BOGOTA, Colombia -- This year's version of Colombia's least glamorous beauty pageant pitted a drug smuggler against a robber and a Marxist guerrilla.
The winner, from Cellblock No. 4, was Yury Uribe, currently serving five years at Good Shepherd Prison after she was arrested trying to board a plane with half a kilo of heroin in her stomach. She wore a jeweled top and slit skirt in the prison pageant.
Beauty and competitive pageants are national obsessions in Colombia. Annual telecasts of the Miss World and Miss Universe competitions draw ratings on par with World Cup soccer matches. They typically feature beauty experts who discuss the candidates' attributes and handicap the chances of Miss Colombia.
Yet even by Colombian standards, the competition at the country's largest female prison is unusual. It takes place each September in honor of the Virgin of Mercedes, patron saint of prisoners. Inmates see it as welcome relief from the boredom and loneliness of life behind bars.
"We can forget our problems for one day and just enjoy the party," says contestant Amarli Perez, 24, who is accused of trying to assassinate Colombia's president in a bombing that left 15 dead.
In the pageant, Perez represented her fellow Marxist guerrillas from Cellblock No. 6. She wore a revealing swimsuit-and-peacock-tail combination to impress the judges but wasn't one of the two finalists.
Salsa and reggaeton music filled the air as dozens of Good Shepherd inmates marched in processions that led the contestants from their cells to a stage in the prison courtyard. Each procession had a theme: The women from Uribe's cellblock dressed as ancient Egyptians; rivals from another block dressed as angels.
One finalist, Heidy Leon, 20, was joined in the procession by her mother, Diana, 34, also a Good Shepherd inmate. Both are serving 16 months for armed robbery and await trial on other charges, including assaulting police officers.
"The police say I shot at them resisting arrest, but this is not true. It was the police who shot me," Heidy Leon said during a break in the competition. Wearing a sparkling tiara and white evening gown, she held up her left hand to show the entry and exit wounds left from the bullet that struck her.
In addition to showing off their looks, the competitors answered questions for the judges -- mostly popular Colombian singers and soap opera stars who agreed to pick the prison beauty queen.
Questions to the contestants dealt with prison life: how it could be improved and what the contestants hoped to do once they regained their freedom. Most of Good Shepherd's 1,000 inmates attended, waving placards of support and clapping wildly for the beauties from their cellblocks.
Uribe, 20, was nervous before she took the stage but ultimately won. She accepted the crown from last year's winner, a convicted murderer.
She cradled a bouquet of flowers as photographers crowded around to snap her picture. "I'm so glad I won this for my cellblock and all those who supported me," she said.
SOURCE: USA Today, Oct. 4, 2005
By platano on Oct 27, 2005, 00:05 in Friendly Talkzone.
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Tinto (Moderator) says on Oct 27, 2005, 05:35: A 20 yr old female and her 34 yr old mother, both of them in the big house. Hmmm, giving birth at age 14 and leading a life of crime. More of those angelic Colombians and their traditional, superior family values we hear so much about. Hehe.
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lucky says on Oct 27, 2005, 06:36: Incredible... I found the article on USA Today's website. There is a very small picture of the winner.
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Colombiche says on Oct 27, 2005, 06:49: "More of those angelic Colomb "More of those angelic Colombians and their traditional, superior family values we hear so much about. Hehe." No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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cochopechocho says on Oct 27, 2005, 07:18: Here you go Greenday.... http://www.meet-an-inmate.com/
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Tinto (Moderator) says on Oct 27, 2005, 09:52: Same thing in Peru www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=456&sid=581314
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Hunter says on Oct 27, 2005, 12:45: Tinto I (and probably many others), guessed what you were refering to, but some PBhers are very thin skinned.
