Colombian Chicas - Someone please explain!

utopiacowboy says on Nov 23, 2006, 07:32:

Another gringo wakes up and smells the coffee.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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suizo says on Nov 23, 2006, 07:34:

I am not... ...a Gringo, but in this case, it probably does not make a difference.

Crackheads suck!

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kalder says on Nov 23, 2006, 07:53:

Strangers in the night If a young girl brazenly (or even coyly) passed me her phone number in a club, I'd assume a certain financial motive behind the offer. However, I have certainly known handsome, personable blokes getting plenty of no-strings sex from chicas in Colombian nightclubs. So, if you're an attractive kind of chap (as your post appears to indicate), then, why yes, these offers (or at least some of them) could be genuine invitations to...ahem...a cup of coffee and a slice of cake.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 23, 2006, 11:29:

"Another gringo wakes up and smells the coffee." Quote UC
One of those large coffees from Starbucks was not strong enough.

Yea..UC. How much more direct can this guy be. I'm kind of liking the new PBSH. The moderators worked so hard to keep girl talk off this site. They finally threw the towel in and now, it seems to be open season here.

Also this part:

"Hooking up with girls never was a problem"

Was that a freudian slip? ja ja

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suizo says on Nov 23, 2006, 13:15:

This is BS... ...if I wanted to start the "girltalk" as you name it, there would probably be other, more appropriate message boards. Just trying to understand what I have seen.

Crackheads suck!

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 23, 2006, 13:28:

Se parece que entiendes lo que viste.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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suizo says on Nov 23, 2006, 13:42:

Oh hell, yes I understand... ...please accept my apologies for not being a so experienced Colombia traveler like many others here. Also, I note that we have experts here regarding "pre- and postpago". Guess they did some in-depth research ...ha ha ha.

Crackheads suck!

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goin_south says on Nov 23, 2006, 15:09:

I note that we have experts here regarding "pre- and postpago". ("They've) looked at love from both sides, now."

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 23, 2006, 20:00:

Morphus I like your lines in this thread......lol....

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elchantajista says on Nov 24, 2006, 03:06:

suizo suizo is a swiss no? not a gringo seems some of the more fluent speakers need to brush up on their spanish and to answer the swiss question u r not their meal ticket, u maybe young and all that but they see young guapo colombiano all the time lol, u r probably here today gone tomorrow

anda de parranda en Bogota
"Vicente"

anda de parranda al Juanchito "Vicente"

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 24, 2006, 17:04:

goin_south says on Nov 25, 2006, 02:11:

Not....., I think otherwise: ""Honestly it's tough for a gringo to find a good hearted, non puta, non gold digging chica..... AND not many of these good women, if you can find them, really want a non-colombian man.""

I have to disagree, Rocinante. Not if that is what you are looking for.
Suizo, if that is the world you are looking for, then I imagine rocinante spelled it out quite clearly.
But, I really think that WHATEVER YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, you can probably find it, in Colombia.
There are plenty of gringos/and a few gringas on here who 'went' (in various forms and venues) looking for a genuine, sincere and solid relationship, and found it.
Not every (guy) on pbh goes to Colombia looking for how much pu**y they can get.
Although, (I think) likely just about any guy on pbh could go to Colombia and get all or more than he can handle (if that is what he wants.) And, from what little I have read on here, it appears a gringa can/could do the same in reverse.
Hell, I'll even stretch in favor of Los Colombianos, and say that a gringa can even find a real solid relationship with uno Colombiano; they also are not all fit into a mold,... as some here like to proclaim that you or I or they fit into one of two or three categories.

And, I think most of those 'goodhearted women' are looking for a good man, colombiano or otherwise.

Every person's desire/style/story is different. If you got a dream, then get your sh*t together, chase it, and make it come true.

Oh! Excuse me. Hypocrite that I am: When I go to Colombia, I do go with 'how much pu**y I can get', at the top of my mind. And, I always get more than my share. It just happens to be with one and the same illustrious Colombiana

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ixent (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 25, 2006, 08:11:

goin_south says on Nov 25, 2006, 10:07:

ixent, I appreciate your perspective, but then there is also the 'Tony Robbins' (and many others) perspective of 'knowing exactly what it is you want, and finding it'; or as you would say likely, 'letting it appear'. But, there ain't no Colombian Geannies in my empty bottle of Aguardiente and so

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 25, 2006, 12:31:

Rocinante, stop making sense. You're just going to confuse everyone.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 25, 2006, 15:06:

I have the best idea Let's just send him to my friend's Wiskeria in Bogota'. This way Suizo can, as they say, "cut to the chase" and will not have to wait for these ladies to be "slipping the phone numbers on the way to the bathroom." And then of course, there is the risk of one of those "Older Colombian men" slipping Suizo the knife, before he gets out the door.

