don't mean to be soggy toast, but dear ingrid is starting to put a bad taste in my mouth.........

sloopskipper says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:02:

I hear ya'!

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goin_south says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:08:

I think we all here on pbh had too many badassed english lit teachers, who taught us to be too damned critical of the world in which we live. Cynics All!

The world is indeed a freakin (over-thought) ghetto.

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:10:

Where has Gringoloid been? with his Conspiracy Theory on this topic?

GRINGOLOOOOOOOOOID!

Reallly... everyone did what they wanted to do, now why not allow her to do what she feels is needed?

Where do we go from here?

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GregYohn says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:11:

Hola!

Is she married still?

If my spouse was away from me for 6 years, I would expect to be with them when they returned.

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:11:

The woman wants to be with her kids in France after being kidnapped for 6 years and you're complaining???? Jeez.

Poor but snappy

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TobyBoy says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:22:

Yea, I am concerned with her behavior in France too. I happen to speak French too, so I have been following her statements as closely as possible, and though she HAS often mentioned her gratitude on numerous occasions to Colombia and its Colombian army “heroes (while in Paris),� we will still have to wait to see what she says and does further. I believe she may be returning to Colombia for the 20th of July festivities. It has been particularly sad for me to witness how wacked some of the statements of their family have been over time, even her own son Lorenzo said to France 24 (their equivalent of CNN) that he did not “…believe that the FARC are torturing my Mom.� Boy, you should have seen my commentary to that TV-station back then.
I still think Ingird may balance things out, but only time will tell.

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GregYohn says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:27:

Hola!

Did she have a baby while in captivity?

Its easy to get time off of work if your wife gets rescued. Are her children in France from the marriage of her present husband?

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:28:

Yes Peter they don`t understand, or comprehend for a minute what she went through!
since she got kidnapped, most of Colombia and here in this forum, has nothing but hate towards her.
France supported her from the first minute she was taken.

I see that in the future, every move she makes it is going to be criticised.

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Gator says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:31:

On RCN last night she made the statement, on landing and standing on the runway in Paris, "France is my home and you (the French people) are my family." Such statements will not and do not support her politically in Colombia.

She also thanked the French people/government for saving her life. Gee, I though it was members of the Colombian military. She can NEVER give enough thanks to the Colombian military. After all, it was not 100 French solders armed with day-old baguettes or pain Parisian who freed her. Oh well, what do I know.

Married? No, divorce about /910 years ago-husband is French and they met while she was in college or shortly after she was graduated in France.

A la larga se sabrá la verdad, pero no puedo ver mas nada a obscuras.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:33:

GregYohn says on Jul 5 (today): flag

Hola!

Did she have a baby while in captivity?

Its easy to get time off of work if your wife gets rescued. Are her children in France from the marriage of her present husband?


oiga John usted si que anda bien perdido eh? jajajja

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:34:

Lisa Zee says on Jul 5 (today): flag

Yes Peter they don`t understand, or comprehend for a minute what she went through!
since she got kidnapped, most of Colombia and here in this forum, has nothing but hate towards her.
France supported her from the first minute she was taken.

I see that in the future, every move she makes it is going to be criticised.

I agree Lisa

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:39:

Betancourt in her own words

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7487204.stm

she say thanks to everybody....

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:40:

ok

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jonny305 says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:45:

dwmte7 you right on
she should thank Colombia and the US!!

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:46:

Kat1: most of the people that "hate" her, do not have any idea who she really is, I wonder how many people has read her books, like the one "Until Death Do us Part" her straggle to save Colombia!.
She could had a wonderful life and stay in France, but she chose to come back and fight for her country, she strongly believe she could change it,.... and he rest is history. You all can hate her, but I would advise you to read and get more informed about her life!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:46:

It's always been like this with Ingrid. You either hate her or love her, there's no grey zone there. I thought her critics would be pleased to know how much the guerrilla disliked her because in all those years of captivity, being chained, very ill, losing her will even to live NEVER played their game. They could not break her will. I have no idea why people hate her so much and yet adore and worship another strong-willed politician, like Uribe. Wrong...Colombians seem to be changing their mind about Ingrid, her popularity rate was 70% as she stepped out of the helicopter, fresh as a morning glory, with words of praise and gratitude for COLOMBIA, the Colombian army and soldiers and President Uribe.

