Colombia with out costeños

elmodefoque says on Jun 28, 2007, 07:43:

Hey! YOU NO GOOD MODEFOQUE what the hell is BAMBUCO?”
I THINK? Is a dance from the Andean region of Colombia very popular in Ecuador and Peru too

I'll get there, when I get there!

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robi666 says on Jun 28, 2007, 07:48:

Colombia without costenos?
No Jorge 40, no Diomede, not so many abandoned (by their fathers) children, less corruption, miles of unspoiled beaches... WOW... a paradise! :-)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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robi666 says on Jun 28, 2007, 07:51:

But Elmo, you wrote "without costenos"... Costenas are welcome to stay, of course! ;-)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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elmodefoque says on Jun 28, 2007, 07:59:

with our costeños, we would be getting kidnapped left and right by farc like they do in cachacos cities.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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elmodefoque says on Jun 28, 2007, 08:00:

i meant with OUT costenos

I'll get there, when I get there!

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panthdave says on Jun 28, 2007, 08:40:

Elmo why would that come to your mind during pigeon feeding????

panthdave Miami

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elmodefoque says on Jun 28, 2007, 09:04:

Hey dave, good question.
I really don’t know, I do remember on my way home from work thinking about my demise and what’s gonna happen to my bullet riddle body.
I talked to my daughter about that and she insisted I get a divorce immediately, she wants full control of my remains. I think she wants my dead ass back in NYC, I on the other hand don’t really care what they do with my rotten black ass, but I understand where she’s coming from.
Today I plan to go back and feed the pigeons unless the guys, Rubito, Rocci and the Morph, rather meet in the village and get drunk, otherwise you’ll find me on the same bench.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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manINred says on Jun 28, 2007, 10:05:

"Colombia without costenos..."

would be a better place!!! Nar, just kidding. I like costenos, laid-back and talk fast. However, I did have the misfortune to meet many annoying Costenos en Medellin. Sheer coincidence I'm sure.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jun 28, 2007, 10:47:

My wife was just cursing Costeños yesterday. The notario in San Andres put the wrong date on our marriage certificate and came up with a million excuses as to why he "couldn't" change it. She started going off about how Costeños are lazy, slow and difficult.

I just laughed when she said that and asked her if an "isleño" from San Andres was really considered a Costeño. Her reply "Todos esos hijueputas son iguales!"

Ja Ja Ja

Her words, not mine. I like some Costeños and find them to be quite entertaining.

Peace,
CG

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bhill says on Jun 28, 2007, 10:52:

I would not worry about it. Seriously. China is destined to assume the "leadership" role in the near future. No one will be interested in immitating anything from the US then.
Then again, whatever the differences between the US and Colombia, I really can't see Colombians throwing the odd word or two of Mandarin into their daily conversation. But who knows, anything is possible...

-Brian

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elmodefoque says on Jun 28, 2007, 11:18:

guys, costeños are a lotta fun, a barrel of monkeys.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Simon says on Jun 28, 2007, 14:57:

elmo,

I hate regionalism and unfortunately, you suffer from it!

A Colombia without 'cachacos' wouldn't be Colombia!

Let's see: no Fernando Botero, no Juanes, no Juan Pablo Montoya, no Camilo Villegas, no Antonio Nariño or Francisco Santander, no Alvaro Uribe, no Manual Elkin Patarroyo, no coffee, no aguardiente, no bambuco, no joropo, no Feria de las Flores, no Feria de Manizales, no Carnaval de Blancos y Negros, no Alvaro Mutis, no Jorge Isaacs, no Laura Restrepo no Jorge Franco, (all great writers BTW), no Jaime Garzon (RIP), no Jose Asuncion Silva (Colombia's greatest poet), no Freddy Rincon no, Faustino Asprilla, no Oscar Cordoba, no Willington Ortiz, no Rene Higuita, or Victor Hugo Aristizabal. No Copa Libertadores for Colombia (since only 'cachaco' teams have won it). No Betty la Fea, no Pedro el Escamoso, no Catalina Sandino Moreno or John Leguizamo, no Aterciopelados, no Claudia Placios, no Natalia Paris, no Amparo Grisales, no Paola Andrea Betancur, no Lina Marulanda, no Adriana Arboleda, etc..... heck, the list is so long, I could be here all day.


