Colombian changing her name after the wedding... how to do it?
Hi
I am a colombian who is going to get married in the US and I want to change my name after my wedding.
I wonder if any of you (or your colombian wifes) has gone through this process before. I just dont really know how do you do with your passport and all of your colombian documentation.
Thanks
Silvia
By silviat on May 21, 2005, 13:15 in Friendly Talkzone.
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ColombiaBoard says on May 22, 2005, 07:00:
Changing name I´m not a colombian wife...but the process is something like this...you have to appear before a colombian judge and state your intention to change your name, then you have to go throught the really huge process of changing ALL your documents, that means lots of weeks at the Notaria, at the Registro Civil and other government offices, you have to change your passport and then your american visa... as you can see it can be a really big slow process.
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sandramoreno80 says on May 22, 2005, 07:27:
Silviat, is it really worth all that hassle? I mean what alot of red tape for a name change in Colombia. I can only tell you about my mother's own experience.
She's Colombian and she got married in England with my dad who's also Colombian. She holds a Colombian passport. Her passport is in the names that she was born with, she has never had it altered. Every time she has a new passport the Colombian Consulate put a note in saying that she is married to my dad.
So in Colombia she is Liliana Valencia married to Carlos Moreno, just like any other modern Colombian couple. Does anyone but elderly couples use the De... surname anymore in Colombia?
But obviously we live in England, and my parents marriage certificate was enough for her legal life here in England, she's Mrs Moreno, as is her bank, her payslips, her insurance, her driving license etc.
Pero ahora que van a aplicar por la ciudadania Britanica, lo hara con el apellido Moreno, pero nunca cambiaria el Passaport Colombiano, ni su registro civil, ni su cedula, para que? Ante todos en Colombia ella nacio Valencia y el hecho de casarse no tiene porque cambiarlo.
Lo unico que estoy diciendo es que se puede vivir tranquilamente con una pasaporte con su nombre de nacimiento, como es el costumbre Colombiano. Ya cuando adquieras el pasaporte extranjero se puede poner en su nombre de casada como es el costumbre de EE.UU o Inglaterra, y eso solo se necesita el certificado del matrimonio.
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rash9000 says on May 22, 2005, 12:44:
Why do you want to change your name?
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silviat says on May 23, 2005, 08:20:
thanks Hey thanks for the information... yes it does sound like a very complicated process... I didnt know it was that hard. I will try to contact the consulate and see if there is any alternative way.
Sandra, so it isnt problematic at all for your mother to have her passport About having the colombian documentation with valencia and then the english one with moreno?
Rash9000... I would like to change for a couple personal reasons, first because I like the idea of having my husbands name (I may sound traditional in that one but its just my preference... I would have taken the de ... if I would get married in colombia) and second because it is a tradition in his family to take the husbands name.
I know lots of persons dont agree with it but thats fine... I do.
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silviat says on May 23, 2005, 08:23:
oops correccion Sandra... no es un problema para tu madre que tenga su documentacion colombiana con el apellido Valencia y la inglesa con el apellido moreno?
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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 23, 2005, 08:36:
Silviat, Yo tengo mi documentacion colombiana con mi apellido de soltera y toda mi documentacion britanica con el apellido de casada, es mas facil asi. Mi pasaporte Ingles esta con el nombre de Casada. El colombiano se me vencio hace muchos años y no lo he renovado. En colombia yo todo lo firmo con mi nombre de soltera, mis propiedades estan con mi nombre de soltera y no habido ningun problema.
My english surname is what they call here in the UK a double barrel surname so is to long to sign. hehe
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sandramoreno80 says on May 23, 2005, 10:09:
Silviat ella nunca ha tenido ninguna problema. Como mi mama aun no tiene la ciudadania Britanica, todo que requiere demostracion oficial de la identificacion se hace atraves de su pasaporte Colombiano (que demuestra la foto) y la diferencia del nombre se explica presentando el certificado del matrimonio original.
Mi mama cuando se hace Britanica, tendra su pasaporte con el apellido de casada como hace Kat1, porque aqui es conocida por el Moreno.
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silviat says on May 23, 2005, 11:07:
que amables Hey chicas que amables por darme toda esta informacion, gracias gracias... en realidad uno se siente un poco perdido con todo este paperwork que hay que hacer!
abrazos
Silvia
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ARMacleod says on May 23, 2005, 15:41:
Easy Why do people complicate things?