She's a remarkable woman whose reputation has meticulously been worked on by the Uribista supporters, the Colombian media to make her look like a fool, "una irresponsable", almost a criminal to remove any responsibilty from the shoulders or the Beloved Messiah for her kidnapping. Yet, she was a Senator with the highest voting account ever in Colombia, her party and her work was just getting started and even if she was not loved by everybody she had enough support and recognition to move ahead as a politician.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:48:

Amen!

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Simon says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:50:

Desi, just thinking about how frustrating it must be for you having to listen to Ingrid thanking Uribe for her rescue makes me laugh, hahahaha!

"Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:50:

The problem with Uribe has never been that much himself, his personality, his style of leadership (even if I do not personally like the populistic leadership personalities...between him and Chavez there's just about a 90degree angle, but they are very much products of a similar political culture), it's always been the people who he surrounds himself with, Santos, Hommes etc and especially, his SUPPORTERS.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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dwmte7 says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:54:

i certainly bear nothing resembling hate towards her....that's something i bear for noone. nor do i pretend to know the intensity of her experience in captivity...nor do i find anything wrong wih her being in france...for a long or a short time...or for that matter, forever. what i found totally absurd were the comments of her indebtedness to the french.......what indebtedness, i ask?

dwmte

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Simon says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:54:

Santos? The Defense Minister? That guy's also a hero! You should have seen how smooth he came off on Larry King Live!

"Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr.

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gabolicious says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:54:

Can Ingrid run for colombian presidency with colombian - french nationality?

Elección no canonización....

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aztec says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:55:

Well some of didn't care for her long before she volunteered to save FARC! My point is that before she became a hostage we believed she was a light weight. She was not bad intentioned but rather misguided. Normal behavior of those poor souls who believe there is no evil in the world that cannot be resolved via negotiation and compromise.

I personally hope she does run for President of Colombia. That is the only way we will know if the people of Colombia trust her abilities enough to support her. It hardly matters what I think or even those Euro experts.

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Simon says on Jul 5, 2008, 10:58:

"Normal behavior of those poor souls who believe there is no evil in the world that cannot be resolved via negotiation and compromise."


I agree 100%!!

"Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr.

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gabolicious says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:05:

The thing here Aztec is that Uribe is really loved guy in Colombia (he is changing a lot of things that most colombians never thought would ever happen while live and kicking) Colombians are thankful to Uribe for these and other things (regardless if he has political interests or not in this rescue but what colombian people really wanted was to see our country free, etc, etc)

When Ingrid thanks France some people feel like if she were backstabbing Uribe and Colombia, either you like Ingrid or not I am, as colombian, really proud of the things that are happening now and that is what we have to celebrate.

Elección no canonización....

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MaFe says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:06:

Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 5 (today): flag

The woman wants to be with her kids in France after being kidnapped for 6 years and you're complaining???? Jeez

Really? Her kids flew to Colombia!

DWM I agree with you 100%!! Good posting!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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gabolicious says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:07:

If I were Ingrid, as soon as they told me "you are free" I would have had a heart attack!

Elección no canonización....

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Medellin Traveler says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:08:

Gator says, "On RCN last night she made the statement, on landing and standing on the runway in Paris, "France is my home and you (the French people) are my family." Such statements will not and do not support her politically in Colombia."

I don't see that as a big deal, kind of liken it to when a band comes to town, they always shout things like, "Nebraska, you guys are the greatest fans! Nebraska rules! I love Nebraska!" Only she's a politician.

Love her or hate her, she will be back in Colombia actively fighting to improve life in Colombia for ALL Colombians.

