Colombia To Aid U.S. In Fight Against Taliban

Monpirri says on Jul 28, 2009, 02:45:

Here's the video.

http://atlantis2.cbsnews.com/video/

Colombian Special Operations troops ready to fight alongside the U.S. in Afghanistan.

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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davidslc46 says on Jul 28, 2009, 04:14:

I am sure there is a downside and the price is to high, but my optimism is that the quickest way to relaxing the immigration laws for Colombians wanting to visit the USA is to do exactly what Colombia is doing, US bases in Colombia, and fighting in Afghanistan.

We will see if Northe Americans give as well as take.

It pisses me off that Colombian children cannot easilly go to Disneyland.

I do not think you could move the relationships any faster then Uribe has done.

David

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dwmte7 says on Jul 28, 2009, 05:32:

i like the last line in the video............."the more afghanistan can look like colombia, the better" AMEN. dis-rag the ladies in afghanistan, stop growing opium and grow coke. make love, not war. yeah!

patriarch

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 28, 2009, 06:29:

Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 28, 2009, 06:42:

davidslc46 says on Jul 28, 2009, 06:45:

Sh*t,

Thats as absurd as blaming the Colombia people for the cocaine trade into USA.

I feel the problem is immigration law and employers, private citizens, and consumers who do not mind supporting illegal aliens if it is to their cost benefit.

David

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hiker says on Jul 28, 2009, 06:51:

I hope it does not happen. Colombia is a peace loving country, you get some idiots in control who will run it to the ground If Colombian people don't act soon.Fighting a dirty war along side the U.S. is not the way to go, even accepting American bases in this sovereign nation is not a wise thing to do .It will only create hostility and animosity from neighboring countries, and also it violates the accord that Latin countries promised not to let foreign bases on their soil.

fighting the Taliban reminds me of the war in Iraq. remeber what happened to Spain when they get drawn into the war in Iraq just to please their masters , their country was left in mess after few bombings only to regret it after wards .

Remember my words. I hope this does not happen in Colombia.Let Colombians solve their own internal problemsI. if North Americans want to stop the drugs , let them do it in their own home and borders .enough said.

Remember what happend in Iraq , and Bush barking weapons of mass- destruction , just to find out afterwards all lies and only an excuse to get hold of the Iraqi oil. Since was no such weapons found, what are we still doing there!!!

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hiker says on Jul 28, 2009, 07:08:

So do you have an argument !!! or you just don't like the facts being presented.

besides what profile has to do with this? If I chose not to update my profile is my prerogative

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 28, 2009, 07:10:

dwmte7 says on Jul 28, 2009, 07:12:

the text here needs to go back to the editing dept. get it clear, get it right.

wtf.....paisas killing rag heads? they got their own problems and their sp. ops are not heavy weights. they're good soldiers and a light year from where they were ten years ago, but they ain't the seals, forced recon or delta..........by no stretch. put their ass in the hindu kush and those boys will be lost. 50 below in winter.....what fuckin colombian ever saw that? and all the shit that's going down with these rag terrorism tactics....naw, leave these paisanos at home and let them clean up the problems in colombia not get buried in our shit in afghanistan.

just imagine how easy it would be for al qaida to bomb the metro, an airliner, a highrise bldg. an airport or casa narino? give all this crazy thought a break...it's nice that they offer, but it's a wanted poster featuring colombians. i say vote this down. thanks anyway, colombia.

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patriarch

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 28, 2009, 07:15:

hiker says on Jul 28, 2009, 08:14:

Azunoman , I am not naive and not persuaded easily , as a matter of fact , I don't even watch TV.If my free speech or expressing my opinion offends you , please don't read it , that simple.but I am not going to sit here watch you insulting my intelligence and not commenting.and by the way, i am not from Afganistan, and don't have to be . I am an american just like you.

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theflatline says on Jul 28, 2009, 08:26:

No children should go to Disneyland, we do not want them to catch the smug virus in California.

Legaleez for Complete Morons - A book for gringos in Colombia for who think they understand the nature of the law in a country where they cannot speak the language.

