Colombian Chicas - Someone please explain!

utopiacowboy says on Nov 23, 2006, 07:32:

Another gringo wakes up and smells the coffee.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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suizo says on Nov 23, 2006, 07:34:

I am not... ...a Gringo, but in this case, it probably does not make a difference.

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kalder says on Nov 23, 2006, 07:53:

Strangers in the night If a young girl brazenly (or even coyly) passed me her phone number in a club, I'd assume a certain financial motive behind the offer. However, I have certainly known handsome, personable blokes getting plenty of no-strings sex from chicas in Colombian nightclubs. So, if you're an attractive kind of chap (as your post appears to indicate), then, why yes, these offers (or at least some of them) could be genuine invitations to...ahem...a cup of coffee and a slice of cake.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 23, 2006, 11:29:

"Another gringo wakes up and smells the coffee." Quote UC
One of those large coffees from Starbucks was not strong enough.

Yea..UC. How much more direct can this guy be. I'm kind of liking the new PBSH. The moderators worked so hard to keep girl talk off this site. They finally threw the towel in and now, it seems to be open season here.

Also this part:

"Hooking up with girls never was a problem"

Was that a freudian slip? ja ja

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morphus says on Nov 23, 2006, 13:02:

yeah "In some cases the girls made eye contact and then slipped me their phone numbers while going to the bathroom."

Lets face it, any girl that does that while she is with another guy is a puta and probably had more shlongs inside her than a urinal at a football stadium. Thats the problem with Colombia, the whores look like normal girls and gringos get fooled by it. They start getting big heads. Its common sense that if you see a young Colombian girl with an old Colombian man that she is a prepago. Actually postpago would be a better word. Most of these guys pay them after.

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suizo says on Nov 23, 2006, 13:15:

This is BS... ...if I wanted to start the "girltalk" as you name it, there would probably be other, more appropriate message boards. Just trying to understand what I have seen.

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 23, 2006, 13:28:

Se parece que entiendes lo que viste.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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suizo says on Nov 23, 2006, 13:42:

Oh hell, yes I understand... ...please accept my apologies for not being a so experienced Colombia traveler like many others here. Also, I note that we have experts here regarding "pre- and postpago". Guess they did some in-depth research ...ha ha ha.

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goin_south says on Nov 23, 2006, 15:09:

I note that we have experts here regarding "pre- and postpago". ("They've) looked at love from both sides, now."

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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morphus says on Nov 23, 2006, 15:38:

Sure "I note that we have experts here regarding "pre- and postpago"

Yeah, heres another tip with the high priced prepagos: you can roll up a bunch of mil peso bills under a viente mil peso bill and hand it to her while she is walking out the door. She won't realize that she has been "raped" until she counts the money...lol

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 23, 2006, 20:00:

Morphus I like your lines in this thread......lol....

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elchantajista says on Nov 24, 2006, 03:06:

suizo suizo is a swiss no? not a gringo seems some of the more fluent speakers need to brush up on their spanish and to answer the swiss question u r not their meal ticket, u maybe young and all that but they see young guapo colombiano all the time lol, u r probably here today gone tomorrow

anda de parranda en Bogota
"Vicente"

anda de parranda en Bogota "Vicente"

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rocinante says on Nov 24, 2006, 16:15:

Suizo Welcome to the forum - I will spell it out as objectively as possible:"I am not....a Gringo, but in this case, it probably does not make a difference."- suizoThe fact that you asking the question in your original post makes you a gringo by default... but you are right - it doesn't make a difference - you were just spotted easier.

Do you live in South America, or Mexico or Asia(Indio or Chino)? If not, you're a gringo in Colombia, sorry to break the news good fella.

I love posting this because this is a 100% the Colombian view. Although a lot of countries don't really care for the US, Colombians don't split hairs between Americans, Europeans, Australians or Canadians; even people born and living living in Puerto Rico are considered gringos.

"In some cases the girls made eye contact and then slipped me their phone numbers while going to the bathroom. What is this all about?" - suizoYou've got 3 choices all based on the following premise in the mind of the women in these bars: Because you are a gringo they know you have money; the fact that you can afford a plane ticket and a hotel and are in a tourist type bar (read "in a safe, upper scale neighborhood") means you can afford stuff.

Therefore the 3 answers:

1.) They want you as a new customer, moneybags
2.) They want a 'boyfriend' (with $, can be fat and ugly, little or no spoken spanish? not a problem) who will fall in love with them (she's hot, right?) and then send her $ and pay her 'not to work' in the bars as a puta in plain english - of course at some point you're back in whiteyville and she's barkin' it up with the old man and the next gringo - while you're sending $

or

3.) "I'm just friends with the 'old' guy, didn't want to hurt his feelings and secretly slipped you my number because you're muy caliente, let's go out"

Either way you're getting a hooker or a lying hooker. Approach the situation as such.

You've been to Colombia twice and now you're here posting about prostitutes? Why? Maybe you're not looking for a prostitute or trying to weed through the putas and find a good girl?

Honestly it's tough for a gringo to find a good hearted, non puta, non gold digging chica - there is a catch-22 comprised of two things: The good women don't hang out in the places where gringos hang out. AND not many of these good women, if you can find them, really want a non-colombian man. Simple as.

Enjoy the ho's and don't be shy - pick up the mangos chicks outside - before they have a date - and while you're inside remember two things:

"te gustaría ir a mi hotel?" -and- While she's going to the john, watch out for the newer better gringo who's only 21(her age) getting her number, old man.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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pedro says on Nov 24, 2006, 17:04:

Blonde hair? Do you have blonde hair and blue eyes, by any chance?

I find it quite easy to believe they would do it just for status and to show you off to their friends. Or else, they simply like the blonde hair types. It happens sometimes (often) in Latin America.

Sure, there are prepagos in Mangos though not every girl there is on the market.

que nota!