Pay before, pay later, who cares. When the puta is compensated does not make the girl any less of a puta. Does it?

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billyb says on Nov 25, 2006, 15:55:

Pre-Pago, Post-Pago.... what about the Pago-As-You-Go? ;)

BillyB

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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billyb says on Nov 25, 2006, 16:03:

Or rather, who the chick belongs to. BillyB

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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billyb says on Nov 25, 2006, 16:08:

Agreed BillyB

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Gomezman5 says on Nov 25, 2006, 16:10:

Careful Rocinante Agreeing with me can also be dangerous. You run the risk of being accused of being a co-conspirator in scare mongering. :)

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johnarizona says on Nov 27, 2006, 10:21:

some hookers good gals and some regular women are real low-lifes...don't always judge a book by it's cover

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bamapits3 says on Nov 28, 2006, 01:56:

Face it Bro, no matter what you say someone is going to hate on you in any BLOG you post on. All guys arent 40 plus years old like them.....The only reason why they are in colombia is because of the woman. Lets be realistic, if all these americans were as rich as they tell these girls they are then why would they want to live in another country. I have met the most millionairs in colombia then I have ever met anywhere in my life....lol....right.....You are a millionair who doesnt know how to dress or have any style, hint, if you have jeans on with your shirt tucked in with no belt...lol....you need to check that out......I am a 20 year old american who has been traveling to colombia for a while now and its not all about the money, I get plenty of girls and they know I am 20 years old....How is a 20 year old a millionair....he is not....just cause they get tired of having the old americans think they can come over there and try to have sex with all the 17-25 year old woman because they would have no chance in the states....lol....Get real or get lost...Speak your mind guys...I know someone has something to say....

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papamac says on Nov 28, 2006, 08:42:

money? you definately don't have to be a millionaire to travel to colombia...i'm going for the third time this year, in two weeks....i am definately not a millionaire...its $500 for a ticket for a direct flight from here to medellin....then once there...a couple hundred is fine...depends on how much (or how many) you want to do while there.

thanks for this thread...planning on going to mango's on dec. 9th..hope to get a couple numbers...hopefully find a pago-as-u-go like billyb mentioned!

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suizo says on Dec 4, 2006, 08:11:

Thanks ...to everyone who posted. Of course, I am as confused as before, but it sure was a hell of a fun reading your posts. And many of them truly interesting with thoughts to be considered. The only thing I know for sure is: I love the country and I'll be back in April 2007!

Crackheads suck!

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RJQuilla says on Dec 4, 2006, 22:23:

Kalder I take it that your an Englander with the bloke,chap, and slice of cake remarks......LOL. I'm a dark skin chap and have been told I could possibly be offered a lot of cake in England????? Is that so?

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kalder says on Dec 5, 2006, 02:29:

RJQuilla You've heard correctly my friend: your dark complexion would certainly do you no harm here cakewise. No harm at all. You could eat your fill.
But, be advised, English 'cake' tends to be rather fatty, not particularly sweet and over-liberally laced with alcohol.
Stick to arepa.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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spinned1 says on Dec 9, 2006, 05:23:

They know who you are The heart is deceitfully wicked above all things. Who can know it? When will we learn? Men, a word to the wise. Stay away from relationships. Learn to be happy being single and childless. Society has changed and not for the better. Don't set yourself up for a few good years with the woman that supposedly loves you for a life of misery and ruin after the "good times" are long gone. Learn not to be co-dependant. The divorce rate in our westernized societies is at 50% and rising. Is it worth the risk? Many men have been financially devastated, brought to ruin, used, abused emotionally, physically, had their children that they loved taken away and falsely accused of domestic crimes against their wives/significant others and children. Read the (WAVA) Women Against Violence Act, signed into law by President Clinton and President Bush. You are an open target with this law marrying a foreign woman. 70% of all divorces are initiated and filed in family court by women in the U.S. *(Dept. of Justice 2005). The press does not report the fact that many men in western societies have committed suicide due divorce. Not because their wives left them, but what their wives left them with, nothing, but debt and the shirt on their backs living in a poor one bedroom apartment and paying $900 a month child support/alimony for the next 18 years. Will you be able to "hook up" with another beautiful woman with that kind of past, now that you are 10 years older than you were when you first got married, not being able to financially support your next "soul mate"? Why would she pick you when there are millions of men that do not have huge support obligations, children, and an ex-wife to deal with? When your future fiancee finally tells you the magic words, I.. love... you, don't beleive them. You are being set-up. Enjoy going out on dates, get snipped before you do, and come back to your lonely but free, single, beautiful, life. Save yourself while you still are able, because they know who you are.

