colombia/columbia??

ColombianoX says on Dec 22, 2004, 12:22:

Our Colombia was named after Christopher Columbus (real name: Cristoforo Colombo, hence cOlombia).

I once heard that the USA wanted to use Columbia or Colombia as it's name, but it was already taken by our Colombia. I hope someone else can shed some light on this.

CX

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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viewpoint says on Dec 22, 2004, 12:23:

Colombia River I have been to the headwaters of the Colombia to the point that you could jump accross it. I thought that was in Alberta north of Banff National Park and Lake Louise. I thought it was just north of Lake Louise ??

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Flyinrob13 says on Dec 22, 2004, 12:32:

It says Colombia on the world map that I have here in the States. I guess you could argue that its like calling Germany, Alemania, and not Deuchland (I dont know if I spelt that right)if you think that its a translation issue. I dont think thats the case though. I just think people misspell Colombia.

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oldbongo says on Dec 22, 2004, 12:32:

lake louise.. i knew someone would jump in.
por cierto, of course iv'e also heard many different names
given for the original discoverer,cristobal colon, expo ferens,etc.
was columbus ohio, also named for him? or columbia, missouri?

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Flyinrob13 says on Dec 22, 2004, 12:55:

Cities named after Colombus Colombus, Ohio, Georgia, Indiana, Missisippi, and Colombia Missouri were all named after Cristobal Colon. There are a lot more.From the Wikipedia Encyclopedia:

“Columbia is a name used in the English language for the many things
and places. The name is dervived from that of Christopher Columbus.”


Columbia, Connecticut
Columbia, Illinois
Columbia, Maryland
Columbia, Mississippi
Columbia, Missouri
Columbia, New Jersey
Columbia, New York
Columbia, North Carolina
Columbia, Pennsylvania
Columbia, South Carolina
Columbia, Tennessee
Columbia City, Indiana
Columbia County, Arkansas
Columbia County, New York
Columbia Heights, Minnesota
Columbia Station, Ohio
Columbia Township, Michigan
Source Nation Master
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Columbia

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oldbongo says on Dec 22, 2004, 13:14:

sounds official...but,... look again..
go now to aforesaid source,click on encyclopedia,
search for columbia, kicks you back to google,and come up with cartagena columbia.
go figure...

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ColombianoX says on Dec 22, 2004, 13:51:

Mario,

What did Columbus do? Did he get off that ship and start killing the indians himself? All Columbus did was have a great vision that changed the world. It was the spanish, english, french and portuguese explorers who killed the natives, not Columbus!

CX

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 22, 2004, 14:32:

It's C O L O M B I A --Spanish or English It drives me bonkers when I walk into a coffee store and I see a sign that says: (in English of course)

"Columbian Coffee"

I always tell the store manager that he has spelled Colombia incorrectly. One time I had an argument with this guy, the whole store heard us going. This guy had the nerve to tell me that that is how Colombia is spelled in English. (Columbia) (that mal p----o)

Any advise from you guys how to respond to these fools in the future.
And if any of you out there are going to tell me that Colombia is spelled Columbia in English, I don't want to hear your response.
Come to think of it, PBH is in English and he spells it correctly:

C O L O M B I A

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Flyinrob13 says on Dec 22, 2004, 14:42:

I dont know what to tell you I imagine it is because different people are used to spelling the name differently. I tried to search for a city in the us named Colombia, but didnt come up with anything. I guess if youre used to spelling it one way, it sticks. If you are printing reference sources, it seems like you would be a little more conscience about proper spelling.

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ColombianoX says on Dec 22, 2004, 14:49:

Mario,

"What did Bush do? Did he go over to Iraq and start killing those innocent civilians himself?

....... The responsibility is still his ......."

I don't agree with your analogy because Columbus was not the commander-in-chief of the spanish explorers. They answered to the Spanish crown, not to him. Columbus did not devise the genocide that followed his "discovery", you can blame the european powers for that.

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"One time I had an argument with this guy, the whole store heard us going. This guy had the nerve to tell me that that is how Colombia is spelled in English.

Gomezman,

Good for you! The nerve of that guy, what an idiot! You really are a 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'!


ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 22, 2004, 14:50:

Well, Gomezman, Pablo, my taxi driver, says to honk your car horn a lot if they disagree with you but he does this all the time anyway, so I am not sure that I would be taking his advice. He has not done the two gringo millionaires living in Medellin any good so what does he know? Besides I don't think he even drinks coffee.

