would it be possible to bring a direct TV receiver from Florida to Colombia and hook it up to an existing Colombia Direct TV system -- just swap receivers, would this enable the programming found in the US? I brought my receiver from Florida and am here for a week - if anyone is in Medellin and has direct TV maybe I could swing by and see if this works??

larry@rn.org

Posted on May 15, 2008


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would be a God sent for all of us stuck with DirectvLa..

Posted on May 15, 2008


Larry, i have friends in bogota from ga., after figuring out the dish angle (manually( they had direct from the states.. good luck..

Posted on May 15, 2008


You have a 99% chance of success, all you have to do is point the antenna to the right satellite with the right the angle, I guess thats the hard part but I am pretty sure you will find someone there that knows how to do it, here in the States my sister live in Sanford, FL and I live in Miami, FL She had 4 receivers at home and was not using one of them so She send me the card and I put it in my receiver and it works the only thing is that the local channels were from Orlando, FL her area another thing is that you might need a bigger dish.

Posted on May 15, 2008


Simply point it at a right angle? And referenced to what direction? I suspect that it's a little more complicated than that. You could just Sling Box it, that's what I do to receive cable from the states.

Posted on May 15, 2008


What's a sling box? How does it work? You recieve cable from the states with high-def channels?

Posted on May 15, 2008


It will work properly, just look for the rigth angle and try to get some body from a cable company, give him $20.000 pesos and they will do it for you.

Posted on May 15, 2008


So If I buy a sling box and give it to my sister in the states I could access it through my laptop. Then run a cable from the laptop to the tv? And I would be getting hd channels too? How fast of an internet connection do I need? How much does the slingbox cost?

Posted on May 15, 2008


Slingbox solo about USD 140
Run an utp cable from the router to the slingbox, wherever you got the tv provider box, and internet. This wil be setup at your sisters house.

You would be getting all the channels as where the sling box is installed, just one person at a time, if you change chanels while on remote mode you will be changing channels at your sister tv as well, unless using a different setup

Posted on May 15, 2008


Ok, that I didn't know. I would need to be able to change channels and not affect anything my sister is watching.

Posted on May 15, 2008


I can just talk for the sling box, somehow with direct tv if one end change the channel the other end will change as well, where with telmex and a VHS this can be worked out.

Posted on May 15, 2008


the quality on the sling isn't nearly as good as with a local receiver. The sling depends on the internet connection and even a connection of 600 kb from Colombia to the US will result in a picture quality that would look terrible on a 25" TV. On your laptop, its acceptable.

Posted on May 15, 2008


From what I read in an earlier post, taking your DirecTV setup to Colombia can only pick up the U.S. signal if you live in North Colombia.

Posted on May 15, 2008


So, how does it work? You still need the dish right? So what if you already have DIRECTV service here, do you still hook up the Colombian box to it? I'm confused.

A friend of mine who lives in Florida told me that here sister got some kind of box that has all kinds of Colombian channels. I said "oh yeah is it DIRECTV or DishNetwork?" she said it was neither, that it was a new service where they hook you up with a whole bunch of Colombian channels including Teleantioquia, Telepacífico, Telecaribe.

Does anybody know about this service? I'd like to know more about it.

Thanks!

Posted on May 15, 2008


Well as soon as someone on the board gets it " Done " drop me a line please !!!!!

Thanks

Posted on May 15, 2008


Mononoke, it might be Jumptv.

http://www.jumptv.com/en/channel/colombiancaracol/

Posted on May 15, 2008


Uhmm... I thought it was JumpTV too but that's internet based. She said it was a box, the tech came to her house, installed it and voilá. But my friend is so dumb when it comes to even basic technology, she didn't know how to explain it and hasn't asked her sister about it.

I'm starting to think she was pulling my leg. =\

Posted on May 15, 2008


You will not be able to get Direct TV from he USA in Colombia no matter which reciever you use. The satelite is to low in the sky.
Your options are to sign up for Direct TV latin America. It is pretty good and alot of the stations are in English just by pushing a button on the remote.
Your other option is Dish Network from the USA using a large Dish. There satelite is accessible but a large Dish is needed at least 1 1/2 meters.

Posted on May 15, 2008


I worked with a lady who's husband installed Dish Network here in the Florida panhandle. I asked him the same question a year ago - if it was possible to take equipment to Colombia and use it successfully. He said he didn't know, but "maybe". An installer or technician ... a guy actually out in the field with experience hooking the dishes up; I think would be the type of person that would know. Direct TV customer service probably doesn't want people to use US equipment, and purposely steers them away from the idea??? Just a hunch.

Posted on May 15, 2008


OK let me repeat. You can not get Direct TV USA in Colombia. You can get DISH NETWORK USA if you have a large DISH and bring a reciever from USA.

Posted on May 15, 2008


and you need obviously a direct shot at the satelite and room for the large Dish.

Posted on May 15, 2008


I don't know about the equipment from here working in Colombia but the position of the dish has to be perfect and only a tech would know based on the numbers.

I work for DIRECTV and I'm not too familiar with installation because I'm not a tech. But this is the receiver that the customer service rep was talking about:

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=P4380072

It's a satellite system that you can take anywhere with you and it might work in Colombia.

Posted on May 15, 2008


I should work, but is quite expensive and not practical, the antena needs to be really high in order to get a good signal.

