Diamon Rings In Colombia:

Lipper says on Aug 10, 2008, 20:41:

Are you wearing American Jeans? Then put it in the small change pocket and no one will ever know. Or you sock. Always works for me with contraband .

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Lisa Zee says on Aug 10, 2008, 22:25:

Don`t declare it, or say it is zirconium, and you paid $20.00 usd. I wear mine and I don`t say anything, how do they know it is new!?

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beisbollover says on Aug 11, 2008, 10:13:

Go to a local store that sells costume jewelry and buy a ring for 10 bucks. then toss it and take the receipt with you just in case you have to show it. Don't bring the ring box with you. That would be the dead give a way. You can buy one in Colombia.

"The reason you don't understand me Edith is because I am speaking English but you are listening Dingbat!" -Archie Bunker

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nbenjamin says on Aug 11, 2008, 10:17:

Thanks for the advice.

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mike08 says on Aug 11, 2008, 18:45:

i recently brought an engagement ring and wedding ring in the box through customs without a problem.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 11, 2008, 18:51:

Not trying to rain on your parade but why the fok are you buying a 3.0 carat ring? For a barrio girl or for an educated professional? Either way, take it back and buy her a .25 or at most a .50 carat ring. She will still love you just as much as if you would have bought her a 3.0 carat ring.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 11, 2008, 19:50:

I think your bigger problem will be the risk of theft and the difficulty in obtaining insurance.

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deathnova says on Aug 11, 2008, 21:14:

Yeah really, mine got a 1/4 carat and she couldn't be happier.

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 11, 2008, 21:53:

It doesn't matter if it is a 3 cr. or 1/2 cr. ring, Once you are married, she will still bitch at you for every little thing... Save the cash for beer money....You will need it.....

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nbenjamin says on Aug 11, 2008, 21:58:

Gringo Spy ... LOL - True that - this girl has never seen a diamond. Whether she is a barrio girl? That she is not.

Tinto - true that as well. I am going to insure that here - and if anything goes wrong - well someone broke into my car in down town.

I am a llittle worried someone might cut off her finger - and she through the years has had an incredible nack for losing valuable items (well like cell phones and sht like that). But whatever you live once. And if you are going to buy a diamond do it right. Right? ANd I can swing it.

Also it is not 3 K. It is a 1.5 center surrounded by to .75.k three diamond engagement.

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deathnova says on Aug 11, 2008, 22:07:

So basically shes going to have a missing finger and you'll be out $5000. Just get the cheaper ring.

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morphus says on Aug 12, 2008, 05:29:

A diamond is overkill in Colombia. Cubic Zirconium is the way to go.

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webmanco says on Aug 12, 2008, 05:38:

Joel y Luza
It doesn't matter if it is a 3 cr. or 1/2 cr. ring, Once you are married, she will still bitch at you for every little thing... Save the cash for beer money....You will need it.....

CK We (women) are simple beings :)

Funny and helpful to the point.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 08:03:

"$ 5,000"

try "15,000."

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Aug 12, 2008, 08:05:

i did, no problem i put it as part of my personally jewelry

although it got stolen in Colombia :((( ,long story...

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ColombianoGringo says on Aug 12, 2008, 08:06:

Sounds like you paid retail. You should never pay even close to retail on a ring.

In any case, I wouldn't worry about customs. The idea to stick it in your change pocket will work.

A lot of people freaked out when I asked about insuring my wife's engagement ring. There were dire predictions of every evil that would befall her if she wore an expensive ring in Colombia. Obviously, she will want to be careful where she wears it. A lot depends on where she lives, but if she is discreet, she should be fine.

On that note, it appears to be very difficult to insure a ring in Colombia unless she or her family has property insurance already. I tried to get insurance for a ring with an appraised value in the neighborhood of yours and would have only been able to do it through my relatives in Bogota. I opted against this since my debit card offers a year of loss or theft prevention.

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Mononoke28 says on Aug 12, 2008, 09:14:

My husband and I went to Platería Ramírez in Cali to get our wedding bands. I made the big, big, big mistake of saying "honey, let me get a simple 18k white gold wedding band to wear in Colombia so it doesn't get stolen, and once we're in the US we can get the diamond one".

Yeah.. we did get the simple band and today I'm stuck with this sucker since the diamond one looks more like a dream now. =~(

Diana

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 12, 2008, 09:39:

But are you still in love?

:-)

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morphus says on Aug 12, 2008, 09:41:

You could always try asking your grandma for her diamond if she has one. Thats what my friend did when he got married. He got the ring re-sized and his wife was very happy.

