does anyone else find it offensive to be called GRINGO?

tejasmarcos says on Jul 6, 2008, 19:38:

i personally like cracker myself or honkey lips ;)

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 6, 2008, 19:45:

is that woody's favorite dish?

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scott321 says on Jul 6, 2008, 19:49:

I don't mind being called Gringo since I am one.

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SUERTE GRINGO says on Jul 6, 2008, 19:51:

testing456 do you wear a dress? I am proud to be called a GRINGO because I have no allusions as I am very much aware that I was very lucky to be born a white man unlike so many other races out in the world who are discriminated against because of the color of their skin. When you understand the definition of gringo get back to us again and tell us how much it bothers you and why. Man up 456! - Lucky Gringo

“If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs."

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gringoloid says on Jul 6, 2008, 19:58:

this is my new friend medo, who calls me gringo all the time.

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MaFe says on Jul 6, 2008, 20:11:

tejasmarcos says on Jul 6 (today): flag

i personally like cracker myself or honkey lips ;)
==

Je je I never heard honkey lips!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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clyde says on Jul 6, 2008, 20:18:

gussak, pale face, round eye, gwailo, and cracker.


these are my top 5

I love you all

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 6, 2008, 20:27:

Those racial epithets in the OP are a hell of a lot more offensive than gringo. Get over it.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 6, 2008, 20:27:

clyde, you're the only other person i know to use the term 'round eye'...that's what i use.

but, shit, gringo's just fine. in the army, the blacks used to call me 'fey'. no clue what that means. one blood used to joke with me about white guys using 'man tan'. i told him, at least when winter comes we don't need 'spade fade'.

dwmte

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dwmte7 says on Jul 6, 2008, 20:28:

i thought 'crackers' were hookers. hmmmm

dwmte

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sanandressi says on Jul 6, 2008, 20:47:

As a GRINGO, I find it most flattering that about half of LATIN AMERICA wants to come to my country and live next door! (They are coming too!) So, if they want to come to GRINGOLANDIA what do I care if they call me Gringo?

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lanegrapaisa says on Jul 6, 2008, 21:26:

Well, I never realized the term “gringo� might be considered as offensive, I guess it would depend on the context but I hardy consider it to be in the same group as “wetback� or “spic� since these two have always had a negative connotation. I mean, correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve heard many Colombian women gloat because they’re going out with a “gringo� but I surely never heard of an American bragging about going out with a “spic� or a “wetback�. In my opinion, unless it has an HP or F-ing in front of it, being called a “gringo� is like being called a “paisa�, something to be proud of …it’s a good thing, trust me.

Hasta el santo Papa tira peos!

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CatGirl says on Jul 6, 2008, 21:27:

You guys are a craker up! Listen, I have many Latino/a or Hispanic friends and they have never called me this (to my face, jajaja) not even as a jest. In California USA - it is a negatve word. But so is as**ole and guys use it as a term of endearment with each other all the time (Hey as**ole, watssup?). Only time I have ever been called this was when I was 14 in the girls bathroom surrounded by a gang of Cholas....we fought I kicked her as* and was never called that again. Infact, they asked me to join their gang and I declined, ja!
So - typically, it is not a word I respond to if someone called me that. It is very...hmmm - slang and really not even my closest gfnds referred me as that. Maybe "blondie" is about the closest. If it is used as a generalized word to a large # of people Totally different story...not offended and I might even reply. OK - done I think this is the fourth time I have seen a post like this

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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CatGirl says on Jul 6, 2008, 21:32:

Suerte G - "I have no allusions as I am very much aware that I was very lucky to be born a white man unlike so many other races out in the world who are discriminated against because of the color of their skin. When you understand the definition of gringo get back to us again and tell us how much it bothers you and why."

jaja! I just read this and I am cracking up. OK so when you fill out forms and they ask you to indicate your "race", try checking "other" and write in "gringo" I dare you! jaja
Hey! I tick them off all the time - I always check "other" and write "human" (cause that's the race I believe I belong to...the human race...jaja)