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elchantajista says on Dec 10, 2006, 06:32:

sounds like u speak from exp hope it wasn;t to bad

anda de parranda en Bogota
"Vicente"

anda de parranda al Juanchito "Vicente"

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smf says on Feb 2, 2007, 13:34:

my perspective on ninas id you go to colombia without spanish, as a tourist, chances are you will only see the a polarized view of the culture.
i see many references to and use of the word puta however the guys who have multiple sex partners remain unscathed by stigma or derogatory terms.

in reading spanish language newspapers it seems the prepaid stuff in medellin is relatively new, and it is not limited to poor girls. een middles class and above can be drawn in by MONEY. almost like the hunky good looking guy with an overweight unattractive wealthy woman in ANY country. maybe for love or maybe for money.


anyway, colombian culture is very different from many other cultures. women are naturally very open minded and sexual compared with say usa women.

i have been affiliated with a colombian medical center in the capacity of a physician. i am average looking, have my hair aND AM NOT OVERWIGHT. women considerably younger than me wanted to date and often were from wealthy families thus did not need money. the friendship component of the relationship was strong and very nice. most of the women were educared some were studying medicine or law or had already graduated.
i recall one nacional flight between cities. 2 older women and i struck up a conversation. each of them ended up showing me photos of their daughters and stressing their respective strong points. i was considerably older then their university daughters but the mothers were intent on setting us up. those mothers wre both upper class society, educated, articulate and eloquent.

there is a wealth of lovely sweet intelligent non gold digging women in colombia. speaking spanish helps alot.

if i were in the market doe a girlfriend, i would network within the uiversities and professional social circles.

good luck

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smf says on Feb 2, 2007, 13:37:

an PS ALWAYS GET A PRENUPTIAL AGREEMENT

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Cindster says on Feb 2, 2007, 13:56:

Most girls yes you would think she is(im sorry) a HOE or not respectful

But see in my position if i was single & went to colombia i would usually go to a club like Mangos with cousins . & cousins like mine can't stand me even talk to a guy because they would have a heart attack.. ( i can barely talk to their friends ) so its a "you never know thing".

but if they are dancing huging & kissin then yes sir you got a puta on your hands ..

La Colombianita ; Cindy

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marce says on Feb 2, 2007, 15:55:

why not? Why older men can't truly date beautiful Colombian women? ...I'm just curious.
Personally (I am a colombiana) I love foreigners(read it as the white blond type that we don't have much here) and I don't agree with the discouraging posts saying that gringos don't have a chance to find a good girl. That is not true. Male and female foreigners have their chance. As in any other country there are good and bad men and women, that's all. I work at a bilingual school in Cali and I see many happy couples (Colombian-canadian, or English or Scottish). They even stayed in Colombia for their wives and husbands.
I guess I am not answering suizo's question. I guess I don't have the answer and I don't know it all as some people here claim to.
Alright suizo, it is always nice to have people visiting Colombia and enjoying the country (that has prostitutes as any other country and prostitues for everyone, it is not only for foreigners)

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johnarizona says on Feb 19, 2007, 16:31:

right on Marce percentages don't affect winners....that only a few people win the lottery doesn't mean the lottery winner didn't win! Listening to others is fine, following their advice is probably awful risky...live your life!

