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Do Gringas Prefer Colombianos? Some biology thoughts..

This post is in answer to " A question for the ladies" from an American in Colombia. I can't find his post now to reply to it (something weird is happening to my comPUTAdor). He said he found Colombian women beautiful and thought colombian men not and wanted to know if gringas found colombanios as attractive (in a purely physical sense) as gringos found latinas. The science of human attraction has always intrerigued me, and though a process of careful research ;-) and reading around the topic, most psychologists agree that:

Statistically speaking, if you tot up all the numerous sexology studies that have been done on the science of human attraction, what you will find are the following indicators of what most women consider attractive.

1) Height. Height is a good indicator of reproductive fitness and good health. This is the female equivalent of the waist-to-hip ratio that is a strong indicator in women (that is, the smaller your waist is in relation to your hips, the more reproductively fit you are, and hense men will find you more attractive). For optimum attractiveness, the man should be about 5 inches taller than the woman. According to this, a short guy is at a distinct disadvantage, breeding wise, if he’s in the same pool as a tall guy.

2) Grooming (let’s say that this is the human equivalent of plumage). Some women say that money is not important (honest ones will say it’s not AS important as other things, but affluent men: decent clothes and trappings such as nest….er, sorry, house, and car, or at least those with the appearance of affluence are more successful with women. I would be very surprised if this was not the case, especially in a third world country. So again, your colombiano cannot project this image – given the cultural perceptions of the Stupendously Wealthy North – when competing with a gringo. I’ve noticed that Colombian men are exact and meticulous about their appearance and personal hygiene, though, and this definitely helps. Especially when they find themselves in my country of origin.

3) Age: optimum age is about 5 years older than the female. No-one knows why this is, but I would guess it’s got something to do with showing you are steady enough to get down to that next building.

Let’s say she’s not interested in nest-building. Well, cognitively, maybe not. But this is biology we’re talking about: what a woman considers attractive boils right down to the fact, like all female mammals, her body chemistry is trying to get her pregnant.

So, all these considered, gringas SHOULD be more attracted to gringos, right?

But then there are OTHER things to – like the ability to nurture, for which women look for socio-linguistic indicators. A woman cares a lot more about what she hears, than what she sees, in which case that whole sodding-drunk-under-the-window tradition of serenading the woman, the piropos ( the nice ones, anyway), and, in a relationship, the affection and passion, is the equivalent of the peacocks tail.

Also, the issue of immunity and reproductive vigour. Nature just loves variety, mating between genetically dissimilar individuals increases immunity to disease. So there is some truth in the adage that opposites attract. Again, when it comes to colombianos and gringos, the colombiano is a distinct disadvantage if he is genetically similar to the available females, but in an excellent position if he is in the minority. Thus, biologically speaking, gringas are going to be more attracted to Colombians than to gringos, and vice versa.

The answer to your question: do gringas find Colombian men attractive?

Mostly, yes.

Because most (educated) Colombian guys can do the whole sociolinguistic, nurturing thing a lot better than Americans, and have the genetic dissimilarity advantage.

And are considerably better dancers.

While studies are yet to prove this, you can tell EXACTLY how a guy will be…er..in other areas, from the way he dances ;-)

By doñaquixote on Jul 26, 2005, 07:09 in Friendly Talkzone.

DCShoeCo says on Jul 26, 2005, 08:04:

unfortunately.... These scientific ¨facts¨ are brought to you by white coat wearing dorks in labs who couldn´t get laid to save their lives. In reality, height, age etc will get you more opportunities, but the only thing that really matters is how you make women feel. Just like in sales, ¨you gotta close¨. We´re interested in actual mating here, not woulda shoulda bullshit, or how many girls make eye-contact with you.

And having brought it up in conversation quite a few times, I have yet to meet a white girl here in Colombia that was into Colombian men. Most of them are lonely and desperate to meet other foreign men. One turned into a lesbian.

A Colombian girl I´m friends with made an interesting comment about why she prefers foreigners: ¨Colombian men are like children, hiding behind their moms when any adversity presents itself¨.

Just curious for Colombian men; how many white chicks have you actually hooked up with yourself? That should answer this question a lot faster than scientific guidelines.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 26, 2005, 08:31:

jeje this is funny.

