Colombia's Dirty Laundry Is Outsourced To Gringolandia

durito says on Jan 5, 2008, 17:02:

They extradite them to please the US gov't so the money keeps coming.

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juancegomez says on Jan 5, 2008, 17:23:

Because, by exporting drugs, they are actually affecting the United States in a negative manner and, implicitly, Colombian authorities can't stop them (nevermind that almost no other authorities can either, not even many of the guys who chop hands and heads off), or so the theory goes, since the U.S. government came up with the whole thing in the 1980's and we eventually agreed.

In other words, you asked for our laundry, not the other way around...

Then again, money wasn't actually coming in significant amounts (ignoring for now what current aid actually amounts to in the grand scheme of things, which will surprise those who still don't try doing the entire math) until relatively recently, so that's hardly THE reason. More like, in general, our government didn't and doesn't want to risk pissing off the U.S. per se, not because of aid in itself (it's a big trade partner and the most powerful nation on Earth at the moment), though sometimes such a thing would actually be a good move...

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vladimiro says on Jan 5, 2008, 19:30:

I don't think Colombia should get nationalistic about their criminals. Empty the prisons and send them all to the US as Castro did :)

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Medellin Traveler says on Jan 5, 2008, 20:50:

How many people would be left in Colombia? :o)

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Robert Jorge says on Jan 5, 2008, 23:35:

What kind of contribution to the thread is that Mr. 7 seconds?

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Atrevido says on Jan 6, 2008, 06:28:

And now it turns out the narcos prepare well in advance for their extraditions to the US. They WANT to be encarcelated there. They get out earlier, often keep most of their money and in many cases are allowed to stay in the US when they´re let out of jail. No more "better a grave in Colombia than jail in the US".

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Chelesupercono says on Jan 6, 2008, 08:37:

So the American taxpayer gets butt foked again by picking up the bill for these Colombian pricks that never committed a crime on American soil!!!! WTF.... it makes no sense.......

The extradition issue was the major reason why Pablo Escobar went to war with the corrupt Colombian Govt. and rightfully so......better a tomb in Colombia than a cell in the US.A.

Just another shining example of THE UNITED POLICE STATES of AMERICA

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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getting better says on Jan 6, 2008, 12:25:

It is not just Colombia which allows its citizens to face trail in the US for crimes allegedly commited in their home country. The UK has allowed three bankers (the Natwest 3) to be extradited to the US to be tried for an offence supposedly caried out in the UK. See:
http://www.friendsextradited.org/
To me this case is a complete denial of natural justice.

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juancegomez says on Jan 6, 2008, 14:46:

True, the concept itself is not that new, but in this specific case, the U.S. did pressure and/or lobby us in order to implement it.

Some countries, and even Colombia itself did for some time, do not allow the extradition of their nationals (EDIT: In fact, I seem to recall that one of the "parapoliticians" couldn't be extradited to Colombia from Germany because he held German citizenship and that nation doesn't allow such extraditions).

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Chelesupercono says on Jan 7, 2008, 15:16:

Interpol has nothing to do with Colombia sending it's criminals to the US to face charges. It is a question of money, lack of honor and balls to tell the Gringos to go f^ck themselves...

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jan 7, 2008, 15:27:

I think it's a great deal for Colombia and a shitty one for US taxpayers. Get rid of your dirtbags for free and the US picks up the tab.

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Sr Tertius says on Jan 7, 2008, 15:43:

Yet, for some odd reason, the US insists on twisting our legislator's arm every time extradition is call into question in Colombia.


Some inteesting links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh93Zr3j4Eg&feature=related
http://www.eltiempo.com/opinion/columnistas/otroscolumnistas/ARTICULO-...

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Sr Tertius says on Jan 7, 2008, 16:02:

If you want me to quit blaming the US for THIS problem, GIB, then tell your fucking ambassador to keep his trap shut. I'm being quite specific, I'm not blaming the US for "every god damned thing" so you can quit your whining.

And you can stick your 60K up you ass: When someone goes to jail in a foreign country for something they didn't do, without the right to be tried by his own judicial system, that pisses the shit off me.

I'm talking about the Consuegra family, not the guy in the video who I have no clue who he is, before you start ranting stupid shit as usual.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Sr Tertius says on Jan 7, 2008, 16:12:

I tried to avoid the ranting, but hey, there's so much one person can do.

Sure, GIB, whatever you say. Nevermind that the Consuegra never ever trafficked an ounce of coke. Those are just details, right?

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Sr Tertius says on Jan 7, 2008, 16:17:

It was a fucking clerical mistake, GIB. Read, read, before you rant.

What a waste of time.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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