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Saltador says on Aug 12, 2008, 09:57:

Dude, it's not too late. Sell the 15,000 ring and bring her a 250 dollar one. She'll be just as happy.
15,000? Are you crazy?

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 10:36:

$ 15,000 - retail? No, I did not go to Macy or tiffany's or something like that. I went to downtown Los Angeles - and bought the actual diamonds separate from the ring. The diamonds went for about $ 12,400. Then I put together the ring at a different spot for about $ 2,000.

You could not buy this ring for $ 5,000. Maybe, you could get the thing for, $ 10,500 - if you knew people and the doode making the ring was doing you a favor and the doode selling the diamonds was doing you a favor.

Go find a 1.5 carat ring surrounded by two .75 carats (also color is all D, cut all "ideal", and clarity SI) for $ 5,000 and I will give you $1,000.

15000 - it is not the amount that is important - it is all relative - if I was a struggling waiter than maybe a $ 2,000 ring would be great if I was a millionaire maybe 100,000 would be appropriate - but I gotta hook my girl up.

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ColombianoGringo says on Aug 12, 2008, 10:43:

Downtown Los Angeles. Good man. That is where I got the main diamond for my wife's ring. I have family in the jewelry business so they helped me with finding a good deal. Like I said, only suckers pay retail for diamonds.

She wanted a heart shaped cut. These are relatively rare and very expensive. Luckily, a place in downtown LA got it for me with a 1.2 Carats, D color and SI clarity center stone for right at about Rappaport(wholesale) price. Any retail jewelry store would have charged double what it cost me if they could even get me something comparable.

I also had the ring custom made. One thing to note is that white gold and platinum seem fairly uncommon in Colombia so a lot of people mistake them for silver. That should help draw less attention.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 11:32:

Thanks for all the advice - so I think I will just walk it through the medal detector and hope nothing goes wrong.

C-Gringo - Yeah - no question the only way to buy a ring is downtown los angeles. Is that the diamond capital of the world? Or I wonder if NY would provide better deals when getting diamonds. I had no connections I just went down there dealt with a few different people and went with the people I liked.

One Last question. In medellin you have to walk through a medal detector - Is there a medal detector walking through at Bogota - I cannot remember?

Thanks again for everyones help.

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Mononoke28 says on Aug 12, 2008, 13:54:

morphus says on Aug 12 (today):
You could always try asking your grandma for her diamond if she has one. Thats what my friend did when he got married. He got the ring re-sized and his wife was very happy.
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Well, my grandma was married to a coffee farmer, very poor family. I seriously don't think she ever saw a diamond ring in her life.

But anyway, love schmlove... the whole "love" thing is overrated. =)

Diana

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bickerss says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:14:

2 months salary is the 'western womens'' standard expectation is it not? Thanks god Colombian women have not heard of that one!!

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:43:

$15,000. WTH. Seriously, is this a joke? You are officially the craziest gringo on PBH.

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Saltador says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:53:

Yup. No offense nbenjamin, but you're just throwing money out the window. Can't help but think you're probably young and just need some wisdom gained from "life lessons".
Also have a feeling you're about to get one...

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:56:

Fifteen x-tra large will get you a lifetime of prepagos! What head are you thinking with man? Take that foking ring back and buy her a Cubic Z or at most a .25 or .50 center stone diamond ring with a few tiny ones on the sides. Listen to all of the great advice given here on PBH. If nothing else you must think of her safety! She will never be able to wear that 3.0 ring in public because THEY WILL cut her finger off to get it! Anyone who buys a ring like that for a Colombian woman is suffering from an inferiority complex and is using the status of the BIG diamond to make himself bigger than he really is... IMHO of course

I seriously don't mean to piss in your corn flakes but get a grip man and smell the coffee! Oh, BTW I speak from experience on this subject. My qualifications are not something I'm proud of... I did something similar although she wasn't from Colombia, she was a Gringa, and I bought her a $36k ring. Still have it in the box in a drawer as I can't see selling it for half of what I paid for it so it sits there and reminds me of my foolishness and stupidity.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:00:

GS,

You're probably the least crazy gringo on PBH because you actually got it back =D

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:18:

LOL - all great advice.

I agree - just young and dumb and enjoying life.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:35:

I'm not sure what's enjoying about being $15,000 in the hole and in the same place you started otherwise.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:36:

BTW: That ring is getting stolen, even the safer places in the U.S. would be dangerous walking around with something like that.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:51:

Money is relative. If 15k is really not that much. Here, a condo in a decent neighborhood is 600k.

In Los Angeles or New York or cities like these - a ring of that Magnitude is nice but it is far from excessive. In the Westside of Los Angeles, (specifically, Santa Monica) that ring will be common - and is a requirement so that she does not feel left out. So the ring will not make her a target. Furthermore, it will be insured - so I am not worried.