Interesting article on Ingrid Betancourt.
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Ingrid Betancourt: What Fearless Is
The news Wednesday that Ingrid Betancourt and other hostages had been freed in Colombia made me think of my meetings over the years with her. Talking with her was inspiring, and also a bit scary. She was so determined to combat wrongdoing, and so heedless of the consequences of doing so, that you almost knew something bad was going to happen. But she survived it (that's not a surprise, either) and now she's out and her friends rejoice.

I first met Ingrid in December 1999 at my office at the Washington Post. She wanted to talk about the rampant corruption that was destroying political life in her home country of Colombia. She brought along a stack of documents, and we spent several hours going over them and preparing a memo that I could share with my Post colleagues in Latin America, who might be able to pursue the story.

As we talked that day nearly a decade ago, Ingrid began to share her personal story. She had grown up in Paris as the daughter of Colombia's ambassador to France. After university (where her friends included Dominique de Villepin, later France's prime minister, who was the person who had sent her my way) she had married a French diplomat. She could have returned to an easy life of power and wealth in Bogota -- if she had been willing to make her peace with the corrupt politicians who ruled the country.

But Ingrid doesn't do compromise. She began a political career back home as a reformer, and after she was elected to the Colombian House of Representatives in 1994, she began asking questions about an arms deal that had involved big commission payments to prominent political figures. Then she began investigating whether Colombia's drug lords had financed the campaign of President Ernesto Samper, who was ruling the country at the time. Samper was eventually charged and tried by the Colombian congress. (Colombia's Chamber of Deputies later cleared the charges.)

Ingrid began receiving death threats in 1996, as she was pursuing her campaign against Samper. One arrived in a crude letter in June 1996, with a warning that her family would pay a price for her actions. Inside the envelope was graphic documentation of what that threat might mean.

"There was a Polaroid of the body of a child, torn apart," she told me in one of our conversations. I asked if she meant that the photo had been torn apart. "No," she said. "The child was torn apart."

She evacuated her children from Colombia the day after she received that letter. But she didn't stop her campaign against the drug mafias and corrupt politicians. She kept talking to journalists about the corruption that afflicted her country. And she wrote a book, "La Rage Au Coeur," which became a bestseller in France when it was published in 2001. (It was translated into English in 2002 as "Until Death Do Us Part: My Struggle to Reclaim Colombia.")

Ingrid's friends worried that she was taunting people who were killers, and warned her to be careful. But as I said, she was not a person who was capable of compromise. I remember talking with her in Paris in 2001, when she was promoting her book. She brushed tears out of her eyes as she remembered that horrific threat to dismember her children, but she said she wouldn't think of easing her crusade.

"There is always a difficult question of why we do things in life, especially things that are dangerous and difficult," she told me. But it wasn't in her to stop, or pull back.

She decided to run for president of Colombia in 2002, as a way of taking her crusade for justice to the country as a whole. During the campaign, she decided that she would go to a demilitarized zone in the jungle and try to meet with the FARC guerrillas, who had been waging an insurgency that was devastating the country. That was typical of her--to meet the scariest of people, face to face, in the belief that by her raw courage, she could transform the situation. Many in Colombia warned her not to go, but she wouldn't listen. She was kidnapped by the FARC on Feb. 23, 2002.

Now she has been freed, and returned to what we like to call "normal life." But anyone who thinks she won't keep battling for justice -- anyone who thinks that the years in captivity have somehow softened her, or blunted her spirit -- doesn't know Ingrid Betancourt. These are the people who change history -- the ones who refuse to bend, and instead make events bend around them. We should watch for the next chapters in the story of this remarkable woman, who with luck will be a political force in Latin America for many years to come.

David Ignatius - Washington Post
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"There was a Polaroid of the body of a child, torn apart," she told me in one of our conversations. I asked if she meant that the photo had been torn apart. "No," she said. "The child was torn apart."

SHE FIGHTS AGAINST THESE SICK BASTARDS!