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Diomedes Nochez says on Jul 26, 2005, 08:31:

But Colombianas prefer gringos in the hope for money and perhaps to get a ticket aboroad.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 08:36:

"Just curious for Colombian men; how many white chicks have you actually hooked up with yourself? That should answer this question a lot faster than scientific guidelines."

i banged over 100 white chicks, paid none.
i banged close to 20 colombianas, all hookers except for the one i married.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 08:46:

almost forgot.
i also banged 7 colombian burras, paid none

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Diomedes Nochez says on Jul 26, 2005, 08:51:

elmo, so, you married a hooker????

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 08:58:

she aint no hooker but turned out to be the most expensive polvo ever.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 09:00:

gib, girngas beat them all, hands down, followed closely by puerto ricans. burras are not that bad but you gotta be real desperate and very drunk to appreciate.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 09:50:

Here’s another thing that I could do with gringas that I can’t do with a burra. I was asked by this stunning gringa to piss on her, or the golden shower, I said, sure, why not? and if you like, you could piss all over me too, hell, If you saw this broad you would not even mind her doing a number 2 on you head. Anyway, if you try to piss on a burra, be ready to have you nuts ripped off with a swift kick. For some odd reason I think that would be the most painful experience a guy could feel, even more painful than kidney stones.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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caslug says on Jul 26, 2005, 09:51:

DAMM! Didn't know about the gringa situation.. so you guys r saying there's bunch of lonely, horny gringas desperate for loving in COL?.. Why don't they do what the gringos do just date bunch of COLs.

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 11:12:

I'm an exception to the statistics I suppose. I find most Colombian men very attractive...then again I find most south american men to be attractive.

This could be due to the fact that I kind of like short guys with dark hair.

Sure Colombia has some uglies but doesn't every country? I also know quite a few gringas who find south american men very attractive.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 11:19:

sylvie, then you gotta visit my village, we got real short dark hair modefoques walking around. you ever watch "laura in america" just like them.

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 11:23:

elmodefoque Remember that they have to have nice big teeth for me to like them! :-)

Another thing that most, not all Colombian guys have is nice even skin with no marks.

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 11:31:

************* wrong thread

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 11:43:

I got great skin, deep tan and not a single spot, ok, I do have a number of deep scars from a baby bottle my ex busted above my knee after I got home a few hours late, 2 days to be exact. I also got a nice deep gash over my left eye; this cop hit me with a Billy club. The bastard caught me as I was running outta Tom Mcan with 4 pairs of those cheap shoes during the 1977 New York City blackout.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 11:49:

elmodefoque you sound like trouble! I bet the girlies were all over you. Those bad boy types always get the chicks. hehehehe :-P

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:08:

It's all about short guys for me!

They can dance and do other things very well ;-)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:16:

On this subject I've asked a number of Colombianas who were looking for non-Colombian boyfriends why they didn't want to go out with Colombian men. The answers all tended toward, "they're mama's boys, can't cook, can't clean, rarely go down on a girl, are more emotionally demonstrative but less nurturing, not deeply involved raising kids, cheat incessantly and have a sense of entitlement a kilometer wide."

Apparently a lot of women, both gringa and colombiana, are willing to forgo the superior dancing and grooming for these other traits.

And before anyone jumps to kill the messenger, just remember, these aren't my comments. And they're crude generalization by pissed off women.

I'm sure there are plenty of happy Colombiano-gringa couples.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:21:

i don't have to be short to be able to stick my lengua in places you did not even know you had.

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:27:

I can only think of three places were you could stick your lengua. Are tehre more? If so, let me know! :-)

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kernow62 says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:29:

God yes, I can think of a few more. You need more practice Sylvie. ;-)

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:32:

I'm not into the lengua in the ear. That is gross.

I guess the belly button would be an option.... I suppose that I do need more practice. But don't hold it against me, I'm still young and inexperienced. :-P

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elmodefoque says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:33:

i'll have to show you

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platano says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:37:

I can think of nine... Not that all nine of them would be of interest...

Plátano, el banano verde
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:37:

If your lengua is long enough to reach Montreal then why the hell not?

But back on topic. One thing I do like about latinos is that they can handle the bitchings that short tempered girls (like my self) give.

Scream at an Italian or Greek guy and they either piss in their pants or try to walk away from it. Latinos actually yell back which is fun. Makes the fight a lot more entertaining and gives a sort of satisfaction.

