Colombian Government Shaken By Lawmakers' Paramilitary Ties

juancegomez says on Nov 19, 2006, 11:31:

... Mr. Forero's articles on Colombia tend to be ab ti too editorializing, as usual, and this one is no different.

Whatever effect this will have or won't have on the government and on Uribe himself is still hard to fully gauge at this point in time. It's logical to assume that it will be "shaken", but more than that is up to debate. Especially given the proven existence of the so-called "Teflon effect".

Btw, Senator Araujo's comment continues to be taken at face value and out of context. Among the mentioned relatives are people such as progressive magistrate Araújo, whose record on the Constitutional Court shows him to be a highly improbable "ally" of paramilitarism (given that, for example, he opposed lenient terms for them, and is usually on the left side of the ideological spectrum). The taint he was speaking of, as he added in unquoted remarks, would appear be political, not criminal. At least initially.

That of course, doesn't say anything about what the Senator himself might or might not have to answer for, personally.

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cali373 says on Nov 20, 2006, 09:35:

SHAKEN? Two congressman only. Like there aren't more with ties to paramilitaries.

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juancegomez says on Nov 20, 2006, 10:19:

cali33 I completely agree with you on that.

Of course there are going to be more. And that's really not shocking either.

Most of them currently presenting themselves as part of Uribism, but not only in it.

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cowboysteve says on Nov 30, 2006, 01:12:

well paramilitary not that bad Uribe isn't all that good of a president i must amit, but the only way we're going to clean-up this mess is all out war on the drug cartel, and the guerrillas, hell they don't want peace, the cartel are't going to quit, when they are makeing billions, its joke, give war a chance first Uribe must declare marshal law,then he must get the foxes out of the chicken house and that would be to arrest all the congressmens law makers, anybody eles that has any thing to do with drugs and corrutions, next i would do audit of all the rich bastard. then you start with the guerrillas, turn the paramilitary lose with what army you have left, you must, enough is enough, it time to take action. hell i will be citizen in couple months maybe i will run for president, colombia has the nices people in the world love them very much, they deserve better, next i would bring back the death pendley. hank'em high anybody caught with drug traiffing, money laundrying, stealing robbing rape hang'em high. colombia take back your country.

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cowboysteve says on Nov 30, 2006, 01:25:

cali373 hey before USA sent 4 billion you didn't hear much talk about the paramilitaries, they were keeping the country safe when the army wouldn't help or the police, you forgot about the kidnapping of the church congergation, in cali, yes they killed people that what there paid to do. i've been to the muso emerald mines i've taken six hr. bus ride to the mines no problems, thanks to the paras. hell you guys are pointing the finger at the wrong enemy. you'd better look at the drug cartel,and there hired killers, give me the 173rd airborne in one year i'd have the punks crying in there servasa.

YES IAM A GRINGO HAVE LIVE OFF AND ON IN COLOMBIA FOR EIGHT YEARS IAM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO BUS. SHIPING CARS FROM USA TO CALI THERE IS A BIG PROFIT MAR. ON USED SMALL 4X4 IF INTERESTED CONTACT. ME THANK YOU. STEVE

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cowboysteve says on Nov 30, 2006, 01:35:

cali373 hey before USA sent 4 billion you didn't hear much talk about the paramilitaries, they were keeping the country safe when the army wouldn't help or the police, you forgot about the kidnapping of the church congergation, in cali, yes they killed people that what there paid to do. i've been to the muso emerald mines i've taken six hr. bus ride to the mines no problems, thanks to the paras. hell you guys are pointing the finger at the wrong enemy. you'd better look at the drug cartel,and there hired killers, give me the 173rd airborne in one year i'd have the punks crying in there servasa.

YES IAM A GRINGO HAVE LIVE OFF AND ON IN COLOMBIA FOR EIGHT YEARS IAM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO BUS. SHIPING CARS FROM USA TO CALI THERE IS A BIG PROFIT MAR. ON USED SMALL 4X4 IF INTERESTED CONTACT. ME THANK YOU. STEVE

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cali373 says on Nov 30, 2006, 07:49:

cowboysteve You must be a cowboy from texas and i do not mean it in a bad way but people from the South or Southwest US seem to have a quick fix for all the worlds problems that involves open warfare and has never actually solved anything. Even the hardcore Neo-cons that post here know that Colombia's problems are very much a social issue and that the drug traffickers and Paramilitaries are one and the same. In fact one para commander that spoke out against drug trafficking from the Antioquia Medellin block ( I think he was called 40 something) was quickly taken out when hiding in Santa Marta. PERHAPS you did not hear about Paras in US news before plan Colombia and 4 billion dollars, colombians sure knew and so did I. Even back then the US state dept knew that the Colombian military and paras collaborate frequently. I think you need to do more homework on Colombia it is a life long research project.

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