COL guy's defense, if he has a little money, it's difficult for him to stay faithful. Because he has TONS of options, other girls will flirt constantly with him. If you're a foreigner multiply that by several factors because you stand out. Most of the foreigner i've met go native after living there awhile, a few(haven't met them personally) manage to stay faithful(my hats off to those selected few).

PS. dont believe the stuff when your chica tells you COL guys are shit, it's BS. Afterall, if the gal REALLY think COL guys are shit, then why is there tons of single moms in COL? Someone is knocking those gals up, and it's NOT foreigners.

c) in regards to age range, it's accepted for a 25-30 yr COL guy to date a 15 yr girl, wacked huh? BUT as a foreigner, i dont recommend you do that, stick w/ 18 or older. age difference is not a issue. BUT if you're dating young gal then you better be OK with partying and dancing.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 03:59:

That thing that Colombian guys are shit is pure bulls***, the only thing is Colombian guys don't like to throw money around like that in a GF unless they are married and have commitment. ok the odd present but no a SALARY. I dont' mind the age different although is a big age different, and cracks will start to appear after several years together, different points of view, and goals, she will change after moving away and mature she will said no but believe me she will, I did! I married at 21. and the age gap with husband is 10. not everything is been fairies and roses.You really have to work in the relationship.
What really bothers me about many Colombian girls with gringo boyfriends is the money aspect, I never ever asked my husband for a single penny, if he gaves me a present on valentines or birthday it was ok, but to maintain me while we were not even married I didn't allowed it. why is this womens ask to be maintain £200us once a year or as present ok, but monthly to paid for food and home, come on!! I have to had a bit of pride left. what's wrong. If a boyfriend send me 200 or 300 usd a month or when I ask for it hell I would not move my a*** from my house to find a job, I already got a salary eh? o cocheche como decimos en Colombia

quien quiere volver a la vida de la aguapanela

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elmodefoque says on Sep 22, 2005, 06:51:

did i miss the blooody massacre?

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 06:55:

no, you haven't missed anything I don't even have to open my mouth before everybody else already fills in for me. Am I that predictable? Geez.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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tomtom33 says on Sep 22, 2005, 07:02:

Kat I have met several Colombianas who would never again get involved with a Colombiano. Since my Spanish is poor, I don't really understand why. But I believe I heard things about physical abuse, drug use, laziness, and womanizing. I do realize that they could be telling me what they think I want to hear.

It is nice to hear another opinion. I like Colombianos in general, but I don't have to sleep with them.

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elmodefoque says on Sep 22, 2005, 07:05:

i'm guilty to all the above i'm guilty of all the above charges, except for physical abuse.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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toneloc24 says on Sep 22, 2005, 07:09:

Desi - C'mon, please. Seriously. We WANT your unrestrained opinion on this one. LOL!!!

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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Lostgringo says on Sep 22, 2005, 07:30:

MyWave Take the good from the good people here and throw the crap away from the bad. Some have nothing better to do than spew garbage from their mouths. Some on the other hand, have something worthwhile to say and are good people. don't be discouraged by some who enjoy twisting things around just to get you upset.

Your Home Away from Home www.welovebogota.com and www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartments and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy! 24/7 hour security.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 07:41:

TOMTOM Women tell you what you want to hear. Of course there are bad lazy Colombians ,but not all of them are like that, and they know their own species they know which one is the "gold digger and mantenida" and not married material so they can have just a good time with them,and which one are the good ones. unfaithfulness,violence, lazzines in a man is everywhere not just Colombian.
BTW some Colombian girls do go behind "Good Colombian catch" but only that this good Colombians catch,only set eyes in estrata 5 or 6 "good family girl name". that is the way they were brough up.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 07:49:

I have a tennager daughter, and I hope if she decide to go for an older man I hope is because she is following her heart.
no como decimos en Colombia
se arregla la comida pero se daña la dormida

Now if somebody wants to send money to his Colombian GF, I don't care is no my money, only that as a woman (me personally) I think it's of bad taste that somebody that i am not committ to have to support me.
blame my parents specially my mother ;-)

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greenday says on Sep 22, 2005, 07:57:

My Wave I think you are putting the cart before the horse. Just relax, don't take this relationship too seriously yet. Go to BAQ, have fun, but have a few back-up plans...please start learning spanish.
Also, tell the girl that when you get married you are going to live in Colombia, NOT the U.S., then see what her response is.
My current girlfriend tells me that she'll live anywhere with me, it doesn't matter (of course she is blind as a bat, and even dumber, but VERY beautiful)...also, I can't get her to take money from me if her life depended on it...I guess I finally got lucky.

