Did you meet someone that is a Gorrero? Is that part of a culture or it depends on the person?

Colombiche says on Dec 13, 2007, 08:32:

Goterero is a more shameless version of the gorrero (freeloader).

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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LilaM says on Dec 13, 2007, 08:48:

jajajajaja yes that´s true, is worst than that ajajaj

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 13, 2007, 08:50:

yes, it becomes a pain then what do you but to avoid them, have dinner before he or she arrives or after he or she leaves. We have quite few in Villavo and they are becoming a real pain and the worse is they don't get the hints

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LilaM says on Dec 13, 2007, 08:57:

Well I thought that that was just for colombian people but what I see is that is not....

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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Colombiche says on Dec 13, 2007, 08:59:

That is why you put the broomstick by the door (la escoba en la puerta).

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Dec 13, 2007, 09:00:

El goterero es de los que llega a una comida, traga como loco, y despues se lleva el sobradito para la casa.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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LilaM says on Dec 13, 2007, 09:06:

jajajajajaj the broomstick behind the door works for sure... ejejej es de los que se despide, muy bonita la comida, muy sabrosa tu mama mil gracias

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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msaucey says on Dec 13, 2007, 09:10:

Nope never come across one....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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slguy says on Dec 13, 2007, 09:24:

speaking of...here's a foto of the crash my ex had. Not much left of her, but her vehicle seems to have survived ok....;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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miamimike says on Dec 13, 2007, 10:24:

LOL Great Picture SL Guy! I used to say the same thing to my dad about this wife, my Stepmother the Bruja!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Dec 13, 2007, 10:26:

kat1 says on Thursday December 13th, 2007 8:50:

yes, it becomes a pain then what do you but to avoid them, have dinner before he or she arrives or after he or she leaves. We have quite few in Villavo and they are becoming a real pain and the worse is they don't get the hints
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Hey I heard that Kat! Are you talking about me? LOL

In english we always called 'em a Sponge or a Mooch!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 13, 2007, 10:34:

got the hint miamimike... did you notice the broom behind the door?

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msaucey says on Dec 13, 2007, 10:37:

I've actually had worse.... Back in my old partying days.... I used to have an open door policy, people would come over, BBQ, drink beers and wouldn't leave for days.... But, oddly enough, everyone had to do something else when it was time to stock up on supplies....

No more open door policies....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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El Polo says on Dec 13, 2007, 10:38:

There is this guy we call medio metro, he is really short, he's about 4 feet tall, this is guy is your classic "Goterero" unsuspecting people usually give him shots to "see the little guy go" but by the time the party is over he is the last "man" standing. and hasnt forked over a dime for the ron.

we all already know his antics, and when we spot him coming over, all you hear is (esconde la botella marica, ahi viene medio metro)

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LilaM says on Dec 13, 2007, 10:39:

Jajajja yes they don´t get the hint that´s true.

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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El Polo says on Dec 13, 2007, 10:39:

Kat this guy gets the hint, but he doesnt care

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Strobers says on Dec 13, 2007, 10:57:

I worked with a woman liked that. Two times we had lunch and both times on the way to the restaurant she said, "Oh darn, I forgot to stop off at the bank and get some cash." The third time she tried pulling that stunt I asked her where her bank was and I would drive her there. She got totally flustered and stammered somthing about needing to make sure she had money with her.

What a twit.

That was the last time we had lunch. I personally can't stand people who can't pull their own financial weight.

"Life is too serious to be taken seriously"

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LilaM says on Dec 13, 2007, 11:06:

Strobers, The worst thing is when is a date, I don´t know but if the guy invites the guy pays, or not? that is very latino don´t you think? Or maybe i´m wrong.... Latino culture is a little bit different but i have a couple of dissapointments bc of that...

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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msaucey says on Dec 13, 2007, 11:38:

Lila... It's because the new trend is... I'll ivite and you pay... My mom always pulls that on me... Yo invito y tu pagas....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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dwmte7 says on Dec 13, 2007, 12:09:

lismosneros...

dwmte

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Strobers says on Dec 13, 2007, 12:16:

Hi Lila,

I agree that if you ask a woman on a date you should pay. I would consider that a traditionally accepted social norm. However, we were just co-workers and I was as attracted to her as Superman is attracted to Kriptonite. In that case, it's pretty clear-cut that it's a Dutch lunch.

I think sometimes people like to play dumb, like this woman did, because they think it's a clever, manipulative ploy, but it just invites resentment.

When I go to Colombia and invite a couple out, we pay because we invited them. However, on subsequent social forays I would expect them to pay or each couple pays on their own.

That's one thing I love about my wife's family. When we took the bus to the finca that we stayed at the first week of our trip, her mom and sister insisted on paying their own way. We paid for the rental of the ranch and they wanted to demonstrate that they were willing to help too. Those kinds of things really impress me. It becomes very uncomfortable, and stifling, when people just expect you to pay because you are a foreignor. It should be a shared load, which makes everyone responsible to some degree.

"Life is too serious to be taken seriously"

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LilaM says on Dec 13, 2007, 15:03:

jajajajaja the thing about kriptonite was funny. Well that´s true if you help sometimes is ok for me too.

