Do we all change when we move abroad?

Miguel says on Jun 10, 2006, 16:09:

I wouldn't worry, shirly Once a costeña, always a costeña.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 10, 2006, 16:58:

Miquel, como siempre, tiene razon. My wife is exactly the same woman now as she was three years ago. I wouldn't change a hair on her head.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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kernow62 says on Jun 10, 2006, 17:54:

I am with Utopia, except I've been with my Colombian wife for almost 13 years.

I believe; and forgive me if I am way off here, that guys who go for a much younger Colombian woman are asking for trouble.

My wife and Utopia's wife are both more mature and I believe this makes a big difference.

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vladimiro says on Jun 10, 2006, 18:04:

Montañeras There are foriegners in every country that learn the new language, and from the new culture things that are better than thier own. Then there are those that stay in thier own little comunity never learning the language or feel that they have nothing to learn from thier new country. Like many Americans in Colombia they even refuse to eat the food. These people are missing a great opportunity to become enriched by another country in my opinion. They are peasants or 'montañeras' as they say in Medellin.

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corazon en colombia says on Jun 10, 2006, 18:20:

Not eat the food?! Are they insane or what?! Why in the world would you want to do that? The food I ate in Colombia is the best food I ever ate!!!! They don't know what they are missing.


Colombia = paradiso

Colombia = paradiso

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larryrn says on Jun 10, 2006, 18:24:

Colombians, etc. Yes, to some degree I agree with you. My last wife was from Colombia but she was never able to show me her country. Only my current girlfriend and I am totally in love with Colombia. I can see myself living there full time -- actually, I have now a Condo and I love so many things about this culture. I take a taxi to my condo and I have all I need -- for so little money (based on USD).. I will be back there this week -- for 9 days this time (I go every month -- however, hurricane season is starting here so I will not be going back until the fall).. I feel more at home in Colombia than I do in Ft Lauderdale!!! If anyone wants to meet me for a beer or chat, let me know. I have a couple of business things going -- I work and make money via the internet -- and I can do that here in Coral Springs via bellsouth -- or in Medellin via epm!!

Larry
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Coral Springs, FL USA 954-816-5060
Medellin (Pablado), Colombia, SA (57) 316-2948618

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larryrn says on Jun 10, 2006, 18:31:

Younger women OK, I am so sick of these guys (Americans) going to Colombia just to have sex and meet these young girls a third of their age.. It really grosses me out. I mean, these are people and all -- and yea, I love sex, but I am not into these young girls. I am a dad and have two girls and I am not attracted to girls that are real young. I go to my kids cheerleading activities and think when I was in high school how much I loved a couple of the cheerleaders -- now they look to me like kids.. These American Men -- BRAG like when I was in college about the girls they were with in Medellin.. Would a real guy BRAG?? No. Someone insecure. I feel bad that Colombia and the women there are to some degree being taken advantage of.. But as someone mentioned, maybe these women are taking advange of the Americans?? Food for thought...
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Larry Snyder, RN Organization, Inc
Coral Springs, FL USA 954-816-5060
Medellin (Pablado), Colombia, SA (57) 316-2948618

--- Larry Snyder - http://www.rn.org - Your Source for Online Nursing Education!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 10, 2006, 21:24:

Larryrn, there's someone i want you to meet! Morphus, where R U? you will absolutely love this guy from Yonkers......=)


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 21 días...Colombia es pasión!

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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shirly1981 says on Jun 11, 2006, 07:35:

I dont worry Migue... it is just what i think about it. Im sure im not gonna change, i like my culture better than american, british or any other...food, people, accent all about it and even more now that im abroad. I think there are too many divorces 'cause these guys go there and after holidays (one week) they come back saying "Ohhh im in love with a colombiana, this is my soul mate i had never felt something like that before" and in 6 months they are married with a 21 years old....what should they expect??

Sophia

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Sonny says on Jun 11, 2006, 07:48:

I wonder if men marry for love or lust. We all have the desire to be happy. Marry a Colombian and you are married to a Colombian, culture, temper, food, good and bad just like any other woman or man accepts if their are adults and are looking for a mate and not a maid. If you are trying to change your mate then you messed up. I thank my lucky stars that I found my Colombian. I love her, her culture, temper, ability to cook, clean, love and is my best friend. We have gone through good times in our first year, hard times our first year, but I cannot see my life without her. We have a baby due in July, and I sent her back to her Country to be with her family so they can enjoy the moment. We have a life time to be togather but they may not.
This site has opinions about almost everything you can think of from men and women that want to be adults but are still children that think they know it all to people that truly care and will help any way they can. If you don't see the bright side of your relationship maybe you should polish the one your in.
Listen to your heart, work on your family, keep your culture(s) alive and thriving, work through your issues and above all make every day the first day of your life. To those of you that can't see beyond your zippers or skirts, keep up the good work. Adulthood is just around the corner. Just my opinion is all and not intended to insult anyone

Friends???? How do you place a value on that?? They are like memories, without them you have nothing

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Wastelandlive says on Jun 11, 2006, 10:48:

Larryrn I'd like to meet you for a beer or chat.