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:39:

platano NINE?!

you've peaked my curiousity now! I suppose you're counting, two nostrils, two ears, coochie, bum, mouth.....thats all I got.

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caslug says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:39:

huh Mr. H..?? COL men "...rarely go down on a girl..." I thought COL men really like to eat out at the Y? The way ELMO is talking you would think all guys are enthusiastic like him...So only foreigners like to eat out?

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caslug says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:41:

Slyvie.. "Latinos actually yell back which is fun. Makes the fight a lot more entertaining and gives a sort of satisfaction."

Unfortunately they are known to occasionally do more than just "talk back"..

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 12:44:

"Unfortunately they are known to occasionally do more than just "talk back".. "

Thats not right. I feel sorry for any moron who decides to hit an italian girl because they usually end up dead or paralyzed.

My cousin once got smacked by her boyfriend and this guy ended up with two broken knees and a broken hand....gee I wonder what happened to him.

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:00:

From what I've heard, no, the Colombianos don't like to eat at the Y. Damm, I love it. It's like eating a nice fresh juicy ripe peach.

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:02:

I thoguht all guys liked eating at the Y. They all seem pretty enthusiastic about it.

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:12:

You must just be a lucky girl, Sylvie. A lot of guys hate it even among the gringo population. Hell if I was a quadrapalegic (paisa29 - want to help me with my spelling here?), it would be all that would keep me going. I'd be like a koala bear just eating bush all day.

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caslug says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:15:

hmm... Looks like i'll have to do some field research during my visit to COL between hitting the tourist stuff, i'll have to check out the Y.

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:16:

I got comfortable for about 30 seconds and wrote something. But then realized that it was a bit too personal.

But I think guys like it more when the girl eats a lot of fruit. I eat 3 apples a day :-)

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caslug says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:24:

Thanks for the advic, slyvie.. i'll make sure to offer my amigas lots of fresh fruits! especially apples! LOL!

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brunito says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:44:

Sylvie I'm all for meeting you up here in... Montreal....

:-)

And put practice to all those discussions that have been going on...

;)

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:51:

we are all just joking around. Everyone knows there is only three spots. And since latino's don't like the Y spot I'm pretty sure they wont like the O spot.

I believe that just leaves the mouth. :-P

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YANI-34 says on Jul 26, 2005, 13:53:

I was the one with the original post, but................ It disappeared. The only point I was trying to make is that I find most Colomianas physically very attractive and I don't see as many colombianos physically as appealing. This was only my observation and I was curious if it's true or not. It's hard for a straight male to judge other males.

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 15:34:

The O spot? You mean the legendary "El Chiquito"? Elmo loves it but I am not sure that he is representative.

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kernow62 says on Jul 26, 2005, 15:46:

Damn, Elmo loves his Reeses Chunky Peanut Butter cups.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:03:

Yeah... I think Colombian men are hot. Some Mexican men, too. Also some Chinese men and big Japanese men. I'm just hopeless.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:04:

Save the wild cats and argentineans ;-)

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Save the Wildcats says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:05:

Yes! How could I forget the argentines?

How've you been, Kat? Good to see you.

KIm

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:06:

nice to see you or shall i say write to you too. where have you been. how is your spanish going..

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:09:

It's a good thing my wife's not reading this. She hates the Argentines. She was rooting for the British in the Falklands War - wanted to see them get their psuedo-Italian traseros kicked.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:10:

My Spanish stinks... no one to practice with except at Mexican restaurants, where I am almost certain they throw the frijoles in the air in horror when they see me coming. I live in Ohio and there are almost no Latinos here. We are adopting a child from Colombia or Guatemala and have been doing lots of paperwork. Not much else new here! How are things with you?

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:13:

The best way to learn Spanish is en la cama, Kim.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:15:

Yes, but "squeal like a pig" isn't going to help me with Spanish you'd speak to a kid.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:19:

I am a fine Kim thanks, looking forward to go to Colombia again on Christmas I can’t wait!!!. I am off to Spain in a week and half, “summer�? holidays here in the UK is not very good, we have to escape from this British weather.

UC, that is why you just know thw word, yes yes yes

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:19:

Come on, if you could say all the things Elmo says, a kid would love it. You could tell him a bedtime story about a boy and his special burra.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:24:

Kat - have fun in Spain! How nice. I bet the weather will be a lot better than what's going on in the UK. Have a great time and let us know how it goes!