Oh, yeah Kat1, if things don't work out with my girlfriend, I'd be VERY interested in your daughter...jejeje

Good luck My Wave, I hate to say it, but I think you're going to need it...just take it slow.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 08:01:

HA! Greenday or viejo verde jejej. my daughter could be your granddaughter, or greatgranddaughter

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greenday says on Sep 22, 2005, 08:05:

Kat1 ouch!!!!!!!!! That hurts so bad...what did I do to deserve that??

Viejo verde....voy a llorar...dañaste mi dia con eso...

try to have a nice day and not be so mean...

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 08:10:

Greenday my daughter is 13!!!!!butI could be you daughter jeje feel better.;-P

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elmodefoque says on Sep 22, 2005, 08:15:

dude, i get called viejo verde all the time, no big deal.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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greenday says on Sep 22, 2005, 08:18:

Kat... You WISH you were my daughter...jejeje

yeah Elmo...I think I'm going to change my name to Viejo Verde...

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 08:22:

YEP. hi daddy ;-)

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elmodefoque says on Sep 22, 2005, 08:36:

Ok, my unbiased and honest feelings regarding this much discussed subject. I’m kinda in your boat. My wife is also 20 years younger but the only difference we are both Colombians. We're going into our 7th looong, loooong year together.
I would not give a broad a penny until she first gives me some honey, but then again I’m a very cheap and very poor modefoque, so I don’t have that kind of cash to throw around. I’m extremely leery of middle class/rich colombianas, the kind that most gringos tent to meet on line or fancy establishments. Getting ahead and keeping up with the joneses is paramount to most and if it means romancing some wrinkled ass gringo to achieve their goal, no matter how unpleasant, they will do it. That being said, they will in most cases fall in love with all the material things now easily available to them thru you. From all that appreciation love will eventually evolve. So what I’m saying, YOU DO have a chance of finding true romance.
Poor Colombian girls have really no means of meeting gringos, especially on line. They can’t afford the 2 mil pesos a minute, never mind having a computer at home, most are lucky just to keep up electricity payments. The furthest thing on their mind would be to romance or think about some freaking old gringo 300 thousand miles away while they gotta figure out what the hell to eat the following day. For them, a meal and drink is easier to get from the guy walking down the street selling loteria. .

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 08:41:

But you dont need to be online to catch a gringo ah! just pop on to the nearest beach and voile!!, and while the lottery seller is giving her a meal ticket at home. the gringo does it internationally

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 09:28:

tone, I don't really feel like have anything much to add to what has already been said here while I was sleeping and then working the whole day. The guys here and kat have already given plenty of good advice and some valuable insight what to expect when a middle-aged gringo gets romantically interested in a young, beautiful colombiana. Some of the nicest people here have had bad experience in this matter.

The only thing that I really wanted to comment was the bad opinion many of these women who get involved with gringos have about colombian men. What did you expect? The group of women who'd rather have a gringo will justify themselves by talking about Colombian men in these terms. As kat already said they will say what you want to hear.

Another thing that came to mind when reading wave's original post was that the girl always says that she loves him. It's a bit too easy, too fast, too fabricated, it just doesn't sound right.

(Don't quote me on this)

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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elmodefoque says on Sep 22, 2005, 09:47:

desi, what happend, are you not feeling well? i thought this guy was the perfect candidate for an additional asshole.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 09:51:

elmo, that's not my game. I'm here to help and heal the mankind by offering comfort and solace for troubled souls.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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morphus says on Sep 22, 2005, 10:03:

$200 for rent and food? thats baloney! you should have sent her an envelope full of cigarette ashes...lol.

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kiwi says on Sep 22, 2005, 10:20:

is this a dating site now? damn, i've been here in perú for the last 2 months, haven't logged onto this site in a while...now it's a full on discussion about dating...i remember the days when this kind of post would be nuked. i have found my other half, media naranja se dicen, here in perú and i have never been happier! but i have to say that colombia does rock, my gf gets sick of me talking about my 6 months there, maybe one day we'll go to san andres and the coast. if u guys come to perú, be sure to visit macchu picchu, well worth it.

mywave dude, use that $200 bucks towards a plane ticket, get down there and see if u click in person, all this chatting online don't mean jack till u find out if you got it going on with her. good luck and keep your eyes open, you must realise that a hot 23 yr old doesn't need a 48 yr old guy. ... oh and for fucks sake learn spanish, charm her with her own language, make jokes in spanish, you'll do ok.

