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hello all,
i need some help here, iam 24 american female dating a 24 colmbian male. we have been together for almost 2 years now. one of the things i love about him is he has a big heart and wears it on his sleeve a lot. that is one thing that has never changed. some things that have changed are, very jealous, doesnt like me going out with my "girl" friends to bars to have a drink (im not the type to get obliterated and not remember what happened the next morning) he says he trust me but not the guys. i know how to take care of myself and i know how to turn someone down as well.is it normal for colombian males to be overly jealous? we have been thinking about getting married come summer, some of the things that bother me or just seem different to me, is he doesnt want to join our banking accts together at all ever. he says we should always keep them separate.is this normal in colombian culture? am the type of person i will bend over backwards for you and go out of my way to make sure you are happy. im very caring and at the same time very sensitive. my boyfriend LOVES sex thats one thing we are not lacking...passion is there..but what about being romantic? im always trying to show him how much i love him with all the little things, notes, cards, his favorite chocolate, just whatever he needs to be happy,but i dont recieve the same showing at all...and i was wondering is that because the think sex is there way of showing they love you? im just trying to get a better idea of his culture and how they can be. im open to adjusting to different ways in a culture to a degree. but is it normal in hispanic relationships for the women to be treated as less than the men? sorry i know this is a long post..ANY advice or comments are much appreciated..thanks!

By carole_a_o on Mar 4, 2007, 06:21 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


elmodefoque says on Mar 4, 2007, 06:55:

Lady, you have definitely stumbled into the wrong “Colombian ’ site. My Colombiana friends here only have eyes for gringos. The second they hear British or gringo their ears perk up and cash registers ring out loud. I doubt very much if any of them had ever been with a fellow Colombian, therefore know absolutely nothing about them.
Soon you’ll be bombarded with very negative views of colombian men.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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elmodefoque says on Mar 4, 2007, 07:21:

One of the first accusations you’ll hear, “Colombian men are all unfaithful perros� NOT true!!
In all my (over a dozen ) very serious relationships, I never cheated. I was forced, nearly raped, by many girls into drunken one night stand, some even paid me so I would not notify the authorities, but NOT once did I ever go outta my way to cheat on any of my women.
Almost forgot, I'm 100% colombiano, heavy accent and all, but my corroncho/barranquillero accent is flawless.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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miamimike says on Mar 4, 2007, 07:41:

I would say Hasta La Vista Baby if I was with someone who complained when I went out to a Bar or Restaurant or is a Jealous person. You are in for a life of Heartbeat as this is one inate trait of a person's personality you are NOT going to change. It will only get worse,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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larumberainglesa says on Mar 4, 2007, 08:17:

Hear hear Don Gringo My husband is Colombian (I am British)and I have made millions of excuses for the cultural differences things. Now I know it's just him. We have little in common at the end of the day, he isn't a family man, will never have a joint bank account and prefers going out down the pub to going out with me. We haven't been out together for 6 months now. That's just his personality - could be Chinese, Swiss whatever. He's a selfish bastard and now the sex is not enough to save us, I'm afraid. Wish I had listened to me head and not my loins.....Sorry, turned into a rant but suppose the message is to try to look at things objectively before it all goes too far.

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manINred says on Mar 4, 2007, 08:27:

carole_a_o People are people, they learn through mistakes and successes. You have to teach him about your needs, he won't necessarily see them straight away. I have learned this through my experience with women, EVERY person is different, regardless of whether they are Colombian/British/African/Malay. If he loves you, then it won't be a problem, he'll learn.

I've hurt people I love before through ignorance, learned, made better, and improved upon what we have had. With every person you are with it will be the same, just remember that, this Colombian man is no different.

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elmodefoque says on Mar 4, 2007, 08:35:

gee wiz, colombianas don't want us, now gringas don't want us either, what the fok are we suppose to do? slice our nuts off and bleed to death?
6 months is a long fokin time with out sex, I can't go pass 6 hours. Righ now i'm waiting for my ex to pick me, she's taking me to her place for the rest of the day.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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southern151 says on Mar 4, 2007, 09:14:

This is not cultural... As several posters have already mentioned. This is just a jealous person and the controlling part will magnify when you say, "I do." I am certain of that. I know plenty of N American men that act the same way. As for the sex...He's 24! I'm only 27 and if there's a woman in my bed, we'll be having sex! That's called male hormones.

