Fiance doesn't want to go to Colombia

chicharron says on Jan 26, 2005, 04:30:

sorry to hear that the media image puts most Brits off, but not the reality - Its a leap of faith, but I ( surely like the many others on here ) have survived, and fallen in love with the country and the people. Best of luck

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teppar says on Jan 26, 2005, 04:41:

jojo i was nervous about going to colombia my first time too. i'm not tall, so i blend in that way, but i am very pale and blond which makes blending into colombia a bit of a challenge. coupled with the fact that i speak only the spanish i learned from sesame street as a child it was a bit daunting. but there is something about the place that made me free. it probably has a lot to do with how well i was taken care of by my novio's family.

i would tell your boyfriend to trust you. to explain to him how important that part of yourself is and that you need to share it with him. hopefully he will understand and respect your need to share this part of yourself with him.

good luck

cheers

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2005, 04:43:

Is very difficult when somebody is very apprehensive about things I quiet understand him, but he mustn’t let a few programs spoil it. Nothing is gone to happen to him, explain him that he is no the first and the last foreigner to go Colombia. Look here in PBH how many had been there and back safely and many of them felt the same about your fiancé the first time. I just came back with my British husband and we didn’t have a problem at all. The cocaine program wasn’t that bad, in there they said how much Colombia is getting a bit safer. And Clear and present Danger that film is a joke

Good luck

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umm says on Jan 26, 2005, 04:47:

Then get a new fiancee. Get yourself a man this time and not a chicken.
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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2005, 04:51:

Umm
I love your little face with the flag how did u do it?

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Dan says on Jan 26, 2005, 04:54:

I'm pretty tall my self at over 6' tall. I have actually been told that I can pass as a Colombian although I don't believe it. I'm tall and can't get past being a white guy either. The other people have been telling me that I could pass but I think it's until I start talking jajaja. Hopefully he will change his mind.

Most of my family keeps telling me that I need to watch out and be extra carefull but I don't think there is all that much to worry about.

Take care,
Dan

God Bless America!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2005, 05:02:

My husband is blonde green eyes and one time we were driving around cali when somebody shout at him !where are you going paisa! you see in colombia is a diversity of people. there are tall.blonde,short. I Don't think he will have a problem.

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lanegratomasa says on Jan 26, 2005, 05:08:

For God's sake!! He's being a bit lame.

If my boyfriend after a year due to some Harrison Ford movie and propaganda decided not to come to my country. He would be dumped enseguida.


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babygirl says on Jan 26, 2005, 05:58:

Diversity is HOT! With heels I'm atleast 5'10 ish, very white even with a tan, European looking. Can you imagine how out of place I felt with most of the guys barely hitting my shoulder height? I always feel like a giant when I stand next to most women but especially when I travel to the carribean etc.. So what if he stands out like a sore thumb. How boring life would be if we were all the same. Diversity is HOT!

PS: I really think that people should stop watching so much of the kitch that hollywood produces.

cheers - babygirl

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Crazy4Cali says on Jan 26, 2005, 06:16:

I saw Close Encounters and I was really disappointed to not be greeted by aliens when I went to the devil's tower in Wyoming.

Remember...Hollywood is "make believe"

Sadly, many so-called documentaries also have a serious make-believe quotient.

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umm says on Jan 26, 2005, 07:41:

kat1 rightclick on the picture, safe as or guardar como, put it on your webpage and then put a HTML tag with a reference to it into your post.
The tag should look like follows:

you gotta take out the ° in front of the 'img'. I put that in so that the code is displayed properly.

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ColombianoX says on Jan 26, 2005, 09:06:

"I know Colombians in the states who don't want to come back to Colombia even for a visit."

Many of those are probably colombians who were involved in shady deals in Colombia and are afraid they're gonna get some payback if they return.


Ahora, yo jamás tendría una pareja que despreciaría a mi Colombia! Qué falta de dignidad tienen algunos paisanos, hagan respetar a la Patria!


ColombianoX

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Miamigo says on Jan 26, 2005, 09:17:

The guy is a dickus and a wuss if he's too scared to go to Colombia and I would dump him muy pero muy pronto.