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elmodefoque says on Sep 22, 2005, 10:23:

morphus, last night after my wife came back upstairs with my GERITOL, I was there thinking that too. Damn, $200 dollars for rent is a lotta money, but then again is one more example of middle class/rich Colombianas getting over on gringos. With a poor Colombiana $21 dollars a month is more than enough for rent

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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Miguel says on Sep 22, 2005, 10:29:

Back off on Desi The only reason I joined PBH was because I was surfing the net, found this site, and was impressed by her offerings. Do I agree with her all the time? HELL NO. Do I respect her opinions? HELL YES. She just referenced something to the effect that some of the "buena gente" here have been scammed, and I know she is referring to me, and possibly others. In time, I will post my story. Elmo, tone, kat1, and Mario know where I am coming from. I have been encouraged to post it in order to help others, but it's still an unfolding story. Suffice to say that Elmo has already summed it up perfectly that it was a blessing that this relationship blew up, "porque ahora no es tu problema...es el problema de el". I will post the gory details when I can.

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aztec says on Sep 22, 2005, 10:29:

daughter hell... ...most on this site would prefer the mother!

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alcpa says on Sep 22, 2005, 10:39:

Ride The Wave It's real simple, the last thing you want to do is listens to jerks like us. I met a Colombian woman 26 years younger than i am. Went down to Barranquilla a few times, met her family and stayed at her home while I was there. It's hard to fake feelings when you see how the family reacts for several weeks at a time. I enjoed my self, didn't really ask many people what they thought and went with my instincts (that's why we have them), and ended up marrying her. For me it was a great move, but it could have been a lousy one just as easily. You go to Vegas, well, you know that you have to shoot thr dice in this world. Go with you gut on this one. Good luck!!

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morphus says on Sep 22, 2005, 10:54:

as far as i know, poor people don't pay rent in Colombia. you can buy one of those shanty houses with running water for around $200. no rent or taxes after that. maybe 10,000 pesos a month for electric. thats it.

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BAQ says on Sep 22, 2005, 11:20:

WHERE DID YA GO??? MY WAVE, where did ya go? HOLA? HOLA? HOLA? HOLA?

Do ya'all remember that other poster about a week ago? Was something like SUNSETSrBEST, MYWAVE's last post shows some striking similarities.

Just a thought

Semper Fidelis !

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alcpa says on Sep 22, 2005, 11:34:

Only One Day It's only been one day. Give him a chance - Maybe he feels beat up a little

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 11:48:

why, thank you miguel! for your nice words and support. Whenever you're ready, I'm not trying to push you but you do have a recent experience that might be helpful for others in similar situations.
Cheers,
Desi
(yes, I thought you'd get the message:)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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caslug says on Sep 22, 2005, 12:28:

Hey Roofus.. where r u going to be in COL? I'll be in Cali next month then head to MED in mid NOV.. If you're around we can grab a beer.

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toneloc24 says on Sep 22, 2005, 12:40:

Migs Why bother?

It's your decision if you decide to share. However, just like this dude, people won't even use search button to see that this topic is not a unique case. He goes as far as think that he has a grasp of the situation, when in fact he probably doesn't understand the depth. You and I know and have experienced interesting situations, well known within the families, and these were girls with professional careers, not some poor barrio chicas.

Of course, we all want to help someone understand what may await them. However, everyone is blessed with common sense and instincts. Whether they use it or not, it's their decision. I do think that you'll be wasting your time here, as it probably will probably fall on deaf ears.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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BAQ says on Sep 22, 2005, 13:36:

Damn roofus Damn Roofus, why don;t ya tell us what you "Really think" hahahaha

Semper Fidelis !

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caslug says on Sep 22, 2005, 14:15:

Tone..what city are you hitting in COL this time? You coming back in OCT/NOV? I'll be in COL then, we catch a beer w/ Roofus.

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bkelly says on Sep 22, 2005, 14:20:

MyWave...some advice First of all, don't listen to the negative people on this site. (And before you all start sending me hate mail, I am not implying that everyone is negative, just a select few).

I am 33 years old and my girlfriend is 21. I live in Colombia. Did I seek out a 20 year old girl, no. The fact is that single girls, without children in their 30s are hard to come by. I like to dance and the clubs are full of young girls...what can I say.

Now, the age difference is not a big deal if you are okay with it. The best thing you can do is meet the girl and enjoy yourself. You heart will tell you whether or not the relationship is right.