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steveyorkuk says on Apr 27, 2007, 14:33:

gringo reading some of the comments from "colombian guys" it surprises me that you consider people from other countries including usa as gringos i have travelled many times colombia and have found that people do not class europeans has gringos maybe i have not been in same areas has you live , but i have stayed cali and surrounding areas also bogota, also yes there is girls that are gold diggers young and middle aged that want to escape colombia, but i have had three girlfriends that have been fantastic girls and to be honest they have treated me with kindness love and a great deal of affection i am not rich maybe in colombia europe standards adequate is maybe a better word, after my first trip colombia i fell in love with it and now have been 13 times i now also have a colombia girl that is travelling back with me in june to live here in england, her family has a restaraunt in zarzal, and they have treated me as well as my own family would in uk, they would not take any money for my keep and protected me in a very dangerous area but call me gringo no cali call me gringo no and all surrounding area no so sorry guys its only usa guys that are gringos
steve

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kalder says on Apr 27, 2007, 14:43:

I'm as English as stewed vegetables and in Colombia I'm considered as gringo as Elvis.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:08:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:12:

which brings us back a full circle to the meaning of the word "gringo", "griego", "gibberish".
Please let's not start again with urban legends about green go and green grow the lilacs....

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:17:

getting better says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:27:

Complicada Understand what this means before you break your heart

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 27, 2007, 15:30:

A Gringo is a North American To me and anyone I know. I have always called Australianos, Austriacos, Franceses, Suizos, Alemanes etc. Maybe if you are in the country side, they heard a different language or accent and to them is a Gringo.

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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chester says on Apr 27, 2007, 17:26:

did u hear the one about the Tica, the Nica and the Calena in a row boat?

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getting better says on Apr 27, 2007, 17:32:

I'm not disagreeing But I have sometimes heard Colombians referring to me as a "mono" behind my back. I dont think it is necessarily mutually exclusive to being a "gringo" but I take it as being less rude.

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CaritadeAngel says on Apr 27, 2007, 20:41:

Memories of my Melancholy Gringas?
So I was swiming in this place on the cost - don't ask me to name it because I was actually on a church outing of all things (yeah, wild, I know) and I was swimming away and minding my own business when this old man swims up to me and starts...well...chatting me up for want of a better phrase.

"But gringas are so ugly." says he (after informing me that he wsa 82 years old, in perfect health, and that everything worked).

"That, my love", said his wife, who had snuck up behind him "is because she is not a gringa. She's European."

So there you go.

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 27, 2007, 20:53:

Oh boy Caritadeangel You are in deep trouble!!! LOL

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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fugdis says on Apr 27, 2007, 22:05:

depends When I tell people here in Cali I am English,the usual reply is "your English?...I thought you were a gringo"

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CaritadeAngel says on Apr 27, 2007, 22:19:

LOL Deep trouble doesnt even come close to the expression on that old lady's face :)

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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David in Idaho says on Apr 27, 2007, 22:35:

I guess what we're seeing is that the definition varies from place to place, person to person. Growing up on the Mexican border, I always thought that Gringo just meant estadounidense (United States-ian). When they want to be polite, they call us norteamericanos, which I always thought was a bit odd, since Mexico is one of the three countries that comprise North America. The first time I went to South America (in Ecuador) I was asked (in Spanish) "Where are you from?" to which I responded "I'm a gringo." The guy looked puzzled and said, "I know you're a gringo (it's obvious!) but which country are you from? England? France? Germany? The States?" That was the first time I'd ever encountered a broader definition of the term. Other Ecuadorians I asked had the same idea. And now it seems that in Colombia, as well, there are various definitions in circulation. My wife says that in Barranquilla, the term usually means something like "white foreigner." Africans and Asians are not gringos, but Europeans, Canadians, Australians, etc. are. I doubt it is a label they relish.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 28, 2007, 11:54:

Pobrecito, Morhpie! i can be whatever i want to be..and when i want to be...why hate, bro? ....yup, morpus...i no speeekkkieee engliiiiii eeeetthherrrrrr, Sr Pastyness.....to answer your question, Sr Pedophile, maybe a english speaking American who has Mexican roots, or an english speaking bicultural Mexican-American or American-Mexican, your choice,...and what do you know of my bilingual abilities? you been stalking me? i hate to tell you this, but Miguel is male, and i am over 14...so i dont think i fall into either of your criteria for mating....assumming, of course, the female variety is all you are interested in....=)....btw, "cuando me conviene" i can be a gringo or a latino..depends on the application i am filling out.....but pasty is pasty no matter how you look at it, and you cant change that, unless of course you go to a tanning salon, which is recommended after viewing your photos....less green and pasty, more brown....then you can call yourself El Gringo Latino for sure..