"I'm not sure what's enjoying about being $15,000 in the hole and in the same place you started otherwise." - I will tell you what is enjoying how happy she will be. Nothing more. It is worth it to me.

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ColombianoGringo says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:52:

"even the safer places in the U.S. would be dangerous walking around with something like that."

What planet do you live on? I know lots of women with much more expensive rings in the US and they never get bothered. The center stone on my mother's ring is 3 carat and she never takes it off. I don't know where you live in the US, but in the nice areas around here, nobody is getting mugged.

My wife wore her ring in Colombia for a long time and was never bothered. In fact, she had her cell phone stolen once and the thieves didn't even look twice at the ring. Obviously, you have to be somewhat discreet, but lots of women in my family in Colombia have expensive jewelry and nobody has had any fingers cut off.

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Lipper says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:16:

"but I gotta hook my girl up"

Don't you really mean that you feel self conscious that she might be out of your league and you need to buy her love?

I give this relationship 6 months after she gets her resident green card.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:34:

Jesus - lipper that was weak. Out of my league? I am 29 she is 27. She is smoking, I am solidly good looking. Definitely not as hot as her, but definitely good looking and have always pulled hot women. I am nice she is nice. I have a good heart she has a good heart. Both of us have college degrees. I have a graduate degree. She has a decent job. I have a really good job - one that would allow me to purchase a 15k ring without thinking it was the end of the world or a ton of money. You guys act like I bought her the two door Bentley.

Listen if the standard was two months salary I would spend 30k on the ring. I did not spend that. Jesus - I understand that we all come from different backgrounds - but lay off. If I made 1.2 million a year I would spend 50k plus on a ring. If I made 50k I would spend 2k. All relative. Relax. I am not telling you you have to spend that.

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Lon7 says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:55:

Ok playa!

I can see it now. This guy has been running off his mouth to this girl. The big shot American who tools around El Poblado in his 7 jeans, Versace knockoff pimp sunglasses telling the poor girls of Colombia about all his worldly adventures and great conquests!

You go Jack Sparrow, you da man!

I give it 1 month after the green card!

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Lon7 says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:58:

Got a pic of your trophy girl?
A picture is worth a thousand words and so far you are all words.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 17:14:

Lon7 = troll.

damn a lot of angry people who would ever have guessed that 15k would drive so many people absolutely nuts.

One guy is calling me out that the girl is out of my league the next guy is calling me out that the girl is not that hot and wants a post. she is hot, it is what it is. All I wanted was advice on whether I could bring it through customs. And this is the negative reaction I invite.

Damn - 15k, not 150k. chill out.

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arthur brode says on Aug 12, 2008, 17:15:

take it from me Benji.....i have seen Gringos get taken to the Cleaners....in the long run you are going to wish you had kept it street with the prepagos

http://www.calirentals.net/

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ColombianoGringo says on Aug 12, 2008, 17:39:

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 17:47:

if I could determine how to blur her face I will post tonight once I am off work.

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jonas says on Aug 12, 2008, 17:52:

you are not going to blur it with your fists I hope

Mi alma se la dejo al diablo

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:07:

LMFAO at Lon7 .. you got it wrong, it's 2 yrs. That's how long the green card is conditional.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:19:

Kalico - what bs?

I asked whether I could bring a 15k ring through custom nothing else. These people are the rookies acting like 15k is some incredible amount of money - everyone on this blog showed their cards right there - acting like 15k is crazy change. I make that in a month. Thats it. Not 3 months not 4 months one f-ing month. Imagine this - if you (all of you) could pull that down in a month what would you do? Well - I do it - because I make it.

There is no saving up - that is credit card change. So I am unclear on what you are calling bullshit on. Let me make something clear - you live in LA - you are under 30 - and you make over 180k a year (I realize that is not crazy money but it is very solid money) no chick is out of your league and you are not rolling with nasty chicks either. nothing but the plushest of plush.

I dont have to lie it is what it is. Not crazy money - but everyone here knows that that is solid money for a doode under 30 - and very few people can compete at this age. I would guess it is in the top 98 percentile for my age. My chick - she is probably an "LA 9" to an LA 10.

A colombian 8 or 9. A couple people on her have seen her - I was in Medellin and I went to some doode on here's bar to watch the Lakers play the Spurs - But I cannot remember what that doodes name was. He put a post on here - find that doode ask him.