Kim

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kernow62 says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:25:

UTC believe it or not most Argentinians feel as though the Falklands war was a waste of lives on both sides. Governments often don't do what the people want.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:26:

UC True, but the kid would run all the way back to Colombia when we got to the "Put four on the floor and do the dog" part of that story.

Not making fun of Elmo - I'm one of his loyal fans. But I can't trust any type of Spanish I learn here for a bedtime story, though.

Ha! I will practice my flashcards. They seem to be helping a bit. At least I knew what a cama was so that's improvement.

Que tenga una buena noche, UC!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:28:

Thank kim, the weather there is always nice. I like spain specially their paellas and riojas. ;-) ok and some of the guys are gorgeous

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:32:

Geez, Kat, you're always checking out the guys. Reminds me of when I'm with my wife and I spot a good-looking woman. She'll turn to me and say "Te gusta?". I'll say, "No, mi amor, me gustas!"

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:39:

Well I like to see the local amenities.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:39:

What are riojas? I tried to look it up and couldn't find out. Is it a food?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:42:

Rioja is Wine region of northern Spain that produces some of the country's best red wines, as well as some whites and rosés.

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:43:

Poor Larry must be laboring night and day to keep you satisfied. He doesn't need help with that, does he?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 26, 2005, 16:45:

not, he is top ten ;-p not he doesn't, he is top ten ;-p. he is a pro

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 26, 2005, 19:39:

Well, I wouldn't have expected anything less, Kat. He's a pro, eh? Now that's a business I wouldn't mind getting into....

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Sylvie says on Jul 26, 2005, 22:52:

Yes there are some very attractive Colombian girls but I've also seen quite a few ugly ones (like really ugly). Thats the way it is in almost every country. There are also some very good looking Colombianos. Are there more good looking women in colombia than there are good looking men?...quite possibly. Is it possible that you guys are just paying attention to the hotties and ignoring the hairy, stylishly challenged, and sometimes heavy girls of Colombia? I think so.

And I'll have to agree with the ladies. Argentinian men are hot. Maybe even a tiny bit hotter than the Colombian men. :-P

I find the light skinned men of Venezuela HOT. They have such delicate faces and I always want to touch them....I don't know why.

Guys in Mexico City are hot too. Yum!

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bondjames says on Jul 27, 2005, 03:27:

Colombianas preffer gringos back home in Colombia. But seems once they step foot in the U.S. the novelty of the gringo dissapears as quickly as the novelty of gringas wanting Colombianos back in Colombia. face it. If Colombianas preferred gringos then there would be no need for marriage agencies in Colombia. You would simply ony need to join some U.S. or U.K dating sites such as match.com and you would have tons of prospects already here in the U.S. But most of the hot Colombianas I know already in the U.S. marry latin or Italian men.

As for women not caring about a man's looks and falling in love with what she hears that is plain BS. First women really are so confused they don't know what they want. They tell you looks don't matter. Yet many will say they do not like to date a good-looking guy because he gets too much attention and is much more prone to cheating to cheating because it is so easy for the good looking guy to get women.(Hey! I thought looks did'nt matter)

. Well if women do not care about looks and it is all about what the man is about why is it the good looking men find it so easy to cheat with an abundance of women? Should'nt all men have equal oppurtunity if it were not about looks? Most women are just as shallow as men. they want the good looks but also want faithfulness so they can have a husband to raise a family with.
When a woman has a man that is above average in looks she can barely trust him to walk down the block without other women hitting on him. She won't trust him with her own sister.
Women are shalow just like men. They just won't admit it. They upgrade and trade up if they can also if they can just like men. The only difference is a woman will put up with a man she is not physically attracted to much more often than men would for financial gain and security for future or present children.. We can't fake it sexually but they can.

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DCShoeCo says on Jul 27, 2005, 09:35:

Looks do matter. If you are good-looking, you will have more women hit on you, and more women will be open to being approached.

BUT. Looks are not what will get you laid, they will just get you more opportunities. If you do not have social skills, if you don´t know how to talk to women and be cool, if you don´t know how to use humor properly, if you don´t know how to get women isolated, if you don´t know how to escalate physically, you can look like Brad Pitt but you still won´t get laid. I know plenty of tall, good-looking introverts that just don´t have very good social skills, and they NEVER get laid.

