Colombian - American Marriage Success rate?

panthdave says on Aug 15, 2007, 11:26:

I was married 6 years to a Peruvian/Italian from Lima..Married at 29 and she 24...Lasted 6 years and then the divorce...Were married in Miami....She was here on a student visa finishing up college at St.Thomas in Miami..

There are so many factors.. hope somebody can pull some real numbers...

Right now in my 9 month with a girl in Medellin I am 38 and she is 27 and will be 28 in December...Not married though....I really think the world is changing and divorce rates are the same between same race or same country to different race and different country..

Good Example Now just passed 20 years marriage with a girl from Taiwan...8 years difference in age...Dad American and Stepmom Taiwan. So there that different country marriage that has been successful...and he was married to my mom before that for 4 years..which is American...or Citizen..

panthdave Miami

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miamimike says on Aug 15, 2007, 11:35:

Well if a divorce rate between 2 Americans is more or less 6:10(meaning 6 out of 10 fail) who share the same culture&Langauge fail and btw,these 6:10 also communicate very well as far as langauge(no barrier) logical reasoning would have the Divorce rate substantially higher between two people who cannot communicate profoundly in the first couple years of marriage(most importatnt period say marriage counselors) AND then if the Foreign wife comes here to the US or UK, germany, Canada she will experience Culture shock(drastic). These two alone are without doubt Deal Breakers! In my case as well as 5-6 other friends who have married Foreign women over the last 15 years-failure rate is 100%--not one of marriages survived over 3 years. One of my friends was a Cuban to peruvian marriage so no langauge barrier and even his marriage failed. He(cuban) married a 2nd foreign woman and his 2nd marriage is ready for a break-up after 7 years. Sad,,, I would like to see an accurate study on this subject, looked different times but unable to find one. I would not believe any study put forth by these Internet marriage agencies as they are biased to sell $1000 Gold Memberships!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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wendell13 says on Aug 15, 2007, 11:45:

I have the same anecdotal evidence as you miamimike. I know about a dozen and they are all divorced . Including me. That is why i decided to live here in cali. They cant get americanized that way.

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panthdave says on Aug 15, 2007, 11:56:

Agree with that aspect...Wendell....GF does not want to leave Medellin and personally I love Medellin..and works out perfect that I work in Miami...and lucky to have a job which gives me flexible time as long as I get my work done...

Looking at the future but GF and I taking our time with marriage...and maybe even Union Libre will come into play if we decide to stay together...

panthdave Miami

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scotty says on Aug 15, 2007, 13:20:

I wonder what the American married to American marriage percentages are?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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panthdave says on Aug 15, 2007, 13:35:

Has to be high .....I would think.....

panthdave Miami

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kfc2801 says on Aug 15, 2007, 14:42:

You guys know how to make a guy feel real good..................

Gringo from Georgia USA who is married blissfully to Colombian Lady.

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droble77 says on Aug 15, 2007, 14:58:

The 50% divorce rate is a myth. It's actually not as high, but still pretty high.

In reality, it's very tough statistically to pin down the divorce rate, but from what I've read, the best estimates have it around 40% in the US.

I would imagine the rates would be higher specifically for marriages between US native born citizens and foreigners.

I consider myself lucky in this regard. I once fell in love with a Cuban girl and was seriously thinking of marrying her and getting her out of Cuba. She broke off our relationship and a couple of years later, I discovered she married a French guy about 9 months after our split.

Since the timing was close, I remain suspicious of what exactly happened between us, but I can't be certain of anything because she ain't talking to me.

In any case, I'm not too mad or disappointed. Actually, I'm relieved. . . as she's someone else's problem now.

Also, I can't really blame her as in her situation, what with her dad being somewhat of a communist/fidelista, it would have been more secure for her family if she married a European.

The idea of staying in Colombia with the wifey is a very smart one. Me personally, I now like being single more than ever. My only dream now is to make some career/job shifts so I can work 9-10 months and then spend about 2-3 months in Colombia or simply ANY place outside of the USA!

