Colombia's Place in the World: The Economist Rankings

Hunter says on Aug 15, 2005, 04:52:

Inflation I thought inflation was about 4% - 4.5% at moment.

Hunter

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 05:16:

i look at all these numbers and all i see is that we (colombia) SUCK!!! the only thing we are number one at, pris, pris colombianos hate to be associated with.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 05:28:

we're not even number one in coffee? is there anything that we're number one at that "ALL" colombians would be proud of? do we at least make the best arepa in the planet or is that venezuela?

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NorwegianMale says on Aug 15, 2005, 05:52:

Who cares?!?! Who cares about those figures? I am from Norway and we probably lead most of those statistics. Does that make us more happy? Nope. Figures measuring "average happiness per citizen" would probably place Norway at 230th, scoring just a little bit better than Sudan and Burma.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:13:

Gringos are number one at everything because they will not accept coming in second to anyone. They refuse to be number 2 or 26 at anything, for them, the goal is always number one, period! We (Colombia) might be number one or close to it if we compared ourselves with other third world modefoques, Haiti, Argentina, , Ecuador, Spain, Peru, Brazil, Santo Domingo, Venezuela, etc.
USA is so powerful that all these European countries got together (euro) to compete against USA and they still can’t beat American’s in wealth. Gringos have no other rivals. Maybe if all the countries in the planet got together and competed against USA there might be a chance, but I don’t think that would work. There’s gotta be other modefoques in the universe richer than the gringos, maybe in the planet Uranus.

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:19:

The Figures Some of the figures might be dated. As Tinto said, Colombia has gone up to the 31st place in the world's largest economy ranking. I don't think we have bragging rights until we surpass the 28th spot for the largest economy (we are the 28th most populous nation so our economy should at least be on the same spot).

Elmo, the reason why we are #2 for coffee production is because Brazil is #1, keep in mind Brazil has like 9 times the land area and 6 or 7 times the population of Colombia. However, our coffee is still #1 in quality (how many people do you hear saying "Gimme a cup of Brazilian coffee??). You do have a point however, that Colombia doesn't score so well compared to the States or Europe, but it does quite well compared to other Latin countries. However, we do fare better than a lot of European countries (Italy, Russia) in terms of global competitiveness... hey that is something.

Hunter has a point though, the inflation has gone down since these rankings and the economy has grown.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:20:

tinto, that’s nice, but the idea of being number one in frog species is not the coolest thing to be. Just imagine wearing a button saying “kiss me I’m from Colombia and we got more frogs than anyone on this planet!�

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:23:

Elmo Not just frogs... Colombia is the most biodiverse country on earth... we have more plant and animal species per square kilometer than any other country on earth, including Brazil. Brazil has more species altogether because it is bigger. I think that is amazing, to be blessed to have such priviledged land below our feet. Now... do we know what to do with it? Are we going to take care of it? That is a different story!

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:24:

Colombia #1 for Frog Species ... maybe that is why so many of us Colombianas complain of having had to kiss too many frogs, ja ja ja!

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:25:

Wear it on Bastille Day and maybe you can get Juliette Binoche in your favorite position.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:27:

now that really sucks, why do we have to be nummber one with something so ugly like a frog, why not a tiger or panther something sexy and dangerous.

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:33:

We also have lots of butterflies... Those are pretty.

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NorwegianMale says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:34:

Statistics "There are lies, damned lies and statistics" - Winston Churcill

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:35:

I wonder... It says that Colombia is first in geniuses per capita. What does that mean? Does that mean we have a lot of geniuses walking around? Where did they get that information from?

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 06:41:

orchids? parrots? frogs? open coal pits? no thanks, i prefer wearing a t-shirt saying "number ONE in perico production and distribution, worldwide.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 07:19:

tinto, i know what you mean. new jersey claims to be "the garden state" have you been to new jersey?

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 07:41:

Patterson NJ Looks like anything but a garden.

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poco says on Aug 15, 2005, 07:43:

Colombia is NUMBER ONE
Live Chickens Per Capita.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

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caslug says on Aug 15, 2005, 07:56:

No 2 with the lowest divorce rate? I wonder if that is because Catholic church plays a role in dissuading divorces in COL.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 08:35:

number one in live chickens? now, that's something to be proud of, shit, i'll take number one in donkey and corroncho male sexual encounters.