Umm - you don't need the border tag here:



Paola Turbay still does it for me. I'll go to Exito just to look at the pictures of her.

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Jojo says on Jan 26, 2005, 10:03:

Paola Hmmm, if he sees the picture of Paola he may be convinced.....

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Neonovo says on Jan 26, 2005, 10:23:

I was one of those colombians who didn't go back... Since 1983, my last visit. But then, in 2004 I went back, and fell in love all over again with Colombia.

Paz

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ColombianoX says on Jan 26, 2005, 11:08:

GIB,Right now I'm working GIB,

Right now I'm working on my move to Colombia. Believe me, I wish I was living in Bogotá right now, like you.

And I wasn't referring specifically to your friends, but to some colombians who are afraid to go back because they were involved in dirty businesses back in Colombia, and they won't return because they know they'll be hunted down by their ex-associates or the authorities. You know that there are many cases like these!


CX

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 26, 2005, 13:24:

Actually, GIB, being a tall obvious gringo, I have a perfect idea of what that might be like. Before I went to Colombia I was convinced that I would never come back alive but I went anyway because it meant that much to me to meet the woman who would become my wife. Try starting him out with a trip to San Andres (you can even go via Panama City or San Jose) or Cartagena. If that works out well, he may be able to go with you to your home town.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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santiBOG says on Jan 26, 2005, 15:31:

Burro Look at Gib, giving others lessons on judging others, sense and sensitivity.

El burro hablando de orejas!

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umm says on Jan 26, 2005, 15:32:

But you fiancee is man enough to leave the house alone, right?
Have to clarify that fisrt.

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vladimiro says on Jan 27, 2005, 14:39:

Just my opinion... ...but I don't think you should marry someone from another country if you don't like the country they're from - you should like it enough to be able to live there if necessary. Consider the fact that your future children will be Colombian and they may very well might want to visit or live in COlombia; your children could resent the fact that thier father does not like Colombia.

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ColombianoX says on Jan 27, 2005, 15:22:

"...but I don't think you should marry someone from another country if you don't like the country they're from "


Very well put!

CX

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umm says on Jan 27, 2005, 21:04:

Maybe the father would like Colombia, but because Colombia is always displayed negatively in all kind of Hollywood movies, people think its true what they show there.
I can only say grow up, and dont believe everything you see in a movie....its only a movie, fiction, not true.
Do you think what happened on Gilligans Island was true???......'these poor people'.
Maybe you should tell your fiancee that also Captain Kirk does not really exist and that extraterrestrials dont all talk perfect english.
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maria1234 says on Jan 27, 2005, 23:23:

Promise him something like a threesome with some hot Colombiana. Maybe he'll go then? Men, are like burros they have to be coerced you know.

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calipro says on Jan 27, 2005, 23:32:

Jojo Just tell your fiance that you are going to vist Colombia with or with out him and since you don't like travelling alone your are going to go with your new friend Calipro.

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maria1234 says on Jan 28, 2005, 08:27:

Just stop Giving him sex until he agrees

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elmodefoque says on Jan 28, 2005, 08:30:

maria, yeahhh!
instead of him, give it to me.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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Cerealkiller says on Jan 28, 2005, 09:17:

Ask him to do some research by himself, show him there are wonderful places which are safe, think of cartagena if its good enough for President Dubya i cant see why it cant be good enough for him.
Ask him to read some of the threads on this site. Its quite sad when people dont give this country a chance due to very negative propaganda. Colombia has its problems but Im sure once you convince him he is going to love it :)
It took me a while to convince a couple of friends back in England but after showing them pictures and after knowing I moved back here and I am still alive they will be visiting next March.
Good Luck.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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JoeandPat says on Jan 28, 2005, 09:36:

Common Sense Jojo,

Until 3 years ago, I'd lived in Carson, CA for 30 years. Right next to Compton. I'm white and my ex-husband is black. We have 2 kids. I'm sure if a tourist checked out that area online, they'd be advised not to visit, let alone LIVE there. But like any large city, there are scary places and safe places. We never had any problems with safety, except for the police hassling my son (young men of color are hassled a LOT).

