Come see Piedad Cordoba speak tomorrow

Pappassito says on May 23, 2008, 06:09:

I don`t think I have enough eggs to bring with me to go to a rally & hear that Chavez-controlled communista piece of garbage!

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slguy says on May 23, 2008, 06:22:

is she gonna be wearing yet another of those tshirts that reveal all 6 belly rolls?

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Pappassito says on May 23, 2008, 06:26:

More rolls than a panaderia.

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gatogris says on May 23, 2008, 06:39:

Raise the level of your discourse, gentlemen. She is.

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slguy says on May 23, 2008, 06:43:

"Raise the level of your discourse, gentlemen. She is"

ok. she's butt ugly, too. (her face is above all that fat...)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Pappassito says on May 23, 2008, 06:46:

"Raise the level of your discourse, gentlemen. She is"


Ask any of your Colombian friends what they think of this slug. You might not want to mention that you`re a big fan of hers. Colombians with any sense,that is.

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robi666 says on May 23, 2008, 06:53:

It would be interesting to hear what she has to say.
Any online report?

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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gatogris says on May 23, 2008, 06:56:

Ah, but that's just my point. The function of outliers in a democracy is to galvinize and moblize public opinion, as Walter Lippman points out. In other words, the fact that some Colombians get a little worked up about her (is the mirror clear enough for you to see?) is precisely the point. Where would Uribe be without his gadfly? Verlaine without Rimbaud. Vive le difference!

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billyb says on May 23, 2008, 07:00:

Chavez has no problem with her folds, as long as he finds the right one.

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tasco66 says on May 23, 2008, 07:07:

Ooops the groupie got offended, somehow I knew that was coming

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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billyb says on May 23, 2008, 07:08:

I'd like to see her fat a$$ rotting in jail for treason.

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billyb says on May 23, 2008, 07:12:

jajaja, now that is rich, when we have the pot calling the kettle black. See, that is why I like you so much buggy, now I am going to work with a smile on my face, thanks.

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tasco66 says on May 23, 2008, 07:14:

“the personal insults of very low level against Piedad Cordoba show the true nature of some of you�

Buggy, nobody can equal you when it come to personal insults

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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gatogris says on May 23, 2008, 08:41:

Ahhhhhhhh. Sinking into the familar warm bath of finger-pointing and playground taunts. It must be with a sense of comforting relief, rather like a satisfying bowel movement, that the conversation turns back to the banal "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I" levels so much easier than actually mustering the effort to express any sort of reasoned opinion.

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Pappassito says on May 23, 2008, 08:46:

Reasoned opinion already given: She`s a Chavez puppet & utter trash; with regard to your bowel movement,it appears to be from an oral source & liquid in nature.

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gatogris says on May 23, 2008, 08:48:

Robi, I'm not sure there will be anything available online, but I might be able to provide a brief snyopsis if you are interested.

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romy says on May 23, 2008, 08:49:

what reason?
"She`s a Chavez puppet" is still to be proven by the judiciary
"& utter trash" your opinion, which matters little in the grand scheme of things

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huskie says on May 23, 2008, 09:44:

She would not have anything interesting to say.....just another "analfabeta" just like chavez. What a disgrace of a person she is!!!
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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durito says on May 23, 2008, 10:10:

How is it even safe for this woman to come into Colombia?

I wouldn't go hear her speak even if I wanted to.

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gatogris says on May 23, 2008, 10:15:

Well actually her topics include:

The impact of urbanization (as I'm sure you already know, Colombia is possible the most urbanized of all Latin American countries, with 77% of its people living in cities and towns and more than 30 cities with over 100,000 people according to the 2005 census) on the more than 35% of the poulation aged 14 and under combined with troubling political indicators including political apathy and falling levels of job creation for the youth could cause a huge sector of the population to become increasingly disenfranchised. She intends to set forth a three-pronged plan to bring the youth into the politcal process and include them in any humanitarian accord.

Also, despite constant rosy rhetoric to the contrary, she and her advisors will point out that underlying spending pressures will widen the public-sector deficit in 2008-09, Colombian GDP growth will slow following a cycle of monetary tightening and the impact of a forecast US recession, from 7.5% in 2007 to 5% in 2008 (around potential) and 4.5% in 2009. Following the recent revision to the global forecast for oil prices, the current-account deficit is now forecast to remain below 4% of GDP in 2008-09. Some prognosticators forsee a seizure in capital markets, and the possibility that Colombia will be unable to meet its external financing needs. Furthermore, the Central Bank kept its intervention rate unchanged, as interest rates appear to have peaked at 9.75%, creating difficulties among the struggling middle class to raise their standard of living. Again, she plans to offer some budgetary suggestions to ease the impact of this forecast on her core constiuency, lower and middle-class Colombians.

