drugs and colombians

poco says on Aug 19, 2005, 15:18:

One More A second thread today dredging up memories. Opportunities and regrets.

ALL the Colombians I’ve meet HATE drug use. The destructiveness on the poor is horrendous. Colombian effects of drug use are worse than the U.S. because there is not much in the way of HELP. NOT even family. Next trip I’ve requested she arrange a tour of the local prison for her 17 year old son. She has hammered the consequences into his head but a little more shouldn’t harm him.

Me,, I'll never allow a "thing" to rule my life.

Commendable you analyze experiences. One method of self determination.

Many judge themselves in their own mind by believing: IF ONLY, I SHOULD HAVE, I DIDN”T. Placing blame on ones self will have no positive effect.

Don’t let these thoughts become destructive. Example:

A Colombian purchased his son a new moto. His son died in an accident. He believes if he hadn’t had the money to purchase the moto his son would be alive today.

This thought is understandable, just don’t allow it rule your life.

Life is a learning experience. With Luck, some take the opportunity to learn from others.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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sen says on Aug 19, 2005, 23:42:

Visa rules I come from Sri Lanka -- and I have developed this modern proverb, sort of -- if you are a Sri Lankan, you need a visa even to go to hell.
But we are not suspected of being drug smugglers -- rather refugeess -- kinda modern day terrorist hell bent on destroying the western civilisation.
I am right now in Colombia,and have met such wonderful people. And they are proud of hteir country, which is very good.
Eventually, hopefully, they will find their way out of their current predicament.

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quindioman says on Aug 20, 2005, 01:34:

thanks for replying to the original post.

Zagarise....why do you have such a bad reputation here at pbh?

Poco...you do realise that I'm cockney_colombian? My eyes opened completely when I saw you reply to this post....I thought you were going to completely rip me to shreds...I will admit to being slightly intimidated by you, you don't mess about do you....but thanks for the reply...and that prison tour would be right on the money in my opinion.

Sen....yes unfortunately it is not just Colombians that have a useless passport...apparently the Sri Lankan isn't too useful either...consider yourself lucky you ain't North Korean or something....sometimes this stops me bitching too much...if you think you have it bad there's always someone who has it even worse!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Aug 20, 2005, 01:52:

quindioman give that little miss MJ a kick in the butt and out of the door with her! You don't need her in your life. Madame Coke and Miss MJ like to park their behinds on your sofa for a long time after their welcome has worn off so it's you who's got to show them the door. Same goes for Mr. Tobacco and Mr. Booze but with those two you can break the bond easier and it's good for the self-esteem to take a break on any chemical dependency just to show who's the boss if not for anything else.
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Sylvie says on Aug 20, 2005, 02:30:

"PEOPLE DO NOT SMOKE DRUGS ON THE STREETS OF COLOMBIA. Believe it or not doing drugs in full public view is a taboo in Colombia, strictly reserved for those poor souls that gave up on life and are confined to the streets, with nothing but cardboard and a sack full of crap for company."

That quote makes me realize how liberal of a city I live in. The other night I was sitting in a parc next to the salsa club downtown. I was with quite a few friends and most of them were smoking joints. The police came over and told us that we weren't technically allowed to smoke in the parc but we were allowed to on the sidewalk or the street. Then he said "sorry guys, I know you want to sit down but I'll have to ask you to smoke this outside of the parc."

Funny how different countries that are so close together can be.

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thethieves says on Aug 20, 2005, 06:35:

Quindoman I feel your pain
Having a brother and cousin who are wasting away their life's on the "herb," I know your frustration and pain. Fortunately, you are at that crossroad where you can still wakeup and walk away from it. My brother is in the UK "hustling" and is in his 40's on the other hand my cousin got deported from the USA an event which sent is mother to an early grave. My brother and cousin can never hold down a steady job because it is simply about the "vibes" the clarity with which they pontificate the happening in the world, but albeit never doing anything to contribute beyond getting by.

Your crossroad is that you can still achieve your goal in life becuase you still have father time on yourside. You have made the first step in reflecting on what could have been hey but that all water under the bridge. Tomorrow holds a brighter future and you have began that journey toward that light.

Good luck for I know it is a difficult journey, but is that not the nature of life.

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tomtom33 says on Aug 20, 2005, 08:12:

Guess we have something else in common. I, too, am a drug addict. My drug of choice is alcohol. By the grace of God, I have not consumed any alcohol for almost 21 years now. Abstinence from drugs is easily my greatest achievement in life.

I went through a hospital in-patient drug treatment program in 1984. There are many ways to get clean. Keep trying.