Many guys don't do the whole "romantic" thing. Most guys damn sure don't do it after 2 years(Note: I said MOST...That doesn't mean all!) of being together, especially if they are trying to cut you away from your friends. BTW, that is what he is doing with the whole, "I don't want you out with your friends" deal.

Joint checking account?...I wouldn't do it either. Even once I was married, I probably still wouldn't do it. That is a money issue and should NEVER get in the way of "love". Oh, it's about trust, right? Trust him to never hit you or cheat on you or lie about where he has been. That is trust.

You are not the first person to experience these types of things. I did with my exfiance. You are one of many that will likely be married even though your gut, family and friends say not to. Break that cycle if you are not sure. If nothing else, push the wedding back one more year. That is what I did and am still single nearly 5 years later. I am not complaining! LOL

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jaramillo says on Mar 4, 2007, 09:44:

Dear Carole Sounds like you are looking for a romantic man. The problem is that the only romantic colombian men are gay. When a colombian straight male acts romantic, there's only one reason. Men are dogs.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Mar 4, 2007, 09:59:

LOL I hate to admit it but jaramillo is pretty right on the money with that one.
Colombian men are the least romantic men I've ever met. It's more like "two spoons in the soup and grab that chicken leg". Once you get past that rather un-diplomatic approach to love and relatioship they are pretty decent fellows...at least some of them. I mean really, the best of them are just great: funny, sensitive, masculine, smart, considerate, sweet, good talkers, great dancers and if you really luck out and find one that's also honest, hard-working and faithful you've got yourself a keeper.

Cheers,
Desi
(who married one of the best, half a lifetime ago)

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang van Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kalder says on Mar 4, 2007, 10:12:

I'm not too sure that many men, from whatever culture, are particularly romantic in the 'moonlight and roses' sense.
As for that, I'm about as romantic as a brick.

And I don't think it matters all that much. What does matter is what you allude to above: 'i will bend over backwards for you and go out of my way to make sure you are happy'. Being there for someone; listening to them; supporting them...that's what I think 'love' should be about. And if you're not getting that, then perhaps you should follow your instinct and make some hard decisions.

The good news is you're only 24 and you've got a whole lifetime ahead of you to find Mr. Right- be he Colombian or gringo.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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utopiacowboy says on Mar 4, 2007, 10:19:

Romance to me is doing it missionary or cowgirl instead of doggie style. We're hound dogs, honey, and if we see a shapely trasero bent over looking for something in the refrigerator, we want to mount that butt like a bull in the pasture. Arf! Arf!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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elmodefoque says on Mar 4, 2007, 10:21:

"romantic as a brick" jijijijiijjij
i think buying her a plate of chicharron and a couple beers is as romantic as it gets for me. I show my romance in the bedroom. if i shove my tongue up her ass, I'M IN LOVE!!!!!!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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elmodefoque says on Mar 4, 2007, 10:23:

if i get turned on by the smell of her crap, i'm in love!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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morphus says on Mar 4, 2007, 10:24:

Theres no better way to prove your love than that...LOL

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utopiacowboy says on Mar 4, 2007, 11:00:

"im always trying to show him how much i love him with all the little things, notes, cards, his favorite chocolate, just whatever he needs to be happy..." Give him your chiquito. That's his favorite "chocolate" and it'll make him happier than any card he ever got.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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goin_south says on Mar 4, 2007, 11:29:

I think I've had my quota of laughter for the day; thanks, Carole, and all the rest.

Some say: All things are better in...Medellin! ....Oscar Lopez just says it's better.....LATE!!! (WHERE EVER YOU ARE)

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MacGringo says on Mar 4, 2007, 12:54:

I was having a shit day until I read this...hahahaha
Keep up the good work everyone.

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kalder says on Mar 4, 2007, 12:56:

larumberainglesa Sorry if it's not my place mentioning this, but I've noticed you've been having quite a stressful time over the past months. You seem like a fine person. I wish you well. Best of British!