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 08:45:

Number on in live chickens... How about dead chickens? ... I bet those get exported.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 15, 2005, 08:46:

i think we might be number one with old modefoques dating very young hot girls. check with caslug, he saw a lotta that in cali/medellin

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cali373 says on Aug 15, 2005, 09:09:

I would lean more towards the 42 place, than 31st. While I value to CIA's stats, I would favor the economist for having up to date economic info.

Where are we in the world with murder rates. I am sure we have gone down but we have always been up there in that category?

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poco says on Aug 15, 2005, 09:32:

In the eyes of the beholder Colombia might be number one using “targeted� statistical data “adjusted� for population, average income, land area etc.

Switzerland in ONE HUNDRED TIMES SMALLER than Colombia, yet the per-capita income is only 6 times higher offset by many basic commodity prices 10 times lower. Switzerland’s GDP growth is LESS THAN HALF that of Colombia and with an average age of 40 years vrs. COLOMBIA’s 27 ask yourself, would you rather have a Cold Swiss Sandwich or a Hot Latin Taco? How many Swiss have the same talent for sucking the fuzz off a Mango? JUST LET ME KNOW,,

Getting SCREWED in Colombia might be another example, depends on your viewpoint.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

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Neonovo says on Aug 15, 2005, 09:50:

No 2 with the lowest divorce rate... But how 'bout the widow widower rate? I read somewhere that 99% of murders, are committed by the spouse...

Paz
neonovo

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Aug 15, 2005, 10:02:

there might be some other reasons than the family harmony and bliss for the low divorce rate. First of all, it's a Roman Catholic country. There's no divorce from a Catholic marriage; it's a terminal condition. Civil marriages may be dissolved and in truth, the Catholic marriages can also be annulled, but that is a possibility for only for few.

The legislation has changed since the time I permanently lived in Colombia but at that time people didn't actually get legally married after separating from the first spouse; they got a fake wedding in Ecuador or Venezuela just to meet the requirements of the society.

Cheers,
Desi

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 10:07:

Divorce Rates.... I can't think of what the reason would be for colombia having such a low divorce rate. I am sure the catholic religion accounts for part of it, but what about other latin countries that are just as catholic?

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 10:10:

Cali373 The ranking that placed Colombia as #42 might very well be dated, quite possibly from 2003. I got the paper booklet that comes as a gift for The Economist subscribers, the one that goes for 2005. That is where I obtained all the info that I posted here!

Since it is print media, the info is more likely to be dated than info found on a webpage. I am going to check the economist's website....

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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ws244 says on Aug 15, 2005, 12:12:

divorce Colombia has a low divorce rate because the men still run the country and has nothing to do with religion. When Colombia becomes equality and politically correct the gringos will be saying the same of Colombian women as they say of American women, and will go to the next predominently male ruled country where women are still women.

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adrimm says on Aug 15, 2005, 12:16:

"next predominently male ruled country where women are still women"

Pardon me, "women are still women"??? Could expand on what you mean by that. When exactly do women stop being women (aside from sex-changes surgeries)?

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Blue says on Aug 15, 2005, 12:22:

Divorce.... There's no reason to divorce when infidelity is so widespread.

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Blue says on Aug 15, 2005, 12:27:

WS That's what they say after they're in the states a few years. Funny how quickly things change.

Blue

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ws244 says on Aug 15, 2005, 12:40:

women When women have equal or more rights then men in an equality and politically correct society, which is contrary to the teachings of the Bible and Koran, and which both say women are to follow behind the man. The war is being lost in the Mideast as they will not reduce by law the teachings of the Koran to meaninglessness as the western democracies (U.S.Canada,U.K.) did with the bible in order to satisfy political correctness. The Catholic church, the faith of most south americans does not believe in equality for women either otherwise there would be sanctioned women priests, etc. Man is still in charge of the catholic church as man is still in charge of colombia.

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Blue says on Aug 15, 2005, 12:45:

Women stop.. being women when they have hairy armpits.

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t25 says on Aug 15, 2005, 12:48:

GDP COLOMBICHE wrote -- "5) With a GDP of US $80.9 billion it is the 42nd biggest economy in the world (Singapore=41, Philippines=43, Czech Republic=45)"

I'm curious to know where Colombia ranks in terms of GDP *per capita*.

For example, I found it strange that Canada, with a much, much smaller GDP than say Brazil's, is a member of G8. Then I concluded that it was GDP per capita (Canada has a tiny population of 30mil, Brazil almost a quarter of a billion)

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adrimm says on Aug 15, 2005, 12:54:

And yet Catholicism is also the faith in countries like Italy, and there are some powerhouse women there. So - people can reconcile religion with secular politics.