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CaryGrant says on Aug 20, 2005, 10:36:

quindioman Thanks for your honest post.

Pot, unfortunately, is addictive for some people, as is alcohol. Some people can smoke a joint or knock back a few drinks occasionally; others seem to have to do it every day. People get addicted to many things: drugs, gambling, sex, love, fear, alcohol, other people....

Honestly, I suspect you're only mildly physically addicted to MJ, but it helps calm certain fears, including the one that you're wasting your life away. I have noticed that many highly sensitive individuals who see and seek truth struggle to cope in this world, because there is so much corruption and unnecessary suffering.

Q - give yourself some time, look inside, and see what it is that you are afraid of. That is why you smoke. Do you have certain expectations of yourself, likely put there by your parents and society, that you feel guilty for not living up to?

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 20, 2005, 23:02:

Speaking of Sri Lanka - M.I.A. rocks!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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poco says on Aug 21, 2005, 08:10:

Maybe - Maybe not I suspected you were CC. People can't veil detailed Colombian knowledge, unless they attempt to say NOTHING or something factually wrong. Ha,, ha, ha, a weakness. Tough isn’t it?

Few posters, no matter the name, have the insight and skill to support their words in a manner that allows the reader to mentally visualize the subject.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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quindioman says on Aug 21, 2005, 12:57:

THANKS! everyones feedback, thank you very much.

Desi: yes, she's definately overstayed her welcome. However, I really feel struggle with the cigarettes, I mean when I work I smoke like a chimney, but when I have days off I don't smoke any cigarettes just mj.

Sylvie: you know young people in Colombia can do what those kids were doing in the park, the reason it doesn't happen is the fear they have of being "voletiados", believe me the shaming of marihuaneros in Colombia goes a long way to keeping the drugs off the streets, in my opinion it's the biggest deterrent. So what happens is the kids that do smoke drugs in Colombia have to "dissapear", they have to go and smoke the drugs where the coffee grows along with the plantains.

thethieves: thankyou for the encouraging words...i too have siblings that consume drugs. Being the oldest means that if the younger ones start emulating your bad habits you get the blame. This is pretty much what's happened in my family. I have 2 brothers..one is married and with a kid but he doesn't listen to me...in fact just last night he told me he had "the pure" and he was selling...i was quite dismayed to find out he was back on selling cocaine...i told him he ain't gonna be happy until he ends up behind bars. The youngest one is another ball game altogether, we don't speak....he's a real shitbag, odds of him ending up in jail are very high, he doesn't need to sell drugs to attract the law's attention, he seems to do it very well regardless.
I feel for you as well my friend, it's the family of the drug addicts that take a battering as well, maybe one day my mother can forgive me for all the headaches I have given her

tomtom33; I appreciate your input in this thread. I too would consider giving up drugs my biggest ever achievement..the day I do it.
My dad is a recovering alcoholic as well, in fact all of my dad's family were cursed by the alcoholic beverage (including the women), what makes it worse is that it was a pretty talented family producing bussinesswomen and no less than 3 professional footballers , 2 of which played for Once Caldas and Millonarios...he was even called up to the national squad once!

Carey grant: you maybe on to something...my brothers are very happy doing what they do...they have no regrets. Perhaps the reason why I do have problems is the fact that I squandered a LOT of talent. A lot of hopes and expectations were pinned on me. I was quite the student and made immense progress in primary and secondary school, my talents were not confined to the classroom, if anything they were exceeded by my performances in sport, you name it I was a natural at it representing my school in football, rugby, athletics (15,000m), cross country (3k), cricket, tennis, swimming. I really could have done what I wanted but accomplished nothing. I believe this is why I beat myself over this so much, so much promise, so much potential and all squandered.

I will conquer my demons with the help of God, and this Paisa still has an ace or two up his sleeve...

Poco...it is tough indeed....hehehe

THANKYOU EVERYONE!!!
QUE DIOS ME LOS BENDIGA

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CaryGrant says on Aug 22, 2005, 21:54:

I know whereof you speak I absorbed a lot of expectations from my parents. I didn't even know what *I* wanted - in anything - until my second divorce work me up. What kind of work suited me, what kind of woman, what I enjoyed doing...didn't really know what suited me.

I have grown up more in the last year-and-a-bit than in the previous thirty. You can do it, too. All that talent is still there; it's just waiting for you to claim it.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Aug 22, 2005, 22:12:

quindioman For your cigarette craving, Swedish snus/snuff could be a solution. Lots and lots of guys (also girls) use it. Take a look: http://www.swedish-snus.com/

It's incredibly popular here, especially with people in your age bracket.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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