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Jul 28, 2009, 09:08:

Bad news for all the Afghani's on here!

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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Simon says on Jul 28, 2009, 09:45:

Maybe now they''ll be able to find Osama Ben Laden!

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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vinod says on Jul 28, 2009, 09:52:

Douglas, I can see that conditions in the Hindu Kush (Hindu Slaughter) Mountains would be tough on Colombian soldiers. Those conditions would be tough on anybody.

I would guess that the designated soldiers are getting specialized mountain training. There are some pretty high mountains in Colombia too, although I doubt that the elements would be as hostile as the Hindu Kush. I have also heard of Colombians having trained with American forces in the States.

It makes me think of how reservists are handled in Canada. Reserve units are not sent to Afghanistan. Elements of reserve units are always attached to regular forces (Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, Royal Canadian Regiment, and/or Royal 22nd), and before reservists are sent, they undergo 6 months of training with the regular force to which they will be attached.

A nephew (by marriage) of mine is with the Royal Newfoundland Regiment (a reserve batallion). He did a 6 month tour in Afghanistan attached to the Royal Canadian Regiment. Before that, he trained for 6 months with the RCR's in Gagetown.

He came back uninjured, safe and sound.

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Simon says on Jul 28, 2009, 09:52:

"He was the senior U.S. Special Operations commander there when three U.S. hostages were rescued by the Colombian Special Operations Forces last summer.

"I would rank it as one of the top special operations in modern day history," Wilson said."

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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romy says on Jul 28, 2009, 12:32:

the headline should read 'Target Practice for the Taliban from Colombia'
Shame on the government for causing more pain to Colombian mothers.

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vinod says on Jul 28, 2009, 12:47:

romy....I sympathize with those Colombian mothers. I feel for the mother of any soldier.

But it is the Taliban who are doing most of the dying. And until they are prepared to accept some level of modernity and civility, that is as it should be.

The Taliban can start demonstrating some form of civilized behavior by allowing Hindus to build temples in Afghanistan again.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 28, 2009, 13:10:

simon....common when soldiers make valient efforts, you congradulate and laud them you don't call em small change.

however. all you got to do is watch some footage...serious footage of american commando ops and those of colombia ejercito forces and you'll see...very clearly...what i'm talking about. the colombian soldiers, fine as they are, are far from being 'gladiators'....that's still quite a ways off for these men...valient as they are. the special ops personal of the u.s. are machines, honed down to a precision unmatched in the world. strong, powerful, resilient, dedicated, one pointed, uncompromised and lethal......characteristics not found in the colombian sp ops groups, because they're still dealing with endemic corruption as well as para influences. can't have these alien elements if you want the diamond standard.

don't take this as a criticism of the colombian elite forces...it's not, it's a critique. they've come a light year and can clearly be proud of themselves and their accomplishments. they just have some impediments which, once eliminated, will release these heros to higher things.

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Jul 28, 2009, 13:20:

point well made, vinod.....the first activity for the prisoners (taliban) should be to rebuild, rock by rock, the massive buddhas they destroyed at bamiyan which were like 200' tall (plus or minus) and 1800 yrs old. dumb asses. typical muslim stupidity.

they always miss a chance to miss a chance. they start their militaristic logic, by neutralizing 50% of their potential fighting force....negating women. brain donation for openers. over and above that, they have that neutralized 50% of the population hating the other 50% because of centuries of abuse. so it's a weak, fucked up force from the get go.

and that's why they fight like cowards, because they see the writing on the wall.....they are doomed. you do murder in the name of GOD, beheadings in the name of GOD, torture in the name of GOD............well, pretty soon, the creator and sustainer of life...GOD, is gonna get pissed and bring about some pay back for this heresy....and that's all the muslims talk about, the infidels (heretics)....doesn't it always seem to be that the one who's jealous, accuses the other of jealous. and the one who's guilty of infideltity accusses the other of his or her very sin. it's always the guilty who accuse the innocent. well to this ass holes surprise, those who would be last shall be first, 'CAUSE GOD'S ON OUR SIDE. and ya'll can take that to the bank. 'the wages of sin are death'.....

