El Tiempo Punto Com (egolatria y su protagonismo)

vicshere says on Mar 4, 2008, 12:35:

didn't Hussein get coverage for days and weeks ...its normal..people like to see death and destruction

listo

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juancegomez says on Mar 4, 2008, 12:36:

I think it's more about sensationalism than "paramilitarism".

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webmanco says on Mar 4, 2008, 12:41:

We need to have access to different points of view

http://www.elcolombiano.com.co/BancoConocimiento/O/olac_castro_acusa_a...




Fidel Castro acusó a E.U. de operación en frontera con Ecuador

La Habana, Cuba
El ex presidente cubano Fidel Castro acusó a Estados Unidos de "cometer un monstruoso crimen" en Ecuador, en un artículo divulgado este martes por medios oficiales, en el que asegura que "bombas yanquis, guiadas por satélites yanquis" mataron allí a 21 guerrilleros el sábado.

"Bombas mortíferas fueron lanzadas en la madrugada contra un grupo de hombres y mujeres que, casi sin excepción, dormían. Eso se deduce de todos los partes oficiales emitidos desde el primer instante. Las acusaciones concretas contra ese grupo de seres humanos no justifican la acción", asegura el líder cubano.

"A sangre fría -prosigue- nadie absolutamente tiene derecho a matar. Si aceptamos ese método imperial de guerra y barbarie, bombas yanquis dirigidas por satélites pueden caer sobre cualquier grupo de hombres y mujeres latinoamericanos, en el territorio de cualquier país, haya o no guerra".

"No somos enemigos de Colombia"
"No somos enemigos de Colombia", advierte el ex mandatario, y señala que tanto él como el actual presidente de Cuba, su hermano Raúl Castro, se atienen "a una política declarada de principios y de paz, proclamada desde hace años en nuestras relaciones con los demás Estados de América Latina".

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 4, 2008, 12:43:

did they forget how the Criminals of the Farc killed so many innocent people a sangre fria!!!!

this is a joke!!!!

engage brain before opening mouth

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podborski says on Mar 4, 2008, 12:45:

just because you are confused by information webmanco, don't assume the rest of us are

The real truth is you don't like this news much do you?

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webmanco says on Mar 4, 2008, 12:47:

I don´t celebrate the death of anyone, for I am no one to judge. Life goes on.

I am not as confused as those wanting war and the death of soldiers without a cause, is like bodyguards, sometimes they don´t know who are they risking their lives for.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 4, 2008, 12:48:

I do, specially the people that have been killing innocents for years, they got what they deserved!!

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webmanco says on Mar 4, 2008, 12:56:

As I stated before, If Colombia had taken "guerrilleros" prisioners alive, even if they where brought from Quito, we would not had been in this "war" with neigbhoor countries.

Another reason not to get so happy about it.

If they were brough up to justice while alive, that would be a different history.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 4, 2008, 13:00:

how come we could have brought the guerrilleros alive from Quito when Correa is helping them?


and if so then they want the guerrilleros in the intercambio humanitario and we go back to square one....

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robi666 says on Mar 4, 2008, 13:02:

I always found El Tiempo to be leftist...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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tomtom33 says on Mar 4, 2008, 13:07:

Hell, if Ecuador had turned them over to Colombia, their space would not have been violated.

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huskie says on Mar 4, 2008, 13:14:

I would not read "El Tiempo" for good information, too sensasionalist and exagerated. IMHO
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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webmanco says on Mar 4, 2008, 13:21:

how come we could have brought the guerrilleros alive from Quito when Correa is helping them?


Well Granda was brough from Venezuela.

The time wasn´t right to go and kill, but to go and bring them would had been wise.

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tejasmarcos says on Mar 4, 2008, 13:46:

how do i profit from all this sh#$? ;)

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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huskie says on Mar 4, 2008, 13:48:

El Tiempo has a lot of good information if you are looking for "Beauty Queens" contest articles and photos.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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podborski says on Mar 4, 2008, 13:49:

most people don't mourn the deaths of terrorists, serial killers, mass murderers.

webmanco would prefer that Hitler, Stalin, Pinochet, Idi Amin, Jeffery Dahmer etc were still alive I guess

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webmanco says on Mar 4, 2008, 14:12:

Podborski get a gun and go out and make justice yourself, wild wild west, so you will be happy twice. You seem to be good at jugding, why not go all the way istead of pointing fingers.

Hitler, Stalin, Pinochet, Idi Amin, Jeffery Dahmer, there are lots like them go out and clean the world, Podborski world´s savior.

No desearle el mal a nadie, does it rings a bell??

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Monpirri says on Mar 4, 2008, 14:45:

Webmanco, I really enjoyed reading this thread, yes we have to be careful with the information we digest and the source where it is coming from whether if comes from Colombia: Bogota, Barranquilla, Medellin, Amazonas or Washington, California, New York, Peru or Italy because there is big differences in perspective and consequently history will printed in black and white as per the management and the broadcasted news will have some sort of a personal or perhaps a political signature of the event. That’s why it’s more educational to watch three or four different networks.
I also agree about not celebrating the death of a human being, I think in the medieval era the barbarians used party about it.

