dog attacks

Mononoke28 says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:42:

Uhmm... I don't think so. I was attacked by a freaking monkey that was chained to a tree and nobody did anything about it. Like nothing had happened.

Of course I have to admit I was throwing bottle caps at the poor thing but still. You would think my parents would've raised hell about it, or at least take me to a doctor.

Nope, nobody even flinched.

Diana

morphus says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:57:

People kill dogs for fun in Colombia and nothing happens. People kill dogs for fun in the U.S. but risk time in prison if caught.

vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:00:

I believe the laws are the same except ...suing someone who has nothing is not going to get you too far

listo

morphus says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:02:

Even if you kill the attack dog in Colombia, the owner of the dog will most likely put a bullet in you. Colombians are like that.

msaucey says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:14:

Like Vic mentioned, the laws are almost the same... The administering of them is more laid back I'm sure...

http://www.aiphltda.com/Ley746.htm

Article 108-L. If a potentially dangerous dog attacks another dog, the owner shall be punished by the competent municipal authority with a fine of up to two (2) times the minimum monthly wage and will be obliged to pay for all the damage to the mascot (dog). If the dog has rabies will proceed to euthanasia confiscation and slaughter of animals by the authorities that the town councils designated for that purpose.

Article 108-M. If a potentially dangerous dog attacks a person inflicting permanent injuries of any kind, we will proceed to euthanasia confiscation and slaughter of animals by the authorities that the town councils designated for that purpose.

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

Bill Turley says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:34:

I had the misfortune that My dog was walking with some friends on our road.. A man who was afraid of dogs came up the other way. I suggested that he wait with me for a few minutes. He declined, picked up some stones and went up towards Wrinkles. My "little" baby does not accept aggresion at all. Zero tolerence. When the other person started to throw the stones Wrink caught his hand and bit his wrist. Sort of a preemptive strike.
We subsequently had a inspection from an authority at the local health department, we had a visit from a representitive of the police department, we them had to appear at a municipal office to give a deposition,then returned to find the outcome. We had to pay for the man being unable to work for 11 days (60,000) that settled the matter.

Mr. Bill Somondoco

vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:47:

bill you paid because you are a gringo... a normal Colombian wouldn't have paid...or even got to the authorities....they knew you had money...so that changes everything...us gringos are held up to a different standard when it comes to law and suing

listo

Bill Turley says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:55:

I really don't think that was a factor. The young man was a trouble maker and even his brother woukld not support him. I really only paid about half of his med costs

Mr. Bill Somondoco

Bill Turley says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:56:

I know how strong Wrinkles is and how much damage he can do

Mr. Bill Somondoco

vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:02:

yea but another Colombia would have kicked the other guys ass for throwing rocks....since your a gringo you can do that....your suppose to know better...which you

listo

mranderson says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:07:

I was wondering because yesterday I was on a nature hike with some friends and my wife when 3 dogs surrounded me and my wife on the verge of attack. The owner was running after the dogs yelling for them to stop so I just stood there real stil with my wife while the man was trying to get his dogs under control. Still, one of the dogs managed a bite at my wife's leg. It didn't cut her but ripped her pants open.

I think if I would have had a knife or machete with me I would have taken a stab at the dog that bit her during that moment. Even though the owner was basically right there.

vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:10:

anderson care a big stick when you go for a walk

listo

morphus says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:16:

Shoot the dog with pepper spray.

mranderson says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:18:

That's a good idea morphus. I also read somewhere that it's very hard to hit a dog with pepper spray and it usually makes the dog madder. But it's worth a shot right?

vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:30:

go with the stick man

listo

morphus says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:31:

Unless its a doberman, German Sheppard or pitbull, theres not much to worry about.

tomtom33 says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:35:

This is hilarious. Colombians in general don't seem to give a shit about any laws. The laws apply to the other guy, not them.

mranderson says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:38:

vic- yea a stick is a good idea too. In fact my friend told me I should grab one in case of dogs but I honestly couldn't find one anywhere. The forest was picked clean. The only thing I could find were twigs or branches that were just too big to carry. I didn't think it was really that much of a threat since none of my friends grabbed any sticks either.