The one piece of "formative" advice I would offer is be careful what you say about the Colombian males. There is nothing wrong with Colombian males and the perception that Colombian women are dying to meet North American men is something that introduction agencies try to sell their clients. Yes, men are unfaithful here just as they are in the USA. Yes machismo exists here, yet it is a cultural norm and in MOST cases it is not so bad.

I hope this helps.

BK

--bkelly

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toneloc24 says on Sep 22, 2005, 14:25:

Caslug Actually I'll be in Barranquilla just for this weekend. Probably will run across some extra giggly barrio-rich 23 yr old chica while I'm there. I'll shake her hand and have her buy me an Aguila. If I wasn't already booked, I'd try to get lucky and pull an Elmo and have the nite end up with her on all fours, screaming out her bobo's name. LOL!!!

I'm probably gonna do a week in November in Colombia. I might do the MDE-Cali tour that week, stopping in cities (Manizales, Periera, etc.) along the way.

PM me and let me know your days.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 22, 2005, 14:32:

Yeah, Roofus, I'm with you, he ought to be pounding the chiquito he's paying for.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2005, 14:44:

Bkelly I don't said that it won't work, look at me I married when I was 21 my husband 33, 12 years different. only that you have to work a bit harder in the relationship.I had my two kids by the age 24. I felt like I have to mature quickly to be taken seriously. it would be very difficult to explain here, but I change a lot since. As I said before I start to mature in the relationship and my priorities and points of view started to change. sometimes he just wants to settle when I want to keep going. Our marriage is fine I love him but it hasn't been plain sailing all along there were time that I just wanted to through the towel as we said in Colombia and some not all of the problems, were the age gap, and 12 years is not a lot... I wonder who in PBH have been married to a Colombiana as long as me and with a big age gap? just out of curiosity...

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bkelly says on Sep 22, 2005, 14:47:

te entiendo I understand your comments...no te preocupes.

--bkelly

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BAQ says on Sep 22, 2005, 15:41:

TONELOC If you are gunna be here this weekend, PM me, maybe we can hook up and grab a beer

Semper Fidelis !

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Lostgringo says on Sep 22, 2005, 16:10:

Wave you have come to the wrong place Don't expect alot of people to give you contructive advise to you. Some are earnest and some don't even know what the word it! I find that most posts on PBH come from ignorant, rude and negative people.

What the hell is this all about. A guy sends a measly $200 to someone and you some of you go balistic!

Wave don't listen to some of these gutter snipes. Go and enjoy yourself. It will make you feel many years younger. Some never get the chance for an adventure like yours. Just try not to tip alot. If you tip alot people think you have alot of money. You give them Papaya! In other words, they may want to rob you etc. Some people here are dirt poor and have nothing to lose.

Make sure you have a photo copy of your Passport and carry that with you all time. Keep your Visa in a safe place and don't use unless you have to. Try to use only your credit card and not withdraw money from the tellers at the banks. Lastly leave your gold jewlery at home. Less flash means less cash and "less" papaya!

Be safe and enjoy!!!!!!!!!

Your Home Away from Home www.welovebogota.com and www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartments and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy! 24/7 hour security.

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tomtom33 says on Sep 22, 2005, 16:18:

Kat I've never been married. But I have been dating a Colombiana for about a year and a half who is 18 years younger than I am. At 39 she is pretty mature. She's even mature enough to give me four more years to sow my wild oats before she expects monogamy.

Unfortunately, I may not be able to give up my harem. Soy un perro.

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 22, 2005, 16:20:

Which is more "constructive" advice? a) take it easy, big fella, sometimes las chicas de Colombia are only looking for a gringo cajero automatica and will tell you whatever you want to hear. I don't know if that's true in your case, but be careful.

* * * or * * *

b) Go for it! Have a great time! Those 20-something latinas really know how to spot quality in american men!

The first is not the most "supportive," perhaps, but is telling the cold-hard reality that is sometimes hard to see through love-struck (and ego-stroked) gringo eyes.

The second is "supportive," but is something like waving to your buddy as he heads for a waterfall in his boat.

I don't see warning him about being the victim of a possible scam any different from warning him to keep his gold jewlery at home.

Of course, you can always tell a gringo who's "discovered" the latina charm...but not very much.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 22, 2005, 16:27:

That's us: The Rude, Ignorant and Negative! Hell, I'm not negative. I think he ought to go down there and pound her in every possible orifice and position for 2 solid weeks. I don't think he should wait until November - he ought to go now, wear himself out and go again in November.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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caslug says on Sep 22, 2005, 16:33:

franko, u bring up a excellent reason for.. NOT flashing money or projecting the perception of wealth..