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 13:09:

The GDP Figures I Quoted Are overall. Per capita would be a whole different story.

Women in Colombia -- the mayors of the 20 districts of Bogota are ALL women.. see one of my previous threads about this. Publicity stunt? Maybe, but the fact still is that the 20 districts of the Colombian capital have women as mayors. Most colombian women today are part of the workforce, hell there are even women in the guerrillas.
I guess these mayor ladies are no longer women, they have all had a sex change by now.

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ws244 says on Aug 15, 2005, 13:20:

women Yes while women have the right to vote and hold political positions in many other many countries, unlike the U.S. Canada, U.K. the men still have the final say in life whether a woman is a political office holder or not. At the end of the day the man is still the head of the family and the women respectfully know it. Something many men understand which is why they go to other countries looking for a respectful woman who not only preaches her religion, but actually practices it rather than being a hipprocrite. The same goes for women mayors in Colombia whom are still respectful to men as they know better than to be otherwise.

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michaelz says on Aug 15, 2005, 13:24:

women stop being women when they become femi-nazi bull dykes (an area in which the USA is certainly #1 per capita)

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Colombiche says on Aug 15, 2005, 13:30:

Boy Guys, I think you are in the wrong forum, I think you must have been looking for:

www.IslamicFundamentalistButHappy.com/GodHatesWomen

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ws244 says on Aug 15, 2005, 13:45:

women Well that statement was somewhat hippocritcal as they are only following the teachings of the Koran, and if one is a Christian, particularly a Catholic christian one should really follow the teachings of the Bible. There is no double standard as both the Koran and bible say the exactly the same thing, the woman is to follow the man. The pope would say the same, he does not hate women, but rather only follows the teachings of the Bible, and fortuneately enough he and the Catholic church are not yet overrun by equality laws and liberated women.

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Blue says on Aug 15, 2005, 14:07:

Next thing you know gringos will be going to the Middle East to find their soulmate. I personally draw the line at hairy legs.

Blue

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t25 says on Aug 15, 2005, 17:27:

draw their swords..... "gringos will be going to the Middle East to find their soulmate. I personally draw the line at hairy legs."

didn't hear about the american journalist killed for trying to marry an iraqi woman in secret?

in most muslim countries (except turkey and other secular nations) the marriage of muslim women and non-muslimmen is strictly forbidden. the reverse situation (muslim men and non-muslim women) is discouraged, but not forbidden.

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cali373 says on Aug 15, 2005, 19:10:

So Nobody has anything on the murder rates?

Smile if you are a thinker!

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Neonovo says on Aug 16, 2005, 11:53:

Murder rates are listed by Nationmaster.com... Murder rates. Sadly, but not unexpectedly, we're right on top.

1. Colombia 0.61 per 1000 people
2. South Africa 0.49 per 1000 people
3. Jamaica 0.32 per 1000 people
4. Venezuela 0.31 per 1000 people
5. Russia 0.20 per 1000 people
6. Mexico 0.13 per 1000 people
7. Estonia 0.10 per 1000 people
8. Latvia 0.10 per 1000 people
9. Lithuania 0.10 per 1000 people
10. Belarus 0.09 per 1000 people
11. Ukraine 0.09 per 1000 people
12. Papua New Guinea 0.08 per 1000 people
13. Kyrgyzstan 0.08 per 1000 people
14. Thailand 0.07 per 1000 people
15. Moldova 0.07 per 1000 people
16. Seychelles 0.07 per 1000 people
17. Zimbabwe 0.07 per 1000 people
18. Zambia 0.07 per 1000 people
19. Costa Rica 0.06 per 1000 people
20. Poland 0.05 per 1000 people
21. Georgia 0.05 per 1000 people
22. Uruguay 0.04 per 1000 people
23. Bulgaria 0.04 per 1000 people
24. United States 0.04 per 1000 people
25. Armenia 0.04 per 1000 people

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viewpoint says on Aug 16, 2005, 12:08:

DIVORCE RATE IN COLOMBIA The divorce rate in Colombia is low simply because the great majority of families simply can't afford to support two separate households so they stick it out together for the children. Sounds familar to me.

This is always the answer I receive when I have asked the question for the past six years. It is very difficult for four working people under one roof to support one household so how can these same number of people support two households.