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pepster says on Oct 27, 2005, 12:54: Right on Tinto ""Hi, I'm an old goat who wants to go to Colombia to find a traditional woman, blah, blah, blah." The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:00: Ironically Hunter The Americans who keep telling Colombians to be thick skinned about Colombia bashing, happen to be the thinnest skinned when somebody makes an anti US comment. They go on and on, cracking jokes about Colombia, making whores of all the women, gigolos of all the men... but if somebody makes the slightest anti-US comment, they get all patriotic, "star spangled bannered" on us. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:07: Colombiche Let's just declare that everything is fair game! The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:08: ... All this time I though miss Universe, the mother of all pageants was an American invention. Now I find out it is Venezuelan, or Colombian... or something. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:11: Colombiche Nice try Colombiche. This is the same country that doesn't even carry Miss America on TV. Just because we own it doesn't mean we're obsessed with it. Hey, baseball is as American as it comes, but it's a bigger obsession in the Dominican Republic and Japan. The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:11: If everything is fair game Pep Then stop getting all pissy when you read the "What I don't like about America" threads. I notice you are one of the people that gets the most offended around this forum. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:13: Ha ha ha! Sure, that is why the US calls their baseball tournament "The World Series", eventhough only American and a couple of Canadian teams participate. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:13: Because of you... I was only getting pissy because I found some posters (one of them was you), a bit self-righteous. Now that I find that you may be hip...hey let's open up! The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:14: Ouch Good one...a bit off the mark. But good one Colombiche. The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:21: I'm not self righteous I just happen to be the minority (A colombian woman), in a page where most of the topics are dominated by North American males and I happen to read perfect English so I catch everything... of course, the things that are said about us (colombianas) hit me harder because I happen to be one, to you guys it is all a joke, often a dirty one. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:22: Pepster I have no doubts that you must be a nice guy in real life, we don't see eye to eye on many issues, but I am not discrediting you as a person. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 27, 2005, 13:40: Colombiche I have a gorgeous little 6 year old neice. Her father is a paisa and her mother is my sister. I adore her to death and would hate to see her objectified and ridiculed. Everytime I joke around, behaving like a pig, my sister always pipes up..."hey, you have a neice". The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Hunter says on Oct 27, 2005, 15:00: COLOMBICHE There was no mention of solely Colombians being thin skinned, as to the US bashing, I sometimes get sick of it, because this is a primary a site about Colombia, not the US, where I don't happen to be from.
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Rubiazo says on Oct 27, 2005, 20:21: Colombiche at least you don't live in some country where a woman's only career options are housewife and prostitute! Although in Colombia, you would have better pay equity with your male counterparts! Unfortunately, they accomplish that one by paying everyone like caca!
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Colombiche says on Oct 28, 2005, 06:36: Rubiazo I don't think anybody should bash anybody's country. I think we should all be respecful of each other's countries. Healthy criticism is okay, I am one who critizes Colombia when I have to, I don't idealize my country by any means, I don't have blinders on, I think Colombia has good things that Canada lacks, but Canada has many good things that Colombia lacks. No place is perfect. No place can claim to have it ALL. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 28, 2005, 08:48: Estoy de acuerdo contigo, Colombiche. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 28, 2005, 12:45: just out of curiosity which country were you referring to, rubi? (where a woman's only career choice was to be a housewife or a prostitute) "When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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kernow62 says on Oct 28, 2005, 13:07: I don't think Rubi was actually saying that, I think he was being a bit sarcastic in reference to what others have posted. I mean his girlfriend lives in Colombia, I don't reckon he thinks she is a whore or a housewife.
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Rubiazo says on Oct 28, 2005, 13:33: I actually kinda meant it Kernow and Desi, if you go to the Dominican Republic, a very large portion of the women who work there are expected to sleep with people for the going rate. For example, I could take you to a local McDonalds in Santiago, DR where you can walk right out with the cashiers, after paying the appropriate fees. Many receptionists have the same unofficial job description, they are expected to be available for their bosses, the r bosses' friends etc.
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 28, 2005, 14:05: That's interesting, Rubaizo. How come you never hear of the DR as being a big sex tourism destination? So basically any woman from the DR is a ho? Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 28, 2005, 14:08: Utopiacowboy "How come you never hear of the DR as being a big sex tourism destination?" The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 28, 2005, 14:10: What can I say? I guess I've been living under a rock. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 28, 2005, 14:14: Grammar I'm a thrill seeker. I live on the grammatical edge! The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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BxUnika says on Oct 28, 2005, 16:29: at Colombiche "I just happen to be the minority (A colombian woman), in a page where most of the topics are dominated by North American males and I happen to read perfect English so I catch everything... of course, the things that are said about us (colombianas) hit me harder because I happen to be one, to you guys it is all a joke, often a dirty one."