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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slguy says on Dec 13, 2007, 17:32:

tacano es tacano. has little to do with the culture. at best, culture's an excuse for being tacano, if someone's looking for an excuse. ;)

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LilaM says on Dec 13, 2007, 18:38:

jajaja slguy that is soooooooo true, when someone invented the first excuse, he found lotsssssssssssss of fans ejejje

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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john_stark says on Dec 13, 2007, 21:26:

It's always the culture. Yet when I go to Monteria I don't pay for a thing because I am a guest. I guess those people just aren't in the same "culture" even though they've lived in Colombia all their lives.

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miamimike says on Dec 14, 2007, 03:51:

When I'm out with a group, as soon as I spot the Waiter bringing the Bill, I excuse myself and head for the Men's Room while the others sort out the bill. After I figured its all settled, I come back and drop 2 Bucks on the table as my share and a Tip! LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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LilaM says on Dec 14, 2007, 05:35:

Of course john stark if you say you are invited is supposed to be that way, here we like to share and we don´t mind if you eat a lot or drink a lot, if you say "You are invited" is really that way, but anyway is nice to bring something for the host, some wine, flowers, a dessert, or at least wash the dishes ejejejjeje. jajajaj Miamimike your friends already know what you do, now they are going to talk to the waiter and give him a tip just to make him bring the bill when all your friends are in the Ladies room jajajajaj

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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tompower says on Dec 14, 2007, 11:18:

Whenever they say Tacano or Codo in the coast they always slap their elbows. Lila what's that all about??

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Colombiche says on Dec 14, 2007, 11:21:

"Yet when I go to Monteria I don't pay for a thing because I am a guest. I guess those people just aren't in the same "culture" even though they've lived in Colombia all their lives."

JS, I think you misunderstood the post. I don't think that Lila was saying that being a freeloader is part of colombian culture... hell no. what I understood she was saying is that the gorrero and the goterero are two recurring characters in colombian folklore and we are going into a profound analysis of the differences between the two.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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LilaM says on Dec 14, 2007, 11:28:

Well you know we, latin people, use gestures to comunicate like italian people, argentinian (jejeje they believe they are italian) in a way, so if you see people on the streets talking, you can guess what they are talking about, bc of their gestures . That´s why we use different gestures, the elbows slapping is kind of saying, when someone is going to give you something they have to extend the arm, and we do that is bc that person has a tied elbow, so they cannot extend their arms to give anything to anyone. Here we say that person is tacaño and we he is sleeping and dreaming about he is drinking a cup of coffee, he wake up very fast, bc he doesn´t want to pay for that coffee!!! ejejej Todo al gratin!!!

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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Lowell says on Dec 14, 2007, 11:29:

It's body language used. Scratching the side of your face means theif. Mimicing pulling a triger is someone who is a killer or a signal that you may be shot for doing something. I do the elbow thing too.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 14, 2007, 11:46:

I met one of those. He needed a place to stay; I felt sorry. Can't let a Colombian amigo homeless...three years later I had to move out to a samaller flat to get rid of that person.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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LilaM says on Dec 14, 2007, 12:00:

Ufff Desideria sorry for that, but I think that a gorrero person is like that because of the nest he comes from, I think that mom and father make them that way.....

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 14, 2007, 12:13:

Haha, my own fault for being such a bleeding heart. I should've known better; the guy was famous for not moving his butt from the couch he had parked on. He thought he was very smart for being able to take advantage of people and situations.

But...there are people like that in every culture and every country.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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LilaM says on Dec 14, 2007, 12:34:

That issssss sooooooooooo true

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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john_stark says on Dec 14, 2007, 15:58:

I understood what she was saying. It's just that so often people use "it's the culture" as some kind of excuse for this behavior. It's isn't the culture. They're mal educados.

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LilaM says on Dec 14, 2007, 21:09:

jejjejeje john thats soooooooo true. Well you can be tacaño or in bankrupcity or just poor jeejej that's an excuse don't you think? and yes doc you offer to pay something if you are invited but someday you have to invite to ejejej

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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LilaM says on Dec 16, 2007, 20:03:

that's right doc, when you can why don't do it!!

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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capitan_centella says on Dec 16, 2007, 21:26:

"That was the last time we had lunch. I personally can't stand people who can't pull their own financial weight."

You don´t know my sister in law!. . . .

she´s the best GOTERERO. I know.

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

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jay007 says on Dec 25, 2007, 21:29:

i have a crush on you

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Cerealkiller says on Dec 26, 2007, 06:30:

UGH I hate gorreros...honestly. I recently had a bad experience with an old friend who came to visit and well "credit card doesn't work in the UK" yet it gave her 20 pounds and nothing else...go figure.
My best friend in Colombia pulled the same crap on occasion and the problem was she has a very expensive taste and likes to be seen where all beautiful people are...I have no problem with that, I love nice places myself, but when she eats like a pig, orders drinks, desert etc and then "sorry i dont have enough money and still need to pay for parking" then well...it starts bothering me. Thank god she found a bf who pays for all her shit though...I hate gorreros. I am not stingy myself, and I seldom carry cash on me because cash is dirty and full of germs but if I know a certain place doesnt take cards then I freaking go out of my way and find an ATM, so I have no sympathy for the cashless...

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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