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Jul 28, 2009, 13:39:

i like the tattoos on the--not sure--82nd or 101st airborn....on one arm it says,"my business is killing" and on the other, "business is good".

patriarch

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theflatline says on Jul 28, 2009, 13:46:

I was in Colombia when 9-11 happened. I was home sick from work and lying in bed watching a movie. My girlfriend called and told me to put it on CNN and I then jumped in a cab and went to the school where I worked and had the duty of informing about 30 US citizens what happened.

In Colombia I am sure most of you are familiar with the tradition of burning effigies of people to usher out the bad with the New Year.

All over Manizales they were effigies of Osama being strung up and burned and people holding signs wishing their best to the USA.

In one of the parades they had about 30 guys dressed in sheets and turbans holding a huge banner that said "We know why Osama is pissed, you would be too if your wives looked like us"

It made this half gringo tear up to see that type of support.

Legaleez for Complete Morons - A book for gringos in Colombia for who think they understand the nature of the law in a country where they cannot speak the language.

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Rikito says on Jul 28, 2009, 14:20:

xxxwarlord, curious question...who or what are you? Yon can't be for real becasue you never have aanything substantive to say. I was just thinking that you are probably some character that escaped from an old G.I. Joe Comic book. How close am I. I also am willing to bet that although you never served in any kind of military armed forces you have some army issued skivvies that you wear every once in a while. I'm close right?

...and so it goes

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vinod says on Jul 28, 2009, 15:25:

Maybe he's Mormon.

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Monpirri says on Jul 28, 2009, 17:11:

It's a plus to bring Colombian military experience again to help our allies to resolve the issue.

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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Simon says on Jul 28, 2009, 19:28:

This video which accompanied the story was awesome.....check it out!

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5192443n&tag=related;photov...

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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dwmte7 says on Jul 28, 2009, 20:09:

simon..........it's the same video link above...........................hmmmm

patriarch

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Haddeman says on Jul 28, 2009, 20:11:

My people(the British) have had 20 brave soldiers,some only 18 years,brought home in body bags in the past 2 months.
This is a war that cannot be won,as can be testified by the ancient Greeks,the Ottamans,the British,the Russians and now the Americans.The place is too mountainous,the people too ignorant,tribal,their beliefs too strong.This is not our world and not our fight and even less so that of my adopted country whom might call on my sons in a few years to fight and die there.
I have no doubt as to the courage ,tenacity and skill of the Colombian army but to die in a foreign land,lonely and without purpose ,why?

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Rikito says on Jul 29, 2009, 05:48:

underwear? only a lifer would bother to wear camoflage skivvies.

...and so it goes

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vinod says on Jul 29, 2009, 09:51:

Haddeman...."This is not our world and not our fight and even less so that of my adopted country whom might call on my sons in a few years to fight and die there."

To see a child put on a uniform is a horrible thing for any parent to see.

You are right in one sense. Afghans will not change in our life time. I doubt the wisdom of having large numbers of combat troops in Afghanistan. But I am not opposed to using our technology to make life miserable for the Taliban. The Pakistani army did the fighting in the SWAT valley, but it was American UAV drones that made life miserable on the Taliban there.

Whether we have boots on the ground or not, I am all in favor of a continuing and increasingly relentless use of those UAV's against the Taliban. The Taliban deserve whatever misery can de inflicted upon them. We should be using UAV'S more and more. If some get shot down, then so what? They can't use them and we can replace them pretty fast, but it takes more than 20 years to raise a live soldier to replace a dead one.

Speaking as one of Hindu background, I cannot say I rejoice at the thought of a Taliban dying, but I would say that I am cold bloodedly indifferent. Those animals would slice off my head simply because I am not circumcised.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 29, 2009, 09:58:

when i think of al qaida....i think of their spawn, the taliban. and thinking of either brings images of their works. now by nature, i'm a pacifist...however, the works of these women abusing cowards pains me so much that i vote for saturation bombing of the swat valley and the mtn's along the border of afghanistan pakistan until we're sure every last al qaida sympathizer and taliban rag head is dead. period. let GOD sort out the bodies.