"people think you have alot of money. You give them Papaya! In other words, they may want to rob you etc. Some people here are dirt poor and have nothing to lose."

Sending $200USD W/O meeting someone creates a perception that the person has money to loose/burn. What if she tells a neigbhor or her friends, family, etc., that she got a gringo sending her money and that he's coming to visit in a few months. While those people maybe ok, what if they tell other people that are not good people. You said yourself the level of poverty and what people will do to survive. creating perception of wealth(esp going w a poor girl) may have lead to problems. harmless problem can be the girl will invite her friends or family to go out for a free meal or other monterary gift, because they think you have money. It will also make you the 'giver' a potential trage crime or cons.

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harocha says on Sep 22, 2005, 16:57:

From a Colombian point of view.... Women are women no matter where we are as men are men no matter where they are, culture and family principles make us different than others who live on the next region, country, or continent. This is not about what is wrong with Colombian men… all men around the world are just that … MEN.

I recommend that you go to Barranquilla and get to know the town, the people and the society, and then you can judge based on your own knowledge, I grew up there and I know how it is.

If she is not willing to wait for you to feel comfortable, then she is not for you.

Why are you GRINGOS in such a hurry to marry someone ?????, just relax and take it easy, live your wonderful life.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 22, 2005, 17:03:

Well, dude, when you're as old as we are (I'm 85) it's hard (heheheh) to find a reliable outlet for ourselves. So we go down to Colombia for some Third World action. We're in a hurry because we haven't got much time left. I bagged a 17 year old myself. Que cazador!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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harocha says on Sep 22, 2005, 17:18:

I am a girl not a DUDE That is terrible DUDE... but i guess she was really desperate and unfortunatly Mom didn't teach her better.

I have nothing agains old men with young women, but I think do the LOLITA story is way out of desperation from your site, here in USA you will be already with a sentence of life in prison for that, you know that, so that is why, i guess, you guys go there. I blame her MOTHER no you any way...

Have a good one DUDE.

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Lostgringo says on Sep 22, 2005, 17:18:

Wave has left the room? Harocha has some good input for you Wave. And many others too. Don't let the paranoia that permeates these rooms get to you. If you have a few reservations about your friend get a hotel room until you get to know her friends and family. Colombia is like a bed or roses. Be carefull of the thorns but enjoy the smell and sight of the roses my friend.

Some morons here think you should have 24 - 7 sex with this girl to get your $200 worth. Says alot about their mentality and status in life doesn't it.

Thats why you should listen to the good people on PBH who have the decency to give you contructive criticism and just forget about some of these crude gutter snipes. Chances are they are really ugly and couldn't find an attractive and decent woman if they had to lol.

Which begs the question: how much did they spend on buying their wifes? lol.

Truth hurts!

Your Home Away from Home www.welovebogota.com and www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartments and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy! 24/7 hour security.

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 22, 2005, 17:20:

I don't know how much... ...I paid to get my next wife.
I just know what it cost to get away from my last one.

Ouch.

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jbk0904 says on Sep 22, 2005, 17:20:

Do it your own way Mr. Do it your own way..After all, you will make a decision for what it is good for you. Money..be generous...we send often money to Red Cross, World Vision, and etc.... why not to colombia...

that is a live..Life is short,Art is long

Viva..US and Colombia

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 22, 2005, 17:35:

Red Cross != Chica Colombiana Being generous and supporting a charity is WAYYYYYY different than sending cash-ola to someone you met on an internet dating site.

First: The Red Cross (and any other charity) evaluates the recipients need according to some objective standard they apply to everyone and distributes the goods/services/money in person.

Joe Gringo evaluates the need based on some (usually) unverified sob-story sent by some girl who looks hot in her profile picture (probably a year or two old) and her webcam (from the neck up).

Second: People getting money from the Red Cross don't come away thinking the Red Cross is some big open checkbook ripe for the picking. They think it's a service provided under desperate circumstances.

Joe Gringo, looks like a big checkbook with money to burn when he sends money before meeting someone and doing some "on-site" recon (with his "big" head). If you want to buy (or rent) your chica, save your money and just go down there and get your services "cash and carry" (so to speak).

Hey, it's your money, do what you want. Her Colombian boyfriend(s) will sure be greatful. It just seems silly to play the game with your eyes closed when there are so many people around who have "been there and done that."

