Entre calles 72 y 100 y Circunvalar y Autopista Norte está 'zona roja' de paseo millonario en Bogotá

msaucey says on Sep 21, 2007, 08:01:

Hey... I just took a taxi in this area yesterday... I got off at the wrong station on the transmilenio and ended up on 125... I took a cab up to 105 and Autopista.... I´ll keep this in mind for my next trip.... Thanks!

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 09:15:

the person who wrote the above article is mistaken, is not in bogota, he meant paseo millonarios in barranquilla.
paseos millonarios en bogota, NEVER.
In bogota you could hop in any taxi you want with out any concern.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 21, 2007, 09:33:

Here's what I don't get:

If it's such a friggin' epidemic, why don't the cops just set up a sting? Put some stupid looking gringos out there with $100 bills and platinum Amex cards falling out of their pockets as decoys. Then NAB the modefoques who try to Paseo them?

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Rob77 says on Sep 21, 2007, 09:38:

Any gringo volunteers for the decoys?

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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webmanco says on Sep 21, 2007, 09:54:

Bogotá has Paseos millonarios because aparently people here work harder are better paid therefor got more money. :-) .

Nowdays you don´t even need to drive a car or ride a taxi you could just be walking and qualify for a little trip around the corner.

Of course a few foreigners would´n mind a "paseo millonario" but to a motel and by a voluptuous colombian woman.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 11:40:

Ok ok, guys from Bogotá, let me get this straight.
You think looking out for gangs, paseo millonario, writing down license plates etc, is all normal precautions for going out in ALL COLOMBIA, right?
THAT'S FOKIN INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
GEE WILEKERSSS, HOLY CRAPPP!!!!
Now I have even more respect for you guys than ever before, you are some fearless modefoques.
If I was told that going out for dance, food and drink might get me kidnapped and forcibly made to withdraw all my money, HELLL NOOOO I AINT GOING NO WHERE, LEAVE MY ASS HOME.
HELL NO I WONT GO!!!
HELL NO I WONT GO!!

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 11:40:

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 11:46:

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 11:46:

When I leave a club in barranquilla at 3:40 am with a hooker in my arm and hop in any of the many taxis in front of the club, the only thing I’m worried about is that I’ll be able to find the damn Viagra rubbers and stash that I left in my hotel room

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robi666 says on Sep 21, 2007, 11:55:

Ecce cuadro, tu me decepcionas... que guardes esa vaina en tu cartera y lo tomes a la salida de la disco... así cuando llegues a tu hotel estas ya listo para la rumba de verdad...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 21, 2007, 11:57:

That's what's known as the Curramba Paseo Millionario, isn't it?

The other thing that always made me cringe is that the Colombian government doesn't count such a thing as "kidnapping" but, rather, as "robbery."

I'm sorry but if someone holds a gun to my head and drives me around for hours hitting ATMs, or slips me Burrundanga, empties my bank account and then leaves me in my underwear in a park in el Centro, I'd feel KIDNAPPED, not just robbed.

I guess just because you don't get to spend 6 months out there with Mono Jojoy it doesn't count.

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webmanco says on Sep 21, 2007, 12:01:

I you don´t have enough time to write a diary, it does not count. :-)

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 12:02:

you know, being taken for a paseo millonario in bogota is a lot cheaper than having a barranquillera "girlfriend" jejejejej

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 12:08:

Someone puts a gun in my face and takes me to my bank with out my consent, that thar is kidnapping!!
Now if that modefoque puts a gun in my face and ASKS or suggests we go to my ATM machine, then is just plain ol robbery

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 12:09:

Someone puts a gun in my face and takes me to my bank with out my consent, that thar is kidnapping!!
Now if that modefoque puts a gun in my face and ASKS or suggests we go to my ATM machine, then is just plain ol robbery

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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elmodefoque says on Sep 21, 2007, 12:15:

rubi, you're kidding? taxis in NYC scary.
the worst chit that ever happend to me was the ndian driver smelling like so much fokin curry had me nausious, almos threw up.
I've taken hundreds possibly thousands of taxis IN BARRANQUILLA, NOT ONCE was i ever concerned, NOT ONCE.