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goin_south says on Nov 25, 2006, 02:11:

Not....., I think otherwise: ""Honestly it's tough for a gringo to find a good hearted, non puta, non gold digging chica..... AND not many of these good women, if you can find them, really want a non-colombian man.""

I have to disagree, Rocinante. Not if that is what you are looking for.
Suizo, if that is the world you are looking for, then I imagine rocinante spelled it out quite clearly.
But, I really think that WHATEVER YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, you can probably find it, in Colombia.
There are plenty of gringos/and a few gringas on here who 'went' (in various forms and venues) looking for a genuine, sincere and solid relationship, and found it.
Not every (guy) on pbh goes to Colombia looking for how much pu**y they can get.
Although, (I think) likely just about any guy on pbh could go to Colombia and get all or more than he can handle (if that is what he wants.) And, from what little I have read on here, it appears a gringa can/could do the same in reverse.
Hell, I'll even stretch in favor of Los Colombianos, and say that a gringa can even find a real solid relationship with uno Colombiano; they also are not all fit into a mold,... as some here like to proclaim that you or I or they fit into one of two or three categories.

And, I think most of those 'goodhearted women' are looking for a good man, colombiano or otherwise.

Every person's desire/style/story is different. If you got a dream, then get your sh*t together, chase it, and make it come true.

Oh! Excuse me. Hypocrite that I am: When I go to Colombia, I do go with 'how much pu**y I can get', at the top of my mind. And, I always get more than my share. It just happens to be with one and the same illustrious Colombiana

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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esanch36 says on Nov 25, 2006, 08:07:

A GRINGO IS A PERSON FROM THE USA!!!! damn


esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

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ixent says on Nov 25, 2006, 08:11:

Also depends where you look.... ""Honestly it's tough for a gringo to find a good hearted, non puta, non gold digging chica..... AND not many of these good women, if you can find them, really want a non-colombian man.""

If you spend your time "looking" for girls in clubs, in any country, you are unlikely to find a "good woman".

Personally, I think it's a bad idea to actively look for someone anyway.

One can meet an amazing person in the place and time when least expected. The chances of bumping into a "good woman" (or "good man" for that matter) are likely to be higher.

If you're not actively looking, you'll notice straight away whether someone is a gold-digger or not.

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rocinante says on Nov 25, 2006, 09:17:

ensanch, your opinion is not the Colombian opinion - but everyone in every country is entitled to their own definition of "gringo".

Since this is a Colombian site and the original poster is talking about en experience in Colombia, I assumed we go by the Colombian definition, silly me.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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rocinante says on Nov 25, 2006, 09:37:

Back pedaling a bit here... Why leave out the whole quote?"
"The good women don't hang out in the places where gringos hang out. AND not many of these good women, if you can find them, really want a non-colombian man."

I was speaking in the context of this thread and was not clear. I was speaking about gringo tourists and the women in these clubs. See the entire thread up until my post.

I appologize and agree that I was misleading by not pointing out: "Gringo tourists hanginig out in Tourist hangouts recommended by taxi drivers and websites, are not going to find a good girl who is not a hooker or not a 'one night stand if you pay for her and her friends' type.

the women in these clubs that are not the two type above (now I'm talking about the good girls), probably can afford the night out, are with their friends, having fun; not hunting for gringo boyfriends who have to fly back to England on the 15th.

Put the shoe on the other foot. You're a girl in your home country at a club in the city. There is this guy hanging out: hot, rich, exotic looking Japanese model who barely speaks english. You find out through his broken english "me visit - I leewing wenday"; He's a tourist leaving in a few days.

Q:What are your plans then, girls?

A: OK if you are not a hooker or gold digger (none of the women are here, I presume) and didn't immediately think, 'Lets have fun he's cool', 'one night stand', 'let me show him off to my friends' etc... did you think, 'let me get to know this guy, maybe we'll fall in love and I'll leave everything here, move to Japan and take Japanese lessons and be part of that culture'.

This is what meant when I said "...if you can find them, [they don't] really want a non-colombian man"

Colombian women are practical and know you're a tourist who can't speak their language, you are not moving to Colombia any time soon, and the thought of moving to gringolandia is just not a popular one.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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goin_south says on Nov 25, 2006, 10:07:

ixent, I appreciate your perspective, but then there is also the 'Tony Robbins' (and many others) perspective of 'knowing exactly what it is you want, and finding it'; or as you would say likely, 'letting it appear'. But, there ain't no Colombian Geannies in my empty bottle of Aguardiente and so

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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rocinante says on Nov 25, 2006, 11:51:

Photo Journalism 'knowing exactly what it is you want, and finding it'

You got a week while you're there on vacation, alone or with a buddy, and a taxi driver guiding you. It's dark and you're wearing sunglasses. Good luck.

In that situation I'd head right to Mangos and get the hottest chics and snap pornographic photos back in the hotel and post them for all of us here at PBH.

Suizo, ignore everything in this thread, get the camera ready, go back to Colombia finish your research and report back accordingly.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 25, 2006, 12:31:

Rocinante, stop making sense. You're just going to confuse everyone.

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morphus says on Nov 25, 2006, 13:00:

Its very unusual for Colombianas to act desperate. Usually, you have to make the first move. Even in Places like La Dolce Vita where professional girls hang out, they expect you to make the first move. I've actually seen gringos get rejected by those lovely prepagos.

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 25, 2006, 15:06:

I have the best idea Let's just send him to my friend's Wiskeria in Bogota'. This way Suizo can, as they say, "cut to the chase" and will not have to wait for these ladies to be "slipping the phone numbers on the way to the bathroom." And then of course, there is the risk of one of those "Older Colombian men" slipping Suizo the knife, before he gets out the door.

Pay before, pay later, who cares. When the puta is compensated does not make the girl any less of a puta. Does it?

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billyb says on Nov 25, 2006, 15:55:

Pre-Pago, Post-Pago.... what about the Pago-As-You-Go? ;)

BillyB

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rocinante says on Nov 25, 2006, 15:58:

Goaaaaaaaal! "I've actually seen gringos get rejected by those lovely prepagos."-morphI confess, that was me. I made the mistake of flashing Morph's photo and saying, "Es mi mejor amigo." One woman chased me down the block.