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

Lets hear it for the new PBH Experts on Colombia! DrPhilinamillion, KY, and Darloops!!!!!!! We Salute Your Valuable Contributions to This Forum!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 28, 2007, 12:11:

No, i dont take what you say personally Morphus..i know you and i trade barbs, but all in good fun....no harm no foul...just we pull each others chains now and them....entertainment, is all it is.....and that is just my style of writing, (probably influenced by a long career hanging out with very cynical co-worker, customers, and coroners---who, btw, have the darkest sense of humour of all!) ..nothing would prevent me from buying you a (non-Colombian)beer in Colombia.....but, this has to be continued, because my San Jose Sharks are about to b-slap the Detroit Redwings again in the Stanley Cup Round 2 playoffs.....we can chat again in about 3 hours......

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

Lets hear it for the new PBH Experts on Colombia! DrPhilinamillion, KY, and Darloops!!!!!!! We Salute Your Valuable Contributions to This Forum!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 28, 2007, 15:32:

Damn Sharks lost 3-2...series tied 1-1......crapola..... Like my anger-management therapist suggests, (=) i will sit down, have a few beers, take deep breathes, and then respond to attacks...but it is not wise to shoot only 1 bullet...what if you miss? =)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

Lets hear it for the new PBH Experts on Colombia! DrPhilinamillion, KY, and Darloops!!!!!!! We Salute Your Valuable Contributions to This Forum!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 28, 2007, 16:19:

You guys are doing great negotiating the terms of your aggressive behaviour and degree of severity of ad hominem attacks. I can start thinking about my retirement now.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 28, 2007, 18:32:

You are right, Desi, it was a moment of weakness..i wont let it happen again, because we want you here being our conscience...hhahaha....or most of us actually ....=)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

Lets hear it for the new PBH Experts on Colombia! DrPhilinamillion, KY, and Darloops!!!!!!! We Salute Your Valuable Contributions to This Forum!

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billyb says on Apr 28, 2007, 21:57:

Damn, MC im listening to the Sharkies and they're.. winning 2-0, leave for a while and they F$%kin' lose 3-2. wassupp with that? BTW, everybody I know in Colombia refers to N. Americans as gringos and everybody else as to wherever they come from such as Italiano, Ingles , Frances Etc. it might be different with the compesinos refering to every non-latin being gringo, but that's just out of ignorance.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 28, 2007, 22:09:

I just said that billyb!!!! You are so wright.

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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billyb says on Apr 28, 2007, 22:17:

I just read the thread back and Lisa... the only thing I can say, is that great minds think alike ;)

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 28, 2007, 22:33:

you bet! I have a very large family and they travel all over the world and I never heard any one calling Europeans or any other nationality in or out of Colombia "gringos"; Which is not derogatory by the way.
I call my son mi Gringito lindo, and my b/f also.

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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billyb says on Apr 28, 2007, 22:42:

I agree, I have never heard gringo used as ... a degoratory term in Colombia either, at least not by my family or friends, it's used as a casual term or even as a term of endearment, as you use it with your son or BF. I have a question though, when you say "gringito lindo" how does your BF or son know which one you are refering to ;)

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Apr 28, 2007, 23:39:

And, the puerta riquanans look down on colombianos... as well.
I think, that because they are a 'territory of the USA', they have a lil uppity attitude. (But, they're still hot! in de sak!)

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billyb says on Apr 28, 2007, 23:43:

Actually, I think Colombians... look down on Puerto Rico as well as most LA. Except for Chile, Argentina and Brazil.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:04:

On occasion, I send one of these Youtube Colombian music videos to my ex-gf in Houston, una puerta riquana.... and she always sends me a note back: "I have MY OWN music; or, maybe I just don't Like Colombian things so much"

"Well, hey.... F*Q-off! Beach!"
Really, she's a (not so?)great lady and I just thought I was sending something to E.X.P.A.N.D. her latina mind...

Now, I can't really say I know alot about Puerto Rico, except for I take her word, it is a paradise...more tropical islandish than Colombia, but... really, I think so much of the cultures are very similar.... EXCEPT FOR..... THE WAR.

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:05:

Oh.... and, I guess they don't grow coca there, but... I am sure they have some.

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billyb says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:11:

They don't grow it, but... they tranship it. BTW, if she's so great, why is she an X??

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:17:

why do you play 'miniature' golf?

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billyb says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:19:

Infeliz, as any woman will tell you.. I play long off the tee and have no short game at all ;)

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:21:

any woman? oh? I'll make sure to ask Kat, on Monday ;)

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 00:23:

sounds like you need a new Katty.... jeje
(no short game?)
...need help to get yer putter out???

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robertdelred says on Apr 29, 2007, 05:35:

Enlightened to read your comment I would like to get your feedback on other areas about Colombia. Do you have a hotmail or e-mail address?