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Robert Jorge says on Sep 21, 2007, 21:58:

Bogota taxi drivers made me nervous ... and the only time I got screwed (money-wise) in Colombia was by a Bogota taxista. My experience in Villavo was similar to Elmo's in quilla. I rarely had a worry. Hell, a lot of the times if I was getting a cab at 4am, the driver had his wife and their sleeping child with them. I know - Villavo is small compared to the big cities - but it is still decent size. 350.000 isn't exactly a pueblo. I had nice conversations with a lot of the taxi drivers. They would make fun of my Spanish and have a good laugh. But I never had that wierd gut feeling you get when something isn't right. And if they did try and take me around to hit all the ATMs, they would be pretty stupid. The ATMs are all locked after 10pm in Villavo. And I would never carry a credit card on my person anyway. I will bet anybody an Aguila that they can't prove that there is an assessable ATM in Villavo after 11pm. It is a safe bet - I know I am right and there would be no way to prove me wrong anyway, barring extreme measures. jajaja

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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webmanco says on Sep 22, 2007, 09:14:

It is pretty bad when you leave your debit cards at home, and you find yourself needing money desperaly.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Robert Jorge says on Sep 22, 2007, 09:57:

Rubito, at times, Villavo has had more traffic fatalities than any other city in Colombia (different years in the past). Crime-wise, I'll have to try and find your posted stats. I don't recall you posting stats for Villavicencio. I must have missed them. But anyway, stats aside, like most places, it is as safe as you make it. Of course, with just plain bad luck and being in the wrong place at the wrong time, bad things happen. When your number is up, your number is up. With my habits, the environment I was in, the way I carry myself and the company I keep - all those circumstances combined, I felt pretty secure in Villavicencio. Not so much in Bogota.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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goin_south says on Sep 24, 2007, 00:07:

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Where do we go from here?

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Robert Jorge says on Sep 24, 2007, 01:07:

Well, then I have lived, and will live again in the most dangerous city in Colombia. Take a trip down Rubi, I'll introduce you to some people, buy you a beer. You don't even realize, I qualified what I said, by stating I didn't read your stats ... nor did you take that into consideration, judging by your response.

And yes, I "felt" and "feel" safe in Villavo. I am sure I could go find trouble if I wanted to. But I "felt" safe enough to sleep on a chair, on the sidewalk. I had the "illusion" of security enough that I was able to perform daily tasks and live life of a normal person for quite some time when living there. I was able to rent an apartment. Take taxi rides several times a day. Walk up and down streets at all hours, without problems. Certain bars knew us by name. Family was always around, or within 3 minutes and a phone call.

If a person were to dress up like a narco, wearing lots of jewelry in Aguapinelas, and act boisterous and like a dick, they might risk getting robbed or kidnapped. My buddy, who did that in the past, had it happen to him. It cost him $15,000 I think. And he was born and raised in Villavo. You go into Aguapinelas acting all arrogant and full of yourself - yep, you have a really good chance of having a bad ending to your evening. I didn't act like that, so I had the "feeling" of being OK.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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Aaron21 says on Sep 24, 2007, 01:40:

Trusting anything written or reported by "officials" or "reporters" in Colombia or anywhere else about crime and crime statistics is completely foolhardy. Government and its opposition each have motives that completely skew these "statistics". The only good source in Colombia or New York, or anywhere else are the people on the street. The people (Roberto Jorge et. al.) know what is going on in Colombia - believe them. I know for a fact that you can take a taxi in any part of New York City and have less of a chance of being a "statistic" than if you made your own way home - believe me! Anyone who believes otherwise is, as I said, foolhardy.

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Robert Jorge says on Sep 24, 2007, 01:49:

Thanks Aaron21.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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goin_south says on Sep 24, 2007, 06:45:

you're being nice, Aaron.... like the monkey says.
and, Thanks.

Where do we go from here?

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Aaron21 says on Sep 24, 2007, 09:31:

Rubito, my point is that governmental entities (such as NYPD) and its detractors (such as Reverend Al Sharpton) do many things to change the presentation of crime statistics in favor of their political position at the time the statistics are compiled. Each classifies crimes differently (i.e. a violent robbery becomes a benign burglary) and even go so far as not reporting crimes at all. Many murders in New York are not included in statistical reports - deaths are classified as "suspicious" or "inconclusive" to lower murder rates.

My stance on the taxi issue is that real yellow taxis in any part of NYC are safe. Livery cabs are questionable. And, yes, it is safe in NYC to walk straight out of a club and get in a yellow taxi anywhere in NYC (the problem is that the yellow cabs do not go everywhere in NYC - lol...)

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