My parents, God bless them, have been happily married since day one but they come from an old-fashioned milieu and a level of morality that doesn't seem to exist anymore. . .

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Valen says on Aug 15, 2007, 15:05:

Well I have been married twice here w/american guys. It was the most horrible experience ever. I would not believe it always work that way.
I also know some Colombians married w/americans and they are very happy and successful.
So is not about paper or anything like that. But if you are going to Colombia to find a woman you really have to watch out.Just becareful.
Some times some people are just looking the opportunity to get here!!!!!!

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miamimike says on Aug 15, 2007, 16:46:

There are a lot of Stats and many variables. I see in Nevadaa numbers as high as 9 out of 10 marriages fail while in Florida its 6 out of 10. Another says "Conservative Christians" have the Highest Divorce rate. LOL . Below is a Googled Stat. Interesting they say out of second marriages, 72% fail,,,Wow,,,I'm staying single with my luck,,LOL



http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=363986

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Aug 15, 2007, 16:49:

"Fifty percent of first marriages, 67 percent of second and 74 percent
of third marriages end in divorce, according to Jennifer Baker of the
Forest Institute of Professional Psychology in Springfield, Missouri.�
** my mistake--67% (not 72%)of 2nd marriages failby this Researcher's stats...

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Conchale Vale!! says on Aug 15, 2007, 20:35:

My personal observation with cross cultural marriage is this. I was married to a Filipino for 13 years. For the most part all good. The couples I knew that met their wives while living permanently in the Philippines had good relationships and are either still married or were married for relatively long periods of time before getting married. The couples we met that had met on line, or on vacation etc and only spent a couple of weeks in person together...all divorced within short periods of time. If you think about it how many guys date a gringa for a year seeing her every day and then only after she gets comfortable with you you discover the flaws. Same goes for women finding out the guy is a total loser. So it applies to other cultures as well. If you marry the Colombian girl after you went to see her twice odds are you know nothing about her and she knows nothing about you. If you live in Colombia and have a regular dating relationship for a longer period of time your odds go way up.

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john_stark says on Aug 15, 2007, 21:24:

I read that 93% of them end in divorce, 2% one partner commits suicide and 5% one partner murders the other.

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goin_south says on Aug 15, 2007, 22:58:

I think it's (marriage) about like jumping out of an airplane at 10,000 feet without a parachute....1st, ... 2nd.... 3rd....

...same feeling....jejje.... at first, trouble looks like it's pretty far away.... jJAajja!

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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goin_south says on Aug 15, 2007, 23:09:

hey codaffi... here's to LAS IMMIGRANTS....WHOEVER, WHERE EVER THEY ARE:

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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goin_south says on Aug 16, 2007, 00:39:

buenas noches....codaffi...y....

BUENAS DIAS LA_MONA_LINDA!
:)

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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rumronrum says on Aug 16, 2007, 03:14:

Yes, here is your answer..........99%

RumRonRum

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deathnova says on Aug 16, 2007, 04:32:

Conchale Vale!!

This begs the assumption that one of the parties to the relationship is infact a loser.

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john_stark says on Aug 16, 2007, 05:12:

"This begs the assumption that one of the parties to the relationship is infact a loser."

In these cases, both of them are.

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JChrisusa says on Aug 16, 2007, 06:23:

Woaw, so in conclusion...

- Don't get married to a Colombiana...

- Don't bring back a Colombiana back to the US...

hum...Though message... but that's what I wanted to know.
(I know every situation is different, but roughly everyone seems to agree that a foreign marriage is most likely gonna head south after a little while.)

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miamimike says on Aug 16, 2007, 07:15:

JC-Don't send any monthly $$$ remittances either,,,,Caveat Emptor

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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panthdave says on Aug 16, 2007, 08:28:

Agree online connections/ and quick marriages with no kind of long term dating or living together first is a high divorce rate..