Thank you COLOMBICHE for this informative tread.

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Colombiche says on Aug 16, 2005, 12:53:

Thankyou Viewpoint I was hoping the thread would provide some interesting if not useful info.

I think the reason you cite for the low divorce rates in Colombia sounds very logical -- it is very difficult for a household to get by with only one income provider, so many people might stay married for reasons of convenience or more like, survival.

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Cerealkiller says on Aug 16, 2005, 14:46:

Thats very nice, I saw in my international relations class that Colombia has merits when it comes to the infamous position of "most dangerous global threats" along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and North Korea...The more you know eh?

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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mzzmerized says on Aug 16, 2005, 17:48:

Hairy armpits/legs Gee Blue, maybe you should be targeting 10-year-olds, then there wouldn't be any of that disgusting female body hair that you find so repugnant. Or maybe a blow-up doll, yeah, that might be better, you could just spew your hatred of women on an inanimate object. I wonder what YOU look like...hmmmm...I am imagining a big hairy gut...

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elmodefoque says on Aug 18, 2005, 09:01:

This might be a number one for a Colombian. I just pulled a nose hair and is a whopping 1 ¼ inch or 3 cm long. It might just be a world record. Put that on the list of Colombia’s number one, along with most frogs and chickens. .

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cali373 says on Aug 18, 2005, 10:05:

this is very dissapointing. Colombia has a higher ranking for Murder rates than Russia and Mexico. And they have larger populations.

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OO7 says on Aug 18, 2005, 11:33:

Murder rate Cali373, the rate is # of murders per 1000 and has nothing to do with the size of the population. So while the rate is highest in Colombia, there may be other countries that have higher number of murders. It's a little tricky to understand!

Colombia also ranks #1 in kidnappings, but fortunately from what I hear, Mexico and other countries are catching up.

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protocol13 says on Aug 18, 2005, 12:59:

Murder rates The website nationmaster.com publishes interesting national comparative statistics on various matters. Unfortunately, much of the data is about five years old.

1. Colombia 0.61 per 1000 people
2. South Africa 0.49 per 1000 people
3. Jamaica 0.32 per 1000 people
4. Venezuela 0.31 per 1000 people.

Information taken from the UN 1998-2000 years data.

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Colombiche says on Aug 18, 2005, 13:26:

I was just about to say that... I don't know how reliable a source Nation Master is. Their information is usually dated. If you go to their forum, you will see a lot of controversy going on about their stats. I would look elsewhere for accurate results.

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protocol13 says on Aug 18, 2005, 13:28:

Neonovo: I did not see that you had previously referred to nationmaster.com data. Anyway, this data is outdated (five to seven years old).

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poco says on Aug 18, 2005, 14:50:

Lists, Lists, everywhere there are Lists The murder statistics high because they include death “Because�.

Many deaths are BECAUSE you are with another mans wife or girlfriend, cheating on business, illegal activities, narcotics, child molestation, or generally being a asshole, even then they ask you to leave.

There is no state death penalty but it does exist in the private sector. Colombia does NOT rank high on the lists I reviewed and in most cases is not included in the top 25.

For instance: Colombia is NOT included on the “ADULTS PROSECUTED list� most don’t make it that far.

Guess where the most Drug Offences Occur,, not where you would think.
Drugs are OFFENSIVE in the most amazing places

Go through the listing, Colombia does NOT even rank close on the list of Illicit drugs by country. Change your T-Shirt :

Say what you want about statistics but they do have a base. TRUE?? Up to the reader. Google was invented for this type of research.

Pay up or ???? Colombia NOT Listed.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 18, 2005, 14:58:

I believe that Viewpoint is absolutely right in his reasoning about the low divorce rate. As a widow with three children, there were very few men her age who could afford to marry my wife especially if they had previous families. There was no shortage of men willing to have her as a mistress however.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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OO7 says on Aug 19, 2005, 08:55:

Counterfeit Money Hey Elmo, you'll probably like this statistic. This morning I heard on the knews that Colombia produces the most and best conterfeit money in the world. They say that Colombia's counterfeit money is even better than the original...and I believe it. The only counterfeit money I've ever seen while living in the US for 24 years originated there. They even counterfeit coins.

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mikecolombia says on Aug 27, 2005, 09:10:

The only reason Colombia is no.2 in not getting divorces is because the catholic church doesn't allow divorces.

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