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 6, 2008, 22:24:

Outside of Mexico and specifically the northern Mexican and Chicano populations in south western States, "Gringo" is not considered offensive. Being called a "gringo" in Colombia is a term of endearment - like "hey buddy". If a Mexican is pissed off at you in El Paso, Texas, and calls you a gringo when angry - ya, that's offensive. Totally depends on the context. And if a Mexican calls you a gringo in anger in the US, it is pretty much the same to them as the N word or whatever.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 6, 2008, 23:01:

So then what is worse than gringo to an angry Mexican, when he is refering to a white guy? I stand by my take that to them (Mexicans in the US and northern Mexico) that gringo to them, is similar to the use of the N word. The only difference is the recipient (the gringo) doesn't get as offended by it as a black would, being called a N. But the context is the same. Go to Colombia, call an Americano a gringo, and it is synonomous with friend. Context is everything. Since most whites do not choose to be greatly offended by the word gringo, even when used in ugly context, the power of the word is moot / gone. But the speaker may indeed use it with the same personal feeling of a rascist hillbilly saying the N word in Andalusia, Alabama.

Peace tambien

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Lcacique says on Jul 6, 2008, 23:10:

tejas, you freaking made my day!!! Personally, I do actually love it when my friends throw around those terms...

honky lips is a classic. It always makes me giggle. Also love Honkaloid, porch honkey, uncle daddy, and flatback.

With gringo: As pointed out, context means everything. In most cases one should not take offense. Spic and wetback on the other hand have never been used affectionately.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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Lcacique says on Jul 6, 2008, 23:15:

Thanks for bringing it up Medo. I guess you are the only one that gets offended.

Of course a white person doesn't get as offended by the term gringo as an African American does by the "N" word. Not to many white people have been lynched.

p.s. I hope nobody takes offense by anything I said...

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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miamimike says on Jul 7, 2008, 01:27:

Some don't mind the Word, others take great offense at being called Gringo. If you don't know whether they do or not, why not just call them by their first or last name but never assume as it can land you in heap big trouble. ASS/U/ME(assume)

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Chriscan says on Jul 7, 2008, 04:01:

In Colombia, it is not offensive. In central America it is. In Colombia, all whities who don't live there are Gringos but in central america it is used to express hatered towards americans. My wife's parents would call anyone who isn't latino a gringo be they from China or Africa.

I call myself a gringo in Colombia but in Central america if I am called gringo, I make sure to clarify that I am not american. To Colombians, Americans, Canadians and Europeans are pretty much the same.

My buddy was called a gringo in Colombia and he said, "No, soy Canadianse" It was the joke of the night to the locals.

I have been called harvie more and more from that novela with the gringo. I think I like "Harvie" more. My wife siad she is going to make me a shirt that says,"No soy Harvie". She alread made a "No molestar" shirt for me when we were in Cartagena.

************* WARNING ************* my words often come from my ass

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 04:06:

GRINGO, GRINGO, GRINGO, GRINGO............................................
chit, do you have any idea what those simple 5 letters mean.
wealth, military might. rulers of the fokin world
Now if they call you a HONKY, thats offensive

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 04:40:

most hot latin girls in NYC call white guys simply HERB
I overheard my neice saying to my daughter "do you know that JUDY (a very close friend) was seeing with a HERB the other day? followed by a shocked expression from both
That is very rare in NYC.
"maybe she was just out with a co-worker having a drink or somthing? "
"nope! they were making out"
WHATTTTTTT????? EVEN A BIIGGER SHOCKED EXPRESSION AND BOTH HANDS OVER WIDE OPEN MOUTH

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 04:44:

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 04:46:

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 04:48:

hey doctor morph, really quick,
i wanna thank you, i'm getting floaters after eating fruits almost every day, thanks!!

man, in medellin i would love to be this guy (above) i bet he gets lots and lots of tail.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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jack_jason says on Jul 7, 2008, 04:59:

I would hate if some one call me GRINGO

This is just spanglish, please do not correct me

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 04:59:

In Medellin, any goofball gringo could get some tail. Thats why there are so many weirdos moving there.