"And then of course, there is the risk of one of those "Older Colombian men" slipping Suizo the knife, before he gets out the door."-Gomezman5A good deal of mafiosos in these pre pago joints - so I've read. There's an 'opinion' regarding the night Andrés Escobar (1994 Colombian National defender) was murdered outside of a Medellín night club. The facts are: That he was messing with a mafioso's woman in the bar. Also there was a fight in the bar in which Escobar was involved. The 'opinion' is that if Escobar just kept to his business and left the lady alone that he would have extended his life by another three weeks. OK bad joke at the end but the rest is true. Moral of the story - watch your back in these joints 'cause you never know who belongs to the chick.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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billyb says on Nov 25, 2006, 16:03:

Or rather, who the chick belongs to. BillyB

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rocinante says on Nov 25, 2006, 16:04:

Either way I don't want to find out

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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billyb says on Nov 25, 2006, 16:08:

Agreed BillyB

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 25, 2006, 16:10:

Careful Rocinante Agreeing with me can also be dangerous. You run the risk of being accused of being a co-conspirator in scare mongering. :)

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johnarizona says on Nov 27, 2006, 10:21:

some hookers good gals and some regular women are real low-lifes...don't always judge a book by it's cover

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bamapits3 says on Nov 28, 2006, 01:56:

Face it Bro, no matter what you say someone is going to hate on you in any BLOG you post on. All guys arent 40 plus years old like them.....The only reason why they are in colombia is because of the woman. Lets be realistic, if all these americans were as rich as they tell these girls they are then why would they want to live in another country. I have met the most millionairs in colombia then I have ever met anywhere in my life....lol....right.....You are a millionair who doesnt know how to dress or have any style, hint, if you have jeans on with your shirt tucked in with no belt...lol....you need to check that out......I am a 20 year old american who has been traveling to colombia for a while now and its not all about the money, I get plenty of girls and they know I am 20 years old....How is a 20 year old a millionair....he is not....just cause they get tired of having the old americans think they can come over there and try to have sex with all the 17-25 year old woman because they would have no chance in the states....lol....Get real or get lost...Speak your mind guys...I know someone has something to say....

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esanch36 says on Nov 28, 2006, 05:24:

Word up bam esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

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papamac says on Nov 28, 2006, 08:42:

money? you definately don't have to be a millionaire to travel to colombia...i'm going for the third time this year, in two weeks....i am definately not a millionaire...its $500 for a ticket for a direct flight from here to medellin....then once there...a couple hundred is fine...depends on how much (or how many) you want to do while there.

thanks for this thread...planning on going to mango's on dec. 9th..hope to get a couple numbers...hopefully find a pago-as-u-go like billyb mentioned!

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suizo says on Dec 4, 2006, 08:11:

Thanks ...to everyone who posted. Of course, I am as confused as before, but it sure was a hell of a fun reading your posts. And many of them truly interesting with thoughts to be considered. The only thing I know for sure is: I love the country and I'll be back in April 2007!

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RJQuilla says on Dec 4, 2006, 22:23:

Kalder I take it that your an Englander with the bloke,chap, and slice of cake remarks......LOL. I'm a dark skin chap and have been told I could possibly be offered a lot of cake in England????? Is that so?

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kalder says on Dec 5, 2006, 02:29:

RJQuilla You've heard correctly my friend: your dark complexion would certainly do you no harm here cakewise. No harm at all. You could eat your fill.
But, be advised, English 'cake' tends to be rather fatty, not particularly sweet and over-liberally laced with alcohol.
Stick to arepa.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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elmodefoque says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:03:

Hey suizo, las cachacas le encantan manes como tu, bien light como conejo blanco. Cuadro, vas a culiar en pila, te felicito!
Las verdaderas curramberas solo le gustan manes negritos que bailen bien pegaito paque le restregen bien la monda. en barranquilla no es tan facil levanta pelas, ahi te come el caiman.

Translation:
suizo, you’re gonna bone every single broad in medellin, congrats! Not so sure about nailing the average barranquillera.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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spinned1 says on Dec 9, 2006, 05:23:

They know who you are The heart is deceitfully wicked above all things. Who can know it? When will we learn? Men, a word to the wise. Stay away from relationships. Learn to be happy being single and childless. Society has changed and not for the better. Don't set yourself up for a few good years with the woman that supposedly loves you for a life of misery and ruin after the "good times" are long gone. Learn not to be co-dependant. The divorce rate in our westernized societies is at 50% and rising. Is it worth the risk? Many men have been financially devastated, brought to ruin, used, abused emotionally, physically, had their children that they loved taken away and falsely accused of domestic crimes against their wives/significant others and children. Read the (WAVA) Women Against Violence Act, signed into law by President Clinton and President Bush. You are an open target with this law marrying a foreign woman. 70% of all divorces are initiated and filed in family court by women in the U.S. *(Dept. of Justice 2005). The press does not report the fact that many men in western societies have committed suicide due divorce. Not because their wives left them, but what their wives left them with, nothing, but debt and the shirt on their backs living in a poor one bedroom apartment and paying $900 a month child support/alimony for the next 18 years. Will you be able to "hook up" with another beautiful woman with that kind of past, now that you are 10 years older than you were when you first got married, not being able to financially support your next "soul mate"? Why would she pick you when there are millions of men that do not have huge support obligations, children, and an ex-wife to deal with? When your future fiancee finally tells you the magic words, I.. love... you, don't beleive them. You are being set-up. Enjoy going out on dates, get snipped before you do, and come back to your lonely but free, single, beautiful, life. Save yourself while you still are able, because they know who you are.