But your right, its better to make fat jokes than try to think about this stuff. It makes my pea brain hurt.

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romy says on May 23, 2008, 10:20:

gatogris- there's no reasoning with some of the people here. Their heads can only handle Uribe=Good and Opposition=Evil

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cali373 says on May 23, 2008, 10:34:

Does anyone here actually knwo anything other about Piedad Córdoba other than that Uribe sent her as an envoy to Venezuela?

that was rehtorical because the answer is clearly "no".

Smile if you are a thinker!

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tasco66 says on May 23, 2008, 10:44:

I see some of my posts got deleted.
How come Mr. Flag I mean Buggy is silent on this one?

Tasco66, I have edited your comment and deleted the difamatory contents. (Cheers, Desi)

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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Alma del Norte says on May 23, 2008, 10:56:

Gato. You should post more often.

La vida es una rutina

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gatogris says on May 23, 2008, 11:25:

Thanks you.

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tasco66 says on May 23, 2008, 11:58:

Desi, sorry I didn’t know that pointing out Buggy flagging my posts and you deleting them was defamatory.

PBH is really turning into a Stalinist run board

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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gatogris says on May 23, 2008, 12:03:

Boy, Piedad really seems to bring it out in people, doesn't she. Whaddya suppose it is? The turban? Latent misogeny? Some percieved slight to nationalist pride? Her unrepentant refusal to be bowed?

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slguy says on May 23, 2008, 12:04:

fat or not,ugly or not - ANY colombian politician with their nose that far up el payaso's butt is worthy of scorn. add to that that she's ugly enough to make a train take a dirt road, and well...who give's a rat's ass what she thinks?

i personally would rather listen to an aguila girl recite the koran. i'd have a better chance of learnng something useful.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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hongo_joe says on May 23, 2008, 12:07:

Interesting topics. I'd go but I don't think I could get by those fighting beavers.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 12:16:

Tasco66, the comment you made that I'm in cahoots with buggy IS defamatory. Don't try to make it look like you said something else.

Slguy, what does her being fat, old and ugly have to do with ANYTHING? If that was the case, 90% of the parlamentarians in any given country would be automatically disqualified.

Yes, Piedad Cordoba seems to bring out the very worst in many people. I don't appreciate her flamboyant style but then again. Uribe is just as flamboyant and so is Chavez.

All you people who are calling her all kind of names, I ask you to post THREE CENTRAL POINTS of her agenda as a parlamentarian, outside FARC and Venezuela involvement. Just to show that you guys know what you are talking about.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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tasco66 says on May 23, 2008, 12:31:

Desi you sure have your way of seeing things. Here is another one of those cases for which I am still waiting for an answer:

“Tasco66, this board has no rules against posting political comments from either left or right. Buggy's views are just as much (or little) appreciated as yours." Desideria, where did I make contrary claims to your statement?

Anyway, I am not going to argue anymore with someone that can alter or delete my posts at will. As I said before, I am for free speech and I have never flagged any posts or asked for them to be removed, no matter how much I disagreed with them.

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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slguy says on May 23, 2008, 12:35:

outside of her overt support of FARC and chavez, who cares, des? they are enemies of the government i imagine she swore to protect/defend.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 12:49:

Yes, tasco66, you did. You said (something like this) "this is not a discussion forum for leftist ideas/communists/whatever". That's where I reacted. People here are allowed to have every possible spectrum of political beliefs. We do not censure people because they may have marxist ideas, as little as we censure people for having Christian, Buddhist, neoliberal, chavist, uribist younameit ideas.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 12:50:

That's exactly my point, slguy. You can't and you don't care.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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tasco66 says on May 23, 2008, 12:59:

Desi you are wrong. This is what I said:

"Cassini, this is not a Communist message board where you receive the usual accolades after posting your latest Chavista propaganda. Get used to it!"

I rest my case.

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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tasco66 says on May 23, 2008, 13:03:

Desi, since you are making a defamatory remark about my posts, I have just joined the flagging club by flagging your post

You can criticize me all you want, alter and delete my posts, but not misquote me.

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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gatogris says on May 23, 2008, 13:06:

According to minutes #2000179, February 28, 2008, session 132 of the Colombian Congress, Piedad Cordoba said "las FARC degraden a sí mismos con sus propias prácticas despreciables" and voiced support in debate for a (admittedly half-cocked) proposal to have a petitition signed by at least 51% of Colombians asking the FARC to dispand.

Remember William Jaramillo Gómez, her old mentor from her lawyer days back in Medillin, is no friend to the FARC.

Things are not always what they seem.