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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mvefwd says on Mar 4, 2007, 19:53:

24 Carole... You are 24. He is 24. Neither of you know how to wipe your own ass yet. He's jealous because he is insecure. He is insecure because he doesnt have the confidence of a true man. He is still a boy. Dont get it twisted... you are not absolved of guilt either... You are still girl. You are more mature than he is, but you are far from a woman. Baby Girl, if you are still hanging with your girls, at bars, clubs and the like,then you are not ready yet. All you did was trade your Barbie Dolls in for live women. They are just toys for you to play with. Eventually, one day you will just not need to play with little girls toys any more...

The sex is great??? So what!!! It should be, you are both 24 years old. A relationship is much more than sex. What are you going to do if it works with this guy? Ten years from now, you will be looking back at all you didn't do. Your life will be filled with resentment and contempt. You are too young. And so is he. Live life... Travel... See the world. Learn different cultures. Learn different men, women, whatever... More importantly, learn yourself. Find out who you are. At 24, you are not ready & shouldn't even be thinking about one boyfriend. Like Kalder said... be he Colombian, Black, Irish, Chinese, Maori, or Klingon... When you are ready, you will know. Until then, move forward!!!

--- Viva Colombia

No matter where you go... You are who you are...

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larumberainglesa says on Mar 5, 2007, 05:10:

Kalder I'm impressed that you noticed my mood on a posters site!!! PBH-one of my outlets obviously.(Trying hard to remember exactly what I have said recently!!??). Yeah life is shit at the mo and seems to be getting worse.... Complete shut down in communication - (English or Spanish). We'll see how long we struggle on....

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elmodefoque says on Mar 5, 2007, 07:06:

Ladies, ladies please.Women Ladies, ladies please.
Women really need to sit and try to understand men if they want to keep him happy. No real guy wants to see little fokin cards and fokin chocolate.
What they really want is for you to greet them wearing a tiny sexy satin nighty and six inch heels, forcedly pull down their pants and start giving him oral, all with out saying a single word.
Once he’s ready, quickly go to the corner of the bed and get on all fours. Problem solved!!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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gringolondinense says on Mar 5, 2007, 07:23:

yep.... cards and chocolate are not things men appreciate.

A better way to cheer up your bloke would be to arrange a mud wrestling contest with your best female friend in the back garden.

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elmodefoque says on Mar 5, 2007, 07:41:

hey GL, that would work too!!! jijjjijij

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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cali373 says on Mar 5, 2007, 08:24:

LOL!!!
LOL!!!

Smile if you are a thinker!

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elmodefoque says on Mar 5, 2007, 09:29:

once a broad gave me flower, once a broad gave me flowers, i asked her "hey! what the fok am i suppose to do with these things, stick them up my ass?"

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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Robert Jorge says on Mar 5, 2007, 09:49:

Nope esanch36. The tongue in ass is known as a tossed salad. A dirty Sanchez is much worse! I'll leave that for somebody else to explain.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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elmodefoque says on Mar 5, 2007, 10:21:

you guys ever do a 'SNOW BALL" ?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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oldbongo says on Mar 5, 2007, 10:40:

hellmo.. we do it all the time, up at whistler.
you just make a tiny hole in one of those $3,000 pink
and white ski suits, and head for a remote powder bowl, fall down, and go at it....
unfortunately, we can't do that in cartgena next week,
got any suggestions?

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elmodefoque says on Mar 5, 2007, 11:19:

OB, a NYC "snowball" is a bit different. I would like to describe it but is is too gross for a public forum. I'll have to e mail you.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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Colombiano_81 says on Mar 5, 2007, 11:33:

hey elmo how about telling us some stories about your hot sweaty prepagos you claimed youw ere gonna get in Curramba. We want details old man! hey and becareful you dont fall into a fokin toilet daydreamin about them holidays...how is business anyways? any new poop stories for us?