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elchantajista says on Dec 10, 2006, 06:32:

sounds like u speak from exp hope it wasn;t to bad

anda de parranda en Bogota
"Vicente"

anda de parranda en Bogota "Vicente"

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smf says on Feb 2, 2007, 13:34:

my perspective on ninas id you go to colombia without spanish, as a tourist, chances are you will only see the a polarized view of the culture.
i see many references to and use of the word puta however the guys who have multiple sex partners remain unscathed by stigma or derogatory terms.

in reading spanish language newspapers it seems the prepaid stuff in medellin is relatively new, and it is not limited to poor girls. een middles class and above can be drawn in by MONEY. almost like the hunky good looking guy with an overweight unattractive wealthy woman in ANY country. maybe for love or maybe for money.


anyway, colombian culture is very different from many other cultures. women are naturally very open minded and sexual compared with say usa women.

i have been affiliated with a colombian medical center in the capacity of a physician. i am average looking, have my hair aND AM NOT OVERWIGHT. women considerably younger than me wanted to date and often were from wealthy families thus did not need money. the friendship component of the relationship was strong and very nice. most of the women were educared some were studying medicine or law or had already graduated.
i recall one nacional flight between cities. 2 older women and i struck up a conversation. each of them ended up showing me photos of their daughters and stressing their respective strong points. i was considerably older then their university daughters but the mothers were intent on setting us up. those mothers wre both upper class society, educated, articulate and eloquent.

there is a wealth of lovely sweet intelligent non gold digging women in colombia. speaking spanish helps alot.

if i were in the market doe a girlfriend, i would network within the uiversities and professional social circles.

good luck

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smf says on Feb 2, 2007, 13:37:

an PS ALWAYS GET A PRENUPTIAL AGREEMENT

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Cindster says on Feb 2, 2007, 13:56:

Most girls yes you would think she is(im sorry) a HOE or not respectful

But see in my position if i was single & went to colombia i would usually go to a club like Mangos with cousins . & cousins like mine can't stand me even talk to a guy because they would have a heart attack.. ( i can barely talk to their friends ) so its a "you never know thing".

but if they are dancing huging & kissin then yes sir you got a puta on your hands ..

La Colombianita ; Cindy

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marce says on Feb 2, 2007, 15:55:

why not? Why older men can't truly date beautiful Colombian women? ...I'm just curious.
Personally (I am a colombiana) I love foreigners(read it as the white blond type that we don't have much here) and I don't agree with the discouraging posts saying that gringos don't have a chance to find a good girl. That is not true. Male and female foreigners have their chance. As in any other country there are good and bad men and women, that's all. I work at a bilingual school in Cali and I see many happy couples (Colombian-canadian, or English or Scottish). They even stayed in Colombia for their wives and husbands.
I guess I am not answering suizo's question. I guess I don't have the answer and I don't know it all as some people here claim to.
Alright suizo, it is always nice to have people visiting Colombia and enjoying the country (that has prostitutes as any other country and prostitues for everyone, it is not only for foreigners)

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johnarizona says on Feb 19, 2007, 16:31:

right on Marce percentages don't affect winners....that only a few people win the lottery doesn't mean the lottery winner didn't win! Listening to others is fine, following their advice is probably awful risky...live your life!

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steveyorkuk says on Apr 27, 2007, 14:33:

gringo reading some of the comments from "colombian guys" it surprises me that you consider people from other countries including usa as gringos i have travelled many times colombia and have found that people do not class europeans has gringos maybe i have not been in same areas has you live , but i have stayed cali and surrounding areas also bogota, also yes there is girls that are gold diggers young and middle aged that want to escape colombia, but i have had three girlfriends that have been fantastic girls and to be honest they have treated me with kindness love and a great deal of affection i am not rich maybe in colombia europe standards adequate is maybe a better word, after my first trip colombia i fell in love with it and now have been 13 times i now also have a colombia girl that is travelling back with me in june to live here in england, her family has a restaraunt in zarzal, and they have treated me as well as my own family would in uk, they would not take any money for my keep and protected me in a very dangerous area but call me gringo no cali call me gringo no and all surrounding area no so sorry guys its only usa guys that are gringos
steve

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kalder says on Apr 27, 2007, 14:43:

I'm as English as stewed vegetables and in Colombia I'm considered as gringo as Elvis.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:08:

como decimos en Colombia, todo el mundo que hable enredao es considerado gringo :)))

engage brain before opening mouth

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:12:

which brings us back a full circle to the meaning of the word "gringo", "griego", "gibberish".
Please let's not start again with urban legends about green go and green grow the lilacs....

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:17:

LOL Desi
LOL Desi

engage brain before opening mouth

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getting better says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:27:

Complicada Understand what this means before you break your heart

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:30:

A Gringo is a North American To me and anyone I know. I have always called Australianos, Austriacos, Franceses, Suizos, Alemanes etc. Maybe if you are in the country side, they heard a different language or accent and to them is a Gringo.

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rocinante says on Apr 27, 2007, 17:08:

eres gringo también pobrecito ...so sorry guys its only usa guys that are gringos - steveyorkuk

"como decimos en Colombia, todo el mundo que hable enredao es considerado gringo :))) " Kat Hysterical Kat!

Steve York - In Colombia if you're visiting from Australia - you're a Gringo, If you live in Rome and are visiting Colombia you are a Gringo. I'd go on but It's actually easier to say who is NOT a gringo according to Colombianos: a Gringo is anyone who is not from South/Central America, Mexico. Although please note that Colombians have nicknames other than Gringo for say Orientals (Chinos) and Indians etc...

Steve, if some Colombiano friend, girlfriend, whatever is telling you that you are not considered a Gringo and you are from England, they are lying to your face. Please know the difference between being considered a gringo and being called a Gringo to your face.

Just because they won't/don't call you one to your face doesn't mean the rest of Colombia Society doesn't consider you and your European brethren Gringos. ¡Confia en mi, gringo hermano mio!

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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chester says on Apr 27, 2007, 17:26:

did u hear the one about the Tica, the Nica and the Calena in a row boat?