The dogs were not dobermans, german sheppards, or pitbulls but they looked pretty dangerous to me.. Especially with 3 of them.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:47:

There was an incident in Cali when a beggar child was ripped in pieces by a doberman as the boy went in through the gate and rang the doorbell. I don't recall the owners of the dog been punished for anything.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

spigrimace says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:52:

I think you guys underestimate the law system here. If living here, go ahead and get a woman pregnant and see how fast it takes for you to be dragged into the Comisaria Familiar to pay support. If not living here, you can be a wuss of a man and run away but if you live here and have property and assets, you will pay.

mranderson says on Mar 25, 2008, 11:06:

what do you think an owner of a dog would do if I killed his dog that was attacking me right in front of him. Even though he was trying to stop the dog?

Bill Turley says on Mar 25, 2008, 11:31:

If you ever see a mature Bull Mastiff that is upset with you, forget a stick, forget pepper spray, a machete would leave an injury to him but provoke an all out attack ( Bad News). My baby can ignore pain. I have seen him jump through a 3 strand electric fence, willing to take the shock in order to get to the other side. With a stick he would grab it and either take it away from you, throw you to the ground or crunch it in two. Remember this baby is 200 lb all muscle, he can clear 5 ft if he tries to. However he loves people, try to make friends and he will be your buddy.

Mr. Bill Somondoco

kalder says on Mar 25, 2008, 11:51:

When cops in the UK raid drug dealers, they use carbon dioxide fire extinguishers on the dealers' dogs.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

tomtom33 says on Mar 25, 2008, 12:29:

Why do I underestimate the legal system here?

1. Coomeva has over 1 million pesos of my money. It has been nearly 2 years now.

2. Avianca has 250K pesos of my money. It has been 3 years now.

3. Bancolombia has 9 million pesos of my money. It has been 7 months now.

Or is it that the legal system works for Colombians but not for extranjeros?

kalder says on Mar 25, 2008, 13:25:

9 million? That's scandalous! What happened there?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

tomtom33 says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:15:

Someone inside the bank stole the money from the account of my novia. I think that the bank is ready to give me the money back. However, they will not do so until my novia gets her cedula. She lost it and got a replacement contraseña maybe 5 months ago. Colombia is in no hurry to get the cedula done. And WTF does she need the cedula anyway?

The Colombian mind fuck is alive and well.

Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:26:

How about "pre-emptive strike?"

I would take out a dog just for looking funny.

Why wait for the dog to bite you, your wife, or child 'cause the owner is irresponsible?

I HATE IRRESPONSIBLE dog owners 'cause they think everyone should love their dog.... especially in the states.

This one time... I was jogging down the street minding my own business and this dog came running up to me, snapping at my leg, I stopped running kicked him across the street as the onwer came running up. He started screaming at me because I kicked his dog, and I told him if you would have CHAINED YOUR F'ING DOG UP, I NEVER WOULD HAVE KICKED HIM!!!

Hope the wife is okay.

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Bill Turley says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:09:

Medellin
I respect your feelings.
I would however caution you not to try to kick a mature bullmastiff. My little friend would probably dodge the kick and grab the back of your ankle. Remember he is a skinny 210lbs. He can jump more than 5 ft vertical, in the heat of a dog fight I have seen him clear 6'4". These are very fast, agile and strong animals. They more resemble a Mountain Lion than most other dogs. He is not a noisey yapping type of dog, if he plans on an attack you would not have much warning. I do have him behind a chain link fence and a 3 strand electric fence.

Mr. Bill Somondoco

Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:14:

I'm not crazy... hell no would I ever try to kick a bullmastiff, not even in my dreams.

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DavidM says on Mar 25, 2008, 16:04:

Colombian dogs understand the meaning of a rock. Any time you are approached by an aggressive dog just pick up a stone, or fake picking up a stone. The dog will usually run away. My Colombian fiance taught me this.

It even works in Costa Rica. While traveling alone in Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica,I was attacked by a dog. I just faked picking up a rock and the dog scrambled to get away.

I guess it's a Latin thing.

Bill Turley says on Mar 25, 2008, 16:29:

That behavior is what precipated my dog's attack. He just does not accept any aggression. Give him affection and he will be your buddy. I have had many visitors to my finca and never have we had a problem. Our only problem is with our housekeeper. Wrinkles is my protector and protector of my things. Don't try to get into my car without my OK. By the way he is my constant copmpanion.

Mr. Bill Somondoco

pedro says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:01:

Tomtom, have you considered your novia applying for a passport instead of a cedula to speed up the process?

My gf managed to get a passport while waiting for a lost cedula to be replaced. The Colombian passport number is set up to be identical to the recipient's cedula number. I'm sure this would serve as valid ID for the bank, and it's issued on the spot or within a couple of days at most.