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BxUnika says on Oct 28, 2005, 16:35: at Rubiazo "at least you don't live in some country where a woman's only career options are housewife and prostitute! Although in Colombia, you would have better pay equity with your male counterparts! Unfortunately, they accomplish that one by paying everyone like caca!"
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BxUnika says on Oct 28, 2005, 16:44: Ok... "For example, I could take you to a local McDonalds in Santiago, DR where you can walk right out with the cashiers, after paying the appropriate fees."
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Rubiazo says on Oct 28, 2005, 16:45: I actually really love the DR but they have some SERIOUS problems to deal with in that country. Right now they are headed straight for perdition if they don't wise up and claw their way up out of it.
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cam0940 says on Oct 28, 2005, 17:15: For whatever differences in opinion/viewpoint I may have had with Colombiche or Bx, you have to respect them. They present intelligent arguments that I appreciate. You don't have to agree to appreciate your opponent in a debate.
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 28, 2005, 17:18: Thanks for that clarification, Rubiazo. I guess they figure work is work including work you do flat on your back. So it sounds like most of the women who are in the workforce are potential hos if not actual hos. Have you spent a lot of time there? Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 28, 2005, 21:18: Did some research on the internet and there's even a book about it. Mira: Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 28, 2005, 21:22: Damm, here is another one that I came across, this time talking about sex tourism in Jamaica where middle-aged WOMEN are buying it! Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 29, 2005, 09:52: Rubiazo My university degrees are not meant to impress, you or anybody else. Not even myself. They are pieces of paper that say to me: No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 29, 2005, 10:01: Prostitution in Less Developed Countries... I would hesitate to refer to prostitutes as "hos". Who knows the sad stories behind these girls lives. AS you guys banged these girls, many of them were probably far away, lost in their thoughts, waiting for you to blow your load fast and get your sweaty ass off of them, budgeting what they were going to buy their kids with the 20 dollars you gave them before they took off their clothes for you. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 29, 2005, 11:37: colombiche, This is something I've been trying to get across with no success for every thread where prostitution is mentioned. The guys who defend this what they call "the oldest profession in the world" are always saying that the women engaged in this do it because they like it! While there is everything in the viña del senor as the saying goes, I have always had very serious doubts about that. I don't believe it's the oldest profession either neither do I believe in the myth of the happy hooker. "When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 29, 2005, 13:18: I guess you missed the Jamaica story that I posted above, Desi. How do you explain that one? Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 29, 2005, 13:38: How do I explain Jamaica? It's not a mystery. Women from USA, Canada, Europe have been doing this for ages. What these guys are loking for is a meal ticket and they're willing to sell their bods for it. It's the same old story, only reversed. I feel sorry for them too, just as I feel sorry for the women engaged in prostitution. "When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 29, 2005, 13:42: Lots of white ladies Love to go to Jamaica, they like to eat morcilla, LOL. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 29, 2005, 13:46: Fair enough, Desi. I must admit that I found it surprising but then I've been living under a rock. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 29, 2005, 13:52: Not Humiliating.... Maybe I am old fashioned, but to me the act of allowing somebody to be inside of you is like the ultimate display of love. What else is there? Your body is your temple, your boundary, where you live while you exists on this earh. I am not saying sex is always about love or anything like that, there are many levels to it...but it must be rough to allow people into your body for a few measly bucks. As a woman, I feel that if I had to do that, I would have to psyche myself to stop thinking what the hell I am doing to myself. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 29, 2005, 14:15: For the Record I have absolutely no problem with prostitution. The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 29, 2005, 14:21: I know this is controversial but I'd go as far as to say that any woman/man who marries for money is prostituting her/himself. "When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 29, 2005, 14:27: Desideria Bingo... The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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caslug says on Oct 29, 2005, 14:32: what about porn? you have two adults getting PAID to have sex.. so people at home could enjoy it! What about movies, you have two adults getting paid to KISS or HOLD hands to audience can enjoy it.
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cochopechocho says on Oct 29, 2005, 14:45: I'm totally against prostitution..... I believe that it is totally immoral and a waste of life.
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 29, 2005, 15:43: what about marrying a tall Swede so you'll have somebody who can reach up to the ceiling to change the lightbulb? Is that prostitution? "When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 29, 2005, 16:12: Good response, Colombiche. De acuerdo. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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cochopechocho says on Oct 29, 2005, 16:15: True love however you define it is a good reason to get married. Reasons for getting married are hard to quantify especially across cultural lines. But, It should never be has simplistic as I like to have sex with him or her or monetary considerations.