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arthur brode says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:19:

Benji,tell these dudes that if they want to see some Colombianas to take a hike up Tres Cruces at around midnight....i got your back Benji.....you do not need to prove anthing to these Clowns

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:25:

Yes nben that's exactly what you should do... Take abrode's advice. You can trust it! He's definitely in your league, living in the crime ridden filthy shit hole of Cali pushing rentals he doesn't even own. You're safe he's "got your back". OMG the humorous reading her on PBH is incredible.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:26:

Death Nova - IYou bought your girl a .25 carat ring because (and we all know why) that is all you could afford doode. I would be embarrased - at that size it is better just to skip out on the diamond get nothing. 1/4 carat classic. dont show off about that - it is not something to be proud of. that sht does not even come in gold.

But you are young - or you look 22 ish in your picture - so in your defense I did not start making money until after grad school 28. And that girl in the pic she looks like she is decent looking not a 3 carat girl but you should at least try and get her 3/4 of a carat or something? Damn.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:30:

you know who saw her - the mad man saw her. That is who - he was with some doode who is also on this blog in Medellin we were at a bar - watching the lakers verse the spurs. I remembered his name. Talk to him for confirmation. According to his website - he pulls decent strange.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:32:

nben; If you want to keep up a good reputation I wouldn't advertise you hang with one of the whoremongers in Medello.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:37:

Gringo Spy - true that. But his buddy has a restaurant that was playing the Lakers v. Spurs.

Anyhow doode saw my girlfriend he got all nervous - he knew she was hot. He was a group of "whoremongers" one of them was really cool one was a bit weird. I just watched the game.

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arthur brode says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:38:

G.S.I rather be living in the crime ridden filthy PARADISE of Cali MANAGING rentals that i have not invested any of my $ in than be in your shoes.
thank you!

http://www.calirentals.net/

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:40:

G-Spy - also smaking off about AB - AB is a PBH staple and a legend - he lived the life we all wanted to. Picked up and left. No obligations, no boss screaming down his neck, no mortgage, no 15k diamonds, none of that Bullshit. just hot Calenas hanging with my man as he lays pipes and rents places on the side.

G-Spy - calling at AB - who are you? What do you do? where do you live?

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:42:

AB - who the F--- is this GS character? WHo are all these kids who just get on here make a handle and smack off?

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:44:

nben: Similar to you but X3. Retired very young now investing internationally living the good life in three countries.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:45:

If you are retired we are not similar. i.e., I am starting my life out - you are finishing it off? What three countries?

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:47:

I am a lawyer. Retired? Did you invest for a living? What kind of investments?

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:48:

This is out of honest curiosity.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:50:

Kalico - Did nt I already make a mess of you back there. Doode I am younger than you, better looking than you, and I make more money than you. Guess what doode - if chick takes all my money and leaves for a richer better looking doode in LA than I will still be in a better position than you. I thought I already put an end to you doode. You smack off with know come back - you are a joke doode.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:51:

Kaliko - you dont even speak spanish do you doode? You dont I can already tell. You smack off about madman - truth is I dont know the guy - but at least doode speaks spanish.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:56:

If you are in fact a lawyer as you claim be sure to write a solid prenuptial agreement.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:11:

Ahh... the envious surface.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:22:

I didn't know lawyers went around calling eachother "doode."

In all seriousness though, I make well above the per capita but not $180k. I own two businesses (one telecom security, another forex managed investments). I support my fiancee and I do tend to spend a lot on her but STILL, the most expensive thing i've bought her was < $700. I'm 25 to be exact.

I'm not sure if you realize this but $15k is a LOT of cash for most of North America. I call BS only because people who really have money like you have don't spout off about it unless they won the lottery or some rich uncle died.

Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're totally legit, you have $180k/yr and $15k is chump change. Why would you make this known in a poor country? First, you're begging to get robbed, kidnapped, etc. Second, you have no way of telling if the girl is really in love with you because you laid it all out up front!

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arthur brode says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:24:

Thats right Benji,i picked up and split with my ATM card and Passport in hand at the ripe old age of 37(how young is "very young" G.S.?)

Benji,you dont know who G.S.is??? He is that player haten troll with the "poorbuthappy" handle that got his account deleted a while back.

Benji,dont post any pics of your girl because Gsnitch will most likely smack off to it

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:28:

death: nben is new money and new money always likes to brag about what they have. It makes them feel important. It's his way of putting everyone around him down in a roundabout way.

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arthur brode says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:30:

Gringo Spy says on Aug 12 (today): flag
death: nben is new money and new money always likes to brag about what they have. It makes them feel important.
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if that is true then why do you always brag about what you have???

