"Fake" Marriage in Colombia

utopiacowboy says on Jan 2, 2006, 08:10:

Plenty of problems. For one thing the notaria is going to require the both of you to have Certificados de Solteria in which two people swear that you are single and are not living with anyone. BTW, the wedding "ceremony" at the notaria's office is like a real estate closing. You are limited to a handful of spectators and it is about as much of a ceremony as a city hall wedding in the US. My advice is to skip the wedding since you will already be married and just have a big party.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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ronald1168 says on Jan 2, 2006, 08:17:

Church wedding in Colombia is possible without no problems Utopiacowboy is absolutely right, however you will be able to marry in church in Colombia.


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seammckenna126 says on Jan 2, 2006, 08:47:

I have a similar situation We have our K-1 visa now. i'm going next month to bring her to her new home. AFTER obtaining the visa I had a change of heart and wanted to have a big wedding in colombia....it's cheaper, I would have more fun with her family than with mine and it's traditionally the "bride's day" mostly. We tried to find some way of doing it without "paperwork" being signed in Colombia and then have a simple marriage here in the U.S. with the signed paperwork and stuff. We tried Christian and Catholic churches. No luck....to many various little problems or aggravations. Our solution...have a big pre-wedding party/going away party with a priest blessing our rings and saying other nice things. It's not an official thing...but nice.

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flaleo says on Jan 2, 2006, 13:44:

UC, I don't think you understand...

We will have a real marriage in the U.S., with no one present other than the government official (notary?) in the city hall.

Then, in Colombia, even though we are already married, we want to have a "party". In the party, we want to "marry" in front of everyone. Thus, in Colombia, do we just have a non-notary fake running a "wedding" in front of family, or since a notary there already knows the procedure does someone think we can hire/pay him to do a ceremony for us even though it will have no legal meaning (as we won't be looking to have that ceremony signify marriage, we won't have the proper paperwork like certificates of solteiro, etc.)?

We don't want to use a church nor a preist - neither of us use the church. Like seam126, we just want a party, call it a bride's day, with her family, and nice "fake" "I-do ceremony" in front of the party.

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 2, 2006, 14:48:

I do understand and good luck persuading a Colombian notaria to go along with your fake wedding plan. They aren't going to do it unless you can find one who is a friend or relative of the family. By all means, have a party!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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seammckenna126 says on Jan 2, 2006, 14:53:

ditto to what U.C. said, I tried the same thing. He's right. One would think it wouldn't be that big of a deal.....but it is. Have a big as at at at party. they know you will be already married anyway. It's the celebration of your union that counts mostly....not being witness to the actual ceremony. Think of it like that. :)

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flaleo says on Jan 3, 2006, 05:17:

Damn, I though finding a notary willing to make some money on his time off wouldn't be so hard... maybe better I should try to find an actor willing to play a role?

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JMOON87 says on Jan 3, 2006, 19:59:

THATS WHAT WE DID FLALEO , thats what we did back in june and had no problems but yes you may have to look around or find a friend of a friend to do it .

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Gator says on Jan 3, 2006, 21:25:

Believe Me.... a Notary in Colombia is NOT like a Notary in the USA. Example in Bogotá, a city of 6 million, there are 65 notaries; Medellin, 29; Cali, 19 and in my old stamping grounds, Jamundi, one one, a very nice lady Martha Rivadeneria.

As Utopiacowboy knows these people are professionals, highly regarded, like judges, very well paid, and unlikely to skirt the legal process.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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CrazyGirlPerez says on Jan 6, 2006, 13:16:

how funny.. i am having samething kind of like that going on but the other was around.
my husband and i got married in Colombia. we were going to do it in Cartagena but something went wrong and i had to have another paper sent to me so we got married in San Andres isla, where he is from.
and over there all i need was a copy of my pastport and thats it.
it was crazy how easy it was to get married over there.
anyway. he will be here soon and my family wants me to get married through the church and have a big wedding..
but i see no need of getting married again.
anyway i'm not sure how we will do this. i'm trying to make my fam..(mom) happy. and have a big party.
but i'm not sure if i want to do the church thing..
anyway
good luck and hope all woks out

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flaleo says on Jan 6, 2006, 14:08:

Gator, thanks for the interesting stats - I had no idea about notaries...

But, there's no legal process - we don't want to do anything legal. We just want to pay someone to participate in our 'ceremony', someone who at least knows what to say and do in the 'role' or marrying official.

I was hoping someone here might already know of such a person in Medellin. Or, if not, they might suggest the best path for my research in finding someone.

Thanks

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toneloc24 says on Jan 6, 2006, 14:33:

Just hire an actor to stand in as priest Feed him his lines.

Especially since it's all pomp and circumstance for the family, and nothing legal.

Best wishes!!!

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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lpdiver says on Jan 18, 2006, 08:41:

Approach a priest... Non catholic and ask him to perform the ceromony. I am sure for a charitable donation it can be arranges.

Tony

"cook some rice!"

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flaleo says on Jan 19, 2006, 14:30:

Tony, great idea - thanks, if he'll do it straight (non-religeous, as she and I have conflicting religions) :)

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