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pepster says on Oct 29, 2005, 16:35: perhaps "In my book there is little difference between someone that would marry only for money or someone that marries simply because they are physically attracted to another" The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 29, 2005, 16:56: Pepster You equate "physical attraction" with being in love? Marrying on the premise of physical attraction is not being in love. It is lust. When the bubble bursts you have nothing more. If you are with somebody just because they are beautiful, it is safe to assume that if they had an accident and became horribly disfigured, you would walk away. Or, once they start aging, you are going to trade them in for a younger model. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 29, 2005, 17:29: Of course when you are in love, there is a tremendous physical attraction. The other day I picked my wife up after work and she looked like someone who had had a hard day of working, her hair was frazzled and she just looked worn out. She asked me if I thought she was a mess and I told her no, to me she looked beautiful. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pepster says on Oct 29, 2005, 18:18: Colombiche "You equate "physical attraction" with being in love? Marrying on the premise of physical attraction is not being in love. It is lust. When the bubble bursts you have nothing more. If you are with somebody just because they are beautiful, it is safe to assume that if they had an accident and became horribly disfigured, you would walk away. Or, once they start aging, you are going to trade them in for a younger model." The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Rubiazo says on Oct 29, 2005, 19:05: Hmm, interesting conversation, First off Desi, you are going off half-cocked. You already admitted you don't know any prostitutes personally. I know legions of them. I really don't buy the 'economic necessity' argument. I don't know a single sex pro who couldn't go out and take some shitty retail job any day they wanted to. It's not about having to survive, it's about wanting more than just bare survival!
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cam0940 says on Oct 29, 2005, 19:10: Whatever happened to old fashioned compatibility? Compatibility doesn't necessarily care about how much money I have or she has, doesn't necessarily depend on how good she looks or doesn't look, it's a chemistry. Speaking of looks, there used to be a saying "the prettier the grittier" because the pretty girls are more prone to use their looks to manipulate the guy and, being pretty, she has more likely had everything in life handed to her on a silver platter. She's more prone to be high maintenance and spoiled. So for physical attraction, sure it's important (even necessary) but it's far from the most important factor. For me, "Cute and Humble" trumps "Gorgeous with an Attitude" anyday.
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cam0940 says on Oct 29, 2005, 19:16: But on sex workers, Rubiazo and I disagree because I think pros, hoes, whatever you want to call them are (no offense Rub) stank.
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Rubiazo says on Oct 29, 2005, 19:32: Pretty few people on Earth can earn what a good pro earns. ESPECIALLY in Colombia and even more especially in the DR! People's ideas of what they "need" are a little fucked up sometimes. You don't "need" to send your kids to private school. You don't "need" a car, or to shop at Gap or Studio F or go to McDonalds or have a cellphone etc.
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cam0940 says on Oct 29, 2005, 19:40: True, but have you ever tried to explain the difference between "need" and "want" to a woman? No offense ladies but women usually have a "standard". Now, that standard might be the Chinese restaurant eating out. If they can't afford that, the pressure/stress/discomfort can be just as real as what you or I might define as "needs".
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pepster says on Oct 29, 2005, 20:04: Rubiazo I was going to mention Celine...but by the time she married that old goat...she was already loaded. The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Rubiazo says on Oct 29, 2005, 20:21: Cam that was a BIG part of why I'm divorced today. I see no reason to live in the USA unless you are going to get ahead financially and make something out of all the hard work and struggle. That's also why I have chosen to continue the relationship with my gf in Bogota against all odds, because she is so NOT like that. She has her priorities straight, and doesn't mind sacrificing in other areas to take care of them. So few people, North OR South American, male or female, are in her boat these days.
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calipro says on Oct 29, 2005, 21:03: pepster "...or marrying up equals WHORE."
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BxUnika says on Oct 30, 2005, 00:43: "Jinetera" "I would hesitate to refer to prostitutes as "hos". Who knows the sad stories behind these girls lives. AS you guys banged these girls, many of them were probably far away, lost in their thoughts, waiting for you to blow your load fast and get your sweaty ass off of them, budgeting what they were going to buy their kids with the 20 dollars you gave them before they took off their clothes for you."