Dude, I think you still have a lot to learn about Colombia!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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manINred says on Jun 28, 2007, 15:04:

Faustino Asprilla was a terrible man, but a good footballer.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 28, 2007, 15:21:

Simon,



You're right, regionalism is pointless and subjective. But in the spirit of a friendly argument and if you use international recognition as a yardstick:



Pibe outweighs all the footballers you mentioned, Shakira and Joe Arroyo outweigh all the cachaco singers and your list of models and actors combined can't hold a candle to Sofia Vergara. And if Aracataca is considered "Costeño" (I have no idea), Garcia Marquez surpasses all the men and women of letters.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Leguizamo - He doesn't count. He's half-Colombian and he left for the U.S. when he was four.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 28, 2007, 15:58:

Just returned from feeding the pigeons. Again I sat and ponder and you know what, my cachaco brothers do have had a point; they have indeed contributed plenty to make Colombia what it is right now.
I discussed this with a couple hard core costenos and they pointed out that outside of Botero and maybe a handful of yahoos knowing from Montoya, that’s it! All the others don’t count.
These guys are so damn corroncho they really think the only opinion that matters is that of Americans
Yes, I‘m guilty of being too damn proud but these guys are way out there. They also pointed out that Shakira, Renteria, Gabo, Vergara are the only ones well known by the american media
. Of course we can’t dare to compare ourselves to the talent that Mexico and Puerto Rico has put out there..
Yet another thing, they claimed the little old Barranquilla alone has put more Colombians in the worlds pubic eye than Bogotá, Medellin, Cali, Pereira, Pasto, Bucaramanga, Armenia, etc.al combined.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Simon says on Jun 28, 2007, 16:33:

Tinto,

Catalinda Sandino Moreno has been nominated for an OSCAR, and in her movie debut nonetheless. I love Sofia, but she'll be nominated when pigs fly! And as a model, she's no Natalia Paris!


I wouldn't say Shakira outweighs Juanes, Juanes only has 12 GRAMMYS! And he actually sings Colombian music, and was named one the the 100 most influential people in the world by TIME Magazine, whereas Shakira has opted for singing in english.

And why wouldn't leguizamo count? Liek it or not, he was born in Colombia, and has just finished filming a movie there, 'Love in the Times of Cholera'.

Ah, and last but not least, you're not Colombian, so butt out!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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morphus says on Jun 28, 2007, 18:59:

Simon, you forgot Pablo Escobar. Add him to the list too :)

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 28, 2007, 20:28:

I met a 3 or 4 displaced costenos in Villavo my last day there. My only regret is that I hadn't met them earlier and had more time to hang out with them. They were the good players on the Villavo softball team. One was actually a pro-player in the US back in '79 or so for the Twins. Anyway, they immediately made me feel comfortable and welcome, and defined the phrase, "life of the party."

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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bueno_pues says on Jun 28, 2007, 20:36:

Los cachacos son gringo wannabes. Es por eso que sus mujeres quieren los gringos, ellos quieren la cosa verdadera! Las costeñas no quieren los gringos por que ellos tienen los hombres puros.

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Simon says on Jun 28, 2007, 20:40:

bueno pues,

Si no quieres a tus compatriotas, entonces haganos un favor y lárguese de Colombia!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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Simon says on Jun 28, 2007, 21:09:

Escobar was an evil, murderous POS! You know that Rubito.

BTW, Leguizamo came to the US when he was four years-old, which means there was a time when he only spoke and/or understood spanish. After he moved to the US and was immersed in US culture, he then spoke 'spanglish' and english. And that movie is in english.

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 29, 2007, 00:14:

I don't know if that is a fact, but assuming it is (about Pablo wanting to pay off the Colombian debt), I can think of several rational reasons why the government would refuse the offer.

He was a murdering scum-bag. He was no different than somebody like Al Capone. Except even richer. Senor Escobar offering to pay the Colombian debt was an arrogant gesture.

He did have a great futbal team.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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kalder says on Jun 29, 2007, 00:27:

This apology for Escobar is a rum go.

But maybe he's got a point. After all, Hitler eliminated unemployment and Stalin knocked up a few factories. What's being responsible for murder, terror and torture compared to giving the economy a boost?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 29, 2007, 01:35:

if he would have paid the national debt, we would have been on his hands and do whatever he wanted, he did do thing for the poor but that is not an excuse for all the crimes he committed is like washing his hands by doing good deeds. he was a criminal and he ended paying like a criminal.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 29, 2007, 01:43:

BTW I am Costeña and my family too but i have to say that the most corrupt politicians in Colombia are the Costeños

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 29, 2007, 04:43:

No, Simon, according to your new rules you can't talk about the U.S. because you're not American, so butt out!



Rubito - Re Pablo, that may be one big myth. First, I wouldn't trust Forbes "richest person" estimates. They are sometimes way off, even with people in legitimate businesses. Second, Pablo knew that if Colombia accepted his offer, they'd be a pariah state for a long time to come. Barring any harder evidence, it will go down as a bluff he knew he wouldn't be called on.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 29, 2007, 04:49:

All jesting aside, I gotta tell you, though I’m proud of all Colombians I’m bit disappointed with cachacos and their over zealous love for all that is foreign.
I don’t like anyone in Colombia to know I live in the USA but I was forced to speak English to my young brother in-laws in public in Medellin while in barranquilla we only spoke corroncho . I don’t mine English in private but not out in the middle of a bar or restaurant.
Again I play this video because it gives me happy goose bumps. I get great pleasure in seeing our costeño youth continuing our music and costumes. It gives me great joy NOT to see them parading around half naked, exhibiting themselves in the parquet Lleras, Zona Rosa’s, Frogg Leggs of Colombia.
I want to world to see that NOT ALL COLOMBIANAS are for sale and NOT all of them think colombianos are good for nothing, lazy, unfaithful mujeriego modefoques.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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elmodefoque says on Jun 29, 2007, 04:58:

No heavy metal heard in the streets of curramba

I'll get there, when I get there!