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Jul 29, 2009, 10:09:

fuck those uav's use the old tried and true B-52's which carry a serious payload. and just rain hell from the sky around the clock until only roaches are left moving. give them what they give the world everywhere, s.arabia, phillipines, corrigador, somalia, sudan, aden, iran, germany, yemen, liberia, nigeria, spain, lebanon, italy, england and the usa. fuck them and the rags around their heads.
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patriarch

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quantum says on Jul 29, 2009, 18:26:

Pretty venemous speech for a supposed pacifist there Douglas. And Haddeman, thanx for already saying it, u saved me the trouble. And remember brethren, not too long ago, the hypocritic U.S. govt. was giving all its support to theze same ragheads now called the Taliban. At that time they were known as the Mujahedin and Osama bin Laden was one of their leaders. We trained em and supported em against the Russians and now look.......its a cryin shame......makes me sick to even think about it. And now were gonna drag Colombian boys into it too? As if they dont have enuff on their plate already....crissakes.....gimme a break......I need a drink!

quantum

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goin_south says on Jul 29, 2009, 22:08:

hey monpirri,... it's about time for you to join up, eh?

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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vinod says on Jul 29, 2009, 22:34:

I agree with quantum.

We should never have backed Mujahedin against the Russians. We backed the wrong side.

Even communism would have been an improvement to the religious zealots running that country.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 30, 2009, 04:02:

would have, could have, should have and if........ha ha ha! let me see you undue that.

they're cry is we--the west--made them assholes/murderers/terrorists/cowards, quantum. maybe so...but now, we play by their rules, when we can get away with it....which by the way isn't often enough....we "try"to follow the geneva conventions and they follow the 'coward' conventions. it the whuss masters of war in the pentagon would let our men...'kick ass and take names' like they're trained to do, the bloodshed would be over, the bad guys would be dead and folks could get on with livin like they did during/after the first and second world wars. none of that crap about 'no torture'. common! you gotta be kiddin, if some dude knows information you need....you get it. si o no? battery to the nuts, a few finger nails, ugliness, etc. sorry, but war is hell and those are the rules of war.

we're so screwed up that now we courtsmartial our men for being men. pity.

sorry quantum. you're right. there's all this pentup frustration and anger inside me. in the years of working in the middle east i saw so much bull shit and meyhem that i realized the only way to deal with it is to fight fire with fire. one day while working in lebanon and damascus, syria, i had driven from lebanon to syria and after the ordeal of my life (episode of midnight express) i finally make it back into lebanon and finally back to beirout. the hotel where i had been staying, the phoenicia had been blown up. no that's called shittin where you sleep.

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patriarch

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Monpirri says on Jul 30, 2009, 18:22:

ESCUELA DE LANCEROS COLOMBIA 50 AÑOS

School of Lanceros (Military war school) was founded in December 6,1955 and 1966 Colombia began to train "lanceros" from other countries.

GS I hear loud and clear!
P.S. I have to go I have to watch Betty la Fea!

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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goin_south says on Jul 30, 2009, 21:58:

monpirri.... watch Hannity.
So you can help 'Cacique'.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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dwmte7 says on Aug 1, 2009, 04:58:

warlord..........."TO KILL" what types of bayonet fighters are there? "the quick and the dead"
next question...

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Aug 1, 2009, 17:11:

and the sweet smell of napalm early in the morning...........aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. good morning vietnam!

consider me in.........it's who we are in the trenches that counts. brothers bonded together, defending mom and apple pie.

and like the tattoos worn by the 82nd airborne div in irak.....on one arm, "my business is killing" and on the other arm, "business is good."
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patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Aug 1, 2009, 17:13:

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Aug 1, 2009, 17:30:

queen was two for one today....................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxbFLYa0_bw

patriarch

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