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Colombian college vs. American college

Does anyone know how the colleges/ universities in the U.S. work with the college education/ degrees in Colombia. I am in the process of getting my fiance over here. He already has a degree and is currently studying for another degree. He wants to continue to go to school once he is here. Does anyone know what a university or college here would accept as far as credits, etc. Or would they make him start from the beginning as if he was just out of high school?? Thanks! :)

By skemper19 on Mar 3, 2006, 14:32 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


jccg says on Mar 3, 2006, 14:58:

As Colombia and USA are Haye members then, just by sealing "apostillando" the documents, the other country is requested to recognize its validity. check
https://snrportal.supernotariado.gov.co/portal/page?_pageid=113,767483&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL
or google for "apostilla" in colombian pages.
However, It is possible that you have to do something else.

This is just the true!!

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boomer says on Mar 4, 2006, 07:16:

It's pretty much a.............. one way street. The Universities in Colombia generally recognize the US educational credits as a plus, but the "Money Grabbing, Protectionist, Egotistical" US institions of higher learning will tell you there is No education outside of the USA. Even worse, you'll have to pay (ala, World Education Assn...etc) to be told how your foreign education doesn't meet US standards.

Just save the headache and start from scratch.

orgullo_de_colombia

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Diez Y Siete says on Mar 4, 2006, 07:58:

not necessarily true I have to friends that are "studying abroad" for a year in, one is in los andes and the other in javeriana they are both coming their last year of college so not only will they study abroad in the us that year, they will recieve their degrees from ODU(old dominion univ.) so i guess i would just beat the system if i was you, and i think it also depends on what he is getting his degrees in. sorry if im not of much help, but thats all i know about it

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miamimike says on Mar 4, 2006, 08:29:

From Comunidad on Course evauation.. Course Validation: Evidently there are different trains of thought on Validation/revalidation but the following Article in "Comunidad" is more or less what is followed here in Florida(unless your are from Cuba-as far as latin countries are concerned-aforementioned--courses transfer 1:1). BTW, a Colombian(from Bogota)friend who is a U of Miami Graduate(BSN-Nursing)and is originally from Bogota decided to return home(to bogota) from Miami(where she works at Jackson Memorial Hospital in ICU-last 11 years, so lots of experience)She assumed that it would be a relatively simple matter to show her Florida License, Demonstrate her Clinical Skills if need be, Colombian Passport, resume,Diploma from U of Miami with her transcripts and go to work within a few months or when a Position turned up. WOW-was she in for a Surprise-seems the equiv. to what would be our board of Nursing in Col. intended to put this RN back through Nursing school again, informing her how she would have to repeat her science courses,some nursing courses ect. NO courtesy of Validation so she could get credit for these courses. She related to me, "It's a wonder they didn't ask me to repeat Spanish 101, but they passed on this(she was a Spanish Teacher having graduated from Los Andes as a teacher(spanish) in the early 80s, guess they figured this + 40 years of speaking spanish sufficed. Speaks perfect English also-she seemed like a shoo-in, a Bi-lingual Nurse who was willing to work for maybe $15K in Bogota to be close to her aging parents. So, Unless the Foreign School's Curriculm has been evaluated by the US Credentialing organizations they then should have to perform this step here to insure Parity of Course content. Many don't like it but for patient safty(consumer)its needed.

Comunidad------------

How to Revalidate Your Profession in the United States

Many immigrants come to the United States resigned to work in any job that is available to them, because they assume that the language barrier, tests, textbooks and license validation make for a difficult process. If he or she is truly dedicated, tenacious and willing to follow the correct steps, the road to revalidating a vocation or career becomes much easier.

The majority of technical, post-graduate and doctorate degrees require a license from the state where the person is seeking employment. Before doing that, the applicant must first validate the degrees obtained in his or her native country. It may be also necessary that he or she enroll in additional educational courses, pass technical exams and the TOEFL, among other procedures.

The state department or office whose branch relates to that particular profession is the party that grants the license. For example, the Department of Health regulates any health-related profession, teachers should direct their application to the Department of Education, and the Board of Professional Engineers supervise engineers.