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tompower says on Jun 29, 2007, 05:37:

Dear Mr.Modefoque,
You are right. Since arriving in canada my wife (Turbaquera) has made many new friends who are from colombia; calenas, paisas, cachacas and costenas. You can always see the difference at the cachaca and paisa partys everyone sits respectfully and talks nice and polite and very reserved, lots of usted. The costena (Calenas a little bit too) party is a 1000 times different, the swearing, drinking and laughing is a lot more intense and my wife admits it's because the costenos are more vulgar.
I like it and earlier someone wrote here that cartagena doesn't have a middle class, that's not true there's a huge middle class it's just that middle class costenos don't put on airs like those from the interior. The doctor that fixed my rash in cartagena talks and acts just like the vendor on the boca grande beach.
Viva la costa!!!!
Remember, we're all in this together.
Tom Power

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bueno_pues says on Jun 29, 2007, 05:48:

Como siempre, buen dicho, Elmo.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 29, 2007, 06:06:

So there I was, just a few minutes ago scrubbing the last of my toilets on the sixth floor. I was pondering; I like to ponder a lot when I'm cleaning..
Many in Colombias refer to costenos as uneducated, loud, backward modefoques only because most of our youth have not embrace “modern times’ Techno music, heavy metal etc. why?
3 years ago my nephew worked as a bouncer for a joint called “tropical cocktail” in Barranquilla. They only played techno chit and served neon colored drinks.
Though most middle class barranquilleros have a LOT more money than other middle class Colombians, the place closed down in less than 6 months. Most barranquilleros prefer their music, no matter what class.
He was sent to the”tropical cocktail” in Bogotá where this place is a big hit. He could not stand to hear that music and the cold and rain got him sick; he quit and returns to curramba to drive a cab.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 29, 2007, 06:12:

what kind of costeno uses a word like "ponder" ???



Usually that's reserved for the immaculate conception story --- "Mary pondered these things and kept them in her heart"



;-)

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elmodefoque says on Jun 29, 2007, 06:16:

copious number of costeños

I'll get there, when I get there!

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elmodefoque says on Jun 29, 2007, 06:25:

Let me play you one of my all time favorite feel good song from Barranquilla.
Hey! Is Friday and I’m ready for a drink.
In my desk I have a bottle of a Salvador, Brazil drink called "o cravinho" given to me by one of my colleagues, here goes the first shot!

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 29, 2007, 06:30:

"copious" - that's good. Amazing how reading "Penthouse Forum" can add to one's vocabulary. Haha.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 29, 2007, 06:45:

Thank you for the accolade, I’m most humbled. jijijijij

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Maconda says on Jun 29, 2007, 07:17:

what you all guys need is a gooodddd vacation to colombia

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Miguel says on Jun 29, 2007, 07:19:

Costeños party hard, but so do the caleños, from my experiences.

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Lowell says on Jun 29, 2007, 08:34:

Viva Carnival!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feliz Burachooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man, how can women dance like that, minute after minute. 30 seconds of that and I'd be on oxygen. Pluss in the heat? Not!

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Simon says on Jun 29, 2007, 09:09:

[quote]No, Simon, according to your new rules you can't talk about the U.S. because you're not American, so butt out! [/quote]


Fair enough Tinto.

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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elmodefoque says on Jun 29, 2007, 09:23:

Colombia really is very diverse country and has something for everyone.
Right now I’m NOT ready for the serenity and calm of Medellin, Bogotá, Cali, I know the time will come when I’ll look forward to a cup of chocolatico calientico con arepita con quesito y mantequillita and listen to el Trio Los Pepes, middle age guys in three piece suits playing guitars and singing romantic ballads.
Right now my ass belongs to curramba.
Give me heat, give me chaos, give me noise or give me death!!

I'll get there, when I get there!

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kalder says on Jun 29, 2007, 15:03:

I've just been watching 'El corrido de Pablo Escobar' on YouTube. What a ding-dong in the 'Comments'!

Anyway, three cheers for the sniper (Yank or Colombiano) who bagged the bugger!

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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bueno_pues says on Jun 29, 2007, 19:55:

Que buena pelicula. Quiero morir con los culos de estas mujeres en mi cara. Es un festival de las nalgas.

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panthdave says on Jun 30, 2007, 06:29:

Elmo needs the action...Elmo I think you will go in the casket with Action..No Calm I see..Funny though my GF told my last Friday night last weekend Parque Llares in Medellin was full of Costenos...She was at a bar with her Tia and she called me from the bar and could not believe it was like a Costeno Convention..

panthdave Miami

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elmodefoque says on Jul 2, 2007, 05:53:

Hey Dave, I just can’t picture a group of costeños in parque Lleras. They’ll be demanding to hear Colombian music. I did, and they almost threw me out.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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