Colombian Bishops against reelection of Uribe

makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Aug 21, 2009, 04:01:

tasco66 says on Aug 21, 2009, 05:21:

Don't lefties hate the church?

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Aug 21, 2009, 05:22:

ferran says on Aug 21, 2009, 07:49:

Colombia is too involved with the USA to take steps back with the guerilla, no matter who is elected, plan Colombia will still be in place with a strong military presence, now you know why the USA will be using Colombian military bases, they want to secure their investment.

All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.

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ferran says on Aug 21, 2009, 08:01:

Azu, I been trying to get in touch with Don Toribio, they told me he went up the mountain to do some coffee business, they also suspect he has a girl friend up in the mountains, I will try again, he has been away for a few days.

wait a minute, I think I got him on yahoo live messenger.

All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.

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kingfish5515 says on Aug 21, 2009, 09:50:

The catholic church has its job and place which is saving souls, marrying and burying, and christening babies ect ect. Their job 200- 500 years ago was saving souls along with meddling in politics before the advent of the modern political systems, democracy and even other systems. Often in out of the way places years ago they were the total government. But now, 200 plus years later, they just cant give up meddling in politics, and usually in a left wing manner, whenever they can take time off from saving the alter boys from a life of heterosexuality. This could be 2 of several reasons the catholic church is dwindling. These bishops should just move to VEN and try to meddle in Hugos politics and see how well they are received there. I doubt if Uribe puts much thought in what they want him to do. I pray Uribe holds on many more years!!!

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Haddeman says on Aug 21, 2009, 10:38:

I'll never forget the former Archbishop of the Phillipines,his name was Cardinal Sin.

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Aji1 says on Aug 21, 2009, 12:36:

RCC is the Roman Empire 2000 years after Cesar. IMHO

I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

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cali1010 says on Aug 21, 2009, 13:52:

I just don't understand why religious figures get involved in politics....don't they have millions of souls that need saving first?

Ignorance does not discriminate race, age nor gender

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capt_j says on Aug 21, 2009, 15:37:

While we're on the subject of the next president of Colombia, does anybody have an opinion on German Vargas Lleras, Cambio Radical and Seguridad Integral? It sounds interesting but I don't know much about it.

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cali1010 says on Aug 21, 2009, 15:43:

Can anyon expand on this? German Vargas Lleras, Cambio Radical and Seguridad Integral? Educate us please.

Ignorance does not discriminate race, age nor gender

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dwmte7 says on Aug 21, 2009, 16:42:

if it's anything like the repentent souls who left m-19 i.e. navarro wolfe et al, don't look for much.

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patriarch

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Rikito says on Aug 21, 2009, 18:11:

Why are these so called prominent Colombian bishops getting involved with politics? It is none of their f...ing business. As has been said already, their job is to administer to the laity of the church and not whether or not Uribe should be president or not. Do you ever wonder why the Catholic Church in Latin America is going in the toilet? Well, this is one obvious reason.

...and so it goes

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dwmte7 says on Aug 22, 2009, 07:13:

well, brother (rikito) i wouldn't hold my breath for that any time soon. the church in latin america IS POLITICS.
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patriarch

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timeforachangeofscenery says on Aug 22, 2009, 08:48:

The social contract of separation of church and state is supposed to be in place because it is universally accepted that the strictly rational thinking of the government puts matters of religion and worship strictly beyond their sphere of control.

How would the church like it if the government suddenly started legislating on matters involving faith and prayer ?

For the church to suddenly rear up and offer opinions on matters of government policy is unacceptable.

The church should stick to their knitting and leave the running of the county to those empowered by the people to do so.

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dwmte7 says on Aug 22, 2009, 09:31:

".........he said his name was capn kidd and i just said, good luck" bob dylan

patriarch

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cali1010 says on Aug 22, 2009, 15:17:

I'm under the concept that religion is bad in certain ways (No disrespect to anyone here, nor am I attacking anyone's religious beliefs). For one, they have no right to me medalling in political affairs...I don't recall Mother Teresa a (true saint in my views) ever getting involved in political affairs. She cared for the poor and never asked for anything in return. Now we have bishops that oppose Uribe, but it does not stop here...there also bishops that support the coup and pinochelleti's government in Honduras. Another is the bishop of Bolivia who opposes the government of Bolivia.

Ignorance does not discriminate race, age nor gender

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 22, 2009, 15:21:

Douglas...he said his name was Columbus and I just said good luck

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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cali1010 says on Aug 22, 2009, 15:47:

Any kind of extreme views wether it be from the left or right are wrong. Every human being should have the righ to live as they want to live, without any one or any system try to impose their beliefs.

Ignorance does not discriminate race, age nor gender

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lpdiver says on Aug 22, 2009, 16:05:

"Well, I got back and took
The parkin' ticket off the mast
I was ripping it to shreds
When this coastguard boat went past
They asked me my name
And I said, "Captain Kidd"
They believed me but
They wanted to know
What exactly that I did
I said for the Pope of Eruke
I was employed
They let me go right away
They were very paranoid

Well, the last I heard of Arab
He was stuck on a whale
That was married to the deputy
Sheriff of the jail
But the funniest thing was
When I was leavin' the bay
I saw three ships a-sailin'
They were all heading my way
I asked the captain what his name was
And how come he didn't drive a truck
He said his name was Columbus
I just said, "Good luck."

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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dwmte7 says on Aug 22, 2009, 21:54:

thanks, gang.....see what age does.

patriarch

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 23, 2009, 02:27:

....and....
it's "Ahab" not Arab.
(Sometimes it's a pain too know too much)

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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dwmte7 says on Aug 23, 2009, 05:20:

actually, dear, it's 'ahab the arab'........je je

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Aug 23, 2009, 05:23:

to back that up.....

patriarch

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