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getting better says on Apr 27, 2007, 17:32:

I'm not disagreeing But I have sometimes heard Colombians referring to me as a "mono" behind my back. I dont think it is necessarily mutually exclusive to being a "gringo" but I take it as being less rude.

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CaritadeAngel says on Apr 27, 2007, 20:41:

Memories of my Melancholy Gringas?
So I was swiming in this place on the cost - don't ask me to name it because I was actually on a church outing of all things (yeah, wild, I know) and I was swimming away and minding my own business when this old man swims up to me and starts...well...chatting me up for want of a better phrase.

"But gringas are so ugly." says he (after informing me that he wsa 82 years old, in perfect health, and that everything worked).

"That, my love", said his wife, who had snuck up behind him "is because she is not a gringa. She's European."

So there you go.

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 27, 2007, 20:53:

Oh boy Caritadeangel You are in deep trouble!!! LOL

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fugdis says on Apr 27, 2007, 22:05:

depends When I tell people here in Cali I am English,the usual reply is "your English?...I thought you were a gringo"

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CaritadeAngel says on Apr 27, 2007, 22:19:

LOL Deep trouble doesnt even come close to the expression on that old lady's face :)

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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David in Idaho says on Apr 27, 2007, 22:35:

I guess what we're seeing is that the definition varies from place to place, person to person. Growing up on the Mexican border, I always thought that Gringo just meant estadounidense (United States-ian). When they want to be polite, they call us norteamericanos, which I always thought was a bit odd, since Mexico is one of the three countries that comprise North America. The first time I went to South America (in Ecuador) I was asked (in Spanish) "Where are you from?" to which I responded "I'm a gringo." The guy looked puzzled and said, "I know you're a gringo (it's obvious!) but which country are you from? England? France? Germany? The States?" That was the first time I'd ever encountered a broader definition of the term. Other Ecuadorians I asked had the same idea. And now it seems that in Colombia, as well, there are various definitions in circulation. My wife says that in Barranquilla, the term usually means something like "white foreigner." Africans and Asians are not gringos, but Europeans, Canadians, Australians, etc. are. I doubt it is a label they relish.

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rocinante says on Apr 28, 2007, 10:27:

yeah Getting better, "mono" behind your back? You must be blonde, I get "blanco" behind my back y soy un hombre de tez trigueño.

Yeah David, "White foreigner" pretty much sums it up. Indians, and Orientals and blacks have "other" names.

In Colombia all white foreigners are considered gringos - when they want to be polite they will switch it to Norte Americano, or whatever country. But when the smoke settles and the dust clears, in Colombia (and from what Dave posted Ecuador) all are Gringos. One guy told me that Puerto Ricans who can't even speak a lick of english are considered gringos. But I am reluctant to believe that!

I can't speak about Ecuador but in Colombia you hit the nail on the head "Where are you from?" to which I responded "I'm a gringo." The guy looked puzzled and said, "I know you're a gringo (it's obvious!) but which country are you from? England? France? Germany? The States?"

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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morphus says on Apr 28, 2007, 10:50:

Puerto Rico is part of the U.S. so technically they're gringos.

Miguel_Clavo is a gringo too. What else would you call a Mexican-American that does'nt speak Spanish?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 28, 2007, 11:54:

Pobrecito, Morhpie! i can be whatever i want to be..and when i want to be...why hate, bro? ....yup, morpus...i no speeekkkieee engliiiiii eeeetthherrrrrr, Sr Pastyness.....to answer your question, Sr Pedophile, maybe a english speaking American who has Mexican roots, or an english speaking bicultural Mexican-American or American-Mexican, your choice,...and what do you know of my bilingual abilities? you been stalking me? i hate to tell you this, but Miguel is male, and i am over 14...so i dont think i fall into either of your criteria for mating....assumming, of course, the female variety is all you are interested in....=)....btw, "cuando me conviene" i can be a gringo or a latino..depends on the application i am filling out.....but pasty is pasty no matter how you look at it, and you cant change that, unless of course you go to a tanning salon, which is recommended after viewing your photos....less green and pasty, more brown....then you can call yourself El Gringo Latino for sure..

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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morphus says on Apr 28, 2007, 12:05:

You take my tounge and You take my tounge in cheek posts way too serious. I'm sorry that one shook you up so bad :)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 28, 2007, 12:11:

No, i dont take what you say personally Morphus..i know you and i trade barbs, but all in good fun....no harm no foul...just we pull each others chains now and them....entertainment, is all it is.....and that is just my style of writing, (probably influenced by a long career hanging out with very cynical co-worker, customers, and coroners---who, btw, have the darkest sense of humour of all!) ..nothing would prevent me from buying you a (non-Colombian)beer in Colombia.....but, this has to be continued, because my San Jose Sharks are about to b-slap the Detroit Redwings again in the Stanley Cup Round 2 playoffs.....we can chat again in about 3 hours......

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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morphus says on Apr 28, 2007, 15:25:

Alright, but if I throw a jab, you don't have to come back with machine gun fire.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 28, 2007, 15:32:

Damn Sharks lost 3-2...series tied 1-1......crapola..... Like my anger-management therapist suggests, (=) i will sit down, have a few beers, take deep breathes, and then respond to attacks...but it is not wise to shoot only 1 bullet...what if you miss? =)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 28, 2007, 16:19:

You guys are doing great negotiating the terms of your aggressive behaviour and degree of severity of ad hominem attacks. I can start thinking about my retirement now.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 28, 2007, 18:32:

You are right, Desi, it was a moment of weakness..i wont let it happen again, because we want you here being our conscience...hhahaha....or most of us actually ....=)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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billyb says on Apr 28, 2007, 21:57:

Damn, MC im listening to the Sharkies and they're.. winning 2-0, leave for a while and they F$%kin' lose 3-2. wassupp with that? BTW, everybody I know in Colombia refers to N. Americans as gringos and everybody else as to wherever they come from such as Italiano, Ingles , Frances Etc. it might be different with the compesinos refering to every non-latin being gringo, but that's just out of ignorance.