MAC

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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huskie says on Mar 4, 2008, 14:51:

In my opinion, Monpirri, this guy was no human being, he was a monster!
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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podborski says on Mar 4, 2008, 16:31:

of course I judge people, how could you not?

I suppose you walk around in a daze all day handing your money out to anyone who tells you of a great investment scheme. Or maybe you see a guy with a knife threatening a woman and you say 'oh I can't judge that man, maybe the woman deserves to be stabbed'.

You're judging me all the time, as you should. Too bad you're a hypocrite about it.

The term 'lack of judgement' refers to a vice not a virtue.

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webmanco says on Mar 4, 2008, 16:37:

For every action there is a reaction, war is war, and neither party has been free of cruelty, I keep minding my own business, ejoy your time in Buenos Aires, Colombia don`t really needs third parties judgig and getting all excited with our troubles.

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podborski says on Mar 4, 2008, 17:46:

Neither Colombia nor you have any choice in the matter of what I choose to do.

But I suspect more colombians agree with me that Reyes' death is a good thing, as opposed to your view that is more aligned with Chavez.

You're free to try to pretend I am in favour of war, I've said nothing of the kind, quite the opposite in fact.

You're just not thinking straight, I suppose because you are mourning the death of this terrorist.

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webmanco says on Mar 4, 2008, 18:19:

You can aligne me with the devil if you wish, I don´t relay in others agreeing with me. Yes I am still wearing black, if that makes you feel fine.

PD
just because you are confused by information webmanco, don't assume the rest of us are

Speak for yourself

I am neither glad or sad.

LIFE GOES ON !

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cali373 says on Mar 4, 2008, 19:24:

Claudía López is probably better off being censored or else she will be killed by paramilitarism.

Donlt you understand it is ok to censor if it protects the status quo, but once the status quo is not poretected by censorship as what happened with that TV station in Venezurela that supported an undemocratic coup, then it is NOT OK.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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webmanco says on Mar 5, 2008, 04:03:

Poema



Guerra en Colombia


Cuando no se quiere divulgar una verdad como deberia hacerse, entonces solo se menciona en un espacio de 40 segundos o un tiempo reducido para que no quede en la memoria. En cambio cuando se quiere manipular se repite una noticia una y otra vez. La noticia si es veridica y concisa con el fin de informar es bienvenida, pero cuando presenta incoherencias o se manipula para crear cizaña entonces, la noticia se convierte en basura.

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webmanco says on Mar 18, 2008, 06:21:

http://www.eltiempo.com/politica/2008-03-18/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR...
Marzo 17 de 2008

Personaje de la foto con 'Reyes' no es Gustavo Larrea: se trata de un dirigente comunista argentino


No era quien parecia ser, falta de profesionalismo por parte de El Tiempo en situaciones delicadas.



La Dirección General de la Policía Nacional emitió un comunicado en el que asume que el documento gráfico fue suministrado por una fuente de esa institución. EL TIEMPO ofreció disculpas al ministro.

La institución ordenó una investigación interna para establecer quienes fueron los responsables de la entrega de la fotografía y de la información sobre la misma.

El personaje que apareció en la fotografía es en realidad el dirigente comunista argentino Patricio Etchegaray.

El verdadero personaje

La fuente de la Policía que suministró el documento señaló el domingo que este era parte del material hallado en los computadores de 'Reyes' incautados en la operación en su contra en Ecuador.

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billyb says on Mar 18, 2008, 07:11:

"Well Granda was brough from Venezuela. "

Webman, do you even read the news? Do you know how Granda was brought from Venezuela? Did you know i caused almost s big a diplomatic ruckus as this one did?

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webmanco says on Mar 18, 2008, 08:09:

I do read the news but fortunately don´t believe everything it is printed.

I know how Granda was brough "kiddnapped" from Venezuela, it is better to get criminals alive, bring them to justice, and if they are to be brought from another country, even the more alive is the way to go.

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Colombiche says on Mar 18, 2008, 08:20:

En cuanto a la muerte de Raul Reyes, el que a hierro mata... a hierro muere. Si yo me dedico a matar a otros seres humanos en nombre de una "revolucion" tengo que estar dispuesta a dar mi vida por la causa, porque mi vida no esta por encima de la de ninguna de las personas a las cuales les estoy quitando la suya.... no creen?

En cuanto a la calidad del reportaje de las noticias......he notado que desde que la casa editorial El Tiempo se asocio con Grupo Planeta, el periodico se esta convirtiendo en un pasquin.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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webmanco says on Mar 18, 2008, 08:26:

Desafortunadamente u afortunadamente más bien así es, "el que a hierro mata a hierro muere CB" además Guerra es Guerra. Pero cuando un ente es del gobierno debe de sopesar muchas cosas antes de actuar, más aún cuando se trata de sobrepasar las fronteras.

Si soy robado por un ladron que no es policia, vaya y venga, pero si me roba un policia, la cosa tienen un tinte más peligroso. De allí se desprende que los entes militares de cualquier pais deben de actuar bajo las normas legales vigentes, es cierto que de repente algunos entes de países vecinos miraban para el otro lado, aún así se pudieron haber hecho las cosas diferentes. Muy tarde para llorar sobre la leche derramada y a lo hecho pecho. De todas formas la participación de Uribe en el Grupo Río me gusto. Sobretodo el dicho, La cobardía de la agresión.

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