Colombia’s Cornered President Raises the Stakes

cali373 says on Mar 5, 2008, 22:15:

I knew about this, TO bad Colombians dont read this type of real journalism.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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Robert Jorge says on Mar 5, 2008, 23:23:

First time ever - absolutely 100% agree with Rubito.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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DodgerDogs says on Mar 6, 2008, 01:48:

Raul Reyes, is burning hell as I write this . And that is the truth !!!!!!

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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jorgegdiaz says on Mar 6, 2008, 06:14:

¿Cassini ?

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 6, 2008, 08:42:

The first part of the article seemed somewhat interesting. It definitely made some valid points about Uribe's suspected ties to some unsavory folks.

However, upon continued reading, it became very clear that the author of the article is nothing more than a chavez/farc supporter and apologist. Uribe is no saint, but no one in Colombian politics is. reyes, chavez and farc are enemies of the Colombian people and need to be dealt with accordingly. This story is ridiculously one-sided. Some people claim that the Colombian media is completely biased, and to some extent it is true, but this article is even less objective. It is simply propaganda for a bunch of terrorists and their supporters.

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Ctg Bound says on Mar 6, 2008, 11:24:

I didn't bother to read the article, I just looked at the source, at the bottom of the page :

"He is a frequent contributor to NACLA and New Left Review."

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Gator says on Mar 6, 2008, 18:37:

I followed Ctg Bound's lead on this,

Gee, Rubitio, don't sugar coat it-give it to us straight. I agree, at last a Colombian president with an attitude.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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Colombiche says on Mar 6, 2008, 18:38:

"All these years Colombia has gotten such bad press for "allowing" the guerillas and the narcos to operate and not taking any decisive action against them. Now finally somebody DOES and all the old ladies of both sexes have their panties in a wad. Gimme a break!"

Rubito is seeing the light!!!!! :)

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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la campiña says on Mar 6, 2008, 19:08:

I havn't read the article but from what I can gleen ok yes the FARC, paras , ELN yes evil animals, but if you read extensively the paras are mercenary without political reason or any reason only financial gain, not excusing the others but Uribes birth child is the hidden evil here. If you realy analise him and his past especialy his recent past maybe he's not a knight in shining armour but a pawn in a bigger game beyond his control happy to be manouvered waiting for the big payout, check mate, yo no se !

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Man Tequila says on Mar 6, 2008, 19:08:

Rubito says things well, and with his customary tact.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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goin_south says on Mar 6, 2008, 21:42:

Am I changing?
Or... is it .. rubito?
La_Camp! I read ya.
Maybe ... The Times, they are a changin... in Colombia.
Who knows? which way?
damn.. I wish I knew.
You Twisted Lady...
C Ya Soon

Where do we go from here?

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manINred says on Mar 6, 2008, 21:43:

" they are also more likely to go after people without a good reason which the AUC NEVER does, brutal and horrible as they are..."

No I disagree with that particular statement (agree with the rest 100%). Actually I finished writing a long piece about the AUC recently, they have many a massacre to their name, more in fact this past decade than the FARC. Civilian massacres too, anyone suspected of being a FARC sympathizer. In fact, you'll fiind that the FARC has some rural legitimacy precisely because people did not trust the state to protect them from the murderous paras (and who can blame them). Vice versa of course, the AUC had legitimacy too...

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cali373 says on Mar 7, 2008, 22:36:

" they are also more likely to go after people without a good reason which the AUC NEVER does, brutal and horrible as they are..."

The Paras also paint political opponents as Guerilla sympathizers even though they are not. That's how they justify their killings sometimes.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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cali373 says on Mar 7, 2008, 22:43:

Read the article again, it is good journalism pointing out that Uribe is one of the center pieces of the para-politica , but definitely one sided. Non subjective journalism is hard to come by these days, the writer must have been trained in the U.S. :)

These events are not that bad for president Uribe. It keeps the para-politica out of the mainstream. Good news for Uribe!

Smile if you are a thinker!

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billyb says on Mar 7, 2008, 23:25:

damn rubi, i might have to give you more than six years, jejeje.

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billyb says on Mar 8, 2008, 08:24:

jajaja, we'll see, but your stock is rising in the survival futures markets.

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podborski says on Mar 8, 2008, 10:28:

we need a whole section just devoted to tracking our bets.

I have a bunch going on but of course don't remember them very well.

I imagine I'll be reminded on the losing ones but not ones I win : )

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billyb says on Mar 8, 2008, 12:40:

we could post them up like in Vegas so others can get in on them.

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goin_south says on Mar 8, 2008, 12:57:

"of course don't remember them very well."

Pod,... what about the one last night, reading: "I'll bet the Hotel on.....'' ?

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Mar 8, 2008, 13:00:

billy, please no 'hand-me-down' clothes for his funeral.

Where do we go from here?

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billyb says on Mar 8, 2008, 13:06:

what, you think I need a handout? wrong thread?

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