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:32:

ab; You won! Congratulations! You got me beat by a couple of years. Now get back to work and answer those emails from tourist who need an apartment to rent (that you don't own) in your filthy crime ridden city of Cali. P.s. Never brag... only facts.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:42:

I love night shift

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:46:

Me too!

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:01:

--- Wait a sec - go through the history of this post. I never bragged until pushed. I just wanted to know whether taking a 15k ring through the medal detector.

I am a first-will be second year (in about a month) lawyer at an international law firm. First year starting salary at big firms is 160k plus bonus (bonus ranges between 15-50k and up to 150k if you are in NY, but 15-50 in LA). The salary is the same at every major commercial litigation firm.

You guys are acting as if 15k is this huge amount of money. I tried my hardest to be cool and say hey money all depends on where you come from. But you guys keep pushing it. So I had to clarify to me 15k is not an enormous amount of money it is about 1 months salary. An I will advertise all I want. I live in LA. This money is solid for LA - but anybody who has lived in LA knows that this money is not spectacular here and willl not get me robbed or kidnapped.

GS - you do seem like a troll - I mean you are attacking me for no apparent reason. I only said that I wanted to know how to get this ring in the country and you start to unload on me. I tried to be nice - what type of investment. And surprise - you do not answer.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:04:

At what point did I "attack" you? I simply advised you to take the ring back and buy her something much smaller. And gave my opinion of the type of person you are based upon the information you have so readily provided about yourself in this post. READ MY COMMENTS ABOVE!

Real estate and then some.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:07:

Finally - if I was going to lie:


1st I would choose a better profession if I were to lie. I mean lawyer - that is just a normal solid profession. I got lucky through hardwork and got a great job out of law school

2nd I would choose a hire salary.

Also if you want to fact check - find out what some of the largest Commercial litigation firms are. Here is a list of some of the more prestigious firms in the US - http://www.vault.com/nr/lawrankings.jsp?law2009=1&ch_id=242

Call and ask what starting salary is - it is 160k plus bonus.


And yes lawyers use terms like doode and are normal people when f--ing around on a blog


AND DAMN ALL I WANTED TO KNOW IS WHETHER I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM THROUGH CUSTOMS - I did not know you kids would get all out of shape.

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arthur brode says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:09:

Gringo Spy says on Aug 12
Real estate and then some
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there it is....i was right....its "poorbuthappy":)

http://www.calirentals.net/

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:10:

GS - How are you going to knock Cali? Cali is off the chain - it is the best city in Colombia. Medellin is for pussies who dont have the guts to go to cali.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:11:

nben: Why are you so defensive? No one has accused you of lying. Other than your obvious lack of spelling ability I believe you are an attorney. Only an attorney would brag about that.

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arthur brode says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:17:

nbenjamin says on Aug 12 (today)
GS - How are you going to knock Cali? Cali is off the chain - it is the best city in Colombia. Medellin is for pussies who dont have the guts to go to cali.
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Thank You!
And case closed!

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:20:

nben: There you go talking out of the wrong end of your anatomy. "Cali is off the chain - it is the best city in Colombia." WTF? Now you've confirmed your ignorance and limited knowledge of Colombia. For your information I've been to Cali many times and it's exactly how I described it, a filthy crime ridden shit hole. And by the way disregard all of my comments above about taking back the ring. Go ahead and give it to her, I'm sure she will love it and in time you will forget about her along with the $15,000 USD you paid for it when she dumps your sorry ass after she gets her green card.

ab: keep guessing, you may get it right some day.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:49:

WAIT A MINUTE... If $15k is such a small deal to you why are you risking getting busted just to skip out on paying duties?

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:51:

ok.. so lets say you actually are going to spend $15K on a ring and try to work your way through customs; let me point this little fact out for you... You are required to declare any CASH over $10k.. Even though the ring, obviously, isn't cash, the customs "doode" has very right to ask for a valuation, IF HE IS SUSPICIOUS THAT YOU ARE TRANSPORTING SAID RING IN AN ATTEMPT AT LAUNDERING MONEY. The theory is you buy it here, in the good ol' US OF A, for cash, transport it to COLOMBIA and then sell it in COLOMBIA for cash, and pay Pablo, the narco trafficker cartel cashier. This is seen every day in Customs.

What recourse do they have? confiscate the ring until a value is assigned, and be a BIG pain in your A$$. Can they keep it? If they can show it is purchased with ill gotten funds, (illegal sources, human trafficking, or tax evasion), if they want and can prove your intention to decieve and avoid declaring cash , but the burden of proof falls on your lap, TO PROVE THAT IT IS NOT!..Remember the Patriot ACT? All this stuff became prima facie evidence.

Now sell the damned thing, buy CZ, at half the carat wt, to stay off the Govt's radar.,Then buy yourself a little sumthin' sumthin' for at least part of the night...