The best bet is slingbox. anyone wanting to see it working sent me a PM. I got directv, thinking about switching

Posted on May 15, 2008


I know, I wouldn't pay that much for that. Plus the screen is like what? 13" maybe 17"? Not worth it at all.

Posted on May 15, 2008


Different strokes for different folks, but this picture makes no sense to me. I'd send the kids out to form a perimeter line and keep the bears away and get busy with my wife in the tent. Beer on a camping trip, for sure. Lugging around satellite TV, Nyet!

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Posted on May 15, 2008


I've been doing some research and apparently many of the satellites offer what is called a spot beam vs a hemi beam. Most of the programmers in the US for example put the local channels on the same satellite chanel - using spot beams. So ABC in Miami could be on the same channel as NBC on Atlanta, WB in Dallas or CBS in LA - using spot beams. This saves channels for the programmer. The hemi beams are designed to focus or aim the power to a specific area. It would be a waste of money for Direct TV to push their signal evenly over the hemisphere when their contracts with programmers only apply to the domestic US. If you notice, they offer different packages for Alaska and Hawaii since those signals arrive from different sources. So I would assume the normal packages for the mainland US are not available in these areas.

The direct TV mobile receiver is available for those who camp and travel within the US. I checked about getting one to bring here but Direct TV doesnt support no endorse their programming outside of the US. There are no refunds on this device.

I found this link - http://www.dssliquidators.com/ftachannellist.php

This uses what is called Free-to-Air - these are basically channels available in the US that are not encryped. Many of these channels are available in South America -- using the hemisphere beam on the various satellites to pick up un-encryped programming available on the birds. So for a couple of hundred dollars it possible to get a system but most of the programming available here in Colombia would be in Spanish (free if anything from the states).

This site - http://www.lyngsat.com while technical, is an excellent resource on what satellites are orbiting and available to viewers in different parts of the world.

For example http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/eds1_mercosul.html shows the power distribution of this one transponder (channel on a satellite) and you will notice the power is aimed towards lower SA.

Most of the transponders are encryped that I can see. Look at this beam from SatMex6 satellite using the C3 beam -- http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/sm6_c3.html

This is incredible.

Satellites are on Ku (12 gig) or C (4 gig) bands. Direct TV and Dish use KU - which are the smaller dishes 18 inches, 30 cm, etc. The C bands are the big ones that were popular in the US 10-15 years ago, Most people had 8 footers, in South Florida we needed at 12 foot to get a crystal clear picture. In the islands we would use 16 foot horizon-to-horizon dishes.

So I have been busy doing research and while learning a lot, am bummed out in that I want to bring my hi-def Direct TV box that i get 120 channels in 720p in Coral Springs down here to Medellin.

For the record, I read somewhere the the Senate of Colombia passed a law some time ago that Colombia would be hi-def by the end of 2012.

I need to run and meet someone for lunch in Envigado. Larry

Posted on May 15, 2008


It's actually a digital signal, not hi-def. I was also confused about that until someone explained it to me.

Posted on May 15, 2008


OK let me say it again Direct TV USA will not work in Colombia. You can not hit the satelite. DISH Network will for sure work in Cartagena and Baranquilla and maybe in Medelin and Cali but not sure.

Posted on May 15, 2008


also don't confuse Direct TV from USA and Direct TV Latin America. They are on 2 different satellites. Direct TV Latin America is available in Colombia but does not have the Networks from USA however it does have alot of USA stations and lots of stations you can watch in English just by pressing a button on the remote.

Posted on May 15, 2008


here is what we need - a device that connects to the LNB on my antennas at home - 950-1450mhz -- converts the signal into IP then transfers it to me here via a VPN. From my VPN here I bring out the down converted 950-1450 mhz signal and then connect this to the Direct TV receiver - then in theory I am watching TV via the receiver here in El Pablado using my antenna and LNBs back in Coral Springs. This would work beyond a doubt - its just finding the way to bring the down converted signal over IP.

By the way, I use a VPN (Virtual Private Network) to connect to the US. This assigns my computer here a US IP address so I look to the world as I am on the internet in Florida. I can bring up all the ads for PPC when testing my website, make voice calls using skype (since they check the IP origin), print to my printers in Florida, update the computers in Florida, work on my router, make bank transactions, etc.

Sorry to ramble, but I agree with scott321 after looking at the satellite patterns, it would take a very large KU antenna to pickup Direct TV US here in Medellin which I would consider impossible for me due to costs. The pattern of the signal is basically beamed down on the US mainland and falls off sharply after.

I packing and going to Guatape for the weekend with a blackberry but NO laptop!

larry

Posted on May 15, 2008


Skype charges for international rates when calling the US from Colombia based on the IP address. EPM assigns my network one of their IP addresses which is assigned to Colombia. Skype sees this want wants to charge international rates to call the US. If I have a US IP address then its seen as a domestic call. VPNs are secure tunnels between two points, kind of like a pipe and the traffic runs between them.

Larry

Posted on May 15, 2008


larryrn

Very instructive, on the FTA solution the antena is quite big and it is not legal in Colombia, only in regions where regular operators don´t get good signal. And it must be aquired as a group.

Posted on May 15, 2008


i am going to work usa...can i take my direct tv receiver from Buenos Aires and will it work in USA

Posted on May 15, 2008