In the UK anyone may change their name by simply submitting a 'deed Poll' this is a form which you may make out yourself, or you can get one from any solicitors office. You simply renounce the present name and state the name that you wish to be known by.
You have to inform all persons who have the right to know your new name, i.e. banks you deal with, passport office, debtors, creditors, and the parasitic lawyers and inland revenue of course. That's it. Easy.
In the USA, I don't know, but generally English law of this nature is accepted in the USA. (they are mostly British after all). I have submitted a copy of the one I used, Use it if you wish.
By this Deed I, Your new name
Formerly known as Your old name your address
Do Solemnly and Sincerely Declare
as follows:
1. I was formerly called and was addressed as Your old name and I am a citizen of (your country) by birth.
2. I absolutely and entirely renounce relinquish and abandon the use of my former name of Your old name and assume adopt and determine to take and use the names of Your new name in substitution of my former name.
3. I shall at all times hereof in all records, deeds, documents and other writings and in all actions and proceedings as well as in all dealings and transactions and on all occasions whatsoever use and subscribe the said name of
Your new name in substitution of my former names of
Your old name so relinquished as aforesaid to the intent that I may hereafter be called or known or distinguished not by my former names of
Your old name, but by the names of Your new name only.
4. I authorise and require all persons at all times to designate and describe me by the adopted names of Your new name.
5. In witness whereof I have here unto subscribed my former and adopted names of
Your old name and Your new name and affixed my signature
This ....................................day of ..................................... 20 .......
Signed by the above named as a Deed and delivered
Your new name .................................................................{new signature}
Your old name ......................................................................{old signature}
In the presence of :...............................................................................{witness signature}
Of:
......................................................................
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......................................................................
Obviously you will have to tidy it up as the download to PBH is warped.
Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions."¡El diablo me hizo hacerlo!" But don't worry, be happy.
The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum.
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ARMacleod says on May 23, 2005, 15:42:
Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions."¡El diablo me hizo hacerlo!" But don't worry, be happy.
The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum.
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ARMacleod says on May 23, 2005, 15:53:
Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions."¡El diablo me hizo hacerlo!" But don't worry, be happy.
The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum.
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silviat says on May 23, 2005, 21:59:
thannnnkkkkks Yeah hopefully americans accept the english way in that one.
Thanks alot for taking the time for giving me that info!
:)
Silvia
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silviat says on May 25, 2005, 23:26:
guidance from the Consulate (if anyone has to go through this) Apreciada Silvia:
Tendrías dos opciones:
1. Estampar en su pasaporte el sello de cambio de estado civil. En donde figura el nombre y apellido de tu cónyuge y la fecha y lugar de matrimonio. Para esto tendrías que traer al Consulado el registro de matrimonio americano, cedula de ciudadania, pasaporte y copia auténtica de tu Registro de Nacimiento expedido no mas de 6 meses.
2. O realizar el cambio de nombre definitivo en tu cedula de ciudadanía que requiere rectificar tu cedula (proceso que dura 1 año-por cambio de estado civil) y despues sacar pasaporte con tu nueva cedula.
Atentamente
Andres Ceballos
Consulado General de Colombia en Houston
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acpm69 says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:35:
Hey Silvia,
What did you finally do?
All my American documents have my new last name but my passport still has my maiden name.
I was planning on waiting the 3 years to get my American citizenship because it sounds like a pain in the a** to change my Colombian passport.
However, I was curious to know if you did the stamp thing and if it is valid to travel... I would like to have everything set up with my new last name to take advantage of my frequent flier miles.
Let me know... would ya?
Colombianita
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acpm69 says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:46:
Oh by the way Silvia, if you decide to change your Colombian last name, it is FOREVER, according to Colombian laws you can change your name just once in your lifetime...
There is no problem whatsoever to get in and out of the US if your passport and green card have different last names, they just check that the photos are the same.
I don't know what kind of documentation you had before your marriage, I changed from a tourist visa to a permanent resident status, didn't need any additional documentation to change my last name, just filled up all the applications with my new last name, no deed or anything else was needed.
Colombianita
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john_stark says on Jan 13, 2008, 18:24:
I'm with Sandra Moreno. My wife never changed her name and everything has been fine. It seems to me leaving it alone is a lot less hassle than changing it. Also the custom in Colombia is to leave it alone.
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