My experience met my GF in Medellin out of the blue with her cousin..We kicked it off but we are not married yet and waiting a few years and long term plan stay in Medellin. I also I am down every two to three weeks, important dates, holidays, birthdays, and basically I can do this because my job is in Miami Dade County and near the airport...

For now everything is doing great...No culture difference for me really been going back and forth to Peru since I was 18 with A GF and was married to another Peruvian for 6 years and I am now 38 so really use to the South American Culture and really don't know if I can go back to the normal American Culture anymore...

Quick marriages and no kind of pre marriage connection your percentages go very low...

Right now very happy along with the GF....

panthdave Miami

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lpdiver says on Aug 16, 2007, 18:07:

I married my paisa and brought her to the United States. We are happy still and I see no end in sight. In the end if a marriage fails you need to stand in front of the mirror and take a long honest accounting and learn from your mistakes.

I have said it before and will repeat it. There are gold diggers to be found in every culture and country (male and female). Be carefull.

In the end it all comes down to yo pays yo money and yo takes yo chances. It is part of what makes life interesting and fun.

t

"cook some rice!"

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john_stark says on Aug 16, 2007, 20:07:

"(I know every situation is different, but roughly everyone seems to agree that a foreign marriage is most likely gonna head south after a little while.)"

In a word, yes. Where women are concerned remember the rule of the three Fs.

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goin_south says on Aug 16, 2007, 21:29:

"a foreign marriage is most likely gonna head south"

Hey, easy pal. Let's not be takin the duck's name in vain, okay.

And, as for me... all (7 or 8,,,... well?) marriages that I know between colombians and gringos are STILL INTACT. 100%.... for now. so, I can't say that for half of my GRINGO friends and acquaintances. About 7 of 10 friends here in the USA who married people fromt the USA are divorced at least once. Just my ... close, however casual observation.

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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Robert Jorge says on Aug 17, 2007, 00:09:

I thought about this long and hard ... and I agree with the duck. I am hard pressed to come up with marriages ending in divorce among gringo / latina couples. I seriously couldn't name anybody that I personally know that has divorced who was married to a latina as a gringo, or vice versa. I take that back ... I just thought of a lady I know who is originally from Cali. She is divorced from a gringo. They were married for over a decade.

Anyway, I also acknowledge it is just an observation from my personal tiny little corner of the universe. But as insignificant as that may be, in my little world, it is a fact.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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goin_south says on Aug 17, 2007, 00:14:

rob, someone is trying to mimick C_Mike here tonight.
And it's not him.

necesito dormito
buenas noches.

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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Chelesupercono says on Aug 17, 2007, 06:53:

It seems like many good relationships fail after the marriage, not before.....interesting. I follow the best financial-emotional advise I have ever heard:

If it floats, flies or fucks........lease it !!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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TioJoe says on Aug 18, 2007, 11:47:

The more time you can invest in any relationship prior to marriage certainly will provide a better success rate. I never understood how a person could meet someone for a few days, plan a marriage and then question why the divorce rate is so high. I have been married to a lady from Colombia for 15 years. We dated for three, wrote lots of letters and visited each other as often as possible. I also agree with Robert and the Duck, the wife and I are unable to think of any couples {Colombia / USA} that we know that have divorced. We can however think of several of the typical american couples that have not survived the test of time. I suspect if this marriage fails all I will have to do is look into a mirror for the culprit. Ladies from Colombia, in my little experience, are very commited to making it work.

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john_stark says on Aug 18, 2007, 15:08:

Short team rentals are the way to go. Why buy the cow when you can have the milk for a small fee?

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Chelesupercono says on Aug 18, 2007, 15:25:

Basically all women are nuts in one way or another, but I love the Latinas because they like to be women and want the men to be men.......but the Gringas......they think that they have bigger nuts then the men........a fate worse then death!!! Viva Colombianas Guapas !!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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MaSep says on Aug 18, 2007, 19:36:

Don´t scare me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I Adore my fiance, I don´t want to be divorced never!!!! I will stop reading this sites, i´m gonna get crazy, is enough presure with our distance...