¡save pow wow!

pedro says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:05:

Speaking of cedula hassles. During the last election, my gf was issued a convocation to work at a local polling station. She ended up being one of the most important officials that certifies everything for that location.

In spite of that responsibility, she didn't have the right to cast a vote herself. Reason being, her cedula was lost. It's been 9 months so far and I don't think she's received the new one yet.

¡save pow wow!

chrispej says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:24:

"How about "pre-emptive strike?"

I would take out a dog just for looking funny."

Very funny! Most Colombianos take out gringos the same way........

Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:38:

chrispej,

It's taken from..... The Bush Administration Handbook

Killing is their business... and they like it.

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Robert Jorge says on Mar 25, 2008, 23:31:

All the street dogs I encountered in Villavo were very skitish. I think they were just in survival mode - and knew at any given time a taxi driver might try and run them over.

Bull mastiffs are cool. You can wrestle with them and really be physical, and not have to worry about hurting them. They are very good natured and extremely intellegent. The two reasons I wouldn't own one are: I can't afford the food, and I don't like the slobber. They also have a life expectency of about 10 years, maybe less .... and it is pretty hard to lose a dog you love. I had a German Shepard for 13 years. I had to put him down 2 years ago, and it still bothers me.

I have a blue heeler now (Australian Cattle Dog). Beavis is pretty smart, great personality. He's a great catter too! Here is a picture of him posing very serious.

Robert Jorge says on Mar 25, 2008, 23:32:

Don't ask me why the pic is huge. I have no idea.

RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 23:34:

Why is the pic huge...??

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

Desideria (Moderator) says on Mar 26, 2008, 02:15:

Because you posted it default size. Next time, when posting pics with tinypic choose the size for message boards from drop-down menu. (640x480). Thank you the PBH member who instructed me a while back:)

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

tomtom33 says on Mar 26, 2008, 05:18:

Thanks, Pedro. I never thought of that.

jack_jason says on Mar 26, 2008, 06:11:

Do not worry, in Colombia, dogs do not like fast food.

This is just spanglish, please do not correct me

Bill Turley says on Mar 26, 2008, 08:11:

An additional comment from Somondoco on this topic. The comment about Bull Mastiffs eating a lot, not true. My baby eats about 14 kilos a month, with food available all the time. Extreamly intellegent is no joke. He listens to conversations between my wife and I and reacts to them. If I as her if she is ready, Wrinkles thinks we are ready to GO and he is. Another word he reacts to is coming he runs to look and see who is coming

Mr. Bill Somondoco

webmanco says on Mar 27, 2008, 14:35:

I put the blame always on human beings regardless of the dogs breed, this time a criollo :-)

http://www.eltiempo.com/nacion/oriente/2008-03-27/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_IN...
Marzo 27 de 2008

Perro mordió en el rostro a una niña de 14 meses, en zona rural de Bucaramanga

En las próximas horas será sometida a una cirugía plástica en el Hospital Universitario de Santander, en donde ingresó anoche miércoles hacia las 10 de la noche, según fuentes oficiales.

El médico Libardo Arenas dijo que la niña presenta heridas en la parte derecha de su rostro y cabeza, específicamente en la quijada, mejilla, oreja y cuero cabelludo.

"La niña está estable, anoche se le atendió inicialmente, pero hoy pasará al quirófano a manejo definitivo por cirugía plástica para una corrección más adecuada de sus heridas a nivel de la cara para disminuir, lo más posible, las secuelas por estas heridas", dijo el galeno.

La niña estaba sola y fue atacada por un perro, presuntamente del vecindario y de raza criolla.

BUCARAMANGA

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

webmanco says on Mar 28, 2008, 05:21:

Marzo 27 de 2008

Más de 30 niños estuvieron en contacto con gato contagiado de rabia en Santander de Quilichao

http://www.eltiempo.com/nacion/cali/2008-03-28/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTER...




Foto: Juan Carlos Quintero / EL TIEMPO

Un niño murió, otro más está grave, tres están en observación y a 29 más les fue aplicada la vacuna antitetánica.

Mientras otro menor que tuvo contacto con el felino se encuentra grave en Cali, las autoridades están realizando una jornada de emergencia de vacunación de animales en Santander de Quilichao.

La historia del pequeño gato que espanta al tranquilo municipio de Satander de Quilichao (Cacua), porque le habría transmitido el virus de la rabia a un niño que falleció ayer, comenzó la tarde del 15 de febrero.

Ese día varias niñas advirtieron que un gato criollo, amarillo y negro, de pocos meses, estaba en uno de los baños del colegio Instituto Técnico.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am