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raulinho says on Apr 29, 2007, 05:45:

As Roci said gringo does not distinguish between american and european. Forget about trying to fit in, which is really what the problem with the deniers is... you don't look Colombian or South or central american... so you are a gringo, accept it. Look, as a gringo in Colombia the odds are stacked in your favour for getting laid..... it does have advantages. In Spain you are a guiri (if you are european or US white) or sudaca if south/central american, both are not termes of respect, but don't take it personally.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 29, 2007, 09:48:

jay1234 says on Apr 29, 2007, 10:41:

Only in the US have I felt that people considered gringo a slur. I am of course only speaking about my own experience and opinion, but in my many years of travels in Latin America, I have been called gringo and have referred to myself as the same without any thought that it was pejorative.
As a separate issue, I have also noticed that it is common to call darker skinned people "negrito," which for those from the US raises the inference of the "n"-word. However, I think the racial cultural dynamics are different. Not that it is okay or that discrimination is not there, just that it is not the same as in the US.

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sweet160 says on Apr 29, 2007, 12:34:

Beaners :) or Tacos perhaps ?

" its a dog eat dog world, and I will eat your dog! "

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goin_south says on Apr 29, 2007, 13:24:

yeah, I remember a lil mexicana in Dallas frequently referrring to me as her gringo...with a lil spice on the word.
No bother, here... :)

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BxUnika says on Apr 29, 2007, 13:48:

So Sawwy... """Honestly it's tough for a gringo to find a good hearted, non puta, non gold digging chica..... AND not many of these good women, if you can find them, really want a non-colombian man.""

Sorry to say, but if you weren't defectove in some way or didn't perceive yourself as defective subconsciously, you'd never need to go to another cntinent to find a woman.

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raulinho says on Apr 29, 2007, 14:00:

haha... well said BxUnica I agree 100%

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 29, 2007, 14:00:

I would have to agree with SkinnyPuppy (UTC) on the slur... but i would differ in that lots of mexicans in Southern California call white Americans "gringo" to their face. In Los Angeles, mexicans would use Gringo as a racial slur (ie, pinche gringo!) and usually in an attempt to start shit with them. It was meant as a racial slur, and spoken as a racial slur, and fought over as a racial slur..same as the N-word for blacks, mojados/wetbacks for mexicans, etc..ONe just had to be prepared to throw down, which was usually all the time anyway.....it was a lovely world growing up there.....like i say now,,,LA is a nice place to be FROM...jajaja..and like Billyb says, to be cool, you had to throw in "hue" at the end of everything...jajja....

BxUnika...gotta love that point blank style of posting...jajaja

..Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

Lets hear it for the new PBH Experts on Colombia! DrPhilinamillion, KY, and Darloops!!!!!!! We Salute Your Valuable Contributions to This Forum!

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Monpirri says on Apr 29, 2007, 14:12:

I do think that's true "Actually, I think Colombians...
look down on Puerto Rico as well as most LA. Except for Chile, Argentina and Brazil."
Billyb

Colombians, I least the ones I know do not look down on Puerto Ricans and let me tell you why. Puerto Rico and Colombia have a common interest in music or salsa and in Cali is where both interchange their legendary and mutual interest. If you listen to salsa CD's musicians from Colombia and Puerto Rico compliment each other.
I have lots of good friends from Puerto Rico.

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 29, 2007, 17:36:

No joda, como alegan estos berracos!!! YOU can call all foreigners GRINGOS, and I am talking in Colombia. I visit Colombia about once a year for a month or two, and I will always call People from 'The United States Of America'= Gringos. From Canada Canadienses, Alemania Alemanes,Puerto Rico Puerto Riquenos and so on. And when any of my family or I travel abroad, we are called Colombians of course (y a mucho honor!!!)
And my son I will always call "mi Gringuito lindo" or if he Pss. me off...I tell him "no te me hagas el gringo!" jajajajaja.
BILLY... they know who I am talking to.