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arthur brode says on Aug 12, 2008, 20:59:

Lipper,are you Drunk????
wtf,are you talking about??
you dont make any sense

Yes,the apartment in Granada i sold to a Gringo.so,i earned myself a 4% commission on the sale of the apartment.Plus the Gringo that bought the place has me managing the apartment for him as well.so nothing has changed except the owners.

what prepago bedding place?? i DO NOT rent Prepagos!! I rent furnished apartments!!!

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:00:

Let's get back to the $15k for a ring... Are you nucking futs?!?!?! Seriously, A little hint for you, if you are actually in this for love...buy her a nice, but inexpensive ring; at the most, $2k..Do something nice for her mamacita and papacito- not much, just something....She has sisters? drag one of them up to the States with her sometime, so they can pal around together while you are working your butt off...

I can tell you this, unless your chica is from estrato 6 and well traveled, she will never know the difference in rings, and she can care less. Doing something for her mamacita carries more wieght than a ring will any day,,

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:02:

plus you will have to call her 4 fingers McGee, if the wrong people get a glimpse of the rock(s)

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:02:

The ring is being made - and I would sell it at a loss.

Two options - wait until she arrives to give it to her. Or give it to her when I am down there. She has no idea I am comming with it.

Any how can we put aside the sh-t talking for a minute. When you walk outside in Bogota there are no Medal detectors to go through like in Medellin - is that right?

Thanks for your help and taking a moment to put aside the shit talking.

Thanks.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:03:

I have come into bogota at least 6 or 7 times - butcannot remember if there are or are not medal detectors?

THanks.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:03:

ab,

What fun is that then?

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:04:

Joel y Luza speaks the truth, that's good solid advice. What you're going to do for her family is substantially more important than anything you could buy her.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:09:

WHy the constant Shit talking to AB - AB is legend my man AB - has done what we all wish we did. Rolled to Colombia and made a life for himself. We all wish we were AB with the constant influx of new Colombianas no need to take one home with you - you live there. My man AB - rocks out with his cock out. AB lays pipe all day and rents apartments on the side.

You guys are an ongoing group of haterz.... unbelievable. My man AB - is almost as legendary on this blog as Peter himself.

These rookies on here smacking off. All I want to know is about the medal detector?

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:10:

DN "what I am going to do for her family" - I ain t doing shit for that family. I made that clear right off the bat. Ass gas or cash noone lives off me for free.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:11:

my dear nben a.k.a. next dumb gringo to get taken to the cleaners by a smart colombiana: they have detectors before you board and after you board in Medello. and they give you a pat-down on your way out. BTW ever heard of "spell check"?

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Papi de Alejo says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:12:

I was rooting for you, nbenj, until you came up with the above post. Be well.

PdA

PdA

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:14:

I deal with lawyers fairly regularly. You're not a lawyer. The "medal detector"? Seriously?

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:17:

ok... benjamin.. we have to talk.. I think you are blowing smoke up somebody's pork bellies... people throwing around $15K for rings know how to spell.. dude=doode....shit talking= talking shit...medal detectors=metal detectors... and broad casting your salary...
You are an attorney???

In case, you are actually for real, Its NOT THE METAL DETECTORS IN BOGOTA OR MEDILLIN YOU SHOULD WORRY ABOUT, it is the US customs.The Colombians? they would think you got it out a a Cracker Jack Box.

The first post I made, not tallking shit...that is a real life possibility

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:18:

Only the Olympic participants will go through the "medal detector" all else go in the metal detector line.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:23:

A flight to Colombia from the US = $800
A diamond ring from a Gringo = $15,000
A night in a shit hole apartment in Cali = $85
Confirming an attorney can't spell = Priceless!

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:26:

Benji.. you, my friend, are no attorney.. No attorney would write that gibberish you write...even a 25 year old attorney.. go back to South east LA and drink your malt liquor.....Try again later.

Or was that a 15 mil peso ring?

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:28:

TYPOS

J & L - MEDILLIN - that is not how you spell Medellin -. People make typos all the time on a blog.

DN - you do not deal with lawyers of my caliber - believe me. I dont care what you say - If you are not making well over 200k you cannot afford a decent lawyer in Los Angeles.

But I go back to my first point - which is this.

When you leave the airport at customs you go through a metal (properly spelled for cry babies) detector when in Medillin (improperly spelled to dis J & L). In bogota do you go through the detectors.

