Ecuador and Venezuela choose FARC over Colombia

manINred says on Mar 2, 2008, 22:35:

That being said any war is seemingly unlikely

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7274209.stm

0 funny, 0 helpful.

manINred says on Mar 2, 2008, 22:37:

To think that I used to have respect for Correa.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

kalder says on Mar 3, 2008, 01:29:

Commies.

No such thing as a good one. Unless they're...blah, blah, blah.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

0 funny, 0 helpful.

robi666 says on Mar 3, 2008, 02:47:

It hurts. But they showed their real faces.
At least, all the politics parties and people from Colombia made one united block around Uribe.
I hope that they won't succeed in watering things in front of the International community.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

0 funny, 0 helpful.

robi666 says on Mar 3, 2008, 03:18:

Partidos políticos rodean al Gobierno colombiano en crisis con Venezuela y Ecuador
Información relacionada
Venezuela cierra embajada y moviliza tropas a frontera con Colombia; Ecuador retira embajador
Mientras el partido liberal ofreció su respaldo al presidente Uribe, el Polo le pidió a Chávez "serenarse y recapacitar" sobre decisión de cerrar embajada en Colombia y militarizar la frontera.

El director del Partido liberal, el ex presidente César Gaviria, reiteró en un comunicado su respaldo al Gobierno para afrontar las crisis diplomáticas y le pidió a Chávez "respeto por el presidente de Colombia".

Gaviria le dijo al Gobierno de Venezuela que "la lucha contra las Farc es un asunto de asegurar la prevalencia de las instituciones democráticas" de Colombia. Al gobierno ecuatoriano le pidió "comprensión para entender la muy difícil situación que vive Colombia para enfrentar una guerrilla terrorista, narcotraficante y de una crueldad inaudita".

Gaviria expresó en nombre del liberalismo su apoyo al Jefe de Estado colombiano y precisó que en las acciones de la fuerza pública como la que dio contra 'Reyes' "nos sentimos interpretados y defendidos por el gobierno del presidente Uribe. No alcanzamos a entender cómo pueden las acciones de nuestro gobierno y nuestras Fuerzas Armadas, ser interpretadas como un acto de agresión contra Venezuela".

El presidente del Partido Conservador, el senador Efraín Cepeda, se declaró sorprendido por las decisiones tomadas por Chávez y señaló que cada vez son más incoherentes.

Este es un tema entre Ecuador y Colombia. No hay explicación para que un tercer país tome decisiones, y menos tan drásticas, porque cerrar la embajada en Bogotá significa rompimiento de relaciones", dijo Cepeda.

Cepeda añadió que "Colombia debe recurrir a organismos internacionales como la ONU o la OEA para que se analice un tema en extremo delicado, porque conociendo al Chávez podría tomar una decisión".

Serenidad y recapacitación

El presidente del Polo Democrático, Carlos Gaviria, rechazó también las expresiones usadas por Chávez contra el mandatario colombiano, cuando lo llamó lacayo, criminal, mentiroso, mafioso y paramilitar. "Ojalá el Presidente Hugo Chávez se serene y recapacite", dijo.

"Yo soy el Presidente de un partido de oposición pero nosotros debemos tener presente que al Presidente lo eligieron los colombianos y que el Presidente no puede ser tratado de una manera tan irrespetuosa por Jefes de Estado de países extranjeros y mucho menos vecinos", dijo Gaviria.

Incluso, Gaviria le pidió mesura al mandatario venezolano. "Encuentro exagerada la reacción del Presidente Hugo Chávez. Ojalá se serene y recapacite", dijo Gaviria.

Y añadió: "Nosotros hemos admirado mucho su acción política y la mediación que hizo en el caso de la liberación de los secuestrados, pero que justamente para seguir siendo útil en el proceso conflictivo de Colombia sería altamente deseable que asumiera actitudes más mesuradas".

http://www.eltiempo.com/conflicto/noticias/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

0 funny, 0 helpful.

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 3, 2008, 04:59:

sad that Hugo is trying to divert ARMY troops to the borders so his FARC pals can breathe a tlittle !

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

0 funny, 0 helpful.

tasco66 says on Mar 3, 2008, 05:00:

The war rhetoric by Correa and Chavez is just a smoke screen to hide their their obvious cooperation, support and protection of a terrorist organization.

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

morphus says on Mar 3, 2008, 05:00:

A 1.8 km breach in a fokin jungle? Thats really nothing. Ecuador should have been watching its border in the first place.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 3, 2008, 05:19:

NY times about the movement of troops

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/03/world/americas/03farc.html?_r=1&ref=...

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

0 funny, 0 helpful.

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 3, 2008, 05:26:

Remember Myles Frecchette?