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 30, 2007, 21:30:

ROSINANTE!!!! THE FIRST THING I SAID WAS: 'I HAVE A VERY LARGE FAMILY', AND I MEAN LARGE!, AND THEY ARE COLOMBIAN BORN AND RAISED I MEDELLIN, AND CALI, SOME OF THEM, MAYBE HALF HAVE NEVER GONE ANYWHERE AUTSIDE COLOMBIA, AND WHEN FRIENDS OF SOME OF MY CLOSE RELATIVES COME TO VISIT FROM OTHERS COUNTRIES,(there is an Italian girl visiting now) THEY ARE COLLED WHATEVER NATIONALITY THEY ARE FROM, NEVER, EVER THEY CALL A GRINGO ANY OTHER PERSON THAN THE ONES FROM USA!
It could happen that if we are at a small town and the 'campesinos' hear some guys talking in German, to them is '# at +&*%#' they might call them 'Gringo'. And I said that too before.
In all the yeas that I have lived here, I have gone to Colombia sometimes from 3 to 7 months at a time!. I AM 100% COLOMBIAN!

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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goin_south says on Apr 30, 2007, 22:39:

if you weren't defectove in some way or didn't perceive yourself as defective subconsciously, you'd never ?NEED? to go to another cntinent to find a woman.

Buxunika,... there are other things, aside from, and not associated with,.......NEED,.......... that may cause one man to find himself in South America, mixing it up with the ladies.

Consider myself 'el felizafortunado'.... to have found a golden-hearted, non-puta, non-gold-diggin....blah, blah, blah blah blah....

Doesn't change the fact, we, including me, all here, are defective and demented in a few ways. (Please don't tell 'er)

HEY!!! YER NOT TAKING OUT AN AD IN 'EL TIEMPO' TO REPORT US ALL, ARE YA???

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Man Tequila says on Apr 30, 2007, 23:49:

I've never met anyone who wasn't defective in SOME way, except for some of the posters on this board, of course. Perhaps even a few of them may even concede not everyone goes to Colombia looking for easy sex or views the world in such vivid black and white.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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aztec says on May 1, 2007, 05:56:

skinnypuppy Why don't you go somewhere else to play? We really don't need your smart ass remarks here!

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Cerealkiller says on May 1, 2007, 05:58:

haha Skinnypuppy, I admit to having no life from 9 to 5 pm...I go to uni sometimes but yeah, youre right. Most people here are anything but well-adjusted, but can you blame us? I spend my days here and on facebook...At least I dont go to Colombia for pussy!!!! :D

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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David in Idaho says on May 1, 2007, 06:13:

BxUnica, that was typical of the stupid crap people like to say on PBH. But I think you are only addressing a portion (and probably a minority) of the Americans (and other gringos) who find love in Colombia. You don't take into account the guys who do well with the gringas, but have come to the inevitable conclusion that our culture produces damn few decent women anymore. Sorry gringa posters - I'm sure you're great people - I have lots of gringa friends, but wouldn't want to date ANY of them. Nope. So you see BxUnica, some of us have found our wives in Colombia because we feel that these women are superior, NOT because we are defective. Then again, if I feel the need to log onto this site in order to defend the voice of reason against naive people like you, I supppose I must be defective in some profound way. BTW, Rocinante, I'm surprised you agree with him - you're usually such level headed and insightful poster, and I always value your input. You're not defective too, are you?

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frankdeboca says on May 1, 2007, 15:33:

Lot's of advice here I see... I would say from my experiences in Colombia that offers in clubs of a major city can be 50/50 if you are good looking. In the end you just have to use judgement. Same as here in the states... if she likes you in a place where you appear to be a "regular guy" then you have a chance for a real woman... on the other hand in a club dressed to kill you look like a lottery ticket on two legs and you can't really blame them for trying to win that lottery now can ya' ?

Just relax and enjoy yourself - if you hook up - great! If something more comes from it - better! If you go looking to get a wife than you will definitely waste your time. Relax and enjoy the ride man... if you get a wife one day there- cool. Don't sweat the details.

~The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering...

~The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering...

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David in Idaho says on May 1, 2007, 16:28:

Espero tu respuesta Rocinante Como siemrpe, tus palabras valen mucho.

PD ¿Por qué escribimos en español por este lado del sitio?

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Lisa Zee says on May 1, 2007, 16:58:

Rocinante I am ok if UR OK :] LOL. And lets just remember that when we say Colombia, there are many places!
When my son {mi gringito bello,lindo!} was 3 y/o we landed in Bogota and I said we have to fly now to another city. {I always said Colombia this ,Colombia that, we are going to Colombia.} And he said "how many Colombians are there Mommy?".... Tan lindo mi Gringito!

La vida sera' contigo tan justa como lo eres con los dema's.