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 28, 2007, 22:09:

I just said that billyb!!!! You are so wright.

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billyb says on Apr 28, 2007, 22:17:

I just read the thread back and Lisa... the only thing I can say, is that great minds think alike ;)

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 28, 2007, 22:33:

you bet! I have a very large family and they travel all over the world and I never heard any one calling Europeans or any other nationality in or out of Colombia "gringos"; Which is not derogatory by the way.
I call my son mi Gringito lindo, and my b/f also.

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billyb says on Apr 28, 2007, 22:42:

I agree, I have never heard gringo used as ... a degoratory term in Colombia either, at least not by my family or friends, it's used as a casual term or even as a term of endearment, as you use it with your son or BF. I have a question though, when you say "gringito lindo" how does your BF or son know which one you are refering to ;)

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goin_south says on Apr 28, 2007, 23:39:

And, the puerta riquanans look down on colombianos... as well.
I think, that because they are a 'territory of the USA', they have a lil uppity attitude. (But, they're still hot! in de sak!)

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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billyb says on Apr 28, 2007, 23:43:

Actually, I think Colombians... look down on Puerto Rico as well as most LA. Except for Chile, Argentina and Brazil.

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:04:

On occasion, I send one of these Youtube Colombian music videos to my ex-gf in Houston, una puerta riquana.... and she always sends me a note back: "I have MY OWN music; or, maybe I just don't Like Colombian things so much"

"Well, hey.... F*Q-off! Beach!"
Really, she's a (not so?)great lady and I just thought I was sending something to E.X.P.A.N.D. her latina mind...

Now, I can't really say I know alot about Puerto Rico, except for I take her word, it is a paradise...more tropical islandish than Colombia, but... really, I think so much of the cultures are very similar.... EXCEPT FOR..... THE WAR.

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:05:

Oh.... and, I guess they don't grow coca there, but... I am sure they have some.

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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billyb says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:11:

They don't grow it, but... they tranship it. BTW, if she's so great, why is she an X??

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:17:

why do you play 'miniature' golf?

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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billyb says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:19:

Infeliz, as any woman will tell you.. I play long off the tee and have no short game at all ;)

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:21:

any woman? oh? I'll make sure to ask Kat, on Monday ;)

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:23:

sounds like you need a new Katty.... jeje
(no short game?)
...need help to get yer putter out???

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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robertdelred says on Apr 29, 2007, 05:35:

Enlightened to read your comment I would like to get your feedback on other areas about Colombia. Do you have a hotmail or e-mail address?

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raulinho says on Apr 29, 2007, 05:45:

As Roci said gringo does not distinguish between american and european. Forget about trying to fit in, which is really what the problem with the deniers is... you don't look Colombian or South or central american... so you are a gringo, accept it. Look, as a gringo in Colombia the odds are stacked in your favour for getting laid..... it does have advantages. In Spain you are a guiri (if you are european or US white) or sudaca if south/central american, both are not termes of respect, but don't take it personally.

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rocinante says on Apr 29, 2007, 06:09:

raulino The problem is that you have a few people who don't live in Colombia addressing the question. No one ever said gringo was totally deragatory. I've never been called a gringo in Colombia and I'm 100% gringo. Lisa Zee your family can travel all over the world and never be considered gringos in other countries. But in Colombia, if you are not from South/Central America or Mexico (see my post above) you're considered a gringo. Colombians living in Colombia (I guess I have to spell that out) make no distinction between Canada and Europe etc...

If some guy is visiting his girlfriend's or future wife's family and he lives and just flew in from Italy, out of politeness they will refer to you as Italiano. 100% no doubt. Campesinaos or ricos. But you're still considered a gringo.

If you don't live in Colombia than why even worry about it?

Also being considered a gringo and being called a gringo to your face (instead of being called "italiano" or whatever) is two different things.

Colombians will even call their relatives that have returned to Colombia after living abroad for a long time gringos as well.

Of course I get my information from Colombians living in Colombia - the only ignorance is the crap posted on this board by a bunch of US and European gringos - not that there's a difference mind you...

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 29, 2007, 09:48:

My husband is British and in Colombia they call him gringo, my kids are call gringuitos.

I have never heard of someone calling them the English.. and they are not even English they are Welsh :)

engage brain before opening mouth

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jay1234 says on Apr 29, 2007, 10:41:

Only in the US have I felt that people considered gringo a slur. I am of course only speaking about my own experience and opinion, but in my many years of travels in Latin America, I have been called gringo and have referred to myself as the same without any thought that it was pejorative.
As a separate issue, I have also noticed that it is common to call darker skinned people "negrito," which for those from the US raises the inference of the "n"-word. However, I think the racial cultural dynamics are different. Not that it is okay or that discrimination is not there, just that it is not the same as in the US.

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sweet160 says on Apr 29, 2007, 12:34:

Beaners :) or Tacos perhaps ?

" its a dog eat dog world, and I will eat your dog! "

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 13:24:

yeah, I remember a lil mexicana in Dallas frequently referrring to me as her gringo...with a lil spice on the word.
No bother, here... :)

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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BxUnika says on Apr 29, 2007, 13:48:

So Sawwy... """Honestly it's tough for a gringo to find a good hearted, non puta, non gold digging chica..... AND not many of these good women, if you can find them, really want a non-colombian man.""

Sorry to say, but if you weren't defectove in some way or didn't perceive yourself as defective subconsciously, you'd never need to go to another cntinent to find a woman.

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raulinho says on Apr 29, 2007, 14:00:

haha... well said BxUnica I agree 100%

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 29, 2007, 14:00:

I would have to agree with SkinnyPuppy (UTC) on the slur... but i would differ in that lots of mexicans in Southern California call white Americans "gringo" to their face. In Los Angeles, mexicans would use Gringo as a racial slur (ie, pinche gringo!) and usually in an attempt to start shit with them. It was meant as a racial slur, and spoken as a racial slur, and fought over as a racial slur..same as the N-word for blacks, mojados/wetbacks for mexicans, etc..ONe just had to be prepared to throw down, which was usually all the time anyway.....it was a lovely world growing up there.....like i say now,,,LA is a nice place to be FROM...jajaja..and like Billyb says, to be cool, you had to throw in "hue" at the end of everything...jajja....