Worry about U.S. customs - hey dumb ass I am the lawyer not you. As long any item you leave the country with and return with - such as a 15k ring does not need to be declared unless you have done something to increase the value of that ring - such as add an additional diamond.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:31:

PdA - point taken you are right

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:35:

DN - you own businesses - notice something at 25 that is pretty impressive - and I dont care. i am not knocking you for it - you know why? Because I dont care. You know why I dont care - because I am not lying about being an attorney and my salary and living in so cal.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:35:

now you bunch of babies - Just answer the question - when you get off the plane in Bogota - is there a "MEDAL DETECTOR"

Thanks.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:36:

nb,

We're a bunch of middle class schmucks, we're allowed to misspell. You're a $180k/yr attorney remember? Infact, I bet you're a regular Johnny Cochran and Customs won't even mess with you. The mere sight of your name on their passport makes them wet their pants in fear of lawsuits to come.

I said I "deal with lawyers." I didn't say I hire them (unless you count my immigration attorney).

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:38:

nb,

I'll answer your question. Yes, there is a metal detector. Then there's immigration. Then there's customs. Sometimes they'll be doing 100% inspection and other times they'll only check you if you buzz when they make you hit the Easy Button.

.. but weren't you saying earlier you had already been to Colombia? You would automatically know the procedure.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:42:

DN's girl - 1/4 carat.

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:45:

$180k is the 90% percentile of professionals with 15 - 20 years experience from top universities, not 29 year olds living in LA that call people "doode."

If you must know I have a government gig, I met her on official business.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:51:

nben: You are the biggest foking fake on this site! You make comments like "Cali is off the chain - it is the best city in Colombia." and then you ask stupid ass questions about "medal detectors". If you truly had a clue about Cali one would assume, based upon your comments of how "Cali is off the chain - it is the best city in Colombia.", you would have been there at least once and having been there you would have gone through the "medal detectors" in Bogota on your way there, and if not Bogota, Medellin. My advice to you is to stop commenting here as you only further confirm to all you are a fake that can't spell and is not smart enough to figure out how to use spell check!

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:51:

DN - do you have a government gig or do you own two businesses? wait who is lying here.

Again - 29 did I say my age? But that is right. http://www.vault.com/nr/lawrankings.jsp?law2009=1&ch_id=242

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:56:

Let me put it to you this way, I very seriously doubt that you chose the name "nbenjamin" because it sounded cool. The only Benjamin's admitted to the CA bar are much older than you.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:56:

My poor uneducated attorney "doode" who makes $180k a year... "I mean that just reeeeeeeeks of bullsh--"

For your information it's spelled wreaks! Keep digging your deeper, we all love it.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:59:

180 - you know why it feels good b/c its true. You know why your "real estate" investment does not feel good because its bullshit. You know why I dont care to sit here and call you out about real estate investments - Because I dont give a shit - and it is obviously bullshit - almost as much shit as

DL - who owns 2 businesses - but now all of a sudden he is a government worker. My story doesnt change.

Real estate investment - BULL---T

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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:00:

I thought attorneys had to have deductive reasoning skills?

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:02:

GS - I am pretty sure you do not go through a metal detector entering Bogota - or I do not remeber one. But you definitely go through one in medellin.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:03:

I am just looking for help on this issue anything will be appreciated.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:05:

"Gringo Spy says on Aug 12 (today): flag
nben: You are the biggest foking fake on this site! You make comments like "Cali is off the chain - it is the best city in Colombia." and then you ask stupid ass questions about "medal detectors". If you truly had a clue about Cali one would assume, based upon your comments of how "Cali is off the chain - it is the best city in Colombia.", you would have been there at least once and having been there you would have gone through the "medal detectors" in Bogota on your way there, and if not Bogota, Medellin. My advice to you is to stop commenting here as you only further confirm to all you are a fake that can't spell and is not smart enough to figure out how to use spell check!"

nben: If you could read you would see that I also said Medellin. You not only can't spell you have a hard to reading the printed word. I pity your clients!

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:09:

DN - there are is Benjamin a first or a last name? Anyway - I would not give up too much info -
But there are plenty of attorneys with that name admitted to the bar that are my age

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member.aspx

Happy searching.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:09:

GS - I nailed you.

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:09:

so.. you are claiming to be an attorney and then make a statement that another isn't? Now, how can you be so sure???? I think you have a load of something in your "legal briefs" ...and it is pretty stinky....

Nope, not an attorney, just a dumb ass accountant that spent many years following the money, investigating money laundering, dude... a $15K ring is as good as currency... If they think you are transporting it, even if you are not, for payment of goods and services to another country, and said goods and services are illegal in the states, (think coca and Colombia in the same thought, dumb ass), AND YOU ARE TRYING, or it appears that you are trying, TO SKIRT THE DECLARATION OF CASH AS YOU LEAVE THE COUNTRY, (Now think fraud and financial crimes in the same thought), consider your ring in temporary custody until YOU PROVE, (think prima facie evidence, first year of law school), those funds came from a legal source. If you can't prove it, beyond a reasonable doubt, color your ring gone.