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billyb says on May 23, 2008, 13:28:

"Slguy, what does her being fat, old and ugly have to do with ANYTHING? If that was the case, 90% of the parlamentarians in any given country would be automatically disqualified."

Desi, you are always making disparaging remarks about Mr. Uribe's height and other physical attributes (or lack thereoff), how is that any different than this, except for the hypocracy factor? You also disparage that radio commentetotr Magely, or something like that, using his lack of distinguished looks to denigrate what he says, and don't deny it, because i have some time to kill and I will look for them jejeje.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 13:35:

BillyB I like short people. The remarks on Uribe's lack of height are just terms of endearment. He does, however, seem to have the Napoleon complex because of his short stature: he needs to get get his point across by getting authoritarian and deliberately attacking his opponents and critics in a way not worthy of a great leader.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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huskie says on May 23, 2008, 14:32:

I never even heard of this woman until she got involved with negociations in hostage releasement, and betrayed Colombia. So all I know NOW is what she has done.....so there I am glad I know nothing about her, neither I care too!!!!! I hope she gets egged and booed and M'off= a shortened version of I am leaving ...
I can't be arsed with your fuc..g bull...t any more you half witted slag of an excuse to be called human. moff
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 14:36:

Who's Mr. Magelly? Is that Mr. CorteDeTotuma?

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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dwmte7 says on May 23, 2008, 14:43:

YAWN........ does adolesence ever give way to maturity?

i go way back with dona piedad...in fact, she was sequestered from her dr/s office in poblado years ago when we still had our home in poblado.

i personally don't think she's a sell out to any quarter. if, as some suggest, she's in bed with chavez...i would suggest it's because he's made serious efforts to direct some of venezuela's national product towards the poor. tough to give much credit on that note, to bogota. and as for who's in bed with whom...it appears mr uribe has his mate in bush, inc. none of this is gold to me, on the contrary, simply fodder for the finger pointing souls with absolutely nothing better to do.

personally, were i in town, i'd probably enjoy her views. at least as much as what is bought and sold here. at least she doesn't mix her words and deny her posture and commitment.

a 'nay-sayer' she is not; a positivist, she is. and has steadfastly been so for as long as i've known her....near 20 years now.

dwmte

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huskie says on May 23, 2008, 14:44:

What are you talking about Des? Mr Maguelly/Corte de Totuma, HAHAHA that's funny.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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billyb says on May 23, 2008, 14:51:

"Who's Mr. Magelly? Is that Mr. CorteDeTotuma?"

jejeje, yup that is the one. Can't remember his exact name though.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 14:52:

Mr. Maguelly? I think that's what BillyB calls Jaime Baylly or whatever his name is, the dude with bangs all over his face.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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billyb says on May 23, 2008, 15:10:

Baylly, see, it sounds just like magelly, no?

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papiChulo says on May 23, 2008, 15:27:

desi... you keep those neo-cons in line, good job...lol

your comment and Uribe's manner I have noticed as well... he is always trying to give himself height (does that make sense?) when he speaks. As for the man I am indiferent, as I am too all politicans.

you'll never go before your time

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romy says on May 23, 2008, 15:43:

"The remarks on Uribe's lack of height are just terms of endearment."
Funniest thing I've read today... so he's a cute little guy then

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angelitabogota says on May 23, 2008, 15:52:

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papiChulo says on May 23, 2008, 15:56:

I don't know but Piedad is starting to look pretty hot in that foto... I better not have another joint... :)

you'll never go before your time

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 17:41:

oiga buggy why don't you have a rest... can you talk about something else

engage brain before opening mouth

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angelitabogota says on May 23, 2008, 17:44:

"Angelitabogota, sure you are alone to smile with your photo. Pobrecita". What do you mean buggy?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 17:55:

ok buggy you have to stopped all this nonsense if you don't agree with rest of us so be it... but just because we don't' agree with you doesn't mean you have to call us all the names under tree,

and i am sorry you are this close from me to start flagging all your post.. who care what you say

engage brain before opening mouth

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slguy says on May 23, 2008, 18:07:

i beat you to it. ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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angelitabogota says on May 23, 2008, 18:41:

buggy What is your personal problem with billyb, tasco66 and Mitch? they all write intelligent posts in this forum...

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romy says on May 23, 2008, 18:49:

"they all write intelligent posts in this forum"
I think this just became the funniest thing I've read today. Funnier than the Uribe crack desideria pulled.

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angelitabogota says on May 23, 2008, 19:03:

Oh, I forgot to mention romy also writes intelligent posts here.

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romy says on May 23, 2008, 19:13:

oh it wasn't a joke... yeah I disagree with that ("they all write intelligent posts in this forum") statement then.

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billyb says on May 23, 2008, 23:24:

"Oh, I forgot to mention romy also writes intelligent posts here.'

jajaaj, romy, don't you think this is in the running as one of the funniest things you've read today?