On the other hand, I know plenty of short, ugly dudes who get laid like rockstars. I mean like 30-50 hotties a year. Why? Because they can approach women, make them laugh, get them comfortable, get them alone, and get them naked. They have awesome social skills, they are storytellers, they have friends everywhere, they are cool, they can have an awesome conversation with anyone.

Looks are important in that they will get you more opportunities, but if you don´t know what to do with those opportunities, you still won´t get laid.

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Colombiche says on Jul 27, 2005, 09:42:

Agree with Bond James People just go for novelties, for the exotic. Most North American - raised Colombianas look for Latino men, they grew up surrounded by Gringos so they don't see a novelty there. They try to settle down with somebody who will keep them in touch with their long lost culture.

On a different note, for those who think colombian men are D.O.G.S, check out my doggies on Transmilenio post, they look really well behaved, so loveable :)

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 27, 2005, 09:52:

Agree with you Colombiche, and remember the grass is greener on the other side, being in the UK for a long time, I actually start finding latino men very atractive, I am bored of looking too many blondes, blue eyes. bring me a hunky dark latino. jeje. by the way the dogs are cute.and well behave lol

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Albatross says on Jul 27, 2005, 10:16:

Call Me Casanova Damn, all this time I've relied on my stunning good looks... you mean I actually have to TALK to them ?

Actually, I've found a big honkin' wad of cash does the trick pretty well too.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Lucia Rojas says on Jul 27, 2005, 10:18:

they are really awful with all the machismo and the cheating. A colombian man feels he's not a real man if he doesnt cheat. of course they are exceptions to the rule...but if we geneeralize... they like their aguardiente and their women(a lot of them)

Costennos are the worst. They can't be faithful no matter how hard they try...They have to prove they're really macho by hooking up with a lot of them, even having multiple families at the same time: some woman with 3 kids on one side of town, another one with 4 at the other... and some young lover ( who will probably end up with a kid in a couple of years)

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Lucia Rojas says on Jul 27, 2005, 10:22:

yes just like the transmiperro dogs apparently innocent and well behaved

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elmodefoque says on Jul 27, 2005, 11:08:

those costeño bastards. not only do they cheat with other women but some still screw burras even after they get married and have baby burros all over the place.
guys today new york feels just like barranquilla, HOT. i just got back to work from Macys', a 10 minute walk, and my balls are dripping in sweat.
man, i love this weather!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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Colombiche says on Jul 27, 2005, 12:43:

kat Yeah, gotta love those transmiperro doggies. Todos tiernos, con una cara de yo no fui. Igual que los colombianos.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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bondjames says on Jul 27, 2005, 13:16:

Well, personality is a must for both sexes. Looks can only get you through the door a lot quicker with a lot less work. I know and dated beautiful women with no personality. Ones that are really gorgeous but can't keep a decent man interested. I also know plain women that date decent looking or rich guys. I guess those guys were sick of dating the "supermodel" airheads .

All I know is women tend to fear men who are too good looking because they understand(but will never admit it) women are just as shallow as men and the good looking man will have much more oppurtunity to get in trouble than an average one cause women will be more sexually attracted to them.

I know a few "average guys" that get laid often too. But it really is a skill and takes much more work on their part to get the initial attention and keep it. Looks matter to both sexes and both sexes will let that slide(women more so than men cause we really cannot fake lust like women can) in order to find a spouse they feel will be faithful.Also a big wad of cash will eliminate any lack of looks men have.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jul 27, 2005, 15:33:

I love...... self-confidence in a man, regardless of his looks. Good hygiene, someone that smells good, is self-assured and compassionate (but not a pushover) and someone who can make you *laugh* with a wickedly dry sense of humor is a treat. That's why I fell so hard for my husband. Cash doesn't matter, I have enough for both of us. A pretty boy doesn't mean much if he's a dolt.

Just MHO!

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platano says on Jul 27, 2005, 16:21:

Since this is an important topic on PBH... There are several books about eating at the Y. One I would recommend is She Comes First: The Thinking Man's Guide to Pleasuring a Woman by Ian Kerner (2004.)

It explains why the tongue is mightier than the sword, the "Jackson Pollock" lick (as compared to the Elvis Presley snarl), also explains all eighteen parts of the clitoris and how each plays a role in the production of pleasure.

You have to be ready to think outside her box. This book puts the big penis = big orgasm theory to rest once and for all.

Plátano, el banano verde
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