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:10:

Aztec, she was on her way to a political rally amongst her supporters in FARC-controlled territory. There was a point she tried to prove, but got herself kidnapped instead. She has NEVER had any FARC sympathies but she was not going to let them intimidate her from joining with her constituents in Caguán. It was her inexperience and her pride that put her in that situation.

Simon....that would be very unfair and one-dimensional of me. I aknowledge and give credit to Uribe for having pulled off this rescue with such flying colors. See, it didn't hurt one litle bit!

What I just said about NOT having that much problem with Mr. Uribe himself, but mostly with his supporters...

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:11:

Desi i was one of those who didn't support her, and i was one of those who criticized her for going to the jungle, but knowing the ordeal she went through i can only wish her well, she is a remarkable woman seeing her talking so emotionally and thanking everyone it has change my image of her, i don't know if i will vote for her if she runs for president i won't do it for just for Sympathy, i will listen what she has to offer then i will decide but for now i just wish her well in her personal life

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juancegomez says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:11:

I really think people are reading way too much into her thanks for France, which she has all the right in the world to give, as if that contradicted her previous and quite publicized words.

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gabolicious says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:13:

Kat, whenever Ingrid comes back to politics we will see... in the meantime if I were her I would eat sancocho and arepas and aguapanela.... =)

Elección no canonización....

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jonny305 says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:15:

MD the difference is that she wants to be president of Colombia she lost my vote!!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:16:

juancegomez says on Jul 5 (today): flag

I really think people are reading way too much into her thanks for France, which she has all the right in the world to give, as if that contradicted her previous and quite publicized words.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:17:

Gabo i am sure she will!!!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:22:

That's only fair, kat. I doubt that in case she gets back on that track that she's want people voting for sympathy.
It has been pretty mainstream Colombian thing to bash Ingrid, just because that's what everybody else has been doing too. You hear it on TV, as Uribe's popularity grew and he himself put the blame on Ingrid only for her predicament how all this muttering about Ingrid just got louder and louder. She has been blamed of everything possible, of being secretely in cahoots with the FARC, of having a secret FARC lover, the gossip had her reputation lower than dirt....

but such are the hearts and souls of Colombian people, she steps out of that helicopter in total control of her emotions with words of gratitude and relief and thanking her GOD and the VIRGIN first of all, Uribe and the military next...and suddenly she is loved by everybody.

She flies to France to reunite with her children and thank Sarkozy and the French people of NEVER LETTING ANYBODY FORGET her captivity, for putting on pressure on the FARC, or their relentless efforts for trying to get her free and tongues start to wag again....now it's bad Ingrid again, not patriotic enough, not grateful enough.

Gods....people, walk that proverbial mile in her shoes before you start putting her down again.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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gabolicious says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:25:

Desi in Colombia if you love Uribe then they love you, if you don't sympathize with him or are against him they you are attacked...

Elección no canonización....

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:30:

well said Desi

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Portena says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:32:

She's clearly an extraordinarily brave person with a will of steel. Maybe she seems to be in such a hurry to get back to France because she needs to be in a country where she can feel *safer* while she makes plans for the future. Having been immersed in danger for so long she needs the opportunity to chill out and get her thoughts straight in order to to determine if she will continue her crusade for social jusitce in Colombia. Having time to be in the loving embrace of her family may help to speed the emotional healing process.

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george jung says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:53:

Yeah and she has not said one thing grateful to PoorbutHappy.com (some)members for all the prayers these past 6years, where is her gratitude to us genuine heart felt prayers for her, thanks Ingrid (please come back soon to Colombia,some of us welcome you)

"Men and fish are alot alike, when they open their mouths, they both get in trouble"

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gabolicious says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:56:

LOL jung

Elección no canonización....

