Could we do something for this father and his son?

adela says on Jun 6, 2009, 16:40:

what?
I remember there were a topic about wheelchair in donation way...

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adela says on Jun 6, 2009, 16:42:

Desi, Kat, están por ahí? Ya me tengo que ir. Tal vez ustedes recuerden cuando alguien habló sobre sillas de ruedas para traer a Colombia. No sé si estoy incorrecta.

Pueden seguir este thread?

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adela says on Jun 6, 2009, 16:56:

¿Será posible esto también para el chico en Bogotá? Hay una parte lastimera en la narración sobre la situación del pelado que no me gusta.

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Lisa Zee says on Jun 6, 2009, 21:58:

Me parte el alma ver estas historias y yo con una silla en mi garaje esperando que alguien la lleve, y otra en la Florida. Y otras 18 mas esperando ser llevadas allá en la Florida también.

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adela says on Jun 7, 2009, 01:44:

Lisa, ¿sabes la manera en la que tal vez una línea colombiana no te cobre por la silla? Yo podría enviarte una pequeña donación de dinero, algo como usd25 o usd50. Así podrías tal vez pagar un impuesto. Bueno, es una idea.

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adela says on Jun 7, 2009, 02:07:

Te he enviado un mensaje, Lisa. Mil gracias

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 7, 2009, 02:28:

Lisa Zee says on Jun 7, 2009, 10:49:

I am very happy to donate the chairs, but that is ALL I can do. We need some people`s help talking to airlines or if they know of someone that can take a chair FOR SURE to Bogota. When the two guys from PBH were trying to take them,( bless their hearts) the airline did NOT allowed them in the plane unless they would pay $100.00.

If I was going to Medellin believe you me......... I would play handicap or get a doctor`s certificate that I need a W CH! But I am Paisa of course ;)))))

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lampltr says on Jun 7, 2009, 11:01:

Now that's a great idea Lisa....
Board first, possibly placed in the first row...plenty of leg room and a possibly massage by the stewardess to get the blood circulating again, hmm, then off to Bogota.

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Lisa Zee says on Jun 7, 2009, 11:49:

Webmancos`s aunt took one, ( the one I sent with my friend the pilot from L A to Fla) and she is not handicapped.

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adela says on Jun 8, 2009, 16:13:

Thank you Lisa, Jonas, and Kat for your ideas and your great heart.

I realized there are more people working on this idea because it is from other thread: thanks to them also.

Is it perhaps convenient to have those chairs in Florida than in L.A...

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adela says on Jun 8, 2009, 16:16:

kat: Is the paypal account available? I think if the charge is for US 100 most of us could contribute.

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scooby_1781 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 8, 2009, 17:51:

Lisa Zee says on Jun 8, 2009, 20:27:

scooby: we need to take the chairs to Colombia, to transport them by plane or sea. there are 18 W Ch. waiting in S Florida to be taken to Colombia!!!!. How exactly can you help???

Necesitamos quien nos lleve las sillas a Colombia, entiende? gracias. LISA

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 9, 2009, 01:47:

adela says on Jun 10, 2009, 19:09:

ok, Kat. Let me know anyways. I told Lisa about W radio in Colombia: they used to have access to air transportation for social purposes like this one. They have translator for the main news program from 5:00 am to 1:00pm

link to W radio online
http://www.wradio.com.co/programa.aspx


Sooby: hard to translate, I'll try a little. Let's see if Desi could give us a hand

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Lisa Zee says on Jun 10, 2009, 22:57:

Adela, I sent you an e-mail.
No word from W. yet.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 11, 2009, 07:14:

Adela, I've been a little busy in the past few days, but of course, what can I do to help?

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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adela says on Jun 11, 2009, 13:11:

Lisa: It is common in Colombia that nobody attends your email. Also, there are thousands of emails to wradio.com. I think the best idea is having telephone access during the first hours in the morning. The other way is emaling El Tiempo, specially the redactor for Bogotá area.

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adela says on Jun 11, 2009, 13:15:

Desi: Scooby says if the notice is translated to English so many could understand here at PBH and perhaps, help in this case and others.

I sent a pm to Peter asking him to sticky this post in regard to find any one who bring the wheel chairs to the student, or any idea..

Could you translate the main part?

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srobledo says on Jun 11, 2009, 13:18:

well there are 2 companies, el tiempo and avianca (National airline for those that may not know), both owned by the same matrix (sp?) company if someone has a contact in either one it can ease the transport of the WC down to Bogota. I could try and do something with my local avianca office I'll get back as soon as I get a response.

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srobledo says on Jun 11, 2009, 13:25:

heres a simple translation:
"Bogota recycling father lifts his son on his shoulders from home to school

Photo: David Osorio / El Tiempo

The task is done. 12:30. 20 minutes have passed since they left the house. Juan Carlos always arrives on time.

The recycler Bogota Édgar Rico is one of the few of his profession with a last name of a millionaire, but, ironically, run by social inequality.