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 05:03:

You could be a big fat, 400 pound gringo wobbling around Medellin and still get some tail.

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2008, 05:05:

If they pay for it.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 05:11:

Pay for it? You just need a gringo passport. I seen guys fly down there and stay at the girl's house for free and get all the tail they want.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 05:11:

goofball in medellin cali and bogota=brat pitt

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 05:15:

A lot of these guys think its real. They start to think they are good looking or something.

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jack_jason says on Jul 7, 2008, 05:19:

I just know that the statement..."goofball in medellin cali and bogota=brat pitt" just apply to middle to lowest class (or low estratos) Colombians. You forgot to include the statement...." goofball in Cartagena, Barranquilla and Santamanrta = GOD".

This is just spanglish, please do not correct me

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 05:26:

in lower class in medellin cali bogota, don't think so. i would say mostly upper class
cartagena and santa marta the above guy is sought after by pre pagos
in barranquilla, all i gotta say is JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 05:27:

does this guy have any idea where he ended up?? jijjij
he looks like my fokin cousin Vennie

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papiChulo says on Jul 7, 2008, 06:05:

they call me gato pimply white ass hpta... sometimes mono

you'll never go before your time

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huskie says on Jul 7, 2008, 06:05:

Cat says:

"Suerte G - "I have no allusions as I am very much aware that I was very lucky to be born a white man unlike so many other races out in the world who are discriminated against because of the color of their skin. When you understand the definition of gringo get back to us again and tell us how much it bothers you and why."

jaja! I just read this and I am cracking up. OK so when you fill out forms and they ask you to indicate your "race", try checking "other" and write in "gringo" I dare you! jaja
Hey! I tick them off all the time - I always check "other" and write "human" (cause that's the race I believe I belong to...the human race...jaja)"

That is a silly and very much an ignorant comment, this term "Gringo" is an endearment term, nothing to do with filling out forms, if that is was the case, then those same forms would have the ticker to say spic, n and so forth. No offense just my HO. I agree, it all comes to see how the term of the words is used whether offensibly or endearing!!
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 7, 2008, 07:11:

MaFe - "honkey lips" is what they painted on the family truckster when they rolled through a "rough" neighborhood in the movie "Vacation", a Chevy Chase classic.



here's a shot of the front. i love the double headlights!

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 07:20:

TEJAS, they made a wrong turn and ended up in a fokin ghetto in st luis

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 7, 2008, 08:52:

elmo - that's right! it was st. louis. it has been 10 years since i have seen the movie. definitely a classic...

GUNSHOTS RING OUT! then Chevy Chase says "Roll em up"!

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Mononoke28 says on Jul 7, 2008, 08:55:

I haven't read every post but when I read the title of this thread I thought "This sh at % again?"

Diana

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briarblue says on Jul 7, 2008, 08:59:

East St. Louis, IL---not one of your first choices for pulling off the interstate freeway and asking for directions at night.

As to the thread topic, can't see getting my blood boiling over someone calling me a gringo....unless they are all up in my face and have invaded my personal space, then it doesn't really matter what name they choose.

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Albatross says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:00:

"Spic and wetback on the other hand have never been used affectionately."

I use them affectionately... like when I see some of the cute little ones waiting for the school bus... that's a particularly good time to refer to them using those terms of endearment.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Mononoke28 says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:06:

The word gringo is not offensive unless your self esteem is so down the drain it's pathetic. We use gringo like we use paisa, rolo, costeño, samario, caleño even boricua. Those words are not used to discriminate against others based on where they're from.

Spic, wetback, riceburner and many others are. There's a huge difference.