BxUnika...gotta love that point blank style of posting...jajaja

..Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Monpirri says on Apr 29, 2007, 14:12:

I do think that's true "Actually, I think Colombians...
look down on Puerto Rico as well as most LA. Except for Chile, Argentina and Brazil."
Billyb

Colombians, I least the ones I know do not look down on Puerto Ricans and let me tell you why. Puerto Rico and Colombia have a common interest in music or salsa and in Cali is where both interchange their legendary and mutual interest. If you listen to salsa CD's musicians from Colombia and Puerto Rico compliment each other.
I have lots of good friends from Puerto Rico.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 29, 2007, 17:36:

No joda, como alegan estos berracos!!! YOU can call all foreigners GRINGOS, and I am talking in Colombia. I visit Colombia about once a year for a month or two, and I will always call People from 'The United States Of America'= Gringos. From Canada Canadienses, Alemania Alemanes,Puerto Rico Puerto Riquenos and so on. And when any of my family or I travel abroad, we are called Colombians of course (y a mucho honor!!!)
And my son I will always call "mi Gringuito lindo" or if he Pss. me off...I tell him "no te me hagas el gringo!" jajajajaja.
BILLY... they know who I am talking to.

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rocinante says on Apr 30, 2007, 05:10:

well said BxUnica!
"just cause they get tired of having the old americans think they can come over there and try to have sex with all the 17-25 year old woman because they would have no chance in the states....lol....Get real or get lost...Speak your mind guys...I know someone has something to say...."-bamapits

Someone said it:
"Sorry to say, but if you weren't defectove in some way or didn't perceive yourself as defective subconsciously, you'd never need to go to another cntinent to find a woman. - BxUnica

I agree, well said BxUnica. At least Elmo literally spells it out (not that he's defective but why he's moving back to Colombia). Of course BxUnica and Bamapits are insulting 95% of the male posters on this board but They're not the first.

But like I said to the OP, if you're not looking for a gold digging hooker, stay out of the tourist prepago joints. If you're looking for a good girl realize that she's smart enough to know you're going back to your home country in a few days when the vacation is over.

So, now that you're home, watcha gonna so with those number you got?

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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rocinante says on Apr 30, 2007, 05:25:

OK now we agree I visit Colombia about once a year for a month or two, and I will always call People from 'The United States Of America'= Gringos. From Canada Canadienses, Alemania Alemanes,Puerto Rico Puerto Riquenos and so on.

OK it's settled, Lisa - you visit once a year and are polite. Kudos. I agree with you that when you leave California and are in Colombia you call people from 'The United States Of America'= Gringos. From Canada Canadienses, Alemania Alemanes"

I was talking about Colombians living in Colombia who have never left the country. I probably wasn't clear about that when I responded to the OP that the Colombians living in Colombia that were in the bar he was talking about considered him a gringo - regardless if he's suizo.

No Biggie - I just like the folks reading this board to know real facts about Colombia and the Colombians living in today's Colombia.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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rocinante says on Apr 30, 2007, 05:52:

Why am I quoting myself? "No Biggie - I just like the folks reading this board to know real facts about Colombia and the Colombians living in today's Colombia."-some buttheadIt just steams my beans when people falsely post about Colombia and Colombians. I hate reading that Colombian women hate Colombian men, all Colombians are dying to get out of Colombia and live in North America or Europe. Colombianas spread their legs and drop their panties to anyone holding a blue passport, I hate that one guy who has stayed in Poblado twice and never left Parque Lleras - he will come here make grand sweeping statements about Colombia based on little. It's like reporting about life in the US after visiting Times Square.

I like this board because I have received useful information and shared many a good laugh and really enjoy the subject of Colombia - most importantly the people. (my favorite one recently was some guy who posted that "why do colombians think that yawns are a sign of hunger?" - they do, I don't know why, but I'm damn sure gonna find out)

I am hoping I can give a little back and want it to be genuine and authentic information, straight up.

I don't mean to bicker or offend. It's just the misrepresentation and misinformation that gets my ire up.

I do nothing but talk to Colombians in Colombia about everything all day long. When I'm back in the states I'm not happy so I go to Colombian neighborhoods with my laptop and talk to Colombians living in the states and show them my videos and photos.

Everyone loves the globos and the New Year's eve and Chiva videos. I also have a video of some kid singing at las fondas on the last night of Feria de Flores. It's priceless. I'm going to you tube it soon.

I just want the overview of Colombia depicted on this site to be well rounded, authentic and represented from many perspectives.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 30, 2007, 21:30:

ROSINANTE!!!! THE FIRST THING I SAID WAS: 'I HAVE A VERY LARGE FAMILY', AND I MEAN LARGE!, AND THEY ARE COLOMBIAN BORN AND RAISED I MEDELLIN, AND CALI, SOME OF THEM, MAYBE HALF HAVE NEVER GONE ANYWHERE AUTSIDE COLOMBIA, AND WHEN FRIENDS OF SOME OF MY CLOSE RELATIVES COME TO VISIT FROM OTHERS COUNTRIES,(there is an Italian girl visiting now) THEY ARE COLLED WHATEVER NATIONALITY THEY ARE FROM, NEVER, EVER THEY CALL A GRINGO ANY OTHER PERSON THAN THE ONES FROM USA!
It could happen that if we are at a small town and the 'campesinos' hear some guys talking in German, to them is '# at +&*%#' they might call them 'Gringo'. And I said that too before.
In all the yeas that I have lived here, I have gone to Colombia sometimes from 3 to 7 months at a time!. I AM 100% COLOMBIAN!