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MaSep says on Aug 18, 2007, 19:36:

Don´t scare me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I Adore my fiance, I don´t want to be divorced never!!!! I will stop reading this sites, i´m gonna get crazy, is enough presure with our distance...

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goin_south says on Aug 18, 2007, 19:53:

sounds like you're not even married, yet.
Chillll.

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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Chelesupercono says on Aug 19, 2007, 06:56:

Hell no I am not married.......just not a big fan of self-inflicted wounds........too many bad examples

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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RussianFred says on Aug 19, 2007, 07:32:

MaSep, you only live once. Don't be scared of marriage it's great. If you have assets, protect them. In my opinion if your other half wants a church wedding - she is serious. You can only be married once by the church. Civil wedding has no limits. I am 44, I am marrying a 20 year lady in the church soon. Just CYA!

Annual Drug Deaths: Tobacco: 395,000, Alcohol: 125,000, 'Legal' Drugs: 38,000, Illegal Drug Overdoses: 5,200, Marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?--Ralph Nader

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goin_south says on Aug 19, 2007, 07:39:

RFred, where you gettin hitched at? a church in Colombia?

If you weren't raised 'catholic', then... the Catholic churches are pretty spooky. Reminds me of the days of the Reformation. But, in Colombia, they have some very beautiful churches, with all the gold and such.

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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RussianFred says on Aug 19, 2007, 07:55:

Yes, I am getting married in Colombia. I am not a Catholic but I will become one ASAP. Marriage is about compromise. She said she picked out a “super beautiful gown�, I hope it’s not over 3k. If it is no problem this is her special day. We went to her sister’s wedding last month. It was a candle light wedding. I thought that was the tradition. But I later found out the church lost power -lol.

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goin_south says on Aug 19, 2007, 08:20:

jajjj...funny. But, the candlelight sounds better.

'hope the dress is not over .... 3K....? what?
When's the special day?

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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Chelesupercono says on Aug 19, 2007, 13:14:

The cost of getting married what ever it cost, is peanuts compared to the cost of getting.."un-married" jejejeje

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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MaSep says on Aug 20, 2007, 20:47:

No I´ve never been married, and yes I better chill out!! we´ll get married in a church but after our civil marriage in Boston "because of the famous fiance visa"...
And yes my parents will pay both of the weddings very expensive....

My fiance wants to become ctholic but i don´t really want him to become, he doesnt really believe in virgin maria confesion etc... so why would he convert then.

RussianFred don´t worry about the dress the tradition here is that the family´s Bride is the one that has to pay for all the wedding. But I don´t think the dress will be over 3K.

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RussianFred says on Aug 20, 2007, 20:56:

Thank you MaSep, I don't know the price for the dress but it is not a problem. The mother is a very proud women I wouldn't be surprised it she paid for the wedding. However, I want my wife to have the best so I hope that I do not insult her by requesting I pay.

Annual Drug Deaths: Tobacco: 395,000, Alcohol: 125,000, 'Legal' Drugs: 38,000, Illegal Drug Overdoses: 5,200, Marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?--Ralph Nader

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MaSep says on Aug 21, 2007, 19:40:

No don´t worry you won´t insult them, I just paid for my dress today and it was 1K good price, have a a beautiful wedding!

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RussianFred says on Aug 21, 2007, 21:17:

Thank you MaSep, after the wedding to we have a formal reception? I want us to go to the Dan Carlton Tony Romos. She wants to have something at her house. She said her might not feel comfordable at the Dann.

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MaSep says on Aug 22, 2007, 19:05:

I was planning the wedding in the Rancho club for Nov.... well it might be next year because we have to getr married in USA.. first..awfull isn´t? Dann Carlton is nice well think that that day must be very important for her so if she doesn´t feel that confortable better have your reception in the house then.

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