Do we really need 10 threads on the same subject? Like Chavez vs Uribe? FARC Raul Reyes Dead?

Simon says on Mar 2, 2008, 11:03:

Damn, and I was gonna post another Raul Reyes/ Chavez thread!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Ctg Bound says on Mar 2, 2008, 11:04:

Damn as well, another Raul Reyes/ Chavez thread to post on.

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calikitty1 says on Mar 2, 2008, 11:06:

Senor:

Before you make that comment what don't you go back and read you own meaningless, tiresome posts?

Mil gracias

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 11:13:

calikitty1,
Which meaningless, tiresome post?

Love your great thread...

Donde esta mi amigo, brody?

calikitty1 says," ???????????????????" That's your great thread post contribution.

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poco says on Mar 2, 2008, 11:15:

Quote: Do we really need 10 threads on the same subject? Like Chavez vs Uribe? FARC Raul Reyes Dead?

Yes

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

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jake074701 says on Mar 2, 2008, 11:56:

Ditto yes, it is I think pretty important to the Colombian people or is that too much to let them keep abreast of the news, MT a mod?

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 11:59:

jake -

What Colombian people? This is a gringo site were Colombians are welcomed, but it's hardly the place Colombian come for news.

I love your tag line though! I busted out laughing after I read it :O)

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Simon says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:03:

Who the hell said this is a Gringo site? This is a site about Colombia where non-Colombians are welcomed (except if they come here to talk trash about Colombia)!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:07:

The majority of the members are gringos, with a sprinkle of Colombian membership, NO?

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robi666 says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:09:

The creator is a gringo... the mods are gringos (eh eh eh, or we can say colombianos chimbos)...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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Simon says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:09:

I never saw that census.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:09:

I happen think think multiple threads on the same topic dilute the quality of replies. But, maybe that's just me, since it seems y'all want mutliple threads.

It was just a suggestion to improve PBH. Nevermind, carry on as before.

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goin_south says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:10:

u gotta point there... maybe need a new category for posting.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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jake074701 says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:11:

MT, I see in my Colombian wife's eyes, the hurt if Colombia goes to war, with all the other problems compounded with this news. This is a site that tells pretty much all sides of the story from real Colombian people perspective and not just the media side. But I do recommend you as mod, as you are pretty much always fair and balanced in your comments, I hope no offense Don MT:)

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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robi666 says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:11:

You're right M_T, no need to explain it, even a child would understand it :)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:22:

MT, If you thought there were too many, then why did you start yet another?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:24:

"The creator is a gringo... the mods are gringos (eh eh eh, or we can say colombianos chimbos)..."
Depends on the definition you give to the word "gringo"
The creator is Belgian (European), the mods are Finnish-Swedish (European) and Colombian-Canadian.

Perhaps a half of our members would be either US Americans or Colombian_Americans, the rest from all over the world..

I don't see this as a "gringo" or "Colombian" site. It's Peter's site, it's for everybody who has a genuine interest in Colombia.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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robi666 says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:26:

Well said, Desi... :)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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goin_south says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:38:

exactamento!

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:40:

ColombianoGringo says, "MT, If you thought there were too many, then why did you start yet another?"

This the only "Do we really need 10 threads on the same subject? Like Chavez vs Uribe? FARC Raul Reyes Dead?" thread, or this I miss somthing, again :O)

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Ctg Bound says on Mar 2, 2008, 12:42:

Damn MT, this will soon be the biggest thread on the subject.

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 13:18:

I guess some people missed this thread :O)

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RAAAY says on Mar 2, 2008, 13:30:

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Yes.......well said Desi............but whatever about the various nationalities.............................would it be possible to get rid of Eye-Talians....??.............or maybe allow them to post in the Boliva section only........


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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tasco66 says on Mar 2, 2008, 13:55:

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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cali373 says on Mar 2, 2008, 14:17:

No we did not but did you really have to start another one.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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scotty says on Mar 2, 2008, 14:20:

two or three threads would be sufficient.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 14:25:

I say two.

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 2, 2008, 14:44:

Why? On many occasions, different threads about the same subject turn into distinct conversations with sometimes entirely different participants. What is the damage done if there are many threads? They only take up a tiny amount of storage on a database server somewhere. If you don't want to read a thread, simply ignore it.

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 14:50:

What if someone is looking for engaging conversation, or would like to hear others thoughts and comments. If a member replies to a thread, and a multiple thread show up above, he will almost always ignore the new thread because he has a vested interest in the another thread, which he has posted. Bandwith had nothing to do with my suggestion.