Myles Frechette, a former ambassador to Colombia who works as a consultant in Washington, said the Colombians probably weighed the strike on Devia against the potential fallout from going into Ecuador. But he said repairing the diplomatic damage would be a challenge.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/02/AR2008...

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

0 funny, 0 helpful.

El Polo says on Mar 3, 2008, 06:03:

After the attack Colombia immediately offered the "cover up" to the international communty, Farc was initially engaged on the Colombian side of the border, Colombian forces then came under fire from FARC who crossed over into the Ecuadorian side, and engaged them as well, pretty simple IMO. Correa should have just STFU, and the news would have eventually boiled down, instead he shows his true colors. How many Ecuadorians were killed in the mist of all this?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 3, 2008, 06:20:

Exactly polo so the Ecuadorian government should be also condemning the FARC for enter their territory.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 3, 2008, 06:25:

what i don't understand is why Venezuela have been so affected? The Colombian army as far as i know haven't been invading their territory.. ese Chavez want is war, but hopefully will never come to that, But Chavez is the one "puyando" the Ecuadorian president making this into a big THING!!!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

billyb says on Mar 3, 2008, 06:39:

I'm glad this has finally forced la rata de correa y el simio de chavez to show their real face and now we know what we are dealing with in ecuador and venezuela and know not to trust them one bit.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 3, 2008, 06:47:

Chavez wnats to divert troops from cornering FARC to the Venezuelan border

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

0 funny, 0 helpful.

billyb says on Mar 3, 2008, 06:52:

if colombia moves more troops to the border, it will have a double effect. I t will put chavvie on notice and at the same time they can serve to close the frontier to the FARC, which uses the venezuelan side of the border for R & R and and resupply. colombia should have had troops clogging that border a long time ago, same as the border with the rats in ecuador.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

El Polo says on Mar 3, 2008, 06:54:

Ecuador is now a safe haven for terrorist

0 funny, 0 helpful.

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 3, 2008, 07:05:

but Chavez will move troops in Guajira not by the Orinoco...
That`s how Chavez supports FARC crazzy Bolivarian project

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

0 funny, 0 helpful.

podborski says on Mar 3, 2008, 09:02:

exactly kat.

let's see, 1) armed FARC guerillas (a legitimate foreign army according to Chavez) cross into Ecuador
2) Colombia military gets them out of there
3) Chavez complains about Colombia and starts warmongering.

What has any of this got to do with venezuela? I guess Chavez already thinks he is in charge of Ecuador too. And still no word of complaint about the FARC incursion on foreign territory.

we all know Chavez is full of hot air and won't do anything, so it's nice for all to see in the open what he really stands for, as if there was any doubt before.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

huskie says on Mar 3, 2008, 09:03:

more news here

http://www.france24.com/en/
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

0 funny, 0 helpful.

morphus says on Mar 3, 2008, 09:06:

I would rather see this guy in charge of Venezuela

0 funny, 0 helpful.

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 3, 2008, 09:17:

Nicaragua`s ex-foreing relations minister says that they don`t have anyting to do in an unprobable war between Col & Ven.

http://www.elnuevodiario.com.ni/politica/9789

“Definitivamente, Nicaragua debe guardar distancia de ese conflicto, porque en primer lugar, yo lo que veo es un involucramiento venezolano en asuntos internos de Colombia�, expresó Pallais, al ser consultado por EL NUEVO DIARIO.

“Eso nos confirma la línea de que Chávez está buscando una confrontación militar con Colombia, y nos eleva la preocupación como nicaragüenses, de que el gobierno de Ortega quiera involucrarse a ese proyecto de confrontación�, manifestó.

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

0 funny, 0 helpful.

LDW says on Mar 3, 2008, 09:25:

This could very well be an opportunity to force FARC into staying in Venezuela, in which case I am sure Colombia would be happy to let Hugo have them.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 3, 2008, 09:28:

a dream come true LDW

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

0 funny, 0 helpful.

morphus says on Mar 3, 2008, 09:39:

If FARC are such great revolutionaries, Chavez should let them have Venezuela.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

orestesdd says on Mar 3, 2008, 11:05:

Send FARC to Cuba...I say

0 funny, 0 helpful.

manINred says on Mar 3, 2008, 18:18:

Further news:

ECUADOR CUT TIES WITH COLOMBIA

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7276228.stm

0 funny, 0 helpful.

cali373 says on Mar 3, 2008, 18:40:

morphus, or in charge of the U.S. for that matter.

Smile if you are a thinker!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

donkeyrinse says on Mar 3, 2008, 18:57:

one won't catch any pearly whites on this thread....

0 funny, 0 helpful.