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goin_south says on Apr 30, 2007, 22:39:

if you weren't defectove in some way or didn't perceive yourself as defective subconsciously, you'd never ?NEED? to go to another cntinent to find a woman.

Buxunika,... there are other things, aside from, and not associated with,.......NEED,.......... that may cause one man to find himself in South America, mixing it up with the ladies.

Consider myself 'el felizafortunado'.... to have found a golden-hearted, non-puta, non-gold-diggin....blah, blah, blah blah blah....

Doesn't change the fact, we, including me, all here, are defective and demented in a few ways. (Please don't tell 'er)

HEY!!! YER NOT TAKING OUT AN AD IN 'EL TIEMPO' TO REPORT US ALL, ARE YA???

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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Man Tequila says on Apr 30, 2007, 23:49:

I've never met anyone who wasn't defective in SOME way, except for some of the posters on this board, of course. Perhaps even a few of them may even concede not everyone goes to Colombia looking for easy sex or views the world in such vivid black and white.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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morphus says on May 1, 2007, 00:06:

Lets face it, Bxunika would be happy if all you defective guys would just stay home and jack off...lol.

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aztec says on May 1, 2007, 05:56:

skinnypuppy Why don't you go somewhere else to play? We really don't need your smart ass remarks here!

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Cerealkiller says on May 1, 2007, 05:58:

haha Skinnypuppy, I admit to having no life from 9 to 5 pm...I go to uni sometimes but yeah, youre right. Most people here are anything but well-adjusted, but can you blame us? I spend my days here and on facebook...At least I dont go to Colombia for pussy!!!! :D

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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David in Idaho says on May 1, 2007, 06:13:

BxUnica, that was typical of the stupid crap people like to say on PBH. But I think you are only addressing a portion (and probably a minority) of the Americans (and other gringos) who find love in Colombia. You don't take into account the guys who do well with the gringas, but have come to the inevitable conclusion that our culture produces damn few decent women anymore. Sorry gringa posters - I'm sure you're great people - I have lots of gringa friends, but wouldn't want to date ANY of them. Nope. So you see BxUnica, some of us have found our wives in Colombia because we feel that these women are superior, NOT because we are defective. Then again, if I feel the need to log onto this site in order to defend the voice of reason against naive people like you, I supppose I must be defective in some profound way. BTW, Rocinante, I'm surprised you agree with him - you're usually such level headed and insightful poster, and I always value your input. You're not defective too, are you?

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morphus says on May 1, 2007, 11:52:

Thats why it does'nt make sense for me to go for chicks over 25y/o in Colombia. I meet plenty of them here in U.S. I usually go for 18-22 y/o girls in Colombia. Nobody thinks much of it. I can hang out with 18 year old girls at the university or the mall without anybody calling the police. Even high school girls are open game. In Colombia, its normal for a 50 year old guy to ask out an 18 year old girl.

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frankdeboca says on May 1, 2007, 15:33:

Lot's of advice here I see... I would say from my experiences in Colombia that offers in clubs of a major city can be 50/50 if you are good looking. In the end you just have to use judgement. Same as here in the states... if she likes you in a place where you appear to be a "regular guy" then you have a chance for a real woman... on the other hand in a club dressed to kill you look like a lottery ticket on two legs and you can't really blame them for trying to win that lottery now can ya' ?

Just relax and enjoy yourself - if you hook up - great! If something more comes from it - better! If you go looking to get a wife than you will definitely waste your time. Relax and enjoy the ride man... if you get a wife one day there- cool. Don't sweat the details.

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~The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering...

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rocinante says on May 1, 2007, 16:10:

Yanqui go home Lisa no attack on you. Honestly I've only heard the word gringo uttered in Colombia by tourists. I'm sure Colombianos use it but for the most part, out of politeness, they say "norte americano", "suizo", "itlaiano" etc... So you and I are on the same page in regards to getting called a gringo. However Kat1 who is also 100% Colombiana disagrees by posting in this thread page 2, "My husband is British and in Colombia they call him gringo, ...I have never heard of someone calling them the English.."

I am not denying your Colombianess. You tell me otherwise - I totally believe you. I just find that the masses, especially in Medallo consider all non South/Central Americans and Mexicans gringos, regardless of what they are called to their faces.

No big deal.

If I offended any gringos from North America, Europe or Australia me importa un bledo, en Colombia uds son gringos. Jejeje

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rocinante says on May 1, 2007, 16:16:

gran respuesta David In Idaho, Si, estoy de acuerdo con BxUnica. Tengo una respuesta mas perfecta para ti, pero ya la escribí - hace un año - en este foro, pero no puedo encontrarla en este sitio. Ahora tengo que "camellar". Pienso escribirtela mas tarde.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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David in Idaho says on May 1, 2007, 16:28:

Espero tu respuesta Rocinante Como siemrpe, tus palabras valen mucho.

PD ¿Por qué escribimos en español por este lado del sitio?

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Lisa Zee says on May 1, 2007, 16:58:

Rocinante I am ok if UR OK :] LOL. And lets just remember that when we say Colombia, there are many places!
When my son {mi gringito bello,lindo!} was 3 y/o we landed in Bogota and I said we have to fly now to another city. {I always said Colombia this ,Colombia that, we are going to Colombia.} And he said "how many Colombians are there Mommy?".... Tan lindo mi Gringito!

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aztec says on May 2, 2007, 06:47:

rocinante, been in and out... ...of Colombia for 17+ years and have heard the gringo referred to many times. Albeit in a respectful manner. Not at all like some other country where the term is used as a derogatory term.

Most Colombians are not aware the term as heard by most North Americans has been thrown at them as an insult by natives of another country. indeed, Colombians many times use the term as an endearment. For instance, my Gringito.

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elreydelostrolls says on May 2, 2007, 17:15:

Only a Colombian would use it as an endearment knowing how gringos feel about being called gringos. You may as well be dropping the N bomb as far as I am concerned. Of course they're so self-centered I don't think they'd give a damm.

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