I know it's crude, but I've met some of the chicas that go fishing for gringos and some of them literally compare notes while they are spending their gringo's money at the club. Girls talk...boy, do they talk.

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toneloc24 says on Sep 22, 2005, 18:33:

Crazy4Cali You get it.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 22, 2005, 20:46:

At the same time... it's important to remember that not all chicas are like this. Just to be aware they exist and to be on the lookout.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 22, 2005, 22:02:

You want to know what I paid? Well, we're talking high quality anatomically correct plastic here, not some cheap Wal-mart version. I think my inflatable doll is the finest that can be purchased in Colombia. At least that's what Pablo, my taxi driver, told me. The wrapper was open though. I just hope that sonofagun hadn't tried it out before me.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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smoothing says on Sep 23, 2005, 08:44:

my wave i can tell you how to check her out I can tell you how to check her out to be sure.it is fool proof.and you dont have to leave from home to do it.send me a message here on this site.I've tried it before.and from what i just read...you need to know before you go to baq(barranquilla)

SMOOTHING

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smoothing says on Sep 23, 2005, 08:47:

how to find out if she is real? there is a way i can tell you how to find out if she is real.this never fails.send me a message on this site and i will tell you how to do it.it worked for me.

SMOOTHING

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 23, 2005, 09:03:

Business opportunity? Maybe this is another one?

ChicaChecking!

What a way to pay the bills while living in Locolombia.

For a small fee (paid in advance, of course) you could meet with the chica for the distant gringo and see if she's all she says she is. (how many chicachecks would you need to pay the rent, anyway?) I mean if a gringo is happy to send $200 for the heck of it (or $1000 per mo. as in another thread), surely he could be sold on sending a couple of c-notes your way to check out where those Ben Franklins are going.

Being an unbiased 3rd party, you could offer an honest assesment of her intentions and personality. In fact, it might even be a good job for a couple. Having the Male AND Female perspective would seem to be extremely valuable!

Unfortunately, I'm stuck in the U.S. so all I could offer is maybe some website design help. However, if anyone picks this up and runs with it, let me know how it turns out. Maybe I could open a branch office down the road :)

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MyWave says on Sep 23, 2005, 14:52:

Ok MyWave

MyWave

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MyWave says on Sep 23, 2005, 15:12:

Ok Fan Club MyWAVE I wonder if I left the site for more then a day what would happen. I took a bet of 10.00 bucks people would continue with the bad thoughts. I was surprise with the overall turn around. I the part I like the most I finally got a answer about the Colombian MEN. Now I understand why they are the way the Col. Women say they are.

1. Lack of Money: It seem some of you were right. They may make a little more then the female country men so they have to be cheap. What is another 100 ro 300 dollars more unless you have to spend it on a woman who is not worthy. It seem the men in Col. are no different then most men, they just lack the funds to be upper middle class playboy...... It is logical and I think the person for telling me this.

2. They have their pick. Show a woman from Colombia a Happy Meal and she will love you long time too. Sorry spent a couple of weeks in Asia. It is true. Look at this way people, even in America you have to spend money on a date. Oh also you people who have never spent money on a woman, think very hard about this before you reply.
A. The time, mental, social, emotional time you spend dating a woman.
B. It cost to call, it is part of your phone bill.
C. Have to get dress up a little.
D. You have to spend gas to get to her. Even if you are looking for a booty call, you must start somewhere.

E. For those who do not live with their mothers, there is a motel fee, yes.
F. Okay for those who do not pay anything, well I would not want that type of woman. She has iven you a number at the fish market before you even said hello. Sir your number is 123, there are 10 guys ahead of you.

So you see I have learned a lot form just being on this site for two days. More about human nature from some of you, then about Colombian dating rights. Hey I ask for it, but I did not ask for the war between men and women which has been going on long before any of us were born.

There were several really good, outstanding replies. You guys know who you are, you have had more productive life experiences then, well you know the ones.... I will keep a eye on this site from time to time and will send you all picture of my vacation or marriage or perhaps from what I have heard. Barranquilla has such a great sunset. I guess it is do to where it is located. Near the center of our God good mother earth. Hell this is worth a couple of pictures and a nice vacation. I think now everyone knows I am not the type to go head over heels on a flat stomach and long raven black hair....... Thank everyone for your kind support........ C/Ya

MyWave

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BAQ says on Sep 23, 2005, 15:38:

Well I DAMN SURE DO ! You might not " head over heels on a flat stomach and long raven black hair" but I DAMN SURE DO - HAHAHA Nothing better in the world than that !!!!!

