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goin_south says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:21:

so what? tell us your plan, or how they did it? Colombians entering the USA illegally. No interest here, for purposes of duplication, but only out of interest. It's a long freakin raft-ride from Colombia to EEUU. HOW DID THEY DO IT? INS? Me? WTF is it?

Es el año, 2007: "El Año de Los Santos!"

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Azul says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:27:

I'm not suggesting doing it...... "It's a long freakin raft-ride from Colombia to EEUU", which is the very reason that I wondered how they do it.

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miamimike says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:39:

Couple cases here in Miami,,, This scenario, no longer possible(for maybe a couple years),,Buy a ticket to Spain via Miami or NYC only once in Miami or NYC , exit the Airport, forgetting to use the remainder of their ticket to Spain.Due to some Colombian Tourists exercising this Option, ALL Colombians now need a US Tourist Visa even to transit through Miami(nyc), if a stop is involved where they exit the plane on US soil for 2 minutes. Sadly this is causing a lot of inconvienence to law abiding Colombians wishing to transit thru the a US Airport. Selfish interests some have,,,They ruined this Option for everyone

In the past few years, our own Immigration agents were caught selling Fake Visas (one couple from Cali with US Citizenship)for $5k to $7K per Visa in the Miami Airport. The Husband worked for US Immigration in Miami(airport) when the person passed thru Miami it was pre-arranged they pass thru the Line of the person who sold the Fake Visa. This Agent and his wife were caught and are now in Jail but only after earning some $400,000+ USD. Two or Three Groups were caught working this scam but last I heard they were temporarily out of Business due to a lengthy Vacation in the Crossbar Hotel. Not to worry, some other scam is currently being played only waiting to surface,,, Actually another Lady who worked for the State Dept in Mexico City(but whose home was in south miami-Kendall to be specific)was caught selling Visas to several members(terrorists) of the FARC-they passed through Mexico enroute to the USA. These Visas it was reported in the Paper, went for $15,000 and Up. She(and the esposo) are also on Vacation in the Crossbar Hotel for a long long time it is reported,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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famsearch says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:43:

here's how they do it... they hop on a plane in bogota, stopping briefly in caracas, rio de jenerio, johnannesburg, alexandria, barcelona, rome, warsaw, berlin, oslo, dublin, london, new york, cleveland, des moines, little rock, tijuana, and finally arriving in miami. needless to say, the route changes on odd days of odd weeks...
dan

dan

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miamimike says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:45:

Famsearch-cannot pull this anymore They closed that Gap probably at least 2 years ago-maybe 4 years ago,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:48:

It's a shame to see such enterprise rewarded with jail time. I am sure that the people selling the visas were doing at least as good a job as the State Department's worthless employees. If we can't have a day when we get to kill the bureaucrat of our choice, how about one where we at least get to rough them up a little?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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goin_south says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:51:

dan, I got lost somewhere between Barcelona and Oslo... further explanation, por favor.

Es el año, 2007: "El Año de Los Santos!"

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goin_south says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:52:

and, we are wondering.... still no GREAT BIG BLIZZARDS IN MINN Es el año, 2007: "El Año de Los Santos!"

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miamimike says on Jan 19, 2007, 21:54:

UTC-Don't Worry the Spirit(for Visa monkey business)is alive and kicking here in Miami,,,LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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famsearch says on Jan 19, 2007, 22:28:

no blizzrads yet... but we have gotten about 4" of snow in the last week. my wife tells her friends back home that it's "just so pretty".

mm - i think that happened when they closed down the cleveland to des moines part... lol
dan

dan

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rmykita says on Jan 20, 2007, 10:33:

They follow the Mexicans. Most cases are done the same way. Fly to Mexico, and hire someone to take you across. Lots of overstayed visas as well..No surprises...

Ryan

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 20, 2007, 11:04:

they flight to Mexico and them they cross the border. there is a book called El Hueco "the hole" by German Castro Caycedo This book relates the colombian citizens' mass emigration to the United States, passing through Mexico

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goin_south says on Jan 20, 2007, 11:18:

Colombians can fly to Mexico without visa? Es el año, 2007: "El Año de Los Santos!"

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Lisa Zee says on Jan 20, 2007, 12:12:

El HUCO Anyone wanting to cross the Mexican border, must read "EL HUECO" and you will NEVER do it!. That is one of the scariest books I have ever read! Very old book. And, situations got even worsts these days.

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goin_south says on Jan 20, 2007, 14:45:

Since I probably am not going to find or make time to read the book, can one of you summarize what the book is about; en todo. (Don't save the ending, just to not ruin it for those reading! Tell All! I got too many other things to read, and ain't goin to the beach anytime soon - unfortunately). por favor, y gracias.

¡muerte a los osos este domingo!

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scotty says on Jan 20, 2007, 23:58:

Canada They come in through Canada

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Azul says on Jan 21, 2007, 11:37:

I've heard that some come in through Canada, but as far as I knew Canada was as hard (or harder) for a Colombian to get into. So they get to Canada under legal circumstances and then cross into the US illegally?? Doesn't make a lot of sense does it?

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goin_south says on Jan 22, 2007, 22:58:

azul.... shhhhhh......don' tell anyone...in The Administration hay un linea de colombianas ahorita... crossing the Manitoba/Minnesota border (if there is such a thing - don't have my map) right now, and I think they are going to be hiding at la casa de famsearch! (Dan, emailme, por favor, cuando llegan. Gracias, y lol.)

Muerte; Los santos son no más.

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JMCana says on Jan 23, 2007, 05:04:

Getting more difficult I have never interviewed anyone crossing from Mexico over the Texas border, but over a 5 year period interviewed several who crossed the border in California. It is getting more difficult. Twenty years ago many people told me they would just hide and wait until no one was looking and hop the fence. It seems now that the average payment for the help of a coyote is about $2,000 and the crossing conditions are not easy. Some have told me it took them 3 tries before getting successful. Fortunately the better coyotes do not collect until you are successfully over. Unfortunately the Mexican police and others have figured that out and rob the people who get caught and return to Mexico on the immigration bus.

Yes, there are some wide open border areas between the USA and Canada. Especially the Western States. As for the East part of the country, When the Detroit River freezes you can just walk across the river. In Marine City, Michigan I have watched people just take a short leisurely boat ride from the Canadian side of the St. Clair river to the American side.
But I have heard that it is very tough for a Colombian to get a Canadian visa now.

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Azul says on Jan 23, 2007, 10:54:

GUÍA DEL MIGRANTE MEXICANO http://www.sre.gob.mx/tramites/guiamigrante/default.htm

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