Diana

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Albatross says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:10:

"riceburner" is not used for people, but for Japanese motorcycles... maybe you meant "gook".

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Mononoke28 says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:12:

Nope, at UNLV that word was used for any Asian person, Phillippino, Chinese, Japanese, etc. Then when I moved to L.A., they used it too and not in a very nice way.

Diana

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Albatross says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:17:

My favorite is "Cheese-eating Surrender Monkey"... I refer to all of my French friends that way... they all laugh and then we have a ole' good time drinking wine and reminiscing about the Maginot line and the fall of Paris.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:23:

Al,
oh dear, look at that cute little wetback eating his little taco jajajajajajajaja

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:28:

"We use gringo like we use paisa, rolo, costeño, samario, caleño even boricua"

I think rebel or yankee would fit in with those.


http://www.alphadictionary.com/articles/yankeetest.html

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:35:

Mountain_Top, when did you come out of the closet? Does your family still talk to you? Did it hurt the first time?

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:37:

i know i'm not a racist cus i can't stand some spics either
i used to take the number one train in manhattan just in time to run into the so called NYC students.mostly dominicans
all i kept reapeating inside my head was " those fokin spics, why don't they shut the fok up, nobody wants to hear no fokin spic language.
The same chit when i take the number 7 to queens.
"damn look at all these ugly third world modefques, how the fok did they get to USA, they look like they cant read or write one word in fokin english. they cant be talkin good english like me

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:46:

Just when I think everyone hates my white ass and i'm about to become racist, someone does something nice for me. Last week, I was running for the train and a hispanic guy swiped his Metrocard for me so I can catch the train.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:52:

is gotta be rough for white guys in NYC.
blacks don';t like you
hispanics don't like you
white girls don't like you
chinaman don't like you
colombianas that used to love you in colombia, now don't like you either
but the one to look out for is RUBITO . he HATES white people

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aztec says on Jul 7, 2008, 09:58:

Some of us whites have known that for a long time. Most of them hate the USA. They only want to go to the Great PX in the sky.

Quote from my son who was stationed for a year in Korea where many want to go to the States. Since so few of you have ever served in the military you will just have to ask a military man about the PX.

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:00:

I heard Rubito is down with the Zulu Nation organization...LOL

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aztec says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:04:

"morphus says on Jul 7 (today): flag

I heard Rubito is down with the Zulu Nation organization...LOL"

morphus, Desi knows what happened to Rubito!

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:07:

I think Desi is jealous of Rubito's musical talent.

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sloopskipper says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:10:

aztec says on Jul 7 (today): flag

. . . . . Since so few of you have ever served in the military you will just have to ask a military man about the PX.. . . .

AKA "Ship's Store".

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huskie says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:11:

I don't think Desi is jealous of anyone, except me (joking Desi)
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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huskie says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:12:

I am very jealous of Rubito's musical talent, specially his colorful lyrics
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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morphus says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:14:

I've seen Rubito live on stage. He can sing in both English and Spanish.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:19:

rubito is got canadian snow soul, he sounds just like a black dude, quite good!!!
and he could dance his ass off too

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elmodefoque says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:20:

we were dancing with a bunch of hookers in queens and i was quite impressed

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dwmte7 says on Jul 7, 2008, 10:44:

wtf....never heard such rubbish. i grew up in cholo heaven. all my friends were mexicans and most were farm working people/families. my family were farmers. to be called gringo meant nothijng more than friend. listo. now if i wanted to poke some noses, i called one of my homies, 'spik' or 'greaser'...that could raise hair. but 'gringo'? common, gimme a break. i ben all over northern mexico many times and it's as common as eatin tortillas.

dwmte

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Albatross says on Jul 7, 2008, 11:22:

PX = Post eXchange
BX = Base eXchange (Air Force)

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Lcacique says on Jul 7, 2008, 11:45:

Exactly douglas, all my Mexican friends use the term the same way as Colombians. And my friends from Central America are the same. In all cases it depends on the context. Clearly, some countries have had different experiences with gringos so there may be a greater proportion of people in one country that dislike gringos than another or vice versa. For the most part, however, it is the same everywhere. Anyway, the sentiment (negative/positive) is generally pretty obvious.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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dwmte7 says on Jul 7, 2008, 12:27:

speak for yourself, albatross.....i did my time. like the old grunt said, " i been shot at, shot up and shot down....." and i don't want no more. gimme the up country from medallo, my old lady, kids, some booze, maybe a party favor or two, the sounds of cows pissin, chickens cacklin and horses whinneying....that's enough for me. i had more than enough lucha in my life. now, i just want to spend a whole lotta time on my ass, write a lot, and just muse.

dwmte

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Philly says on Jul 8, 2008, 02:48:

I am not sure why my comments were deleted. Just another case of a black man not being able to express himself !!!!

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kalder says on Jul 8, 2008, 04:51:

Re: White guys in NYC- Latinas in London like tough, attractive white guys like Keifer Sutherland or Daniel Craig. As they do in Colombia.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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morphus says on Jul 8, 2008, 04:58:

Thats because Latinas in London are trying to fit in. They don't need to fit in in NYC since half the popuation is Latino. Not even Keifer Sutherland himself could score a hot Colombiana in NYC.

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kalder says on Jul 8, 2008, 05:00:

What are they after then?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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morphus says on Jul 8, 2008, 05:04:

Good looking Latino men with money.

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kalder says on Jul 8, 2008, 05:05:

Ha! You wouldn't find too many of them in London.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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elmodefoque says on Jul 8, 2008, 05:09:

not even bratt fokin pitt could score with a hot latina in NYC
let me find you a sample of the kind of guys NYC latina like
give me minute

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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elmodefoque says on Jul 8, 2008, 05:12:

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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Albatross says on Jul 8, 2008, 05:23:

Only fools chase after women that don't give a fuck.
Brad Pitt is not a fool and wouldn't waste his time with a cold chick, no matter how hot they thought they were... and face it, most hotties have absolutely nothing else going for them, and after a few years, lose even that and become worthless wrecks.

If a girl doesn't give me the time of day, I assume I'm better off without her.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Tolú says on Jul 8, 2008, 05:30:

My Colombiana cousins here in NY routinely drop their panties for Italian guys on steroids who drive little sports cars.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 8, 2008, 05:33:

young latinos and blacks have COMPLETE control of the hot female (all races) market in NYC. My kids get so much hot ass, it makes me envious

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elmodefoque says on Jul 8, 2008, 06:18:

another thing, you call any of these NYC born and raised kids GRINGO, they'll kick your fokin ass.

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aztec says on Jul 8, 2008, 06:29:

let me find you a sample of the kind of guys NYC latina like
give me minute" elmodefoque

More evidence we live in different worlds!

No woman or girl I know would have anything to do with the men you offer as examples. Keep in mind I am around 35,000 young people here in my university community. That means a little over 15,000 of them are young women/girls.

Every year there is a turnover of about one forth of them. So, there is a constant flow of young excited young people here giving this communicity a feeling of electricity. Many in the music industry claim this community along with Seattle is a mecca for music.

You may call it classiest or even racists but I suspect not one of them would date any of the examples of manhood offered! And yes we do have interracial dating here with absolutely no problems!

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aztec says on Jul 8, 2008, 06:36:

Bump

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elmodefoque says on Jul 8, 2008, 06:45:

now if you bump into any of these nyc kids in Irak wearing a USA marines uniform, then you could call them gringos.
They are as proud as any gringo anyweher in USA, even more so, cus they're from NEW YORK FOKIN CITY

THANK YOU!

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kalder says on Jul 8, 2008, 07:32:

Those couple of poofs??? Preferable to CTU's finest and Commander Bond? Maybe to Latinas under the age of 22.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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