Semper Fidelis !

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bondjames says on Sep 23, 2005, 16:24:

"Spending money for a date on a Happy Meal in Asia may have her love you for a long time in Asia. But do you really think this girl will be grateful for those "little things" after a few years in the U.S. Even a few months will change that.

The reality that many guy do not understand is there is a huge change in perception once a foreign women comes to the States. Just like there is a huge change in perception once an AM goes overseas.

A gringo who was willing to settle for a woman that is 0-5 years younger and a 6 or7 in the U.S. goes overseas and sees his buying power is MUCH HIGHER!!!now he can pick up a women 10-20 years younger that is a 9 or a 10 with no problem. They come on to him!!!. He then becomes picky. He is human. Human beings will look for the best potential partner they can find in the area they are in.

A young girl in Colombia that thinks a man 25 years her senior who makes decent money is a great ctach can quickly realize in the U.S. her catch aint so great. In fact she sees she can get a young gringo that makes just as much as her husband. She finds out that unlike her country where men with class and education are expected to marry a woman within the same class,So her choices of marrying a man who will be a good provider is slim to none. the U.S. does not have that class structure and men of all classes and education are willing to "overlook" her lack of class and education which is something a Colombian guy would never do. Her pool of professional men interested in her will increase immensely once in the U.S. and I can tell you divorce is not looked down upon by these younger girls.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 23, 2005, 17:57:

Damm, BAQ, you beat me to it! Yo tambien. Long jet-black hair with a nice ass and slender legs? Yo, Baby! Come to Daddy! Sit on my lap and we'll see what comes up. Let's get something straight between us....

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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MyWave says on Sep 23, 2005, 20:19:

Class and Education Okay you guys you missed the point again. Damn, there must be deep emtional issues again. The Happy Meal example was just that a example, Gee Whizzzzzzz guys. What happen to you all. Or I should say some of you. Okay History lesson 101.... Through out time men have married youner women. Read the bible if you dare too. Next class and education. Well for those who do not know, I have a 10th grade education, come from a poor family and taught myself through the library and now the internet. I got my GED after I was 21 yrs old and went to college. I a mutt who work hard to et where I am today. So you talk about class, this is not a issue. The only different I had over Alix was I was born in America and I am a male. Lets o obe step further, PROUD BLACK MALE, get the concept. For those who our not a minority you cannot fathom or understand. Don't say you know how I feel.... Next I do not know how you feel.. Is this a logical statement...... Gee Whiz people open your eyes a little. Everyone thinks when a man, any man wants a change in life and oes against social norms he is crazy, stupid, silly or fruit cake. Now after reading some of my reply, I can say you uys know I did not just fall mof the truck. Think about it. You guys who have a wife from Colombia or anywhere there is a third world country are very lucky to have your wives. You can get stick up here in the states. The place I grew up the carjack before they had a name for it. So for those who think I am Mr. AZZ or I know everything this is far from the truth. I learn more about people here then I have in my college courses dealing with people and their issue, geeeeeee....

I read some of your replies and sent them to my friends who are already married to south American women. They tell me for the most part I am right. Those people are placing their social norms and emtional experience in what they write too you MYWave.... As a Businessman do you not think a pre-dub is basic thinking.... I guess you guys did not know I could think... Next time I will send you my test scores. Okay for those who reply you will tell on yourself and show the issues you have... Come on with it.

NOW I have heard some good, very good negs on what I am doing... This is cool. It should be this way. But you know now, my question has allow you all to vent your emotional issues, which in a way is a service to all. See I am not that bad and I did not think of it until a hour ago..... So I do wish everyone and I do mean everyone good luck in life. I am not upset, because most of it I have gotten a pretty good laugh and I shared it with my friend. They seem to want to join this site and start a war. Hay I do not have time for war.... War is silly and stupid. Some one has G Baby's phone number on the east coast. I need to have him to ask congress to vote a police action on this site..... I am sorry, it will not work.... You huys have no oil........ Unless someone has already paid up their gas card, he may give it a shot..... Let all have fun with this site. Oh, have to go... My friend wish to have me send the 3rd page of my question to them from this site. Two of you, which we will not mention names, they all get a big laugh off of them... Watch the first one after I post this will tell all who they are and thier issue.... Come guys show me a good time so I can email more of your replies........ Maybe I will get to seven pages by Monday..... Amyonw wish to take out a 50.00 bet on it....