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aztec says on May 2, 2007, 06:47:

rocinante, been in and out... ...of Colombia for 17+ years and have heard the gringo referred to many times. Albeit in a respectful manner. Not at all like some other country where the term is used as a derogatory term.

Most Colombians are not aware the term as heard by most North Americans has been thrown at them as an insult by natives of another country. indeed, Colombians many times use the term as an endearment. For instance, my Gringito.

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elreydelostrolls says on May 2, 2007, 17:15:

Only a Colombian would use it as an endearment knowing how gringos feel about being called gringos. You may as well be dropping the N bomb as far as I am concerned. Of course they're so self-centered I don't think they'd give a damm.

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seacritter says on May 22, 2007, 09:17:

Very spirited thread... So far, I've learned that the term gringo is for the average looking white guy that looks like he speaks some other language. It can be used as a slur or a compliment. It is the same as me calling a Columbiano a latino. I live in Panama, next door so to speak, and here they called the orientals chinos, blacks negros and such.

As to defective or whatever... I think that Columbian women are some of the most beautiful in the world. I always prefer to date beautiful women.

There are many Columbianas working in Panama. I was speaking with a very beautiful one last night, and she said that she is here because she was having great difficulty finding work in Medillin. The wage for the average unskilled laborer is $7/day. Which is only $1 lower than where I live, here in Panama. But, at least she is working...

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CaptainHowdy says on May 22, 2007, 10:45:

No way!! In Colombia, its normal for a 50 year old guy to ask out an 18 year old girl.

By morphus at Tue, 05/01/2007 - 18:52

Morphus, I hate to question someone who knows Colombia like you, but it is really "normal" or is it just "acceptable?" And, do the 18 year olds actually accept and go out with a 40-50 yr old dude? All I'm really seeking is a bit more clarification. This sounds a bit extreme to me, but, like I said, you know Colombia far better than I do.

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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lockheed says on May 22, 2007, 11:38:

Same thing everywhere I have seen pre pagos everywhere it's just that in Colombia someone has already pointed them out to you or someone has alredy give you the general discriptions and symptoms. Venezuela prepagos everywhere, Punto Fijo is a complete whore house, Indochina, Russia, Holland alot of dutch girls, Spain. I saw a survey that in Spain the most prepagos are Spainiards, followed by Portugees and then brazilians, The EAST Block, U.S.A. , sometimes woman don,t prepago in their hometown, they go elswhere. It's human nature, supply and demand,economics, Nicole Smith banged older man for money. I do think in Colombia that sex is something less of a taboo. But que viva la p...ria.

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aztec says on May 22, 2007, 12:38:

its normal for a 50 year old guy to ask out an 18 year old girl. CaptainHowdy, I have seen it. It is so incongruent that I am amazed everyone seems to consider it normal. It is not the gringo either! You can see a very old Colombian with a very young girl.

When I see it I remark to my wife that the situation must be father and daughter. Sometimes yes. Most times not the case.

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CaptainHowdy says on May 22, 2007, 13:19:

My friend... My friend in Colombia told me that the 56 year old father of her friend has a 13 year old living with him. The 13 year old liked all the gifts he was buying her and decided to move in with him. Now, I'm guessing THIS is not the norm???
Why would a sweet, beautiful Colombiana be with a viejo? Is it security? Material items? Culture? What????

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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CaptainHowdy says on May 23, 2007, 10:59:

Hahahaha!!! Well, I guess that explains it!!! Short, simple, and straight to the point! Anyone care to debate this conclusion!!!???

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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CaptainHowdy says on May 23, 2007, 17:10:

I guess not!!!!! Hhmmmm....

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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Rio_Sul says on Mar 7, 2008, 22:33:

I am average looking (but in pretty good shape). I even had a girlfriend and apartment in Cali for a year. Been to Colombia about 17 or 18 times (lost count). Also Brasil at least 12 times. My only problem has been TOO MANY WOMEN! Everywhere I go I meet them. Taxi drivers try to hitch me up with sister in laws, women at hotels, on the street, in malls, small towns, etc. I have had so many problems trying to "lose" one, so I can meet another as planned. I suspect the women handing out their phone numbers is normal. I even had one give me her phone number while working at Chipichapi Mall in Cali (Name Victoria) AND ON HER CELL PHONE SPEAKING WITH HER BRITISH BOYFRIEND! I had Elaine in Brasil speak with a boyfriend while in my apartment and another time while laying with me on the beach. I think they just want the best "deal" they can get. Good luck. Dennis

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