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scotty says on Mar 5, 2007, 11:49:

he is jealous? I cant believe it, a Colombian guy is jealous, I dont believe it.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Mononoke28 says on Mar 6, 2007, 08:37:

My husband... ... is 100% Colombian. I'm Colombian but pretty much grew up in the US. Needless to say, we have a lot of things in common and a lot of things where we differ. I cannot tell you how many arguments we've had about the difference in opinions we have regarding one thing or another. Yes, Colombian men are very jealous, many of them (not all) want to be in charge of everything, they like to be the man of the house, they like to tell their wives/gfs what to do, how to do it and when to do it. And they have their own views on what a "decent" woman should do or how she should behave. Now here is the catch, you either let him or put him in his place. All I've done is say "honey, I respect your opinion but here is mine and that's the way it is. Take it or leave it". But then again, I'm a Colombian female who doesn't eat crap from anybody. Eye for an eye I guess you would say. =D

Diana

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Célle says on Mar 6, 2007, 21:50:

Colombian men... are adorable, funny, super sweet and I've heard they're good in bed but couldn't tell you for sure. All I can say is be yourself, be honest and tell him what you don't like in a calm way. Talk things through. If he's not romantic, well he's not. That's it, no more to it. Every man has his own way of thinking, get to know him. Get to know yourself. If he's not what you want, let him go. The world is not going to end, there's plenty fish in the sea. Want some good edvice...try going for a Russian man. Romanticos,fieles, trabajadores y muy frescos.

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kalder says on Mar 7, 2007, 00:39:

Russian men Miss, are you being ironic?

Ladies, I have travelled extensively in Russia, and let me tell you most assuredly that Russian men are neither romantic, nor loyal, nor hardworking, nor particularly cool. The ones you meet in bars and clubs are, more often than not, boozers, brawlers and womanisers.

I admit they're a handsome race. The women give Colombianas a serious run for their money. But the men can be barbarians. (You should watch them dance. All they can seem to manage is the 'Monster Mash').

So, before you all rush off to St. Petersburg, check out the figures for domestic violence in Russia on the WHO website.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Mar 7, 2007, 04:46:

kalder's right that's exactly the impression I have of Russian men and don't forget that we up here have been dealing with them for the longest time...

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang van Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Célle says on Mar 7, 2007, 12:18:

Ok ok ok .... Then I should consider myself a lucky gal. That russian guy I was with was romantic, sweet, hardworking, super smart, loyal, patient, cute and the list goes on. Oh plus the accent...I guess I shouldn't have let him go. He was one in a million.

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kalder says on Mar 8, 2007, 02:27:

Celle Yes, of course, I'll reign in the stereotyping. When you're invited into the Russian home, you can see a completely different kind of person. Including sound, decent family men.

But it all begs the question: If he was such a catch, why DID you let him go?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Célle says on Mar 8, 2007, 20:26:

Kalder...I did not love this guy but he sure was a great catch. Everything about him was good. Education, smart, romantic, sensitive, handsome, hard working but when you dont love you just cant pretend that you do.

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Azul says on Mar 8, 2007, 20:33:

I guess your not a Colombiana then.... ..(did I say that outloud?) LOL My bad, I know I shouldn't stereotype. I know that most Colombianas aren't only in love with you for the money....mine isn't, I know that because I'm broke.

las cosas caen por su propio peso

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Célle says on Mar 8, 2007, 20:50:

Hahaha....that's funny Azul my friends and family think I made a mistake. This guy not only is a genius but he really does love me. Plus very successful. He owns two institutes and is the top of line guy to look for when it comes to technology. He proposed but I said no. My grandma told me to give him a chance and with time I might fall in love with him. I couldn't do it. Imagine...being touched each night by someone you don't love...Ugh I just couldn't do it.

I have a colombiana friend. She married an american guy who is also an engineer. In fact, this russian guy is her husbands boss. They have nothing in common. She doesn't speak good english and he does not speak spanish. They're married and can't even communicate but they both got what they wanted. She got someone to support her and a green card. He got a nice looking woman who cooks and cleans. So they're both happy.

However, love does matter don't you think?

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Azul says on Mar 8, 2007, 21:00:

It absolutely matters ...and I think you made the right choice. You either love someone or you don't. I don't think that a person can learn to love someone else, at least not REAL love. No matter how successful he is, and how much he could have provided to you, in the end what does it matter if you are not happy? I think that you are far better off with someone that you truly love, even if that means being with someone less successful.

As far as your friend goes, I hear that a lot. But that is not the life for me, and from the sounds of it, it's not the life for you either.

las cosas caen por su propio peso

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