Peace

MyWave

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Lostgringo says on Sep 25, 2005, 07:45:

The Dark Sid of PBH Wave, I must admit that you have a good attitude. You have to have one for this site. I can't imagine the number of people who have left this site or not bothered with it because of all the stupid negativity and personal attacks. But it is not just negativity it very crude and rude remarks that are made here. When a person critizes another person or attacks them, it is negative NOT CREATIVE or CONTSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM!

Moreove, it seems like the same posters all the time. Don't they have any "real" friends they can talk to you or maybe a dog they could kick around? Man, some of these people really need to get a life. Some have never really lived in Colombia or just have a Colombian wife. I am guessing that most of the foul mouthed people in here that have married women from Colombia only marry the estrada 1 type women. I am positive they do NOT have the intellegence nor class to marry a woman higher than estrada 1.

The good thing about PBH is that there are some very decent people here who care about others. If it was not for these people this site would fold. But maybe not. There are alot of weird people in the world who just love to toss hate around.

From what I have read Wave seems like a very likeable fellow who has come to this forum for advice. CONSTUCTIVE ADVICE!!! Some have even went as far to demean his girlfriend saying he should have sex with her in every oriface she has ( to get his $200 worth!) How would you like it if someone said that about your loving wife? How crude can you get here? As far as I am concerned some of you have crossed over the line. Is there really a need for this type of nonsense? I wonder if some of you slime buckets would actually have the guts tosay that to Wave's face. You hide behind you computers. I know you would not say it to my face! You cowards.

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aztec says on Sep 25, 2005, 08:03:

MyWave ... ...as I have already advised, spend time in Colombia. You will have a life changing experience. Concentrate on the positive and get to know the people and absorb a little of the Colombian culture.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 25, 2005, 08:32:

I have news for you Frank. A woman that you have never met is NOT your girlfriend. She doesn't qualify as anything. Before I went down to Colombia and met my wife, people could joke about my plans and whether I was going to get my money's worth, hehehe. Hell people still joke when I come in tired and complain that I'm not getting any sleep. Also when you refer to my wife as an Estrada 1 hooker, who is being insulting? Let's face it, Frank, you indulge in exactly the kind of behavior that you complain about. Not that I give a rat's ass.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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CaryGrant says on Sep 25, 2005, 08:45:

tomtom "I've never been married. But I have been dating a Colombiana for about a year and a half who is 18 years younger than I am. At 39 she is pretty mature. She's even mature enough to give me four more years to sow my wild oats before she expects monogamy."

Exactly what is your definition of maturity?

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 25, 2005, 09:02:

Wake up call I'm with UTC on this one. If anything the, so called "rude" comments should serve as a wake-up call (albeit a rather extreme one) to mywave. But some people won't hear anything unless it's written on a 2x4 and hit over thier head with it.

MyWave came here asking for advice stating, "Any input would help me....... Thank you...." so it would seem he got exactly what he was asking for (though maybe not what he was expecting). As such, he's really in no position to complain just because he doesn't like what he reads.

Further, his original post contained many (if not all) the red flags of being played. (G.F "suddenly" loses her job and needs money, 20+ yr age difference, just met a few months ago, has never been to Colombia, etc.) I wonder when he'll hear about her "sick mom/cousin/uncle/grandfather."

Many of the posters have seen this before, here, as well as in real life, and are now looking back on this type of thing from the other side. As such they feel some obligation to offer the advice the poster is seeking (with varying degress of sarcasm, perhaps).

But, face it, Franko_44 and others "new" to the latina scene, you don't know what you don't know (you will, soon, though) in spite of all the advice you've received. While you're learning, the rest of us will just sit back and try to restrain from saying "I told you so."

Like I said, you can always tell a gringo, but not very much.

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tomtom33 says on Sep 25, 2005, 09:02:

CG She is mature enough to realize that I won't change overnight, if at all. I will probably never grow up. So I will just have to be content with debauchery.

Me gustan las grillas.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 26, 2005, 04:10:

Just a coment for Tomtom, when you said you like the "grillas" that mean you are a "grillero", and we call grilleros, guys that like ugly women.;-)
just to let you know, so you know in the future.

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MyWave says on Sep 26, 2005, 10:06:

Hotels in Barranquilla Looking for some hotels in Barranquilla.. Yes I know about the Royal, Plaza and the El Prado..... Are there anymore. Also the nearest beach for Jet Ski riding... Horse back riding also if anyone knows.

Thanks

My Wave

MyWave

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