Wow, Mario, you're giving ol' Chris a pretty big rap. Responsibility for the pillaging of two entire continents. That's gotta be some kind of record! No wonder we got a holiday for the guy.

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Flyinrob13 says on Dec 22, 2004, 14:51:

Gomezman5 I guess the store manager had a point. Columbia is spelled Columbia in english. How can you argue with logic like that? Seriously, the guy probably doesnt care. Just like a lot of retailers here in the states. Was it a huge coffee shop chain? In the future, I would probably still say something, but I wouldnt bet on a positive outcome.

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 22, 2004, 15:26:

Pablo, my taxi driver, thinks it's because you guys live next to France and you know what smarty-pants those French are. Not that he actually likes the French although they make some pretty good pastry.

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 22, 2004, 15:42:

ColombianoX Thanks for your support. But it almost got me arrested in the store.
Imagine this gringo telling me how to spell Colombia. I told him look at any map, atlas, globe, check an airline web site, como tan terko fue el. Anyway.....even now I get pissed thinking about.

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Crazy4Cali says on Dec 22, 2004, 16:23:

Columbia Sportswear I thought it was cool they had a Columbia sportswear outlet in a Centro Comercial in Bogota, Colombia.

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lpdiver says on Dec 22, 2004, 18:09:

Proximate arrest? I seriously doubt that simply pointing out a spelling issue nearly got you arrested. Your zeal on the other hand...may be another matter.

Reminds me of an incident that happened to me. I was separated from my lovely paisa for about 10 months at the time and was bemoaning my fate at work. Well this big bubba redneck came over and patted me on the back and said " Buddy I got a big pickup...I'll bring her her for you this weekend." You see there is a Columbia, Missippi about two hundred miles from Baton Rouge. Lightened my mood for a day or two.


My advice...Pick your battles wisely.

Antony (THEY leave the H out in ColOmbia

"cook some rice!"

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kernow62 says on Dec 22, 2004, 18:49:

Michigan, Don Negro that's how ignorant Americans usually spell the word.

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Lionheart says on Dec 22, 2004, 18:56:

Country names in foreign languages For maps it is common to print the country names in the language of the map publisher, unless stated differently.

For an English map Colombia is the only correct spelling according to any dictionary. Now for German it is different: Kolumbien. Germany in German is Deutschland by the way. Germans also write California as Kalifornien.

The French, Italians, Russians etc all do the same.

Concerning Christopher Columbus - in those grand old days you had 2 official languages, the spoken language, Spanish in this case, and Latin for the written documents. This would lead to two ways of spelling his name: Christophoro Colombo and Christophorus Columbus.

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 22, 2004, 19:13:

lpdiver---anger more than zeal The fool in the store---oh how I remember so clearly, said the following:

"Just because you are from Colombia, it does not mean you have to tell other countries how to spell Colombia."

You have to understand, it was his store, and at least here in the US, when a store owner calls the police, or threatens to call the police, very often you get arrested even without asking you to leave.....It didn't get to that point, but it was heading there. I knew I was correct. That's all. Plus, living in the US, I have to listen to people make derogatory remarks about Colombia all the time.

The least people can be asked to do is to spell Colombia correctly

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stevens says on Dec 22, 2004, 19:16:

When in Rome... As an American expat in Japan, I used to become incensed by Japanese-English, whether it be their orthography, pronunciation or word usage. "Sekkusu" for sex, refers only to wild, jaw-dropping sex. "Mai homu" refers to one's private residence, but with a foreign cachet. So when they ask you, "Where is my home?', they are not insane and wondering where their own home is. It goes on and on. How could they do this to my language. Have they no respect??
Well, then I discovered that English has committed it's own sins. Consider the French toilette (sp?) The English thought that would be a real good word for the shitter. And how about douche? You know what the English language has done with that perfectly harmless word for taking a shower.

So how about a prayer for these situations - _________ is an ignorant language. Pleae help me show its users the same tolerance, pity, and patience I would cheerfully grant a sick friend. Save me from being angry. Show me how to be helpful.

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 23, 2004, 08:20:

Right you are, Stevens. English is the mongrel language of the world. My wife says that she can read Don Quixote and the Spanish has not changed (I don't know if this is true - I'd call her a liar but she may very well be right and I have no Internet posters telling me what is really true). I told her you can barely read English from 300 years ago let alone 500. It's constantly evolving and mutating like some weird organism.

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