I live in the Grove. We could hook up there, the Gables, or South Beach if you like. I'd just like to meet somebody who shares my passion for Colombia, and I'm interested in the fact that you've managed to construct a life between there and South Florida: that's a dream I haven't been able to realize yet. Maybe I could learn something from you!

chokingonthesplinters at yahoo.com

R/

WLL

Wasteland

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 11, 2006, 11:06:

I have changed but not becau I've changed but not because I've moved abroad, I've changed because I have got older sorry mature, I now cook, clean the house, work, before marrying and move abroad I didn't used to do nothing of this, I learned to cook after marrying became more responsible, I have embrace the British Culture, this is a very important process if you want to settle in a new place, to get to know its culture and customs and accept them, my kids are British as much as Colombian I've learned to assimilate part of my kids Culture. I like both countries and I have taken the best of both.;)

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Rubiazo says on Jun 11, 2006, 19:26:

I agree with Gringo BUT I also think that of COURSE you yourself change a lot if you move. I myself am an immigrant, and even though I only moved one country over, it has been a massive adjustment and has changed me profoundly.

You can really see the difference here in NYC between someone fresh off the boat and someone who has racked up the years here. Eventually people beceome New Yorkers and relate more to here than to where they were from. You can even see it in people that come from the rest of the country to here! Sometimes it's a good thing, sometimes not.

When I was in Toronto, it was an even bigger difference, you could actually see recent arrivals come in with the mentality of their home country, and gradually get more and more antisocial as the years went on! It was actually kind of frightening!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 11, 2006, 19:44:

Every time i have moved a broad, i have never changed.... but, she has been moved by the lack of change...

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 20 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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rikharley says on Jun 11, 2006, 20:03:

my last wife was frim medellin and it depends on the person wether they change or not. from what i was told she would never go back to colombia to live. I on the other hand an an american by birth bit of colombian parents. and i do want o live in medellin hopefully in 1 yr it will come true larry email me for some info on you internet businesses

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Albatross says on Jun 12, 2006, 04:03:

Larryrn Who cares what you think... being a Dad is your problem.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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elmodefoque says on Jun 12, 2006, 06:55:

I think I’ve change the mos I think I’ve changed the most. My first sight of a blonde, blue eyed gringa was back in the 1964 Worlds Fair, Queens NY. I was floored, I could not believe anyone could be so damn beautiful, I thought that b-tch fell from the heavens above, she was so perfect. Before that all I used to see was colombianas and wayuu girls. I later learned how fantastic they were in the sack, these blondes are built for sex, dirty, sweaty, mind blowing, toe curling sex. I was not too crazy about the food, I puke my first slice of pizza, WTF is this slimy bloody mess, I ask myself, but I love Mexican food.
I was lucky to hit my teen years in NYC during the age of sex, drugs and rock and roll, when a modefoque looking like me was every gringitas sexual fantasy and I was there to fulfill all their deviant dirty desire, even if they wanted to stick a finger up my a—s, I was game.
Now, how have I changed the most? For one thing, I have no Colombian friends and don’t care to have any, except for the women of course. Until recently I did not know didlly squat about Colombia, just learned where Bogotá, Medellin and Cali are in a Colombian map, but I still have a hard time finding Cali. I don’t know who the hell the vice president is, but I could name every American president and vice-president going back to Kennedy and Johnson.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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lockheed says on Jun 12, 2006, 10:08:

LIFE stories People are diffrent everywhere, when I was younger I had some bad experiences with Colombianas but to my luck, not, "knowledge", I did not end up with these people as my life companions, probably they realized I was not usefull for their purposes. 5 years ago I met a very special Colombiana I had to chase her for 2 years before I got a date, now she is my wife and we have a 10 month baby girl.
She is totaly diffrent from my other Colombian experiences, when I met her she was legal in my country, had her own permit, had her own steady job and income, her own apartment, paid by her, we had a "normal" courtship and slowly we escalated to what we are today, ther was no hurry or preasure to marry or for me to become her permit provider. Her family is o.k. in Colombia, they don't rip her of for money, all her brothers have their careers, her mom and her dad are in their 70's and have been together forever, and can't live without each other. She has a daughter 17 years old wich is one of the most well brought up teenagers I have seen.
So what am I saying is that sometimes the indications are in our face and we can't see them.
EXAMPLE
"Gloria" she is 22 years old, you met her working at the frontdesk hotel. She goes to movie with you one night, then next day you have sex, and she does things nobody ever did to you, you go back home in love, she calls and says they killed her father needs $200, whenever you call her she is not home even late hours, her mom got her when she was 15, haven't been with her father since, she has 4 other brothers by diffrent fathers, 2 of them are in jail 1 don't work, and the other is in Spain doing something. Gloria has a cell phone that not even you can aford to buy, Gloria is constanly traveling with a "cousin" that ocasionaly fondles her or looks at you mad.

This has nothing to do with nationality this has to do with kind of people you involve yourself with, there are woman just like Gloria where I live, but for some reason you distinguish them and stay away from them.

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Colombiche says on Jun 12, 2006, 19:35:

....... Change is the only thing constant in one's life.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Jun 12, 2006, 19:37:

No matter how much I've changed Colombia still follows me around. Sometimes I lose sight of her in the distance, sometimes she steps on my heels.

I thought she looked unrecognizable, but then again so did I.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Rubiazo says on Jun 12, 2006, 20:11:

You've changed And you're one of the people intelligent enough to have noticed the true nature of those changes. Now you realize exactly what you're missing :P

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Colombiche says on Jun 13, 2006, 06:50:

Rubiazo Being forced to leave you cocoon always entails change.

When you wake up one day in a strange place where you step outside on the street and don't understand a word people are saying, it forces you to look deeper inside yourself - especially when you don't have much of a choice but to make this strange new place your home.


You have to develop new traits to help you fly without a safety net beneath you.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Albatross says on Jun 13, 2006, 08:01:

Lockheed Do you by any chance, have Gloria's phone number ?

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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