The first step that an immigrant (who is a college graduate) should take is to have his or her academic credentials *******evaluated***********. An institution accredited by the National Association of Credential Evaluation Services (NACES : www.naces.org) should examine all titles and certifications in order to verify their validity.

English-language skills may be a requirement for some careers, such as medicine, law, odontology, engineering and accounting. Therefore, the majority of exams are written in English and the applicant must also pass the TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language -- www.toefl.org).

The procedures for each particular career differ in time, type of exam and fees. You should investigate the proper procedures for your line of work keeping in mind that your state may have a profession that does not require a license. For example, in Florida, journalists, PR professionals, computer technicians, graphic designers, retailers, trade experts, chefs, etc. do not need licenses.

An applicant can also decide on a secondary license related to his or her profession. For example, in odontology, the applicant can opt for a dental hygienist license, and in medicine, he or she can apply for a medical assistant's license. For psychology, he or she can decide to apply for a counselor license; in law, they can submit an application for a license as a paralegal, or a legal consultant with an emphasis on the laws of his or her native country, etc.

If you are determined to follow the complex but more satisfying route in order to work in your own profession, the following is a brief overview that explains the revalidation procedures for certain careers:

PROCEDURE FOR DOCTORS

Foreign doctors must submit academic credentials from their native country's school of medicine to the Education Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG). To obtain ECFMG certification, they will be required to satisfy a series of tests offered throughout the year. Soon after, he or she must complete a Residency Program. A year after they complete their residence program, they should take the (United States Medical Licensure Exam). Then they should complete the second year of the Residency Program, among other steps.

PROCEDURE FOR ODONTOLOGISTS

Dentists should first submit their credentials for evaluation to the Educational Credential Evaluators (ECE) agency. Later they should pass Part I and II of the National Board Dental Examination and present their results to the American Dental Association's Joint Commission on National Dental Examinations. Afterward, they should complete two years of supplementary education in Odontology at a US accredited university, among other steps.

PROCEDURE FOR LAWYERS

The foreign lawyer needs to attend Law School in the United States in order to obtain a diploma. He or she must also validate the titles and certification they achieved at their country of origin. After three years of study, he or she may be eligible to receive a Juris Doctor title. The applicant must present his or her request to the bar association in the state where he or she intends to practice, and undergo a background check. Once completed, he or she can begin practice, among other steps.

PROCEDURE FOR ACCOUNTANTS

Accountants must be admitted to an Accounting program at an accredited university and complete a minimum of 15 semester hours of post degree. Nine hours must correspond to accounting, and he or she should at least three semester hours on tax education. The university must also verify that the applicant has exemplary conduct. Additionally, the applicant must present his or her credentials before an agency accredited by the Board of Accountancy, posses a license from an unaccredited school (from his native country) and demonstrate that they have completed a pre-determined amount of semester hours in accounting and business. Lastly, the applicant will have to pass the Uniform CPA Examination in order to obtain his or her state license.

PROCEDURE FOR TEACHERS

A teacher must obtain an evaluation of his or her credentials. After that, they need to present it along with a certified copy of their diplomas (clearly showing the date of graduation) to the Department of Education's State Board for Educator Certification. They can go to any public notary or directly to the School Board office to notarize the original diploma. They should then submit the results of their evaluation, a certified copy of their diploma, and a request for certification along with the corresponding fee. After approval, they will be presented with a certificate and he or she will now be authorized to teach in the United States.

In South Miami, the Florida state approved agency is the Joseph Smiley Agency, they have many of Foreign Text books on hand and if they don't, they have access to them to evaluate your courses in a timely manner. This Official Re-evauation costs varies from $250-$500.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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skemper19 says on Mar 4, 2006, 10:59:

GOSH!! Thanks so much!!!!! That's a lot of info. to consume at once... I'm gonna print this one out and re-read tonight! LOL!!!! Thanks very much though! I will take all into consideration and figure out what works...... Another person told me to check with an admissions person at a local college/ university and see what they say... At least they would get me started in the right direction as what documents/credentials he will need to show in order to prove his education and, of course, the entrance tests that he will have to take to prove his skills and knowledge of basic functions.... This is a great help!!! Thanks to you all!

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