The Cross of a father with his son in piggyback

He must lift every day on his shoulders Juan Carlos, his 18 year old son and 50 kilos of weight, to whom a congenital defect called mielomeningocele prevents him to walk with ease.

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sloopskipper says on Jun 11, 2009, 17:45:

When it was first suggested, I thought the wheelchair campaign was a great idea, and made a small contribution. I complained a bit that there was no sort of acknowledgement (to this day), and I was accused of being petty by another member, as Peter was on his way to India where there is no internet access.

Never the less, I am a two-bit investor in Copa Airlines, and have met the president, his entire executive team, and the president of Aero República.

I emailed the two presidents, and the Copa Vice President for Investor Relations. I received a positive response from the VP, who agreed that this seemed a worthwhile effort, but would check with some others at Copa.

I gave him the www.poorbuthappy.com address, and never heard back from him. I can only assume that a reasonable person, seeing so much insanity here, cannot think of us as rational people.

However, I had hoped that I could relay some small success stories to that VP, but a recent visit to www.poorbuthappy.org revealed nothing.

I assume that a grand total of some $350 is sitting in an account created by Peter, unspent. I wish that he would report a worthwhile expenditure, or return the money.

I am not throwing stones, making accusations, or placing blame. I have had several associations with non-profits, and know that is a thankless task, with few rewards.

I would be interested in helping this poor father, but don’t want to think that a donation would simply sit in someone’s bank account, doing nothing.

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adela says on Jun 12, 2009, 16:12:

srboledo and sloopskitter: thank you! I think we have to agree in one plan to follow, but it is nice that both of you could try to do more for this father. Perhaps COPA would help us.
In my way, I sent a mail to Richard L.Richards, an attorney in Florida that could give us info:
http://www.nmb.gov/arbitrator-resumes/richards-richard-l_res.pdf

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adela says on Jun 12, 2009, 16:12:

Please, wrote him all of you...perhaps the`re is a way easier...

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Lisa Zee says on Jun 12, 2009, 20:37:

johny I am so sorry, I do remember you writing to me now. I was dealing with another guy renting my apt with you same name, I just looked and yes you are right, my apologies. I do not post here "everyday"........... nor I check that yahoo mail. This is news to me about 6 chairs. Thank you Johny :). now Adela knows who to contact.

ADELA. No me dices el indicativo de la ciudar de W radio. Me voy de viaje en estos dias, no se cuando vuelvo. Chao.

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sloopskipper says on Jun 13, 2009, 06:12:

Does anyone know how many chairs have been delivered to Colombian patients, and how many could be available at IAH, LAX, MIA, EWR, JFK, or IAD? Johnny has 6 or 7 in Miami, are there more?

Has any airline carried them free as checked luggage, air-freight, or even in the cabin?

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sloopskipper says on Jun 13, 2009, 06:15:

Lisa Zee says on Jun 7, 2009, 10:49: flag

'I am very happy to donate the chairs, but that is ALL I can do. We need some people`s help talking to airlines or if they know of someone that can take a chair FOR SURE to Bogota. When the two guys from PBH were trying to take them,( bless their hearts) the airline did NOT allowed them in the plane unless they would pay $100.00.

If I was going to Medellin believe you me......... I would play handicap or get a doctor`s certificate that I need a W CH! But I am Paisa of course ;)))))'

Lisa,

Do you know which airline that was? Anybody know what other carriers charge?

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Lisa Zee says on Jun 13, 2009, 09:45:

You can ask Pedro and Johny20008.
I have one possible two here in my garage in Los Angeles. I am not far from LAX.

Jonas also knows how many have been sent. I only know of that one that I sent to Fla, and Web`s aunt took to Bogota, The other one is with Johny`s friendin Fla.
Just for the record I`ll be gone for the next 2 weeks.

Thanks slopskipper

"can only assume that a reasonable person, seeing so much insanity here, cannot think of us as rational people." THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This should be a new thread here!

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adela says on Jun 13, 2009, 11:33:

Lisa: El indicativo para Bogotá es 1. Pero a nivel nacional la W radio tiene un número de sólo tres (3) digitos que no permite que yo llame desde Cali con indicativo. Es como llamar al 911 en USA, no tienes que marcar otro numero más. No sé si el teléfono para Bogotá que aparece ahí pueda servirte.
Qué te parece si hacemos un chat todos la otra semana? Así podremos estar de acuerdo en qué hacer.

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adela says on Jun 13, 2009, 14:12:

I wonder if Peter has already internet access.

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Lisa Zee says on Jun 13, 2009, 15:02:

Adela, a mi no me funciono ese numero, de la W, me pasaban a mi provedor de cable. Te cuanto que me voy de paseo poray dos semanas este lunes. Cuando regrese hablamos. Chao Gracias

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adela says on Jun 13, 2009, 17:57:

Hablamos en lunes entonces. Las ideas de Johnny2008, sloopskipper and Kat pueden ser utilizadas para hacer algo exitoso y sencillo. Ya escribí a El Tiempo también para ver si nos ayudan.

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