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billyb says on May 23, 2008, 23:39:

Angelita, don't let it bother you. It is well known that the bugster and romy hate uribe so much that they have taken sides with the FARC, correa and chavez against Colombia. Just sit back and enjoy their posts for the comedy they provide.

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romy says on May 23, 2008, 23:46:

ok billyb, I have never sided with FARC and when I have came in defense of Chavez or Correa it's been because of unjust commentary... now that I think of it I have been critical of both FARC and Chavez in several posts... thanks for the baseless noise billyb, though your cheerleading is more appreciated, regardless it's been a slow night around here with so much rain so thanks for giving me something to write about.

"don't you think this is in the running as one of the funniest things you've read today?"
nah, maybe if she had meant it... but that was just bitter commentary that didn't address my point.

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billyb says on May 24, 2008, 00:01:

Romy, you are obviously an intelligent person with some good points, although a bit too angry for such a young man, but that is none of our business. Where I have a problem with you is that you have let your antagonism gainst uribe, (which believe it or not, i have no problem with), led you to take the side of coorea and chavez against colombia. regardless of what you feel about uribe, make no mistake that he has the best interests (you might disagree with his methods) of colombiaat heart , where correa (although just a harmless lackey of chavez) and chavez don't. It is one thing disagreing between colombians, but it is another thing, taking the side of a foreign antagonistic leader against the democratically elected government of colombia. BTW, you need to let the cheerleading fantasies go, LOL

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romy says on May 24, 2008, 00:11:

"you have let your antagonism gainst uribe, (which believe it or not, i have no problem with), led you to take the side of coorea and chavez against colombia. regardless of what you feel about uribe, make no mistake that he has the best interests (you might disagree with his methods) of colombiaat heart , where correa (although just a harmless lackey of chavez) and chavez don't. It is one thing disagreing between colombians, but it is another thing, taking the side of a foreign antagonistic leader against the democratically elected government of colombia."
I just don't agree, maybe I'm wrong and the way I write/post has been misinterpreted. I don't believe I have taken any stance 'against' Colombia, unless if you equate Colombia with Uribe. I sided with Correa in that I didn't think an invasion of soveregnty was just and I sometimes (just sometimes because it's obnoxious on this board) defend Chavez when people come in insulting and lacking an argument. Please point to somewhere that I have sided 'against' Colombia, because if I have I wish to rectify myself as I consider myself Colombian above any of my other nationalities or allegiances.

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billyb says on May 24, 2008, 00:22:

ok, good enough for me.

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billyb says on May 24, 2008, 00:29:

actually, i was a bit surprised to see my name in mentioned in the same sentence as 'intelligent posts", buggy, but i was not surprised to see that your name was missing ;)

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dwmte7 says on May 24, 2008, 05:34:

woooooooo......mucha lucha...this is akin to the frays after soccer matches.

dwmte

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angelitabogota says on May 24, 2008, 08:00:

LMAO... You guys are so funny! I owe you an Aguila! ;)

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gatogris says on May 24, 2008, 08:11:

Not quite the donneybrook after a Chelsea match, more the squeeling, simpering and bickering of three 8-year-olds on a long drive in a car with no AC.

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dwmte7 says on May 24, 2008, 13:56:

amen.....

i'll take that beer now.

dwmte

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tasco66 says on May 25, 2008, 06:23:

“Desi, you are always making disparaging remarks about Mr. Uribe's height and other physical attributes (or lack thereoff), how is that any different than this, except for the hypocracy factor? You also disparage that radio commentetotr Magely, or something like that, using his lack of distinguished looks to denigrate what he says, and don't deny it, because i have some time to kill and I will look for them jejeje.�

Yep, you got that one right. I am glad I am not the only one seeing this here.

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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tasco66 says on May 25, 2008, 06:27:

Buggy said “Angelitabogota, sure you are alone to smile with your photo�

Nope, it made me smile too and would make most Colombians smile too. What happened to your humour Buggy?

Ooops forgot you don't have any

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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dwmte7 says on May 25, 2008, 07:39:

la vida siempre como son........somebody says they owe you a beer, but, where's it at?

dwmte

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tasco66 says on May 25, 2008, 11:58:

"Oh, I forgot to mention romy also writes intelligent posts here.'"

please don't make me laugh, he is just a Buggy using more diplomatic appearance

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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huskie says on May 25, 2008, 15:55:

Yeah Tasco66 is what I call bulltarded posts

bulltarded = an exclamation that may escape one's lips during an energetic response to another's outlandish statement. a combination of "bullshit" and "retarded", "Bulltarded" originated accidently but is sure to stand the test of time.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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