In keeping with the spirit of not starting a new thread on the same subject.....

Seguimiento de la Policía determinó la caída de Raúl Reyes

La operación que hoy celebran el Gobierno y las Fuerzas Armadas, fue conjunta. Sin embargo, es justo reconocer que inteligencia de la Policía puso la cuota inicial para este resultado. Un teléfono también llevó a Raúl Reyes a la muerte.

Desde finales de 2007 la Policía había priorizado la captura de uno de los integrantes del secretariado de las FARC, por lo que se activaron todas las fuentes de información para concentrarse en Raúl Reyes, Canciller, jefe máximo del bloque sur y segundo al mando de las FARC.

Fue así como dos analistas de inteligencia de la Policía comenzaron a monitorear absolutamente todas las radiocomunicaciones de Raúl Reyes desde finales de 2007. Dentro de esas comunicaciones también se estableció que el segundo hombre de las FARC utilizaba un teléfono satelital para coordinar sus movimientos.

Las comunicaciones se perdieron a principios de 2008 cuando Reyes dejó de utilizar este medio de comunicación, pero dentro de la operación de Inteligencia que se montó, se decidió que el Ministro de Defensa Juan Manuel Santos, anunciara públicamente que el Gobierno conocía la ubicación de los secuestrados que estaba por liberar las FARC esta semana. Esa declaración obligó a Reyes a utilizar nuevamente el teléfono satelital.

Una vez se ubicaron las coordenadas la Policía ordenó al oficial y a otro analista de inteligencia corroborar que el teléfono si estaba en manos de Reyes.

El general Óscar Naranjo montó una operación de seguimiento que le permitió a las demás fuerzas, coordinadas por el comandante de las Fuerzas Militares, general Freddy Padilla de León, ordenar un ataque conjunto en el que participaron comandos especializados del Ejército, el grupo Copes de la Policía, la Infantería de Marina y la Fuerza Aérea atacar 25 minutos después de la media noche una casa de la vereda la Rosita, en la Sombra, zona rural de Puerto Asís en Putumayo.

En el sitio estaba Raúl Reyes con otros 17 guerrilleros. Reyes fue herido en las piernas por efecto de las esquirlas de las bombas aéreas, y auxiliado por sus compañeros intentó huir de la destrozada vivienda. En ese momento los comandos antiguerrilla dispararon contra Reyes en dos ocasiones, una de los impactos dio en el pecho, pero la bala que lo dejó sin vida entró por su ojo izquierdo y le desfiguró parte de la cara.

Check out the video, great shots of all the action that special night when Raul Reyes said buenas noches for the last time...
http://www.noticiasuno.com/noticias/naranjo-estrella-de-la-operacin.ht...

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 2, 2008, 14:52:

Differences in opinion aside, that is great link. Thanks.

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 2, 2008, 14:53:

Man. That was great result to a very risky move. The fucker got scammed into giving himself away.

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 2, 2008, 15:01:

Yes. What a tricky bastard that Uribe, but what i don't understand is why they always have to tell the enemy how they tracked down their prey. It could have been used again, and again, and again, until there were no FARC leaders, not anymore.

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 2, 2008, 15:05:

I don't think this is the first time a farc scum has been tracked with satellite phone. They really have very few options. They have to communicate quickly one way or another. Regardless of how careful they may be, it only takes one slip up to find them.

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 2, 2008, 15:08:

I will say that the video comes across as very propaganda-like. They did not mention even mention that anything happened on the Ecuadorian side.

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juancegomez says on Mar 2, 2008, 16:19:

Too many threads, but I guess that was logical...

MT: This isn't the first time that the media, the government or the military have publicly mentioned and demonstrated that FARC communications can be tracked and bugged, whether passively or in order to show the contents or intercepted messages and execute attacks.

Still, I do think they'll be far more careful at this time...but probably not forever. Their communications take way too long when they don't use phones, to say the least.They are not dumb, they know those can be traced, but they've kept using them from time to time.

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SiV says on Mar 2, 2008, 17:41:

Is that not how they got Simon Trinidad (in Ecuador?), too? And also one/some of Saddam Hussein's sons?

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juancegomez says on Mar 2, 2008, 19:37:

Trinidad was captured in an apparent joint op with Ecuador under the previous president.

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SiV says on Mar 2, 2008, 21:26:

Yeah, I know, but did they not localise him via traced cell phone calls? Or was that Sonia, or Chupeta? Or am I just confused?

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