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 12:50:

Portena says on Jul 5 (today): flag

She's clearly an extraordinarily brave person with a will of steel. Maybe she seems to be in such a hurry to get back to France because she needs to be in a country where she can feel *safer* while she makes plans for the future. Having been immersed in danger for so long she needs the opportunity to chill out and get her thoughts straight in order to to determine if she will continue her crusade for social jusitce in Colombia. Having time to be in the loving embrace of her family may help to speed the emotional healing process.

EXACTLY!

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dwmte7 says on Jul 5, 2008, 13:00:

my wife was on the phone with the family this a.m and there's much ado about her comments about france. that has nothing to do with her going to france, wanting to be in france or with her family, or where ever....only that she said she owed everything to france.

well, i've opened my mouth many times in my life and stuck my foot in it. why can't she?

dwmte

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 5, 2008, 13:18:

jajaja dwmte... can we forgive her?

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huskie says on Jul 5, 2008, 14:06:

What an ungrateful fool!. France did not do anything!!!! Sarkosy is taking all the glory, he thinks by doing this he will be president of the EU, he is nothing but a clown. The Colombians and the USA did a hell lot more than those pieces of rotten fruit. He is not very popular in France and many other countries as well. Soon enough we will hear the negatives instead of all the positive crap that has been credited to that cretine Frenchman. Have never heard her say "Thanks" to the US for providing millions of US tax payers money so all this kidnapings, illegal drugs, terrorism etc stop finally Colombia may live in peace? Who provided the most sophistacated technology for her rescue? France? Is France going to provide for the next hostages rescue? Bet not, they do not give a sh** about the rest of the people.
The more I think about this circus, the more I feel like puking and sh***g my pants. Pardon mon Francais
She wanted to save her own agenda and cry and cry so more so people feel how wonderful, smart, and, bla,bla,bla, now, what is she going to do about the rest of the people in the jungle? Well I hope she plays and directs a commando to attack the Farc, since she says she has a PHD in Farc, and Mr Sarkosy provides the money for the operation. We will see
Cheers and Farc Ingrid and the rest of the cretines

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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MaFe says on Jul 5, 2008, 14:08:

Huskie..I admire your spirt and stand on this! I agree 100%

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Lcacique says on Jul 5, 2008, 16:14:

How sad that there are people attempting to tie Ingrid to the FARC, an organization that she vehemently opposed long before she was kidnapped.

Gator: "She can NEVER give enough thanks to the Colombian military."

I think Gator's comment spells it out quite clearly, especially with the capitalization of the word "never." She could spend the rest of her life giving thanks to Uribe/the Colombian military/and the US and certain people on this site would still complain that she is not appreciative enough.

And the logic that we have to kill all of our "enemies" is both naive and dangerous. You know the one you hate, you look more like him every day! Funny that the hate one feels for the enemy often causes him/her to act in a manner that is equally despicable.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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huskie says on Jul 5, 2008, 16:28:

And who is stating hate here? We just disagree, not hate my informed friend
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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billyb says on Jul 5, 2008, 16:32:

"almost a criminal to remove any responsibilty from the shoulders or the Beloved Messiah for her kidnapping.'

Desi, I know accuracy matters little to you if it gets in the the way of critcising Uribe, but just so you know, "the beloved messiah", known as Uribe to most of the rest of us, wasn't president when she was kidnapped. How could it have been his fault in any way??? Or do you normaly refer to Pastrana as the "messiah" LOL.

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CatGirl says on Jul 5, 2008, 16:54:

Good thread to read guys. Again, I am only an observer and for now take an undecided position. So far, she sounds like she is a driven individual. It would be interesting to see how she emotionally copes with returning to Colombia.

In regards to anyone who has been through what she has been through, I really would not expect any of her actions or words to be in "synch" (sp) with what would be considered appropriate. She has been cut off from the flow for a long enough time now - where she will more than likely step on some sensitive toes. She may still be attempting to grasp the whole idea that this is real! It is not uncommon for a person to go through what she did to feel as if they are in a dream like state and just going through the motions.
Add all the media and politics - S**t!! I'd be taking Ativan, Valium and Xanax! jejeje...

