Colombian passport

SlmieBall says on May 26, 2004, 13:50:

Colombia's Political Constitution Good Sir:

Once Colombian Citizenship is aquired by birth, it sticks like glue and cannot be renounced or waived. Both of your parents are Colombian, and therefore you are as Colombian as Pablo Escobar himself (I just love anyone who poisons the United States with drugs or anything else nasty, drug lords included!! ¡¡¡¡Muerte a los Estados Unidos!!!!).

The Colombian Embassy in Washington, D.C., U.S.A., would be a good place to start. After that, you may want to try the Ministry of Exterior Relations in Santa Fe de Bogotá. YOu will need to prove your parents' place of birth and all of that good shit, but you should have a pretty brown Pasaporte Colombiano, Cédula, and Military Card to go with it in not toomuch time at all.

CHAO!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 26, 2004, 13:52:

start with the notary Get a registro civil de nacimiento from the notary where your birth was registered. Were your parents already naturalized at the moment of your birth? If either one of them was still a Colombian citizen at that time you shouldn't have much trouble getting your Colombian cedula and a passport.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Gator says on May 26, 2004, 14:45:

Slimeball, Wrong! Slimeball says: "Once Colombian Citizenship is aquired by birth, it sticks like glue and cannot be renounced or waived. Both of your parents are Colombian, and therefore you are as Colombian as Pablo Escobar himself (I just love anyone who poisons the United States with drugs or anything else nasty, drug lords included!! ¡¡¡¡Muerte a los Estados Unidos!!!!)."

NOT TRUE. All you have to do is go to a Colombian Consulate or the Embassy and make a formal renouncement of Colombian citizenship. Here is one part from a US Federal Court Case reference a job involving a security clearence:

"The Applicant was born in Colombia, and first came to the United States in 1988, as a minor. He obtained his permanent resident status, but returned to Colombia to finish his education. In February 1993, the Applicant immigrated to the United States, and has lived here since then. In 1996, he became a United States citizen. The Applicant was thus a dual citizen of Colombia and of the United States.

As a dual citizen from 1996 until May 11, 2001, the Applicant maintained his Colombian passport, mainly for the convenience of traveling to Colombia to visit relatives. He also voted by absentee ballot in a Colombian election in 1998.

Upon receiving the SOR and its attachments, the Applicant was appraised of the Money Memorandum, and the fact that maintaining his Colombian passport could have adverse security consequences. On May 11, 2001, the Applicant voluntarily and willingly renounced his Colombian citizenship. In order to renounce his Colombian citizenship, he was required to turn in his Colombian passport to the Colombian Consulate. Which he did.

VOLUNTARY: Voluntary renunciation of Colombian citizenship is permitted by law. Contact the Embassy for details and required paperwork.

Article 98 of the Colombian Constitiution: Citizenship is lost de facto when an individual has renounced it, and its exercise may be suspended by virtue of a legal decision in the cases determined by law.

Here is how you do it. Take to a consulate your document(s) that show another Nationality. Bring with you, if you have them, Colombian birt certificate, Colombian passport, cedula and, I have no idea why, four color photograph. Make the oath, sign the form and that is that. BTW, Colombian also allows an "Ally Ally In Free" if you want to reverse the process.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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dario says on May 26, 2004, 22:00:

SlmieBall Desideria and Gator Thank you for the comments.

S "Good Sir" is my dad, but thanks for the insight into anti-Americanism. I hope to be able to do *without* the Military Card.

D My parents left Colombia when my sister and I were 5 and 4 respectively. I travelled with a Colombian pass.

G I-ve no plans to renounce, but great Fed Court reference. I-ve contacted my parents to see if they can motivate family and/or friends to do the local leg work to drive up the birth certificate.

// Suisse

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SlmieBall says on May 28, 2004, 09:33:

Well that is something I did not know before. Thanks for the education.

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SlmieBall says on May 28, 2004, 09:34:

That Would Be Cool Get the rights but not the responsibilities. I like it. You have lived in the United States too long.

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dario says on May 29, 2004, 22:10:

SlmieBall, Gator, Desideria *or* anyone else that may help Again - thanks for the info you-ve given. It has helped me to get the process started. I now know that my "Certificado de Registro Civil" has a mistake regarding my name. It is spelled slightly differently in the first and second paragraphs.

I am about to send a fax to the "Notario", and would like a bit of help with the fax. In particular, I want to know how to open and close an official communique. Do I use, "Muy señor mío" and "les saluda muy atentamente"?

Thanks again

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 30, 2004, 01:51:

? sounds good I'd just close with "atentamente", but I haven't sent faxes to notaries ever...but it's a request for issuing a certificate you are writing about? It doesn't have to be all that formal, you are writing as a private person.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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