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BxUnika says on Oct 30, 2005, 00:50: at Desi "The guys who defend this what they call "the oldest profession in the world" are always saying that the women engaged in this do it because they like it!"
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BxUnika says on Oct 30, 2005, 00:53: at Pepster "I have absolutely no problem with prostitution.
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pepster says on Oct 30, 2005, 08:55: BxUnika, The Pepster ColombianBlog.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Rubiazo says on Oct 30, 2005, 11:02: Bottom line is anybody who condemns females engaging in such 'whorish' behavior is condemning a LARGE part of the female population, and not a small chunk of the male population either! I think sex for money is a lot more honest and realistic AND constructive than the quagmire of many people's miserable excuses for marriages (my former marriage would be near the top of the list I'm sure).
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BxUnika says on Oct 30, 2005, 11:23: at Rubiazo "The two most common grounds for campaigning against people's right to buy and sell sex are public health and violence against women. Both of these are valid and serious concerns. HOWEVER, BxUnika's naive suggestion that those who are looking for NSA should go pick somebody up at a bar, unfortunately THAT poses a far FAR FAR greater risk to public health than prostitution does."
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BxUnika says on Oct 30, 2005, 11:26: Prostitutes versus Casual Sex Prostitutes are more likely to use condoms? You are more likely to get something from a regular John/Jane Doe at a bar? In these poor neighborhoods and countries where prostitutes are so prevelant somehow these women are experts of health issues and contraception yet their non-prostitute sisters of all walks of life are not and thus and up single mothers or with STDS?
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cam0940 says on Oct 30, 2005, 11:34: A lot of people say that sex with one partner for the rest of their life is a boring proposition, and that's cool. I think the pursuit of new "conquests" gets boring too after a while. It turns into the same game with different characters. Buy a drink. Meaningless conversation mixed with flirting. You're fishing for your chances of getting back to her place or maybe her coming to mine (depending on whether I cleaned up before I went out). So finally you get the girl, you handle your business, and then what? You do the same thing next weekend? That gets boring after a while too. I mean, how much ass can one man have? The answer is... ALOT. But at some stage it does get boring and the whole conquest/adventure thing doesn't mean as much anymore. And there is absolutely no conquest in buying the sex. It's much more stimulating if you can talk her into it for the cost of a Cosmopolitan and cab fare. Much more fulfilling for the ego. But even then that gets boring. But I hear you Rubiazo saying that one partner--for some people--might be boring. I think the answer is to find other facets of the relationship that make it not boring. But just to find another piece of ass... you inevitably end up sitting there looking at her thinking "I really don't like this girl. I wish she'd get off my couch and go home. Why was it so important for me to bang her in the first place?" That's boring. I feel guilty writing this, but at the same time wanted to be as honest as I could about what I'VE experienced.
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cochopechocho says on Oct 30, 2005, 11:38: Anybody having trouble believing this? Everything you have said sounds reasonalbe.
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BxUnika says on Oct 30, 2005, 12:32: Re: Cochopechocho "But just to add crediblity to your opinions, why don't you tell us how you know so much about prostitution. Are you in social work or law enforcement?"
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Rubiazo says on Oct 30, 2005, 23:00: at Unika Where did I say that i have never patronized pros? I have never said anything one way or the other, and I really don't see why it is relevant as to my opinions.
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Rubiazo says on Oct 30, 2005, 23:10: at Cam I can hear you regarding winding up in the same old routine anyways. Sure there are plenty of things you can do to alleviate the boredom with one partner, but swinging is definitely one of them!
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dwmte says on Oct 31, 2005, 04:35: bravo, colombiche, i... respect not only your insight, but, as well, your comments and observations. thanks.
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utopiacowboy says on Oct 31, 2005, 06:01: Rubiazo, I can think of one reason to stick with one woman. Condoms! I hate wearing a rubber. So I'll stick with one woman and go bareback! But each to his own. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 31, 2005, 06:19: Who is safe these days... Utopia- it is a good thing you brought up the point about going "bareback". In your case, I am sure you are a very faithful gentleman, so what I am going to say is not personally directed at you or anybody else here. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Oct 31, 2005, 06:31: Rubiazo I think the problem here is that you regard prostitution as one big pile of hay. You are not seeing the different subdivisions within the pile, to you it is all the same, it is prostitution -- period. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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