Kitty is curious if this traumatic experience will make her more callous or more sensitive....hmmm

Either way, until she recovers, I plan on not taking anything she does with more than a grain of sand, cause she is not thinking clearly and will not be for a long time to come. I hope she takes at least a one year break from media.

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Lcacique says on Jul 5, 2008, 16:56:

That is a lyric from a song, huskie. However, I think it rings true in many cases. We often behave exactly like our "enemies." In addition, the hate part of my comment was not in reference to Ingrid, it was in reference to the comments that were made above about the FARC and the idea that the only solution is the death of them all. With respect to the FARC, I think it is safe to say that we are talking about hate my informed friend.

While I never claimed that you hated Ingrid, after reading the long list of comments you have written about her it is hard for me to accept the idea that you simply disagree with her. That's just my opinion, I assure you that I do not care if you hate her, love her, disagree with her, etc.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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dwmte7 says on Jul 5, 2008, 17:55:

yawn.....

i still haven't figured where "hate" intered the discussion....who said anything about hate, outside of kat an lcacique?

we all need an icecream break. here here

dwmte

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CatGirl says on Jul 5, 2008, 18:03:

Psst...took me a bit to figure that one out too Douglas.

*Note to kitten: Hate is a 4 letter word and can create all kinds of mess when spoken or read.

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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huskie says on Jul 5, 2008, 18:05:

Never heard of that song or lyrics, I simply disagree with all that mumbo jumbo nonsense. I hope she recovers from all the trauma she went through.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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dwmte7 says on Jul 5, 2008, 18:27:

just out.......ringo's celebrating his 68th birthday....damn he's a bit ahead of me...just a bit.

dwmte

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 18:41:

I must be a typo, huskie waned to say "love Ingrid" not "Farc Ingrid", right? Even if she keeps on writing the same thing.

LCACIQUE: you are brilliant!!!!!

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 18:42:

VIVA INGRID, VIVA COLOMBIA!

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Lcacique says on Jul 5, 2008, 18:56:

I do not think it is any stretch to say that certain people on this post hate the FARC. Not a real shocker, and the FARC have done a lot to deserve such sentiment.

huskie unfortunately assumed that I was talking about her feelings for Ingrid, when in actuality I was making a general statement about the situation with the FARC and the methods used to deal with them (something that Ingrid was involved in, dialog/negotiation, and has been criticized for). Sorry for the confusion, and sorry if anyone was offended or felt like I was targeting them with the comment.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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huskie says on Jul 5, 2008, 19:02:

Lisa says: I must be a typo, huskie waned to say "love Ingrid" not "Farc Ingrid", right? Even if she keeps on writing the same thing."
I think is your spelling not my typo, waned= what does that mean? me don no
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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dwmte7 says on Jul 5, 2008, 19:02:

hey lisa............thanks for the call. made my afternoon. i was sitting on my back porch watching the birds in my underwear. nothing like daytona. in a couple of weeks, we're moving to LPGA, an unfortunately luxorious community where most of the inhabitants think their shit don't stink. cant sit in the yard in my undies there. we live on the 13th fairway.

dwmte

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 19:25:

huskie: It must be a typo, huskie wanTed to say "love Ingrid" not "Farc Ingrid", right? Even if she keeps on writing the same thing.

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 19:27:

dwmet7, it was a pleasure talking to you and you lovely wife also. Good luck with your move.

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huskie says on Jul 5, 2008, 19:32:

No, I said " Farc Ingrid", not "love ingrid", can't you read either? Stop with the nonsense already, Do not want to hear any more comments from you. Click on blocked and that will take care of you seeing my posts or comments. I strongly encourage you to do that, and maybe we can stop being at each other's throat.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 19:48:

You must have me confused with someone else I have not said anything to you at all, I just made this last comment. I have ignored you since you told me to "figure it out myself", when I ask you a simple question.

" I strongly encourage you to do that, and maybe ?we? can stop being at each other's throat"???????!!!!!!