I now live in Panama. My now-husband recently went to Bogota for back surgery (very successful---YAY---and only $9K!!!!). He went with a friend of ours who has family there. This family has been amazingly kind and giving: gave up a bedroom for my husband, take excellent care of him, and REALLY treat him like he's a cherished family member.

Now we are considering moving to the Bogota area! Hopefully buy a farm and live the tranquilo life. Just as it is in the States, there are safe places to go and unsafe places. Claro! I know your family will love taking care of your novio, no problemo. I hope he gives it a chance. Too many Americanos are afraid of travel, and as has been said above, put too much emphasis on the media's version of the truth.

Pat

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 28, 2005, 09:58:

If we going to talk about robbers, pickpockets, them Colombia is no more dangerous than New York. I don't say Colombia is 100% safe what you need is common sense. I remember a British couple went to Miami and they were robbed in the hotel too. I think they were quite few of those crimes in Miami no long ago. So is no just Colombia. I go to Colombia often and thanks god never ever happened to my husband or me. But funny enough here in England in a very "safe" town no London "and" in a changing room don't ask how but my bag was stolen, my son was pushed in the street and his watch stolen."so is no just Colombia". My advice is just Common sense.

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YEP says on Jan 28, 2005, 10:07:

You don't have to say "shit" to get your point across
but of course if you want to drag the level of conversation down then feel free if you think it will help your course ;-)

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gringuito says on Jan 28, 2005, 10:54:

Use Common sense I am very gringo looking. Street vendors in Bogota automatically speak to me in English without hearing anything from me. But I have found that you exercise the same precautions in Bogota that you do in any major US city. Your novio will miss some great scenery if he misses Colombia. If you are going to Bogota tell him about the wonderful places to visit such as the Gold Museum and the salt cathederal. Tell him you will take him to such romantic places as Cartegena or Villa de Leyva (one of my favorites including the El Duruelo Hotel). Yes, he has fears, but let those fears be his caution and not his reason for depriving himself of something wonderful including learning about the soul of his future wife.

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Cerealkiller says on Jan 28, 2005, 11:04:

Duruelo kicks butt, take the guy there, keep him away from Villa de Leyvan mushrooms though.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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bramafear says on Jan 29, 2005, 08:23:

This is for your Fiance via Buffett COWBOY IN THE JUNGLE
ByJimmy Buffett

There's a cowboy in the jungle
And he looks so out of place
With his shrimp skin boots and his cheap Cheroots
And his skin as white as paste

Headin' south to Paraguay
Where the gauchos sing and shout
Now he's stuck in Porto Bello
Since his money all ran out
So he hangs out with the sailors
Night and day they're raisin' hell
And his original destination's just another
Story that he loves to tell.

With no plans for the future
He still seems in control
From a bronco ride to a ten foot tide
He just had to learn to roll.

Roll with the punches
Play all of his hunches
Made the best of whatever came his way
What he lacked in ambition
He made up with intuition
Plowing straight ahead come what may.

Steel band in the distance
And their music floats across the bay
While American women in muumuus
Talk about all the things they did today
And their husbands quack about fishing
As they slug those rum drinks down
Discussing who caught what
and who sat on his butt
But it's the only show in town.

They're tryin' to drink all the punches
They all may lose their lunches
Tryin' to cram lost years into five or six says
Seems that blind ambition erased their intuition
Plowin' straight ahead come what may.

I don't want to live on that kind of island
No, I don't want to swim in a roped off sea.
Too much for me, too much for me
I've got to be where the wind and the water are free.

Alone on a midnight passage
I can count the falling stars
While the Southern Cross and the satellites
They remind me of where we are
Spinning around in circles
Living it day to day
And still twenty four hours, maybe sixty good years
It's still not that long a stay.

We've gotta roll with the punches
Learn to play all of our hunches
Makin' the best of whatever comes your way
Forget that blind ambition
And learn to trust your intuition
Plowin' straight ahead come what may.
And there's a cowboy in the jungle.
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Live in the Mundo of Manana!

When can we pack our bags?

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