I think, what people are trying to tell you is it is a huge risk, with really no purpose, in the eyes of Colombianas, to be buying and transporting a $15k ring. NOT TOO MANY COLOMBIAN CHICAS CAN PHATHOM THE VALUE...

My wife is from a very well healed Colombian family, and she blushed at the thought of a diamond ring, and refused it. She wanted an 18 kt gold band... Part of it was safety of wearing an expensive ring on the streets of Bogota..The other was that it was pretentious...

you an attorney? You are no more of an attorney than they guy who cleaned my pool this morning..Your demeanor gives you away, let alone your spelling. No attorney I work with, nor hired in my life, would carry on like a 2 year old, on a web community, bragging about their wealth and fawning over a $15k ring you are gifting to a Colombian muchacha..In fact, if they did, I would have fired them instantly.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:10:

And GS- in all seriousness I am asking about when you walk off the plan and go through customs. there is no need for all of this anger.

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:11:

nben: American flies direct to Medellin from Miami. Now who's the idiot? (This comment was made before nben edited/removed his comment above when he claimed Bogota was the only point of entry to Colombia and called me an "idiot" for saying above Medellin was a point of entry as well as Bogota (see below).

"nbenjamin says on Aug 12 (today): flag
GS - I nailed you the only entry point is bogota - you are an idiot."

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:12:

In medellin there are metal detectors when you get off the plane. I dont believe that such metal detectors are there when you go through custom on Bogota -

But in all seriousness - sh-t talking aside GS - when you get off in Bogota are there metal detectors?

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:14:

Take a look at this DN - with the first name Benjamin there are well over 500 attorneys who have passed the bar:

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_advr.aspx?lnm=l&lnq=&fnm=l&...

This is getting to easy - why dont we put the - sh-t aside - it was a lot of fun shooting the sh-t with you guys.

Best of luck with everything.

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nbenjamin says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:18:

nben:

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vicshere says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:20:

ok enough i want to go to bed now
but i did want to be part of this deleted thread

listo

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:21:

gone by 6 am eastern time?

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 12, 2008, 22:22:

You're a funny little man nben.

nbenjamin says on Aug 12 (today): flag
"I said Medellin is an entry point "

Yeah right! And where would that comment be? Spewing mores lies to make yourself look good, how pitiful.

"nbenjamin says on Aug 12 (today): flag
GS - I nailed you the only entry point is bogota - you are an idiot."


Good night all.

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deathnova says on Aug 13, 2008, 04:01:

Maybe he's going to see his "man abrode" to pick up some "yah yo."

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 13, 2008, 08:50:

Damn! I thought this thing would have been deleted this morning....Hmmmm???

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deathnova says on Aug 13, 2008, 12:47:

*rubs palms* It's almost night shift again..

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Gringo Spy says on Aug 13, 2008, 14:31:

Can't wait!

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Lipper says on Aug 13, 2008, 20:27:

Did our stud post a pic of his so boating HOTNESS OF HIS 15 thousand dollar baby or was he chicken?

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arthur brode says on Aug 13, 2008, 20:37:

use your imagination Lipper.iam sure it has worked for you in the past:)

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Joel y Luza says on Aug 13, 2008, 21:51:

no pic.. no rock...maybe a Jessica Alba look alike, but with pistol grip ears and a flat head...

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manINred says on Aug 14, 2008, 03:35:

This is hilarious. For those who are jealous of this bloke benjamin, get a life. Pretend he isn't what he says he is, a rich lawyer. His rather poor demonstration of spelling will allow you to suspend your belief and you can stop being jealous by believing he's a quack. If he really isn't a rich lawyer and just wants attention, well, you are giving him exactly what he wants.

Benjamin, if people are jealous of you, who cares? Ignore the useless comments and take with you the useful advice from this website. I should think that the amount of trouble you have at customs depends on which entry point you use. If you enter Colombia by bus through Venezuela or Ecuador, beware. If you enter by plane, just declare the damn thing at customs and pay the duties, you can afford it, so no worries.

As for the Colombianas taking him to the cleaners, if this comes to pass, a good life lesson. 15 grand ain't the end of the world, especially for someone who can afford it.

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deathnova says on Aug 14, 2008, 05:23:

manlNred,

We tried telling him if he had so much money just declare it but that didn't seem to bode well for him thus more suspicion.

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