You can put me on ignore dear, because you are delusional!
No me gustan los conflictos, y no soy peleadora. Estas peleando contigo misma! No voy a contestarte nada de lo que me quieras decir, porque no me gusta discutir con NADIE. Gracias.

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huskie says on Jul 5, 2008, 19:57:

and please do not call me dear. Thank you
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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george jung says on Jul 5, 2008, 20:32:

Huskie, I have read many your responses and never thought you delusional type person, but someone thinks your opionions are delusional and that maybe you are a (dear) delusional person that can not state your own opinion without being criticized, but watch it she is one of the mods fav

"Men and fish are alot alike, when they open their mouths, they both get in trouble"

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 5, 2008, 21:44:

Dear george, I was not referring to any of her comments in PHB, it was more of a personal thing tha she created. But whatever, peace, peace in the world.

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MaFe says on Jul 5, 2008, 22:17:

george jung says on Jul 5 (today): flag

Huskie, I have read many your responses and never thought you delusional type person, but someone thinks your opionions are delusional and that maybe you are a (dear) delusional person that can not state your own opinion without being criticized, but watch it she is one of the mods fav
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WOW!! Why is Huskie delusional? Because she has a brain? Because she speaks her mind? Please! Get obver yourself the owmen speaks from personal experience..

VIVA COLOMBIA
Al Carai con Ingrid!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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dwmte7 says on Jul 6, 2008, 03:59:

que pena...mucha lucha aqui. paz es mejor.

dwmte

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aztec says on Jul 6, 2008, 05:37:

If Huskie is delusional she has a lot of company here, me included!

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george jung says on Jul 6, 2008, 07:40:

Aztec, you are right, if you read alot of real stories of interest here on PBH and weed through the garbage, you notice that alot of members are delusional, sarcastic, and egotistical in their opinions, as if their opinions and statements are the only ones that are correct. Most good,real life members are not allowed to disagree, without getting their a$$ chewed off

"Men and fish are alot alike, when they open their mouths, they both get in trouble"

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CatGirl says on Jul 6, 2008, 10:32:

Ladies, I think there is enough room in the sandbox for us all to share and have a place. Let's be good to each other and supportive ;))

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 6, 2008, 10:41:

Aux les Français je dis, vous pouvez manger la merde.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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rocinante says on Jul 6, 2008, 10:50:

merde - I like that.

UTC my fav poster. Good to see you back. How's the Brady Bunch treating you?

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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huskie says on Jul 6, 2008, 11:06:

Bravo, Bravo, UC, Le dis de je de Français des d'Aux, le mangeoire de pouvez de vous la merde.
Je consentire qu'ils peuvent aller à l'enfer.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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george jung says on Jul 6, 2008, 11:19:

Welcome back senor UTC, glad you are back and noticed they kept your membership date and your info intact, shows that they still loved you even though you left for awhile. Wish you well, Jake

"Men and fish are alot alike, when they open their mouths, they both get in trouble"

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 6, 2008, 11:56:

Cool, UTC is back!

And good to see Gabo back too.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 6, 2008, 20:43:

heh, cowboy, long time, no read.....how's the tribe?

dwmte

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slguy says on Jul 8, 2008, 11:39:

yea, but.....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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goin_south says on Jul 8, 2008, 12:26:

oh! and so is slguy

Where do we go from here?

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pavo says on Jul 8, 2008, 12:31:

Is Ingrid's French native or second language quality? I really hope she stays in France. French is the right place for Ingrid. Maybe she could run for office their since she is their national heroe and all.

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MaFe says on Jul 8, 2008, 16:02:

pavo (newbie) says on Jul 8 (today): flag

Is Ingrid's French native or second language quality? I really hope she stays in France. French is the right place for Ingrid. Maybe she could run for office their since she is their national heroe and all.

Good point!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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MitchAlvarez says on Jul 8, 2008, 21:23:

Shes getting me mad too.

Quedate por alla en Francia montañera malagradecida.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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